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Aleglain  by Redheredh 26 Review(s)
perellethReviewed Chapter: 2 on 3/29/2008
THis was a very entertaining chapter, with lashbacks and actual time complementing each other se perfectly, congratualtions, I loved that trick! Celeborn's borther is an endearing character, I really liked his pov.

And I also loved to compare this very young Amanyar Celeborn and the defined traits that you give him, with the grown up, composed, yet also somehow trickster Lord of Eregion in CSING. Both make sense to me, as a logic evolution for the character.

And I loved the gallant -shoulod I say foolish?- quest that the brothers set for themselves: to bring their forsaken relatives home! And the turmoil that it caused! And the chest with treasures for NOwe! I'm no so looking forward to their meeting with Cirdan.. I wonder what the SHipwright will make of these two bold princes who presume to overcome Ossė!

AS usual, description and characterization are outstanding. I particularly loved that semll of wool and fish scales, which rang so true!


Author Reply:
I am so glad you liked this approach! And Galathil, 'cause I like him too! While writing, he made me think of Cyrus!

Celeborn, a trickster? *g* I like that image! He certainly has the ability to take on different aspects, depending on his mood and goal. Definitely the prince in him using the performer in him to his advantage. A very adaptable person, as we shall see...

I think the Teleri have a inborn desire to be with and know for sure that their kin are happy and enjoying life, or they cannot enjoy life themselves. Tolkien used this motivation in several ways to literally create movement. Hmm, I do not know if I myself can characterize their quest at foolish. They apparently thought hard about it. Some of their reactions to the situations they find themselves can be foolish, though. Now as I am writing what I have outlined, I find I am encountering the same, and what should be by now expected, difficulty of one line turning into two pages. Cirdan like peace and quiet and order, but hardly gets these things with this sort of stuff happening.

Thank you for your encouragement! I really appreciate the review!
Ya know, I almost cut the 'fish scales' as not being that clear a note. Ha!

merimasReviewed Chapter: 2 on 3/25/2008
Well done, once again. Isil's flashbacks to their imprisonment by their uncle made the early part of this chapter a bit confusing at first read, but I suppose that's only fair, as Isil himself was fairly confused at the time.

I do question why the brothers would seek out Cirdan to be the recipient of their gift. Seems like that would be a gesture more fitting to make to the King of the Sindar, especially for a pair of princes who should have some experience in courtly protocol. Unless of course, Osse neglected to tell them he'd been found (though I think I remember him doing so in the earlier version of this story). It would also make sense for the brothers to seek out their grandfather, Elmo. But maybe I'm just getting ahead of things here.

Speaking of looking ahead, how long will our heroes be in Middle-Earth before Telpe's girlfriend and her cousins show up and start wrecking up the place? The fact that two princes of the Teleri have already left Valinoir throws an interesting twist into the Kinslaying and departure of the Noldor.

As always, I'm looking forward to your next chapter.

Author Reply:
Oh yes, this part of the story was definitely from Isil's pov. Of course, my writing style propabably did not help you much, either. ;) I am still working on that.

As to your questions, this is not a diplomatic mission. The brothers certainly would know how they should conduct an embassy, if that were their goal. However, their quest is to retrieve their grandfather and what portion of his immediate family that could fit in their tranport. A boat which is now going to be only whatever they can build locally, not the one ship out of three they originally intended. The information in the chest was a gesture to the rest of their people, and it turns out a wise contingency plan. From their past political experience, they are very aware that they could be seen as a threat to Thingol, kin or not. They are relieving him of subjects, after all. What if there was a rush to go West? It could essentially decimate the population of Beleriand. Although, they see that as unlikely because of the stigma, bestowed by Amanyar popular opinion, that the Forsaken are like to the Unwilling. In addition, what would be the ramifications if Elwe, the eldest brother and leader, decided to come back with them instead of on his own? They could become personally responsible for destablizing the entire Teleri society and government in Eldamar over a contest for the throne or bringing about paranoia from the Noldor, who are ready to revolt, by introducing a second Telerin kingdom that obviously supports residency in Aman. Far better to keep their mission low key and have a local lord on their side to shield and advise them. Especially one such as Nowe who is above the three royal brothers in the kindred hierarchy and, now they discover, can actually help them build a new ship. So, they had reason to be happy about their choice of patron and being able to stick to their plans.

*g* One can certainly anticipate that Celeborn is already in Ennor when the Noldor return. What I think is interesting is that Galadriel has to go with Feanor, whom she despises, to catch up to Telpe. That the Exiles followed the coastline and did not attempt to cross open sea. That the peace-loving Teleri fought off the well-armed theives until Fingon brought reinforcements. That the Sindar did not speak Quenya very well, but the Noldor who could hear some Telerin practically anytime could speak Sindarin with more ease. OK, stopping now...

I must beg for patience with posting, but I promise there will be a next tale in this series. Thank you so much again for reading and reviewing!

RhyselleReviewed Chapter: 2 on 3/22/2008
Oh, I can't believe that I had not seen this before. This is absolutely wonderful!

I could feel the storm, and the fear, as I read, and the back history comes through even without your excellent author's notes.

I've read a lot of ideas about Celeborn's forebears and his life in Middle-earth, but this is the first one I've ever read that has him coming from the Blessed Lands back to Middle-earth instead of having always resided there. Fascinating concept!

I look forward to reading more of your work... will you be continuing this tale? I really look forward to the two princes meeting with Cirdan.

Well done!

Author Reply:
Hello Rhyselle! Thank you so much! I am thrilled you like this. :D

*blush* I confess, I am fascinated by details and cannot help myself...

Thank you again! But, there are other stories with Celeborn as an Amanyar Teleri. "The Treadmill" and "The Trumpet of the Swan" come immediately to mind. However, I do not think either of those were ever finished. They follow Tolkien's last notes about C&G going together to Middle-earth. And this story obviously does not. Of course, in hindsight, Celeborn will always consider it a big mistake. Like the Professor thought, something that should have happened.

You anticipate the next tale in this series, at that. But, you have probably noticed I post at a very slow pace. And, I have other stories I am working on at the same time. However, patience is all you require. I will be continuing this patch of history. Hints of what will happen are in my other stories, of course.

Thank you so much for reading - and reviewing! A little encouragement goes a long way with me!


perellethReviewed Chapter: 1 on 2/9/2008
Wow! I do love the premise, and that old story that was never finished, was it? How was it called?

ANd boy, do I love your writing? Without dialogue you set the pace of a thrilling adventure and the roller coaster and danger of the trip. Confident from ignorance and arrogant from pride I did love this sentence. I hthink it very muc describes anyone who sets sail form the comfortable familiar environment into an unknown he never had the chance of picturing in his wildest dreams. And then the greatness lies in how they adapt and change and learn... if htey survive. I'm thrilled by this new story!

Author Reply:
Why thank you! The previous tale is no longer available, which suits the perpetrators, since I will be making adjustments to past events. Not the plot, though. :)

Oh, we really don't have to worry about the brothers too much. *g* We know Nimloth has yet to be even a twinkle in her father's eye. And a certain prince has yet to to be wedded to the wisest of elven-women. It is the rest of the crew that needs your prayers...

Thank you so much for the review! Always much appreciated, and now I am off to read the new chapter of "Stewards". Woohoo!

BodkinReviewed Chapter: 1 on 2/4/2008
My goodness. That is a voyage and three-quarters. I don't know how the Valar ever thought to keep the elves confined - they are far too adventurous for their own good. Especially those who don't know from first-hand experience what danger means. These brothers ... and their poor crew ... have certainly learned. Leaving the indomitable Nerwen behind might prove to be one of their more dangerous moves, too. Exciting stuff.

Author Reply: Adventurous, yes. Youth is suppose to be like that, isn't it? :D But, too adventurous for their own good? Hmm, sounds rather like something a Vala would say... or a parent, for that matter. Actually, Nerwen informing the various parents of their true mission will prove helpful. And 'indomitable'? :) Isil exercised his seniority over her - and a defiant Telpe - rather well. I hope I can keep things exciting enough.

Thanks, I appreciate the review!

merimasReviewed Chapter: 1 on 1/28/2008
Glad to see this tale has been taken up again, as I felt we were all left hanging after a promising start for 'Unforsaken'. It's interesting to think of Celeborn as an Amanyar Teleri, and how events would have played out differently has this been the case.

My one question, since you seem (unless I misread something) to have moved Celeborn and Galathil into Olwe's line, is how the story will play out now that Celeborn and Galadriel are first cousins. This was the main problem with Tolkien's conception of an Amanyar Celeborn: Elves didn't marry kin that close.Of course, this opens up a whole mess of possible (AU) storylines that I'm fairly sure have never been considered. I'm anxious to see were you go with this.

Cheers,Merimas

Author Reply: Ah, so you remember that story? :) Yes, it was left an unfinished tale, at that. Well, I have decided to try my hand at telling what might happened.

Galathil did call his uncle Grandfather Olwe. You have not misread. However, you might not have read the Prologue where it is explained that Galadhon, Elmo's son and the brothers' father, was Olwe's foster-son. Naturally, they see the king more as a grandfather. This was a major plot point in the past story, and I have not changed it - or any other.

Thank you for your question! I am sure you are not the only reader who wanted that cleared up a bit.

And thank you very much for reading and reviewing!


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