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Seeds of Old Trees  by Marnie 49 Review(s)
BodkinReviewed Chapter: 7 on 9/17/2004
I wonder if she is waiting outside, looking for that moment of despair to hit him, just so that he realises that he is not the only one who can be manipulative. Even though she has told him not to come, I think she wants the approach to come from him. Can't wait to find out!

(I love the suggestion that only inter-racial co-operation will get this project going. And what will the Valar think of elves swanning off to the stars?)

Author Reply: To tell the truth, I really don't know! This is where my inspiration dried up, and I have no more idea than anyone else how they will come back together. I shall no doubt find out when I come to write it :)

I think/hope that the Valar have learned to be a little less nannying since the Noldor rebellion, and to allow the elves a bit more independance. The Children of Eru are growing up!

MirkwoodmaidenReviewed Chapter: 1 on 9/17/2004
What a wonderful idea for a story. I love all the detail included about Valinor and its various inhabitants. When I have more time I shall read all seven chapters!

The chapter itself is a good set up for the rest of the story. I will read with excitement why Galadriel is not eager to see her husband of millenia. Great story so far!

MM

SulrielReviewed Chapter: 7 on 9/16/2004
What an exciting twist! Has Celebrimbor made a Dilithium Crystal? Will we meet a Noldor named Sarek?!?

Author Reply: LOL! No and no. I can't tell you how much I hate the idea of Vulcans being elves. They have nothing in common, not even the ears!

Glad you approve though!

daw the minstrelReviewed Chapter: 7 on 9/16/2004
OK, Marnie. This is such a strange mixture of Tolkien and scifi. I don't mean that as a criticism, just as a statement about my feelings on reading it. It's taking me a while to adjust to it and see how well you actually work all this together and make it plausible.

I like your characterizations of Galadriel and her mother, who knows her so well. The three males are also interesting in their three-cornered conversation and personalities.

Poor Celeborn.

Author Reply: Thanks for the review, Daw. Yes, I thought that it might be a bit of a stretch, incorporating elvish space-travel. But after all, this is set in the present day, and elves are clever people, and have plenty of reason to want to expand their horizons. And all those reborn Noldor geniuses have to have something to occupy their hands and minds with while the centuries pass.

I'm hoping that it's still consistent with Tolkien, who, after all, was the one who first said that the Teleri vessels go through Space on their journey to Valinor, (I think it's in his Letters) and who introduced Earendil in his sky-ship as a satellite of Middle-earth.

I hope it hasn't put you off reading the final chapter! Thanks again.

BejaiReviewed Chapter: 7 on 9/15/2004
Gahh!! You are aware, aren't you, that you've got all your readers tearing their hair out? That's world wide hair-tearing going on. The waiting is killing me! Which, of course, it is doing to Celeborn as well. Wonderful way to make us feel it. When they DO finally meet, we're all just going to be quivering masses of jello. Wait ... they are going to meet ... aren't they?

Loved the confrontation with Celebrimbor. I thought it was very restrained of Celeborn not to put Celebrimbor's nose into the back of his skull. After dooming Eregion and introducing those dratted rings, he certainly would have had it coming. I'm at the point in my own story where I'm going around on the rings again, so that moment here struck quite a chord.

And Celeborn already knew what the stars were. Take that, twerp. Elves in space ;) Not the first time for you either, if I recall. And the wonderful part is that it is completely believable.

It is interesting to see the difference between the reborn and those who have been slogging through life. Finrod and Celebrimbor have this kind of strange ... acceptance. Galadriel and Celeborn are both still so torn up. Almost makes me think that a trip to Mandos would have been better for them, if not for the fact that all the reborn are creeping me out a little bit. I can't really put my finger on why, but there is something about wiping away one life and starting over that bothers me. Like they are no longer connected to the consequences of events they set in motion so long before. Am rambling now.

Loved the chapter, even if you are killing me with the suspense. Looking forward to more, as ever.

Author Reply: Well, Celeborn has not once, since arriving in Valinor, doubted that all he had to do was turn up and she would be overcome by his wonderfulness and forgive him. This chapter he finally got some of that masculine self-centredness knocked out of him. I think he deserves it!

I had no idea of the level of animosity there was between Celeborn and Celebrimbor until I put them together, at which point Celeborn could hardly stop himself from strangling the blasted Noldo, and Celebrimbor just couldn't stop needling. Still, it must have been quite a disappointment to Celebrimbor that at the moment of his triumph his old, detested dark-elf nemesis should turn up. I guess they're both having a bad day.

I'm glad you thought the space travel idea was believable - I knew it was a risk, but on the other hand there's Earendil as a prototype, and they *are* the people of the Stars - they're obviously clever enough and the Noldor are restless enough to be looking for the next challenge by now.

I'm delighted that there's a noticable difference between the reborn and the still-alive. I wondered myself whether those who don't die at least once aren't missing out on something - a chance to be healed and forgiven of what has gone before. I think that putting down of the burdens of the past must be a good thing for people who live so long, but the problem comes when they have to interact with people who haven't done that. It makes enormous demands on the charity of those who haven't - to have their hurts treated like something which has no relevance any more.

And now I'm rambling in return. Thanks ever so for the review. The hint that DF is progressing is wonderful. I can't wait!

NilmandraReviewed Chapter: 7 on 9/15/2004
I read through to the end and couldn't help myself for saying 'damn Noldor' at the end :p

There is something wonderfully ironic about having Celebrimbor discover that others might have thought of his idea before him; Men and Teleri - I mean, how hard must that be to hear? And they might even be farther along than him!

Celeborn's despair is palpable, but I am glad we got to see Galadriel fired up. I believe their great love story did go on, and she's probably about to tackle him and have her way with him. (please? :D). His base instinct likely exists in her too!

Nice detail, as always. I felt like I was there in that workshop.

Author Reply: Thanks for the review, Nilmandra. I'm getting quite a reputation for being anti-Noldor, but well, I guess someone has to do it ;) My Celebrimbor is a genius, but boy does he know it! The idea that other, lesser peoples might have come up with alternative ways of doing this came as a nasty shock to him.

You're quite right, the whole story is something of a clash of their base instincts. She wants him to prove that he cares, he wants her to do the same and neither of them are willing to make the first move. But something's got to give next chapter, (or I'll be lynched ;) ).

Thanks again!

BodkinReviewed Chapter: 7 on 9/15/2004
Oh, wonderful. The provocation of Galadriel by Earwen is superb - as she judges just how much to needle her into going to tell Celeborn just what she thinks of him. But then - I got to the end of the chapter and she HADN'T ARRIVED. How long can I endure the waiting?

Poor Celeborn - visiting Finrod and hoping that Galadriel will storm in, in full fury - and being confronted with Celebrimbor: not his favourite elf. It must be unbelievably difficult to have all those ancestors and enemies coming back to haunt you.

Love so many things - the observations on the Noldor High King's family, Celeborn snarling at Celebrimbor, his thoughts on forgiveness: -

'He had wanted to forgive them, take them back into his life. For Celebrimbor his goodwill extended only to the thought that punching him in the teeth would not be worth the split knuckles.'

Elven space travel - and the Noldor whizz-kids needing the Sindar talent. Perhaps working together will help settle all the differences.

NOW BRING GALADRIEL AND CELEBORN TOGETHER! PLEASE! OR THERE WILL BE BLOODSHED. (Galadriel is in a very bad temper and Celeborn is getting too upset.)

This was just fantastic stuff.

Author Reply: Thanks, Bodkin! Earwen's a canny elf who seems to have more idea how to influence her daughter than most people do. I enjoyed getting to know her a bit.

I think you can tell that Celeborn was not exactly at his best, and, like him I wasn't sure whether Celebrimbor, who was responsible for so much heartache (albeit mostly with good intentions) should have got out of Mandos yet. But it's interesting to think that some of Feanor's family might be back by now. That's got to up the tension between the Noldor and the Sindar.

I'm immensely relieved that the space travel didn't put you off the whole fic. I did think it was a bit of a risk. But how can it be a happy ending if they don't have something new and exciting to do?

Besides, it'll take their minds off the misery of not being together any more. (Whoops, did I say that? Sorry ;) ...Nah, you know I wouldn't do that to my favourite elf!)

Thanks again!

Marnie :-)

EllieReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/10/2004
I wish Galadriel would lower her pride and go back to Celeborn. I like the way you portray Finarfin and Earwen in this.

Update soon!

Author Reply: Thanks for the review, Ellie! I don't think it will be giving much away to say that Galadriel will eventually soften towards him - it's just a matter of how and when ;)

ArtemisReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/9/2004
*sigh* Whether she be Nerwen, or Artanis, or Lady of Lorien, she's still stubborn. Gah. ^^ Lovely chapter- you bring out the natures of the characters so brilliantly!

Author Reply: Thanks, Artemis! Glad you liked the chapter. And Nerwen is strong willed and resolute, of course. No one would dare call her stubborn ;)

Aislynn CrowdaughterReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/8/2004
Hi, Marnie!

I am delighted to see a new chapter of this story, that I am still enjoying very much! How devilish of Celeborn to come with such an entourage, and then telling his father in law that he came to see Finrod, not galadriel; it may be a real outrage for Galadriel to hear that! But he knows her well; it may also be just what is needed to break her resolve and peak her curiosity...

But I do not see much hope for their future together, becazuse if celeborn really causes a second exodus, I can hardly see galadriel following him, because she must have been so grateful to be finally aloowed back in the first time around, I can hardly see her risk it. Then again, she *is* the most dstubborn headed and endeavouring female Noldor we know of... so maybe she would follow him again, anyway.

I loved the part about Celeborns questions and thoughts of Elmo, and the discussion concerning the fear of the orcs. It is great to see you bring all these charactzers to life and in focus! Please go on with this story, soon!!!

Aislynn

Author Reply: Thanks for the review Aislynn! Glad you're still enjoying it, and yes it is a little wicked of him, but I think it may work :)

As far as the exodus goes, wait and see ;) I don't think he's planning on a sort of return in force a la Feanor. And I've always worried about those houseless ones and the wandering elves. In a 'happy ever after' story it doesn't feel right to be happy at their expense.

More next week, I hope. Thanks again!

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