Malice2
· 7 November 2011
· Chapter 124: The High King’s Justice
Nice chapter, I loved how Namo settled the situation.
Did they talk about the beating up of Tam and Ingil during the trial? Cause it seems to me that the judgement deals with the rebellion and not so much with how he scared and threatened people and families, and physically mistreated those who opposed him.
But I'm sure you've got a reason for the verdict you had Ingwë give... ;-)
Author's reply
Hi Malice. Yes, they did cover all of that, but the main focus was Ingoldo's treason and the events leading up to Ingil's death. I didn't want to bog down the chapter with all the details of the trial. The verdict of course is consonant with what would be considered proper given Ingoldo's status. And it does explain how it is that Ingoldo is living in Vanyamar when we meet him in "Elf, Interrupted".
Glad you loved the way Namo handle things. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciat it very much.
Larner
· 7 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
And just why do I have the feeling that this blow striking Namo will be totally ineffective? Poror Ingwion, knowing that his uncle hated and feared him so!
Love the judgment for the guards and the dead guard's family. Now to see how the Valar deal with a heartsick Ingwion.
Author's reply
We'll see just how ineffective Ingwion's blow is soon enough, Larner, and we'll see how the Valar handle Ingwion as well. Glad you liked the judgment for the guards. Thanks for reading and reviewing. It's much appreciated.
bookworm
· 6 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
*wince* ooooh dear. This isn't going to be pretty...
Author's reply
No, bookworm, it's not... Don't worry, though, we know from "Elf, Interrupted" that Ingwion and Námo are still on speaking terms with one another. LOL!
ellie
· 6 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
Once again you make mention of stylized eagles adn you know that just bothers me. I can't think of anything but sterilized eagles. Of course this may be why the Vanyar have so few offspring if their king has an emblem with sterilized eagles. LOL!
Sorry I had to comment and have been rpetty good about reminding you of this since EI when Glorfy first spotted my misread of "sterilized eagles".
Author's reply
And even as I was writing this scene I was thinking of you. LOL! Besides, you already gave me your review of this chapter a long time ago so I know you just did this to tease me. I don't think either one of us is going to let the other forget about the 'sterilized eagles' any time soon. But it's not my fault that you misread it, though. No one else seemed to have a problem with it. *sly wink* Thanks for the laugh on a Monday morning, Ellie. I appreciate it.
Kaylee Arafinwiel
· 5 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
Atya...
*curls up at Atto's feet* Could this situation possibly get any worse??? Ingwi hit *Lord Namo* with a *sword*. I mean...what's that going to do to Lord Namo? What's Lord Namo going to do to *him*? Ingwi carrying a sword in the first place was never a good plan...
But then it's all really Ratty's fault. *glares at him* He would have killed Ingwi if he had the chance!!! Why did he try messing with Ingil? Did he think Ingil was soft or something? Well Ingwi's definitely not, and Ratty's going to suffer for what he did, even if it's not from Ingwe.
I have a feeling Lord Namo will have some words for Ratty on the subject...
Sorry for not reviewing yesterday, I was at the doctor in the morning...got the referral for my neurologist that I needed, as well as some pain meds for the pain in my Achilles tendon, as well as a flu shot, so yesterday my right shoulder hurt too much to let me type comfortably when I got back. Would've reviewed before going, but there wasn't enough time. So here it is. *huggles*
I know, I know...just two more days until I find out what happens to Ingwi and Ratty...two WHOLE days!!! *hugs* eagerly awaiting Monday...IDB's really the only good thing about Mondays!!!
Tye-melin,
Kaylee
Author's reply
Hi Kaylee. I think Ingoldo considered Ingalaurë the weaker of the two twins and more easily manipulated, but that did not turn out to be true. Ingoldo, I suspect said what he did out of pure spite.
As for what Námo intends to do with Ingwion... that will be seen shortly.
Thanks for reading and reviewing and I hope you're feeling better from the flu shot and that your Achilles tendon doesn't hurt so much. Tye-melin.
Agape4Gondor
· 4 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
My heart lurched as I read that Ingwe was letting Ingwion have a sword. Talk about insanity. Though I know it 'seemed' like Ingwion was doing better. But really, Ingwe. What were you thinking!!!!
As for the punishment of those who were truly doing ill, the solution you gave was great. I think time with Namo would be incredibly frightening. But also - healing. If Namo takes his time with them. Sometimes I want to thrash that particular Valar. He does his best and then goes off to see a new star. *g*
Ingwion's attack was not unexpected! But Ingoldo's diatribe. How horrid. He should have gone with Feanor. Their minds seem to be closely attuned!
The fun part was the fluff of the trial setting and those attending and the crowd being around. And this one sat here and that one stood there.... ALL to keep our eyes and ears closed to what was to come.
A masterful deception as you lulled us into quiescence.
AND THEN LEFT US HANGING!!!!
Author's reply
Hi Agape. I think everyone's heart lurched when they saw Ingwion carrying a sword. But you really can't blame Ingwë or anyone else for that matter. They've had no experience with someone not quite right in their mind (Fëanor excepted) and in a culture where one's promise is taken as sacred, Ingwion's promise to behave would be considered enough of a safeguard. Well, they've just found out it ain't so. LOL! As for Ingoldo... I think you're right and if he'd been anywhere near Tirion when Fëanor was urging the Noldor to follow him, he would've been right there, but he wasn't, and so.... (Besides, if you get rid of all the villains, there's no story to tell. *grin*
Glad you liked the 'fluff of the trial'. I do my best to not give away too many clues as to what might come, as that would spoil the surprise (or shock). And at least I left you hanging at a good spot, front and center, and you won't have to wait too long to discover the outcome. *sticks out tongue*
Anyway, thanks for reading and reviewing. I really appreciate it.
Sunny
· 4 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
Now, the ending of this chapter was a real doozy, O King of Cliffies! You left us hanging just as Námo was hit by Ingwion's sword strike, which was actually meant for Ingoldo. Monday can't come fast enough!!
Hopefully the ones who were reluctant to abuse Ingwë will be properly rehabilitated, and later become faithful subjects of the Ingaran. But I think the others may be more problematic. I assume that the Tulcaner in this story, who so enjoyed beating up his king, is the same one as in EI, where he was one of the ones who attacked, beat up and kidnapped Glorfindel? It is clear that whatever therapy and reeducation he got did not work - on him, at least!
Author's reply
Hi Sunny. Glad you liked the ending. *grin* And I'm sure you won't be the only one counting down the hours to Monday. *LOL!*
Anyway, I'm sure those particular ellyn will be rehabiliated and become faithful servants to the crown. Tulcaner was never near Formenos and was not a party to those who abused Ingwë, but he did help beat up Tamurilon, so there you are. We'll find out his fate along with Ingoldo's next chapter.
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
Siiw
· 4 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
"At that the doors of the palace opened again and out strode Ingwion, Intarion and Lindarion, each holding a naked sword before them"
Already here I had a feeling that something bad would happen soon. Ingwion and a sword, that sounded like a recipe for disaster!
He is very close to beconing a Kinslayer himself. For each attempt, somebody has conveniently been in the way and it is only luck (or the Valar's will) that has stopped him so far. Will Ingwion also be tried for attempted murder?
I guess this is where he becomes Namo's "apprentice"?
*shivers and waits for Monday*
Author's reply
Hi Siiw. Well, as you see, Ingwion with a sword isn't a good idea. Unfortunately, Ingwë is not as knowledgeable about insanity as we would like him to be so he was truly unaware of the danger. Well, he knows better now. *grin* We'll see how Ingwion fares with Námo in the next chapter. And no, this isn't where he become's Námo's apprentice. That happy event will not take place for at least another millennium.
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
Laikwalâssê
· 4 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
ahh.....not that an elf can harm a Valar but I held my breath nonetheless and have to wait until the next update?!? Ingwe should not have let Ingwion attend. It was forseeable that he would break apart. I cannot understand this decision. Poor Ingwion. I hope the Valar can stop and help him. The one who has truly lost his mind is Ingoldo. Hope he gets his deserved punishment. Like the description of the trial surroundings very much. Thank you for another wonderful chapter and please update quickly that I can take a deep breath. Lai
Author's reply
Hi Lai. Obviously, Ingwe doesn't have a clue and Ingwion's been behaving himself more so everyone thinks he's okay when he really isn't. Ingoldo is probably not entirely sane either or he's just being spiteful for the sake of being spiteful. Anyway, breathe, breathe.... LOL! Update will be coming soon I promise. Thanks for reading and reviewing. It's much appreciated.
Fantasia
· 4 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
I don't know what to say, I'm speechless...It is clear that Ingwion is not in his right mind, he should not be there, it is a mistake to have him on the trial. I know that he is a Prince and has responsibilities, but he needs care, he is unstable. Maybe Valars and Elves need a 101 in psychology?
What is wrong with Ingoldo? Does he want to die?
Author's reply
Hi Fantasia. That's pretty much the reaction I'm looking for from readers for this chapter. *grin* And it's all new territory even for the Valar, never mind the Elves. We'll see how Namo handles all this in the next chapter. And Ingoldo.... who knows? Thanks for reading and reviewing. I really appreciate it.
AzureSkye
· 4 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
I will admit my first thought upon finishing this chapter was "AHH! I have to wait til Monday?!" Then, I calmed down slightly (read: resigned myself to having to wait) and realized, while I am really interested to know what happens next, I not really too worried for anyone involved. Namo has survived a lot worse than an enraged Prince, and I think Ingwion's going to be mortified. He may want to kill Ingoldo, but I can never see him becoming so jaded that he doesn't care if others get in his way. Though his emotions might be tempered by the fact he's not to happy with Namo right now either....
So was Namo 'watching' over the trial, or did the Maiar who were call for back up? I will admit that Lord Namo is the best candidate to stop a group of rampaging elves. He's handy like that. ;) Honestly, I cannot see how Ingwe would decide to let Ingoldo stay in his court. I mean, his anger over being accused of killing Ingalaure seems to be a good indicator that he was innocent of that one, (for the elves I mean) but basically admitting to everything else, and flat out saying that he wanted to kill Ingwion....Mm. Well, I'll be waiting for Monday to find out how this all plays out!
Author's reply
Hi AzureSkye. At least you only have to wait until Monday. *grin* And yes, Namo has survived worse and we'll see how he handles having a sword thrust in him in the next chapter. Ingwion, of course, will be shocked by what he's done. You are right that he may want to kill Ingoldo but he does not wish any others harm, even the Valar.
We will see in the next chapter that Namo was probably keeping tabs on the trial and saw what was coming. As for Ingoldo, we'll see how Ingwe rules on him in the next chapter as well.
Thanks for taking the time to read and review. I appreciate it very much.
6336
· 4 November 2011
· Chapter 123: The Trial Commences
About what I expected, Ingwion is still a very disturbed ellon and Ratty didn't help any by answering the way he did. Did Ratty see Ingwion as the less bidable of the Twins and Ingalure as the weaker one, the one more easily controlled?
I found Ingwe was most just in his treatment of Ratty's other folk, this way those who were genuinely coerced into doing Ratty's bidding will be helped to a new life while also being kept under a fairly close watch. Who was it said 'Keep your friends close and your enimies closer.' I think this applies to some extent.
Hm, I wonder how long the 'Treatment' will last, I take it Tulcaner, Ratty's chief leiutanant is one of them?
I see you are still in Evil Cliffee King Mode! Waiting for Friday!
Huggs,
Lynda
Author's reply
Hi Lynda. I'm glad you found Ingwe to be just in his treatment of the others. You're probably right about his thinking. These particular ellyn will be closely watched, at least for a time until they've proven themselves. As for the 'treatment', that's anyone's guess. I'm sure it will last as long as necessary and no longer.
And I'm not that evil! You only have to wait until Monday to find out what happens next. LOL!
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
Larner
· 2 November 2011
· Chapter 122: Preparations for a Trial
And more grief comes to them and to the Valar. How we would wish to know things for certain, but that is not given us often, and obviously wasn't given often in those times, either.
And Ingwion did require one more reminder to behave, I note. Alas.
Author's reply
Very true, Larner. Certainty is not something upon which any of us can rely and that was just as true for the Eldar in Aman as it is true for us today. And as I warned, Ingwion is not recovered yet and it will be some time before he is. Thanks for taking the time to read and review. It's much appreciated.
Larner
· 2 November 2011
· Chapter 121: Funeral for a Prince
At least Ingwion is accepting what has happened now. It will make things easier for all of them, I know. A terrible loss for all of the Eldar to accept.
Author's reply
True, Larner, but whether it will make things easier for all of them still remains to be seen. Ingwion isn't out of the woods yet. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
Larner
· 2 November 2011
· Chapter 120: The Trouble with Princes
Ingwion's shock is still troublesome to deal with, but at least his mother was able to get through to him and halt his intent to join the kinslayers. And they do share the same grief as the fallen guardsman, at least.
Author's reply
It is indeed troublesome, Larner, and unfortunately, his erractic behavior is not going to get better anytime soon as we will see. Thanks for reading and reviewing. It's much appreciated.
6336
· 1 November 2011
· Chapter 122: Preparations for a Trial
Reading your discussion of what the Quenya/Sinderin translation of Halloween would be how about All Feas Eve, since it is the eve of All Souls Day?
I will leave it to you to translate 'all' and 'eve', since I know I would make a hash of it!
The other phrases have more to do with autumn than Halloween.
Just thinking,
Huggs,
Lynda
Author's reply
Hi Lynda. Actually Halloween "All Hallows Eve" is the day before All Saints' Day and that is followed by All Souls' Day (yeah, I know, really confusing). Possibly Halloween could be translated as "Sinyë ilyë i-airitaron" (the evening of all the hallow-ones), and All Saints Day could be "Aurë ilyë i-airitaron" (the day of all the hallow-ones) and All Souls' Day could be "Aurë ilyë fëaron" (the day of all the souls/spirits", but I'm not entirely sure, so don't quote me on it. *grin*
But you're right that the other phrases all have to do with Autumn generally rather than with a specific holiday.
Kaylee Arafinwiel
· 31 October 2011
· Chapter 122: Preparations for a Trial
Atto,
First of all, Happy Halloween! =D How would one say that in Quenya and Sindarin, I wonder?
(In Emma's and my stories that we've written for Halloween challenges, the Noldor call it Lasse-lanta, the Sindar call it Narbeleth, and the Silvan call it Laergwanath. What do you think of those?)
All right, back to reviewing properly...
So, they've finally gotten out their frustrations about the Valar. I have to say, Arafinwe practically telling Olwe to shut up so he could finish his story was rather amusing. *wry grin* I caught the line about Indis going to Lorien soon. Why do I think Arafinwe won't take that very well (and I wonder how Ingwe will take it?)
It's about time they dealt with Ingoldo...it's rather disturbing that people have been coerced into thinking Ingwe really did abdicate. I hope everything will be resolved with the Vanyar (and with the Noldor and Lindar) soon enough.
Also, I did a double-take at "They have not yet arrived." My brain immediately finished that thought with "...in Mandos" which is certainly true, but of course I wasn't thinking of "...in Beleriand", or rather Valariandë, yet. Interesting...Valariandë. I thought it was Heceldemar, or something like that? I never saw this name for it before (though it certainly scans better to Beleriand than the other one, lol). Is it an attested name or did you just translate it yourself? =)
And seriously, why doesn't the First Battle of Beleriand have a proper name? How about Dagor Minui, or something like that? (I'm sure you can translate it better than I can.)
I mean, all the others are "Dagor (something)", why not this one? Seriously, Tolkien...=P
Anyway, I'll stop rambling, but I did love this chapter, even though I'm sorry for all those poor fëar.
Looking forward to Friday (and Wednesday, too! Wednesday happens to be my sister's 23rd birthday, besides Long-Expected Wedding Day, lol. We saw her Saturday though, as she can't skip work for the day)
Tye-melin,
Kaylee
Author's reply
And Happy Halloween to you, meldanya. Heceldamar and Valariandë are both attested. The first could be considered perjorative and disparaging, or will become so once the Elves of Beleriand begin arriving in Aman, either by way of Mandos or by ship.
As for your words for Halloween... the Sindarin and Quenya forms are merely the names for late Autumn ("Sun-fading" and "Leaf-falling"). The Silvan form obviousl means "Leaf-dying". As for how "Halloween" or Rather "All Hallow's Eve" might be rendered in any of the Elvish languages, I'm afraid I'm not sure.
At any rate, I have no idea why Tolkien didn't give this first battle a name. Dagor Vinui (it's lenited)sounds good to me. *grin*
I'm glad yu enjoyed the chapter and we'll be getting into the trial in the next chapter. Thanks for reading and reivewing, yeldenya. I appreciate it very much. Tye-melin.
Kaylee Arafinwiel
· 31 October 2011
· Chapter 121: Funeral for a Prince
Atto,
That was beautiful, and very sad. I cried for Ingwi when he first heard his name being said, up through when he finally allowed himself to realize Ingil was gone. I was also crying when Ingil's hroa was taken away, though I was so pleased that the Maiar promised his tomb would be inviolate for all time. I wonder if perhaps their (his and Lemenyon's) tombs might lie in the tenth dimension? There they would be truly inviolate...but I suppose the Maiar couldn't take them there...but maybe if the Valar took them from where the Maiar took them...oh, I don't know, lol. I have no idea if I'm making any sense.
In any case, this was a very lovely, well-written chapter, as the whole story has been (which is no surprise considering it's you :) )
Tye-melin,
Kaylee
Author's reply
Hi Kaylee. I'm glad you found this to be both beautiful and sad. I tried to make it both, as funeral tend to be. Lemenyon and Inagalaurë are buried in caves totally inaccessible to the Elves. They will never be found and of course when later in the second age Valinor is removed from the Earth plane, their bodies will too, though none of the Elves will be aware of this. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much. Tye-melin.
Kaylee Arafinwiel
· 31 October 2011
· Chapter 120: The Trouble with Princes
Atto,
Sorry for neglecting to review, but I was still trying to get my head around these chapters. Ingwion's really starting to scare me, with his...I don't know what to call it. It's like he's actually gone insane. But for this chapter, this was one of my favorite parts (the other being the visit to Lemenyon's family)
"Mahalmarunando."
It was as if cold water had been dumped on Ingwion, for the sound of Elindis speaking his amilessë froze him and he slumped, becoming still, his eyes closed, his breathing harsh. Everyone else looked at Elindis in surprise as she stood there, her gaze imperious.
"Is this how the Ingaran’s champion acts?" she asked coldly.
Ingwion opened his eyes and blinked up at his ammë. "Ch-champion?" he retorted, frowning slightly. "Ingil is your champion. I remember that." He gave Elindis an accusing look.
Elindis nodded. "Yes. Your brother is my champion, just as you are your atar’s."
Ingwion gave Ingwë a puzzled look. "Am I your champion?" he asked meekly.
Ingwë nodded, stroking his son’s hair and giving him a kiss. "Yes, yonya, you are my champion, and as my champion you must obey me, mustn’t you?"
"I guess," the ellon replied with some uncertainty.
"You’ve been very naughty, sneaking away and getting poor Manveru in trouble," Elindis said in a tone of voice that Ingwion recognized from when he’d been an elfling and he blushed with embarrassment, not looking at anyone.
Ingwë gave Arafinwë a knowing smile and together they rose to their feet, bringing Ingwion with them so they were facing Elindis who smiled at her son, placing a hand under his chin to make him look up. "Go to your room and think on what I have said. I will ask Lord Manwë to send Manveru so you can apologize to him."
Ingwion nodded, looking glum but then his expression turned sly. "Can I still kill Uncle Ingoldo?"
"Not unless I say so," Ingwë replied, using his ‘High King’ voice as his children were wont to call it. "Now do as your ammë says and if you behave I will let you sit in on your uncle’s trial."
Ingwion gave him a considering look, his eyes flicking towards where Ingoldo still sat on his bed glaring at him, then he looked back at his atar and nodded. "I’ll be good. I promise."
"And you always keep your promises, don’t you?" Ingwë said approvingly. He motioned to Valandur who had followed behind Elindis. "Valandur, will you see Ingwion to his room, please?"
"Of course," the loremaster said, taking a biddable Ingwion by an arm, steering him out, "and perhaps you can tell me just how you managed to get in here without anyone seeing you."
Ingwion giggled like an elfling. "That’s my secret," he said and they could all hear the smugness in his voice and several people, Ingwë included, rolled their eyes. The High King then dismissed the guards with his thanks, and the room was soon empty of everyone save for Ingwë and the other royals.
Ingwë took Elindis into his arms and kissed her soundly. "Thank you, meldanya," he said with heartfelt gratitude. "I thought perhaps your presence would calm him. He certainly wouldn’t listen to me." He gave her a rueful look.
Elindis smiled. "But of course. I’m his ammë. He knows better."
(I should hope he does!!! :) )
Very good, Atto, I liked this chapter a lot, even though it's been hard to read in the wake of Ingil's death.
Tye-melin,
Kaylee
Author's reply
Hi Kaylee. Ingwion is indeed very scary here and we can see just why Ingoldo fears him. But right now the only person Ingwion fears his his ammë, which is only right and proper. LOL! Thanks for reading and reviewing, yeldenya. I appreciate it very much. Tye-melin.
Laikwalâssê
· 31 October 2011
· Chapter 122: Preparations for a Trial
I was astouned to read that there could be someone to demand for the High King to step back in favour of his son because he was not there in their need or that Olwe is to blame for not giving the ships to Feanor. How absurd but that´s live I assume. Liked the talk between Manwe and Ingwion very much. Now on to the trial. I´m eager to know how Ingoldo will be punished. Lai
Author's reply
Hi Lai. Well, some people have no real sense of reality and we meet such people all the time in life. I'm glad you liked the talk between Manwë and Ingwion. And yes, the trial comes next. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I very much appreciate it.
Fantasia
· 31 October 2011
· Chapter 122: Preparations for a Trial
Well, I didn't cry in this chapter, which is an improvement from the last one. Manwe seemed so human in the first part of the chapter. Maybe human is not the right word, but I can't find a better one. And then, in the second half, he seemed the typical Valar, so hard to read
How the Noldors will not if his love ones died in ME? The Valars will tell them or they will feel it. So hard, the uncertainty, no real closure for them.
Author's reply
Hi Fantasia. Manwë is treating Ingwion as a father would a son because that is what he needs, but he treats Ingwë, Olwë and Arafinwë as fellow rulers and acts accordingly.
As for your question, I've had Arafinwë comment that when his sons died, a Maia was dispatched to let him know and I'm sure that was true for others as well, so they would know that their loved ones would be returning to them someday. Still, there would probably be much anguish not knowing how the person died (that's not something the Maiar would tell them). No easy answers for anyone no matter how you look at it.
Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
6336
· 31 October 2011
· Chapter 122: Preparations for a Trial
Well Ingwion seems to be doing better, he has accepted the fact that Ingil is dead which has to be a big step in his recovery. I did like the way Eonwe handles him, Maia can be quite scary whrn they want to.
Now Olwe and Ingwe know what Arafinwe was doing while he was 'sitting at the feet of Manwe', I can understand his anger but it was good for Arafinwe, he will be a much better king for it.
There will always be people who think the worst of you, no matter what the circumstances require you to do, it is a fact of life unfortunately!
Now to get on with Ratty and Friends trial, it should proove very interesting.
Huggs,
Lynda
p.s. Thanks for answering a qustion I had about the Five Battles of Beleriand, I could never find the name for the first battle, now I know why, it does not have a name, other than the First Battle.:<)
Author's reply
Hi Lynda. As to how much better Ingwion is doing still remains to be seen. *grin* And you're right about Arafinwë. His experience, as humiliating as it was, was a good learning experience for him and it'll help make him the great king that he is. And you're also right about some people refusing to acknowledge the truth when it's staring in their face and thinking the worst of sommeone when all evidence is to the contrary. We see it happening everyday. I'm glad I was able to answer your question about the battles. I have no idea why Tolkien didn't give it a name, but he didn't and that's where the confusion lies for a lot of people, not just you.
Anyway, thanks for reading and reviewing and I hope you had a great Halloween and your costume was a success.
Rhyselle
· 29 October 2011
· Chapter 121: Funeral for a Prince
Firstly, thank you for showing the care given for the farewelling of Lemenyon's hroa. I was so touched that Ingwe and Elindis were part of that ceremony as well. Besides being a kind thing for them to do for the widow and children, it also, I think, gave them a bit of a "practice run" for the farewelling of Inglaure.
It occurred to me that the Elves at this point in their lives in Aman, have to take a future reunion with their dead loved ones on faith. Yes, the Valar have told them that the dead will be Reborn (and I am now imagining some elfling having the audacity to ask Lord Manwe if being Reborn meant that his Atto would be an infant when he came back to them again *grin*), but so far, none have left the Halls of Mandos for a new life in Aman. So, right now, in this time of Darkness, the Elves aren't able to rely on self-knowledge, but must rely on faith that it will happen, as we mortals in the here and now must have faith that the promises of the afterlife that we have been taught are true.
While I didn't actually cry while reading about Inglaure's funeral, I did choke up several times, particularly when Ingwion began to realize that Inglaure really was dead. Thank Eru for Manveru's comfort! I thought that the repetition of the use of helinyetillë in both ceremonies was very appropriate. Had I been able to get pansies for my mother's funeral, I would have given her Heart's-Ease to hold. *sniffle* To this day, I love the purple and yellow "faces" of the pansy.
Thank you for giving us such a beautiful closure for Inglaure's first life. I'm very grateful that we already know of his rebirth, or these chapters would have been much harder to get through!
As always, dear friend, you have gifted us with words that touch the heart, and I can only say "Thank you" for them. Well done!
Author's reply
Hello Rhyselle. And I can just see Lord Manwë standing there looking a bit nonplused while said elfling's ammë is about dying of embarrassment and Lord Námo is grinning like a fool. LOL!
At any rate, it was important that Ingwë at least be at Lemenyon's funeral, as we will see soon. And it let others know that Ingwë was not going to punish Lemenyon's family for what he did.
You are right (and I hadn't really thought about it) but at this point in time, the Elves don't have self-knowledge of Reborns, but must simply take it on faith that their loved ones will return to them. I think in one of his writings Tolkien even states that for the Elves, this is as much an article of faith as is our own beliefs in the afterlife.
And thank you for reading and revieiwng (and a lovely review at that). I appreciate it very much.
Laikwalâssê
· 28 October 2011
· Chapter 121: Funeral for a Prince
poor Ingwion. Now he is slowly accepting what happened. I´m crying with him but I´ve no maiar wrapping around me. Very nice and comforting image. A powerful and great chapter. Thank you. Lai
Author's reply
Hi Lai. Slowly, he is accepting what has happened. And I wouldn't mind a Maia or two wrapping themselves around me to give me comfort, too. *grin* It is a indeed a comforting image and Ingwion needs a lot of comforting. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
Tari
· 28 October 2011
· Chapter 108: The High King Recovers
Just wanted you to know I am still reading and very much enjoying this story even though I don't have a specific comment to make.
I was on vacation for a week and am behind in my reading.
Author's reply
Hi Tari. Hope you had a nice time. Glad you're still reading and enjoying the story. Thanks for letting me know. I really appreciate it.