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Fire and Shadow  by daw the minstrel 25 Review(s)
KarriReviewed Chapter: 6 on 1/25/2004
Woo! Daw finally clues us in. Thanks. I agree with Thranduil that Legolas could not have done more to try to save the dwarves. I feel horrible for the dwarves. In a way its nicer that the father died too, rather than suffer. I disagree that Legolas's action were worthy of discipline. He didn't disobey orders, but did his best to take control of a bad situation that was not of his making. I agree with Legolas that Eilian behaved badly as his commanding officers. Men have a duty to follows orders, but commanding officers have a duty to treat their men fairly, and based on the chapters up to this point, I don't think Eilian treated Legolas fairly. Its true Sinnarn and Amdir are green warriors, but Legolas has earned his stripes and deserved to be treated accordingly. To be honest the militancy of your universe has always bothered me a bit, but that's neither here nor there. Well, I suppose that enough. Thanks for not making us wait any longer.

Author Reply: Legolas's guilt was always for what happened rather than for his own actions. He just didn't know it. As Ithilden told him, he might have used better judgment at the start and told Eilian right away, but that's all.

That's a sharp observation about Eilian as commander. I think he needs someone to talk sense to him just as much as Legolas did!

LeraReviewed Chapter: 6 on 1/25/2004
I reread the second paragraph in my last review and couldn't understand it either. Sorry.

Oh, man. No wonder Legolas didn't remember, what a horrible thing to have happen. Oh, how awful. I'm so glad he had his ada to hold him.

But I don't understand Amdir! He and Sinnarn didn't bring the dragon to the cave. The dragon was already hunting the dwarf family. But you shouldn't be able to go through this and not feel awful about it, no matter what your part was. Amdir didn't seem upset at all, he was practically flippant! I'd like to think he isn't that unfeeling.

Adios

Author Reply: You are so right. Legolas is lucky to have Thranduil in this. He's seen a lot in his long life, including some pretty grim things, I'll bet. Legolas will take a while to heal and then build up his strength again before he goes back on active duty, so Thranduil will have time to be with him.

I think that Amdir didn't see much because he was farther away from the cave. And I think he's someone who hides his upset. I also think that he and Sinnarn have had several weeks to deal with this because they've been conscious all the time. So I guess I'm trying to excuse him. :-)

Jay of LasgalenReviewed Chapter: 6 on 1/25/2004
Ai, poor Legolas! And poor dwarves. No wonder he lost his memory of events - and had such a shock when he remembered. What a horrible thing to witness - and how much did the others see? And I understand now why Amdir and Sinnarn are in so much trouble - what were they thinking of? (as their superior officers might say).

Will Ithilden have to discipline his own son? That would be interesting to see!

Thank you for the swift update - I read the earlier chapter this morning, but did not have time to review it!


Jay

Author Reply: I think Ithilden has already disciplined his son. I think the transfer to the Home Guard was probably at Eilian's behest but at Ithilden's doing, and I doubt he did it without comment.

I figure Amdir and Sinnarn were farther away from the cave and didn't see the mother and child, although they arrived in time to see the father's reaction and to see him burn. :-(

nanethReviewed Chapter: 6 on 1/25/2004
I think I am still in shock from this chapter. It was written perfectly. The horror of the story was balanced by the love, tenderness, and care between Thranduil and Legolas.

Wow, Legolas has a lot of healing still to do, and I think that the physical aspect of the healing will be the least bothersome. Poor baby! I just want to give him a big hug. Thranduil has a lot of work to do with his youngest.

Well written, Daw! And SO quickly!! You know that we weren't *really* upset with you for that last cliff-hanger, right???? We all love your work so much that we just never want to see it end. Greedy little things, aren't we??

Author Reply: Thank goodness for Thranduil. In his thousands of years, he's seen it all and gained a lot of wisdom. Legolas is lucky to have him.

I had a lot of this chapter written from the start of the story because I needed to take a chunk of chapter 1 from it, and I drafted it and chapter 5 together because they needed to fit together. I kept going back and revising 5 as I worked on 6, so 6 was ready quickly.

I assume that my readers were upset in a good kind of way. :-0

sol3Reviewed Chapter: 6 on 1/25/2004
Oh ow....

Some tragedies unfold as they will, no matter how we try to alter them.
Poor...well, poor everyone. The loss of the dwarves would have come
in exactly the same manner, had Legolas been there or had he not; the
crying child told the dragon where to search for them before the elves
had any impact on the scene. That tragedy was already in motion and
could not be stopped. The only change in outcome I could see is if the
pair of Teenage Twits hadn't acted in a manner to pull the elves into the events of the evening. That events are beyond our influence is a hard
lesson to learn, especially when one tends to assume responsibility for
all events within reach, as poor Legolas tends to do. But I know such
grief and guilt is damn hard to get past. 'If only I'd' is one of the
cruelest mental paths to follow.

Cheers for Legolas actually asking for help and comfort, and for Thranduil to offer it without judgment. That relationship seems to be becoming much closer.

Very graphic chapter, very painful, very powerful. The only thing
you didn't include was the unique smell of burning people. But the
words and images are powerful enough for today, and I'll remember the
smell for everybody else.

And thank you for not turning Beliond into one of the Crispy Critters :)

Sol3 (who is supposed to be typing the work that pays real money right now).

Author Reply: I am wrung out from putting poor Legolas through this emotional upheaval. Now I need to get him some comfort from those who love him! I too think Legolas is to be commended for telling his story to his father. I think that Thranduil is willing to let Ithilden and Eilian deal with Legolas the warrior while he comforts Legolas the son.


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