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| Tangled Web by daw the minstrel | 26 Review(s) |
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| LKK | Reviewed Chapter: 11 on 6/25/2004 |
| I'm not sure who was dreading this day more, Sinnarn or me. The day might have been worse than Sinnarn was expecting, but it was better than I had dreaded. Thank you. :) Author Reply: You must really have been picturing some bad stuff, LKK! Once I decided that his crime was part of his work, not part of his family life, then it was easier to sort out how it might be dealt with. I didn't think Thranduil would interfere with Ithilden in either his fatherly role or his troop commander one, and I thought Ithilden would not interfere with Todith, who was Sinnarn's direct boss. In my opinion, though, having to stand at attention with Tinar there is about as bad as it gets! | |
| sofia | Reviewed Chapter: 11 on 6/25/2004 |
| wow... that must be humiliating for Sinnarn. I would be embarresed to be in that position. I'm glad Emmelin doesnt ingnore him or anything. Update soon. -sofia Author Reply: It would be awful, I agree. Tinar might be the worst part, but anyone coming in the office is going to know what happened. Ack. Poor Sinnarn. Emmelin loves him. Thank goodness. At least he knows that for sure now. | |
| Jebb | Reviewed Chapter: 11 on 6/25/2004 |
| Well after a good cry I decided to re-read and review only to find I have tears in my eyes again! Sinnarn is truly repentant a fact that comes through so clearly as does the love and support his family will give. The disppointment lecture so much more difficult to handle than a scolding. Todith was fair but firm I wonder who else is going to feel the lash of his tongue but once again Sinnarn had the support of his friend and his minder Nithron who I c ould quite understand might have wanted to cuff him around the ear. I am sure Ithilden must have considered it while he sat in his office knowing his son was standing to attention outside in total humiliation then he would no doubt have followed it up with a hug of understanding for his child's distress. .lower than Tinar could anything be worse? Ah but Thranduil what a wonderful elf love, understanding and support how lucky Sinnarn is to have him there. Although I wonder how he took the news initially! Will we see Legolas and Sinnarn's 're-union' this one will be especially hard I think uncle and nephew warrior and officer and Legolas no doubt feeling guilty for putting Sinnarn in that situation initially and then finding him drunk on duty What a wonderful chapter thank you Author Reply: Wow, Jebb. I'm glad you found this moving. I wanted it to be clear that Sinnarn was ashamed and humiliated, but that his family also made it clear they loved him. He's lucky to have that support really, even though in some ways, he has to feel pain over the fact that he disappointed all these people who care about him, friends as well as family. As a parent, I do feel for Ithilden too. It must have been hard to work knowing that Sinnarn was in the outer office. And then, as you say, what could be worse than having Tinar sneering at you? Ack!!! I suspect that Thranduil let his displeasure over the Dwarves escape be heard quite clearly over night. But I also suspect that the person who bore the brunt of that would be Ithilden. He's in charge, after all. Thranduil would make it clear that Ithilden was to do whatever it would take to make things right. | |
| Jay of Lasgalen | Reviewed Chapter: 11 on 6/25/2004 |
| All in all, that wasn't quite as bad as I expected - though I expect it felt bad enough for Sinnarn. Knowing he'd let *everyone* down, nursing a hangover, and bearing his father's disappointment must have been hard. Poor Sinnarn - especially when they don't believe he only had one cup. The biggest surprise here was Thranduil. Everyone else reacted much as I expected, including Tinar, but I expected Thraduil would be ballistic. I'd have liked to see the scene when Ithilden told him. Perhaps he's had time to calm down during the day? His support and advice was very loving. Author Reply: I think the hardest part would be telling the truth about having only one cup and having that make matters worse because people think you're lying. How frustrating that would be! I suspect you're right that Thranduil had time to calm down during the day. And if he yelled at anyone, I think it would be Ithilden, actually. He was in charge. He'd been home only a week, of course, but the buck stops on his desk. I don't think Thranduil would want to interfere with Ithilden as Sinnarn's father or with the officers who commanded Sinnarn. He'd start at the top and expect things to work their way down, which they did. Then he'd turn into Grandfather. :-) | |
| lwarren | Reviewed Chapter: 11 on 6/24/2004 |
| Can I say it once more, with feeling? POOR SINNARN! I thought you balanced his abject humiliation well with the love of his family. As for his punishment, thank goodness for good friends who still sat with him while he was waiting for the axe to fall. He definitely deserved to be punished, but holding a place lower than Tinar, how devastating, especially for the grandson of the King. Then having to stand all day at attention waiting for one measly message finally to deliver was a masterstroke...there's nothing worse than watching the world go by, knowing one's Adar is in the next room, and that everyone who sees you KNOWS all about what happened! Also, nothing is worse than "I am so disappointed in you" - a screaming rant is easier to live with. Thranduil - I wanted to hug him...the way he acted and the words he said were just right. The boy had been through it...now let's learn from the mistake, but you know I still love you *sniff*. What a great grandfather! And Emmelin, bless her heart, made me sob, too! What a sweetheart...(hope she gives a piece of her mind to him after she kisses him senseless! LOL) Just a great chapter - was waiting for this one breathlessly after ESCAPE! linda p.s. I've been reading this great story faithfully, but haven't been able to review...wanted you to know how I love the way this is woven into THE HOBBIT, and how ticked off I am right now at Bilbo and the dwarfs! :-) One more thing, read your little threat to Tinar....ROTFL....could just see you there, shaking your finger at him and saying, "You'd better behave...remember, I HAVE THE POWER!" *snicker* Author Reply: You sum up the whole situation so well in your first paragraph, Linda. He can even hear his father's voice sometimes! And I don't expect Ithilden enjoyed the sight of him every time he came out of his office either, or having visitors see his son there, or just knowing he was there and so unhappy. Aaargh! I think I have to go and hit the Dorwinion. This is bad. No, I know! I'll write the next chapter and try to move things along a little. I thought about have Thranduil rave too, but it didn't seem right. He wouldn't want to step on Ithilden's toes as Sinnarn's father or on the toes of the officers who command Sinnarn. So it seemed the perfect opportunity for Grandfather to draw on his wisdom and give the kid some good advice. I was really glad when I got to write about Emmelin showing up. It made me feel better. Glad you're enjoying the story. It's an odd one for me to write because readers essentially know the story already; they know how things will come out. So sometimes I think this has to be boring. But it's been surprisingly funny to write (though this chapter wasn't) and readers seem to be enjoying it. | |
| Bodkin | Reviewed Chapter: 11 on 6/24/2004 |
| I really must stop doing multiple reviews, but things just pop into your head! I hope Sinnarn doesn't end up deciding that he is responsible for the whole Battle of the Five Armies and the death of all those elves, because his drunken stupor allowed the escape of the dwarves - that would be unbearable for the poor poor elf. Tinar - one elf who would benefit from having his head bitten off by a dragon. Headless, he would be much more tolerable. I'm sure Calith would agree. Nithron and Amdir - good supporters. And standing at attention all day - how awful - I'm surprised he could manage it, it's terribly difficult. Author Reply: With talk of the dragon and all, I see we're thinking ahead. I don't think Sinnarn would feel responsible for the battle taking place, and unfortunately, Bard kills the dragon before the elves show up so I can't dispose of Tinar's head that way. But it's a thought! Maybe he can carry a message to Esgaroth and be there on that fateful day. Is standing at attention all day exceedindly hard? I thought it would be uncomfortable but hadn't realized it would be hard to do. I suppose one would tend to relax after a while. | |
| Bodkin | Reviewed Chapter: 11 on 6/24/2004 |
| Poor, poor Sinnarn. His fate has been keeping me awake at night! Those wretched dwarves! That dratted Hobbit! The humiliation of being considered less than Tinar - it doesn't bear thinking about. And he still has to face his mother properly! Yet he's right - he needs to be with his family and get the worst over. Legolas tried to offer him some support - but who was going to believe Galion that the Wine Fairy had been treating them to the Magic Porridge Pot. Thranduil's speech reminded me of Legolas's Turgon-moment - what can you say at a time like this once the ranting has been done? I'm glad Emmelin was waiting for him - and that Thranduil tacitly accepted her presence. Poor, poor Sinnarn. Author Reply: Standing at attention with Tinar there would have about killed any sensible person. Thank goodness Sinnarn's family made it clear they loved him. Things at home will be okay for him I think after this first day. He'll be glad to crawl home at night and lick his wounds in privacy. It occurred to me that both Sinnarn and Galion would protest they had only one cup and no one would believe them. Indeed explaining that made things worse because Ithilden and Todith thought they were lying. Thranduil really came through. He gave Sinnarn good advice and sent him on his way to Emmelin's arms. She doesn't care what happened. She loves him anyway. Bless her. | |
| Rose Sared | Reviewed Chapter: 11 on 6/24/2004 |
| Masterly, you deal with emotions so well, I ended up with tears of sympathy in my eyes. Great, wonderful, any other superlative you feel like applying. Rose Author Reply: Thank you, Rose. I was really glad to finish writing that chapter. When I got to the point where I had only Thranduil and Emmelin left to write about, I perked up and felt better because I knew they would be loving and Sinnarn sure needed that. *I* needed that! | |
| Cormak/Gwenneth | Reviewed Chapter: 11 on 6/24/2004 |
| Poor Sinnarn. I felt so badly for him. Having to stand at attention and being ignored. This chapter was very well done as have been all the others before it. I truly enjoy your writing. I was curious, do you intend to write any stories that take place after the ring has been destroyed? Author Reply: Thank you! Being at attention and ignored would really make you feel low, I think, like you weren't worth noticing. And yet, it's also not cruel in the sense that no one has hit him. He hasn't even been confined to a cell. He's just been humiliated beyond belief! Poor guy. In my list of stories to write one day is one about Legolas's return to the Woodland Realm after the Ring War. I think that stories set after the war are hard to write, though, because you've lost that sense that every action this character takes is building to this big event in the future. You know about the event, but the character doesn't. I think that's one of the things that can give fan fic an extra layer of tension, and you've lost that really after the Quest. | |
| erunyauve | Reviewed Chapter: 11 on 6/24/2004 |
| I can certainly sympathize with Sinnarn - there is nothing worse than a disappointed parent. Of course, I can imagine that disgrace as an elf is pretty difficult - you've got thousands of years ahead of you and no one will forget what you did. But to be put in a position to have even Tinar look down on you... . But grandparents are wonderful, aren't they? And I loved Emmelin's reaction - at least Sinnarn knows now that she loves him. Author Reply: I wondered about elven longevity and disgrace. The long view that elves can take might also give them a sense of proportion, so that they know that everything passes and a person who was disgraced one day can be in better shape a few hundred years down the road. Of course, that still wouldn't make it any easier to have Tinar around right now. Thranduil knew that Sinnarn had a father of his own and didn't need him to say the same things. Also, of course, he had had time to cool down. And yes, Emmelin made it clear that she loved him. He needed that! | |