Fantasia
· 30 January 2009
· Chapter 25: Baiting a Worm
Oh Bandy! Le Rouret what have you done?! I suppose that Legolas will snap to action after this.
Very touching Tamin's declaration of his reason to be in the battle, and his courage, and Bandy...I'm crying...a Took to his very end.
So the dragon plans for Mirkwood were Legolas' nightmare...And where are the elves and dwarves armies, and Faramir and Meivel?....Durfinwen was Belias beloved? I know that he liked her, but no the other way around...I'm still hoping againts hope that she will become Legolas wife, (well one can always dream)I suppose that they will need to ship her to Valinor and pray for a cure, as was done with Celebrian.
Glad that your muse is working overtime, I don't need to tell you that I can't hardly wait for the next chapter...
As always, it is a pleasure to read your story, even if you kill all your characters...
Thanks, Fantasia
Author's reply
Thank you, Fantasia! Amidst all the indignation and disbelief, it's nice to know that all this angst is still a pleasure to read!
Thepennywhistle
· 30 January 2009
· Chapter 25: Baiting a Worm
No! Oh ow! That started my morning with tears. I know, in war young Hobbits die, but still...oh that hurts.
Brilliantly scripted, as always, though a bit more painful than most.
Thank you for sharing.
*sniffle*
Author's reply
You're welcome ... and thank YOU for reviewing.
*hands over box of tissues*
Naledi
· 30 January 2009
· Chapter 25: Baiting a Worm
Oh no! I'm just so shocked by the ending. Poor Bandobras. I can't believe he's gone, but at least he died saving Tamin.
I dread to think what the effect is going to be on Legolas and the others. I hope the next chapter will be soon, to save me from biting away all my fingernails!
Author's reply
Thank you, Naledi! The next chapter is up ... enjoy (if you dare)!
Robinscat
· 30 January 2009
· Chapter 25: Baiting a Worm
All I can say is I'm in shock!! To kill Bandy! Bandy?
I should have waited to read this chapter until I was off work. Now I've got to go through the day with this awful image of Bandy being eaten by a dragon.
I won't say much more now,because if I say what I am thinking, I may regret it later.
Author's reply
You've definitely piqued my curiosity ... now that the heat of discovery is lessened, what on EARTH were you going to say to me? It cannot possibly be any worse than some of the reviews I got for killing Legolas in "Pottymouth."
Tithenaru
· 30 January 2009
· Chapter 25: Baiting a Worm
Hi Le Rouret,
OMG...... Poor Bandy
I have kept up with this story, but to my shame this is the first review I have left. Just wanted to say that I have really enjoyed this tale. Your undoubted skill as an author keeps me wanting more even though the content is very dark and angst ridden, and in places too awful to contemplate..
I will keep going in the hope that 'just deserts' are coming.
Tithenaru
Author's reply
Thanks, Tithenaru! I'm flattered you felt this story worth reviewing.
I'm all about justice ... justice and mercy, "seasoned" together.
Raksha The Demon
· 30 January 2009
· Chapter 25: Baiting a Worm
Arrrghhhhgghh! You've killed Bandobras!
That was a surprise.
Well written, too.
On the bright side, I have the feeling that Bandy's death is going to make Legolas awfully mad, so mad that the dragon won't be able to bespell him, ditto Ve and Gimli. Hope they can save Tamin.
Very sad, though; poor Bandy.
Author's reply
Ah, don't pity Bandobras overmuch; didn't he die where he preferred: by his lord's side? Pity Legolas instead, who has to live with it.
The next chapter's up ... no surprises there!
Calenharn
· 29 January 2009
· Chapter 25: Baiting a Worm
HOLY !!!!!!
* BANDOBRAS * ?!!!!!
I fear me Legolas will never forgive himself... :(
Author's reply
And so, Calenharn, you alight upon one of the most complex and puzzling aspects of forgiveness ... forgiving oneself.
And HOLY ... *fill in the blanks* indeed. You should have heard my daughter's response.
annajane
· 29 January 2009
· Chapter 25: Baiting a Worm
All right, Le Rouret, it is going to take a very great deal of self-discipline to leave a review that consists of more than "AAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"
Whew - got that out of my system. This is an outstandingly well-written chapter in a story full of well-written chapters. Tight, suspenseful, sorrowful, scary ... and completely wrenching.
I didn't think you'd do in our beloved Bandobras (on the lame grounds that J. R. R. Tolkein never killed a Lead Hobbit), but it makes complete sense, dramatically. This doesn't make me happy, mind you, but it makes sense, it works. I'm going to just have to live with it for a couple of days before I accept it.
Meanwhile I am very worried about all our friends and cannot imagine how you are going to get them sorted (or destroyed, one or the other). Or when and how that blasted nightingale is going to intervene. I still trust you, though, as a writer, which given what you've just gotten up to is praise indeed.
Please convey my sympathy to Nieriel Raina, along with congratulations for her terrific work.
Nieriel Raina
· 29 January 2009
· Chapter 25: Baiting a Worm
I hardly slept last night thank you very much! And do you have ANY idea how hard it is for me to reread the earlier Green Knight stories NOW??? *sobs*
Now, while I was up sobbing my eyes out last night, I had some interesting thoughts about Legolas's dreams, and the bird in particular. One thing in this chapter got me thinking, but I'm not going to say it here. I can't help but wonder. though... *raises brow*
Glad your muse has returned in force. Good thing. *sharpens sword*
I already told you, but I'll say it again.This is simply brilliant writing. You do have a way of killing your characters. If you're going to kill them, do a good job of it, and you do.
*holds out plate* More please?
And don't forget, I expect to see the Green Knight acting stupidly in love and actually getting married and having some really good sex after all of this! *folds arms over chest and narrows eyes*
Author's reply
Please, let me know your theories! This is the most convoluted plot I've conceived yet - I'd like to know if I've left any gaps.
Don't wave that sword at ME, missy. I've posted, and am working on Chapter 27. *phttbbhtht*
Ithilien
· 23 January 2009
· Chapter 24: Vé
Woohoo! A brilliant chapter! Thank you for this update!
Gimli truly shines in this one and you have to love him for goading Muhk into showing himself. Something tells me the little they have learned is going to come in handy. For one thing, they might have learned that this cold drake hates being compared to the fire drakes and appears to be somewhat jealous of their skills. Another is that he seems to have difficulty keeping his dinner down, and I wonder if this is a trait of all dragons or just this one. Yet this monster has a power over elves and men I have never heard of before (not that I've really studied dragons that is) -- he can woo them. Yet he does not have that effect on dwarves. Hmm, I wonder why that is? I'm sure we will eventually learn.
In the meantime, the little foreshadowing in Legolas' dream seems to have some significance now. We have the bird, the hornet and the worm. The bird spoke in the dream, so I think it has something to say yet in this reality. And it ate the worm while the hornet stung. What does that mean? Further, the bird here is a nightingale, a singing bird, which makes me think it is tied to the singing nature of elves (and nature and the forests, of course) Now I'll have to go back and re-read the chapter with the dream to puzzle it out a little more. There is something important here I think.
I have more re-reading to do beyond that though. Now that we've learned the dragon is named Muhk, all those scary utterances of "crawl, harlot, muck, muck" start to make some sense. I have to see if there is more to them than just those little snippets of phrasing. Perhaps there is a clue to be found? I'll let you know if I can figure this out.
Love this story! Looking forward to the next installment! Keep em coming.
Calenharn
· 22 January 2009
· Chapter 24: Vé
A cold-drake, eh? Fascinating...
This was a horrid chapter (not a criticism - just to say that the whole tale of what went down (with the Dwarves, Belegtilion, Belias, etc.) is horrid). So Renna started all of the trouble? Sacrificed her children? I guess I understand now why Malbeach treats her as he does.
So Mukh came down to get warm, and to feed. I guess that explains where almost all of the women went to. *shudder* It is a bit surprising about the young men - but I guess they ran out of women and had to throw *somebody* to Mukh to appease him. But he truly must have them all ensorcelled, if each of them (the Men in Malbeach's army) can't see that sooner or later (after the women, children, horses, farmers, etc. run out) it will be *their* turn as a tasty meat snack.
One can only sympathize with Vé and his survivor's guilt. What a horrid tale - and yet I suspect that there is something unsaid (perhaps something that he didn't quite hear or get in his eavesdropping). It seems from his story that Malbeach and company were truly interested in gaining *Dúrfinwen's* cooperation (not Melima's, not the men's) - and I can't believe that it was simply a matter of making her cooperate with her own rape. Something more, I can't help but feel, is involved here. (Of course I could be wrong... but part of the fun of fanfiction is speculation on character motives, and what might come next.)
I guess Legolas took the nightengale's presence as a token that he was supposed to be there, and that (tied with his dreams of doom, not to mention wanting payback/justice for all of the horrors, and to rescue what is left of the Men of Rhovanion) has set his resolve to slay the dragon.
The thing is, in the face of the horrid compulsion that Mukh has over Elves and Men (but WHY not Dwarves?), I don't see how he, personally, is going to accomplish it. Yes, Gimli's hacking off of a scale might give him a physical opening, but that only helps if he has free will and full control of himself, to take advantage of the opportunity. In the face of the cold-drake's compulsion, how is he going to manage that? (Maybe there is some shiny shield he can use as a mirror in Vé's stash, sort of like Perseus and the Medusa? But that would only (maybe) work if the compulsion was totally tied to sight. The impression that I have (perhaps wrongly) is that Mukh's voice, itself, is also compelling...)
Although the events have been horrifying, this is a fascinating story and I can't wait to see how Mukh is dispatched. I think that the aftermath of that event is going to be horrible, too, however - as the Men wake up and realize what has happened, and what they have done. I predict that Legolas (and/or the Elves and Dwarves) are not going to have either the burden or the opportunity of bringing Malbeach and Renna to justice...
Naledi
· 22 January 2009
· Chapter 24: Vé
You've created such a dark, malevolent monster in Muhk, and what a distressing tale from Vé. But at least Legolas seems more like himself. I'm just hoping that now that Gimli has cut off one of the dragon's scales, that will give a weak spot for Legolas to shoot at.
Cerencae
· 21 January 2009
· Chapter 24: Vé
!!!
Oh my GAWD! That was a fantastic chapter. I am so into this story, it's ridiculous. I normally try not to bug authors, but please, please update as soon as you can. I know you're busy, but O MY GAWD this chapter was amazing.
I adore Ve, he is a fantastic character; instantly likeable but he still feels genuine.
Muhk is just horrific. Absolutely perfect.
I love this story so much.
Thank you for updating, and I promise to wait patiently for the next chapter.
Dreamflower
· 21 January 2009
· Chapter 24: Vé
Oh what horrible fates for Legolas' friends!
I like Ve! And it's a good thing that he can explain what's been going on to Legolas and the others--somehow he's given an idea to Legolas, I'm not sure how. Oh, and Malbeach and Renna are abominations even worse than I thought they were! Her own children! *shudder*
I do hope that whatever his plan is works...
Nieriel Raina
· 21 January 2009
· Chapter 24: Vé
THIS is an OUTSTANDING chapter! I absolutely LOVE Gimli here. The action is great! And Ve is wonderful. At last, we have some answers! Though hearing the news of Legolas's people has been heartrending. Now I'm settling in for some serious kick butt right after I'm sure you wrench our hearts some more. :p
Naledi
· 26 December 2008
· Chapter 23: The Master of Esgaroth
I've just realised that I haven't reviewed the last couple of chapters. It's not because I didn't enjoy them - I did, immensely - but because they were so dark and the outlook seems so bleak that I was completely lost for words.
However, I've now recovered sufficiently to say - a dragon! I'm kicking myself for not guessing that. I can't wait to see what happens next.
Calenharn
· 23 December 2008
· Chapter 23: The Master of Esgaroth
Aha! So there WAS something to my ruminations, after all! A dragon! (...or a drake, or whatever...)
This creature obviously knows a lot about Legolas, and I would say has some evil designs on him, in particular. I hope we get the whole backstory on that! (I hope Legolas and friends are able to get out of their with their skins/minds intact!)
I am somewhat confused by Malbeach and Renna showing up as they did. What were THEY doing out east, with their army? (I thought their army was in confrontation with Thranduil and the dwarves... or did the events in this chapter happen (timewise) BEFORE that one?) What do THEY have to do with the dragon? (Obviously something... obviously the dragon sent them to Legolas. Maybe other poster(s) are right and that is where they get their power from?) Why did they suddenly depart, just when they (seemingly) had Legolas in their grip? (Did Someone tell them that "this dainty" was not for them?) How is it that Malbeach treats Renna cruely, yet she seems to be a willing player in the evil seductions aimed at the Elves?
And how is it that Legolas was able to get some fortitude back (become free of the nausea, be able to eat and rest)? Was it his rightful anger and resolve for payback?
I have to say that I am surprised that he seems less torn up with what happened to Dúrfinwen... (given that I am of the opinion that he secretly loves her, although he does not own up to, or maybe even understand that). Maybe it is because he is narrowing and focusing all of his attention on the Evil behind all the depredations? Maybe he can only deal with so much at a time?
I also have to say that I don't like his seeming resignation to his Doom (dying). This has Got to be Wrong - I don't see how you can reconcile his death with either canon, or tying things neatly/happily up. (One of the things that I like about the Green Knight universe is that I see it meshing compatibly with canon - and although I otherwise love angst, I ultimately want to see happy endings.)
But I am sure that you have all of this worked out, probably in ways that will surprise me, so I will just have to be patient as the story unfolds.
Thank you for the update!
Ithilien
· 23 December 2008
· Chapter 23: The Master of Esgaroth
Aha! I knew there was a snakey-type creature somehow involved in this. A dragon though... that never occurred to me. Ooh, scary, as those are fierce and demonic creatures. It seems not the least surprised to see Legolas and his lot, however, and I am incredibly intrigued as to where you are taking this story. It is certainly dark.
Even more than the dragon though, I'm fascinated with the part of Malbeach and Renna. What is this power they have and how do they wield it? The symbolism of the hornet, the worm, the bird have me mystified and I'm stuck having to wait for more clues. Usually I can piece together something of the hints the author puts forth as to what might come next -- at least enough that my imagination gives me ground to play on until the next update -- but in this case I'm completely flummoxed. I haven't got a clue as to what is going to happen in this story.
Yet the clues are there. Legolas has found-- somehow -- a reprieve from his despair. Something chased Malbeach and Renna away. Something too gave him peace enough for him to rest and to find his appetite again. But what? What?
The dwarves play into this somehow. They seem unaffected by Malbeach's power, and that confuses me. In any case, I hope Legolas keeps Gimli close because he seems destined to die and if the dwarves can stave off that wicked spell, then maybe Legolas' salvation will come from the source of his friend.
Fascinating story! I hope your muse keeps up the encouragement and you'll post a new chapter soon. Until then, have a wonderful holiday season!
eucalyptus
· 22 December 2008
· Chapter 23: The Master of Esgaroth
Now THAT is cool. And I can't believe you updated three days before Christmas.
It doesn't surprise me now that Renna and Malbeach allowed them to continue east; the Master has been beckoning Legolas to him all along. Renna and Malbeach could very well be nothing more than willing servants to the Master, whereas Durfinwen is an unwilling one. Perhaps if they slay the dragon, Renna and Malbeach will be left powerless and Durfinwen will be released. That Legolas has all but accepted that he will die is agonizing though, and very sad. Thanks for updating, and good luck with the next chapter!
Dreamflower
· 22 December 2008
· Chapter 23: The Master of Esgaroth
A dragon!!!
You know, that *is* one of the many wild guesses that passed through my mind at one point, but I dismissed it at once in favor of another theory...
I am still puzzled by how Malbeach has such an effect on Legolas.
And Legolas' dream of Rohan leaving him feeling refreshed, that was a *real* blessing...wasn't it?
nokturne
· 25 November 2008
· Chapter 7: The Sons of Denethor
I don't normally comment on older chapters, but I still wanted to tell you, I nearly choked when I read the "prettier than you and you're a girl" line in chapter 7. Oh, how I adore Davey Havok.
Marvelous story. I plan on printing it out and reading the rest over Thanksgiving break. =]
Fantasia
· 20 November 2008
· Chapter 22: The Daughter of No-One
Well, I went back and read the whole story, I had cool down a little bit and I wanted to go back to see if I can pick the clues that you keep giving us and hinting in the replies to the reviews. I didn’t get anything. English is not my first language and though I live in the States, English literature & folklore is not something that I know very much, only the universal well known stories, myths and folklore. Why, I didn’t even know what kind of bird is a nightingale is (I have to Google that and ended reading the beautiful Ode to a Nightingale by Keats)I'm so frustated, I want to know!!!
Usually, I’m good in guessing the stories plots, in stories, novels, movies, fanfics, etc. I even remember that when you started this fic, I said that Durfinwen was one of the lost elves, when you mentioned the missing elves in the description. My mistake was to think that we will have the Green Knight coming to rescue a damsel in distress; I never, ever, could have thought this outcome.
About the rape, I’m not that surprised, old cavalry romances have raped damsels that got saved and married with their knights; the difference is that an elf should not survive a rape. But then, you have Turgon’s sister (don’t remember her name now) that was partially unwilling to marry Eol and didn’t die, because she consented, due Eol dark magic (hope that I’m not wrong in this). It made me suspicious that Durfinwen was shouting all the time that she has done what the Master has asked her to do, so, was she technically raped or not? This is all speculation, but I wanted to tell someone. Also, we don’t know from where she is, you said once that some believed her to have mortal blood, because she is a little different that the other elves, you even say that she is beautiful, but not like the other ones, with her chestnut curls and dark eyes, also she is one of the most merry and witty of all of them (it is so sad, so sad to see her now)
Even if this is dark, I love this story, it is full of surprises, (bad surprises too) and incredible well written, I can hardly wait for an update and I can’t take my mind away from it.
I keep thinking and thinking what is next and what happened to those elves. As I said before, I haven’t a clue, don’t know anything and I will “enjoy” the ride and feel all the emotions of this adventure. I ask you; beg you, whoever is the master, give him a very cruel end. If is still possible, can we have a happy end? Before I forget, I recall that we voted for a love story between Durfinwen and Legolas. If this is a love story, I don’t want to see a horror story from you…
I was thinking yesterday about all of what she said...eating babes, children and elves, drinking blood and all those missing parts of Belian and Melina’s bodies…and, how is possible that she is free, running wild in that forest, it is a trap? Did she escape?
If you ever write an original story, I’ll buy it without hesitation. I read a lot, but few writers make me get obsessed with their work.
Thanks again, and apologize for this long nonsense review, Usually I comment with my friends the books that I read, but none of them read fanfiction and my husband think that I have step back in age since I discovered the fanfictions in 2003. They are all fools…as your nightingale will say
Author's reply
Good heavens, what a long, involved, and very interesting review! You have picked up very cleverly on a lot of my clues, and I'm pleased that they are intriguing you. I hope you like the conclusion of this next chapter, which I am sure will answer at least some of your questions. Thanks!
Calenharn
· 20 November 2008
· Chapter 22: The Daughter of No-One
I am glad that I am not your beta. I am grateful for the dedication of Nieriel Raina. The goings-on in this (and the last) chapter have to be among the most horrendous things ever written for LOTR fanfiction.
Two chapters ago, I thought that maybe it was Kaimelas who would be the "character death" (though I still have a dim hope there). This is not discounting Belias or Melima or (most likely) Belegtilion, but we have not seen much (if any?) of them, whereas we are familiar with Kassah.
Now, I am thinking that it has to be Dúrfinwen, for how could she possibly survive all that has been done to her? For that matter, I would not have expected her to have survived up until now - excepting that it seems very much that she is a victim of what I will call "demonic" possession.
There are other possibilities, I suppose - the snake imagery could be phallic symbolism (which does not explain Legolas' encounter with Renna), OR it could have something to do with dragons and drakes. It may well be that there are still such creatures around; after all, Smaug still "graced" Middle-Earth with his presence until relatively recently.
But Dúrfinwen's seemingly schizo speech and behavior smacks all too much of possession or oppression similar to Theoden's by Saruman - and what was Saruman, after all, but (at that point) a fallen Maia - which for all practical purposes is a demonic being (the same as Sauron). In that event, the phallic symbolism (which seems to have some "real" component, as evidenced by Legolas' encounter with Renna) may be some psychic or magical emotional/psychological attack. (And who knows (I don't!) - perhaps Morgoth's dragons and drakes were not so much "natural" creatures, as they were minor orders of demons.)
I do not hold out much hope for Dúrfinwen's survival. Even if she can be released from the oppression/possession (and I note that Gimli seems to have some positive effect there, but not as much as Thorin does on Thranduil - perhaps because of the proximity of evil, and/or other factors), my understanding of canonical Elves is that she would not wish to survive the (obvious) violation. (And then the nightingale, which so far has been correct, speaks that she is "doomed"....)
But there was that dream of Legolas', of Dúrfinwen as an infant... There are some elements in there that are intriguing (including that "pale ring" - NOT a ring with a "pale stone"), which have given me some ideas. But perhaps I should not say any more on that.
Any chance of Legolas protecting Tamin's innocence after all that has happened by now (and is yet, I fear, still to come) seems to be zero - or close to it. Hopefully he can still protect Tamin's purity. (By now, I would see him fighting like a demon himself, to protect Tamin's purity.)
As grim as this chapter has been for us, the readers (on the outside looking in) one can only imagine the horror/grief/turmoil that Legolas is experiencing (though you have given us some very nice little physical clues there). His command to Bandobras to no longer call him "lord"... *shakes head sadly* I can only hope Gimli can talk some sense into him.
I don't know what to fear next - the finding of Belegtilion (dead or alive), an encounter with the Master and his army, or the discovery of some Evil which may exist beyond the Master? Please hasten the arrival of those hundred Dwarves - I fear that Legolas and his companions are going to need them.
Author's reply
Wow! Your ruminations betray a keen interest in my offerings --- I am really flattered. You've put a lot of thought into this!
I hope the next chapter (just posted) helps out with your ruminations. Enjoy!
Ithilien
· 20 November 2008
· Chapter 22: The Daughter of No-One
Holy Moly, Batgirl! What have you done? This story is getting more and more gruesome, intriguing, and perverse! Needless to say, I'm loving it! Wow, so many mysteries afoot! All I can think is that someone REALLY doesn't like elves very much. I have no idea where you go from here but am compelled to keep following, wherever you take your readers. Fascinating! (Have I thrown in enough superlatives to convey how awestruck I am? Keep up the great work!) Looking forward to more.
Author's reply
Thank you! Praise from Ithilien is praise indeed. I hope you enjoy the next chapter!
Cerencae
· 19 November 2008
· Chapter 22: The Daughter of No-One
Oh. My. GAWD.
You-
I don't-
I am speechless.
What a chapter!
Author's reply
YOU'RE speechless?! I'm shocked.
Glad you enjoyed it (though I'm not sure your reaction really conveyed enjoyment!). Hope you find the next chapter ... satisfying!
See you on LJ ...