Imhiriel
· 13 July 2013
· Chapter 32: Moving On to Mithlond
Maglor and his relation to his music - both singing and playing instruments - are one of my favourite topics. I wrote a drabble years ago (and I was a bit shocked to realise how many years ago it's now been *g*), that perhaps you might enjoy: "The Parting Gift".
I feel a rising sense of anticipation with regard to Maglor dealing - somehow - with the Silmaril, and this trip to the sea. Because although they're right, realistically they should count on having to live many, many years still waiting for the trees to grow and building a ship, looking over the titles of the remaining chapters, I can't but feel that the Silmaril and Maglor's reaction to it will result in the date for their Sailing will come much sooner.
Author's reply
Hi Imhiriel. Thanks for the link. A lovely vignette and very poignant. And no doubt you will see how Maglor deals with the Silmaril by the time I get around to respond to this review, as well as see how soon they end up Sailing. *grin*
Imhiriel
· 12 July 2013
· Chapter 30: The Long Winter
I wonder if there is some link between the sabretooth beasts and the Silmaril. It seemed from your description of the attack where Maglor got hurt that they targeted him specifically. And now those dreams, almost as if they are sending him to make him more susceptible in - what? Bringing them the Silmaril? *hmmmmmmm....*
Maglor, I do not consider myself to be among the Wise, certainly not by your standards or even Master Elrond’s
In light of the discussion after this sentence, I think you meant "...much less Master Elrond's".
But in that context, I have a more general language question which I keep encountering and keep getting wrong.
“You are very wise, wiser than I, if not wiser than my foster son.”
This means that Denethor is wiser than Maglor, but not as wise as Elrond, yes? But if the comma wasn't there before "if", it would mean that Denethor is wiser than Maglor, perhaps even wiser than Elrond, meaning the "order of wisdom" is reversed? I have found that oftentimes those sorts of sentence constructions seem so vague and depending on context, and easily misunderstood, which might make the sense of the comparison useless.
Author's reply
There may be a link, but who can truly say. Maglor senses an evil intelligence in the creatures and perhaps they are drawn to the Silmaril much like Morgoth was.
Thanks for the grammar alert. I've made the correction. As for your question, the comma's absence would not change the meaning of the sentence (though all grammarians would consider the *sentence* incorrectly written without it) since you still have an "if not" clause at the end which says that Denethor is not as wise as Elrond. If you took out the middle clause referring to Maglor it would still hold true that Denethor is not as wise as Elrond. Does that make sense?
Anyway, thanks for reviewing. It's appreciated.
Imhiriel
· 12 July 2013
· Chapter 28: A Desperate Run
“So you decided to join us.”
He squinted, trying to see who had spoken. A dark figure approached, kneeling beside him, blocking his view of the fire.
For a moment, I actually thought Maglor had died, and it was Námo who was speaking here; and my heart did an odd little jump.
I'm truly glad they're on their way back home, because between the blizzard and those sabretooth beasts, and me getting hopelessly lost in the mapping, it's time to get back to somewhere familar and settled where they can rest and draw a deep breath for a while.
Typo alert from way back in ch. 23 (I've been saving it so as not clutter your in-box with such minor details):
but the closer they came to reaching their goal the more hopeful he became that he would not be the only one for whom no one was waiting. Perhaps his ammë…. - I think you meant to say that he hoped someone would be waiting for him.
Author's reply
It is good to be back on familiar ground, no doubt about it, and I'm sure Maglor would agree with you. *grin*
Thanks for the typo alert, Imhiriel. I made the correction.
Imhiriel
· 12 July 2013
· Chapter 20: Hunkering Down
Eeeeeek!
*incoherent spluttering*
Now, that was a cliffhanger for the (ice-)ages ;-)...
I don't have anything more sensible to add, other than that I continue to find the story very original and intriguing. And I am so curious how they are going to deal with that Pandora's box you just threw in their midst...
Author's reply
I'm glad you have been enjoying this story, Imhiriel. And the Silmaril is a sort of Pandora's box for the Elves, isn't it? Thanks for reviewing. It's much appreciated.
Imhiriel
· 11 July 2013
· Chapter 7: Along Lake Nenuial
Neanderthals! I instinctively wanted to disagree with the Elves' speculation about the origin of their attackers, but it makes a certain amount of sense. And I guess if we want to claim a strand of the best "roots" via the union of Aragorn and Arwen, I guess we also cannot deny the possibility of unions of the "worst". But I just feel so sorry to think the poor Neanderthals had anything even remotely to do with orcs...
The battle, short as it was, was very tense, and I could follow its progression and tactics well.
Typo alert from back in ch. 5: you wrote "Erin Lasgalen" instead of "Eryn".
Author's reply
Hi Imhiriel. Thanks for the typo alert. I've made the correction. Not sure how that got by me. *sigh*
Anyway, I recently came across the National Geographic Genographic Project and according to that, anyone whose ancestors left Africa before a certain time has some degree of Neanderthal blood in them. I wrote this long before I'd ever heard of this, but I figured that some of the Uruk-hai group may have forced their way into the human genome at some point and that is what the Elves encounter here. Of course, they have no concept of Neanderthals, they only know that these creatures don't look like the humans they know of.
I'm glad you were able to follow the progression of the battle and the tactics used. I am not very good at giving blow-by-blow descriptions of such things. I tend to hope that the reader can fill in the blanks using his or her own imagination.
Thanks for leaving a comment. I greatly appreciate it.
Imhiriel
· 11 July 2013
· Chapter 4: The Road to Imladris
Perhaps a partial answer to my questions from my previous reviews. Maglor wants to die in Imladirs, although he doesn't know himself why he feels that way.
Continued haunting, vivid descriptions of the changed landscapes.
I think Denethor a quite well-chosen name. I have fond memories of the elf of that name from the SILM; and I somehow feel as if through this present character the Denethor from LotR can be redeemed. Little as that makes rational sense. But here we have one who has concsiously chosen hope, consciously taken it up again and champions it so beautifully, in contrast to that other one who let despair overwhelm him until his shocking, pitiful end.
Author's reply
H Imhiriel, I chose names for the Elves in this story with the idea that they would be common names, perhaps passed down through the generations, and I always liked the name Denethor anyway. Your comparison of this Denethor with the Last Ruling Stweard is very interesting. I never really thought of the parallels between them. Thanks for pointing it out and thanks for reviewing. It's greatly appreciated.
Imhiriel
· 11 July 2013
· Chapter 2: The Choice
I have a question, and I know this sounds callous and cold, and it makes me uncomforable myself, but: Why doesn't Maglor just... kill himself on the spot? Why go to all that trouble trying to die in the ice? Why not simply slit his wrists and be done with it? In all the who knows how many years of his wanderings, he must have had plenty of time, considering that the Valar needed someone or something to inspire him otherwise, and couldn't interfer directly and at a moment's notice. Does he have moral objections against a more "active" suicide? Does he use the arduousness of his journey to do penance? Or does not really want to do it, and keeps delaying it more or less unconsciously?
When reading about the wise woman, of course the idea springs up that she might be more than she seems - a Maia or even Vala in disguise. But I really prefer the idea that she is "just" what she seems, "just" an "ordinary" wise woman. I had to smile when you said in another review "there are some, you know". Agreed.
I like the thread of the plot of revisiting sites familiar to us through canon and how they have changed in the countless years since. And you describe it very visually.
Author's reply
The short answer to your question is that Maglor talks big but in his heart he's not really ready to die and we will see this as the story progresses.
And I was surprised how many reviewers were convinced that the wise woman was some Maia or Valië in disguise instead of simply a wise woman of her people. Sometimes people read more into things than is really there.
I'm glad you find my dscriptions of the landscape very visual. It was interesting to imagine how the ice age may have altered the landscape and what remained the same.
Thanks for commenting. It's much appreciated.
Imhiriel
· 11 July 2013
· Chapter 0: A Conversation Among the Valar
Fiondil, a few comments in reviews mention a short story of yours that inspired this one. Could you please tell me the name; I don't believe I have read it before and now I'm naturally curious.
I'm even more curious where you are going with this story. The setting and time frame are so completely new. But after I was so bowled over by the grandeur of Wars of the Valar, my expectations are high by the idea of you exploring a brand new landscape (landscape in more than the literal sense).
I'm pretty sure I know which Elf they are talking about in the beginning, but I haven't the faintest idea who those others will be.
Author's reply
Hi Imhriiel. The short story can be found in my "Fiondil's Tapestry" collection: "ALONE: Out of Options", but you don't really need to read that to enjoy this story as I incorporate the short story into this one pretty much verbatim. So many people wanted to know what happened next that I promised that I would expand on the story and this is what resulted. Enjoy.
someone
· 6 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
I'm glad that the newcomers have settled in Valinor (or are about to). They will still have hard time, especially the children, but they will be happier among other elves than alone in Mithlond. What suprised (and impressed) me was that elves can forgive, even with their perfect memories. It must have been strange moment for Maglor when Earendil and Elwing thanked him instead of wanting him dead.
Some elves who will remain in Middle-earth? Now who might those be... perhaps a certain golden-haired elf among them? Interesting idea that the elves did not refuse to go to Valinor but were inspired to stay.
Thank you for writing this story, Fiondil. And now that new story with a very interesting name...
Author's reply
Hi someone. It'll take a while, but I think they will all adapt quite nicely to their new environment and the children are young enough that they will adapt sooner than their elders.
And I thought it was a neat idea to sort of tie in the Elf Academy series to this one, even if indirectly.
I'm glad you enjoyed this story and I appreciate your taking the time to review. Thank you.
obsidianj
· 6 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
And so they are finally home and the story is over. I'm sad to see it close, but it is a good place to stop. On the other hand there are still more stories to tell about these people. Loved the conversation among the Valar at the end and the hints to the Elf Academy series. The Valar are not done with ME, even if they think there is nothing 'exciting' to do. It will get exciting again. I loved the comment about the 'bored' Maia.
Author's reply
Hi obsidian. Yes, the story is over, but as you point out there are more stories to tell about the Harthadrim and Maglor so perhaps if the Muse is willing we will see something in the future, though it won't be soon. At any rate, I'm glad you liked the conversation among the Valar and all, especially the comment about the 'bored' Maiar. I'm glad you enjoyed this story and I thank you for all your reviews. They were very much appreciated.
Freyalyn
· 5 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
And this is a splendid story - thank you for sharing it. And that little chink of light at the end, that some Firstborn still remain with us....
Author's reply
Hi Freyalyn. I'm glad you enjoyed this story and I thank you for taking the time to review along the way. Your comments have been very much appreciated. And that "little chink of light at the end" is a nod toward my Elf Academy series.
obsidianj
· 5 July 2013
· Chapter 42: Máhanaxar
Finally, the happy reunion. Having Earendil and Elrond speak for Maglor was perfect. I like the idea of the Harthadrim going to Lorien for some much needed time of tutoring and learning and getting accustomed to Aman. Having Finrod as tutor was the best choice. I'm sorry to see this story come to an end.
Author's reply
An another review of yours I missed somehow, obisidian j. Sorry about that. Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed this chapter and the reunion with Eärendil and Elrond. Lórien is the perfect place for them as they learn to integrate themselves into Amanian society and Finrod is indeed the best choice for this task. Thanks for being such a faithful reviewer of my stories. I appreciate it very much.
obsidianj
· 5 July 2013
· Chapter 41: The Halls of Oromë
Finally, Maglor can move on. The last remnants of his past are dealt with. The "official" ceremony is just for everyone else. The really important stuff is done. I loved it how his family rallied around him. Although, Estel was ready to dismiss the whole affair and go back to ME. That boy needs a task and soon.
Author's reply
Wow! Been re-reading this story for fun and found another review you wrote that I never answered, obsidian j. My bad. Yes, the really important stuff occurred here in Oromë and Vána's mansion. What happens on the morrow is indeed just for show. And Estel is just feeling scared and lost, as all of them are. I'm sure he'll settle down soon enough. Thanks for the review. Sorry it took a year to respond to it.
Siiw
· 4 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
I'll leave more lengthy reviews when I get time in front of a computer again, just popping in now to say how much I have enjoyed reading this story. It covers a long period of time, and still fits together perfectly and makes sense. It was so good to see some familiar faces again in the last chapters. I have become so used to seeing them in earlier stories, that it was easy to share the feeling of coming home.
Will the next story be the one about how my favourite OC got his job? :D
Author's reply
Hi Siiw. Any kind of review is great. I'm glad you enjoyed this story and I appreciate you letting me know. Thanks.
If by 'favorite OC', you mean Valandur, then you're right. *grin* I hope you enjoy it.
Tari
· 3 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
What an adventure this was; a marvelous one at that. Maglor is finally home and at peace.
Could this perhaps be the prequel to Elf Academy? It certainly fits.
Author's reply
Hi Tari. Yes, this sort of hints at Elf Academy. Very perceptive of you. I'm so glad you enjoyed this story and I appreciate you taking the time to leave reviews. Thanks.
Ellynn
· 3 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
Thanks for the great journey.
Author's reply
You're most welcome, Ellynn. I'm so glad you enjoyed this story. Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it very much.
Morn
· 2 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
Well, I've been really bad at reviewing this. I started reading when you were quite a way through so there is my excuse.
It was great to see Maglor get a happy ending and seeing a depth to his character that goes further than "Feanor's son" or to do with the silmarils and misery.
I'm glad they've finally made it, and found forgiveness and happiness at the end. Great story with a lovely happy ending.
Author's reply
That's okay Morn. Some people review every chapter, others wait until the end to leave a blanket review, whatever works best. I'm glad you enjoyed this story and, being a sucker for happy endings myself, I really wanted to give Maglor one. Poor guy really deserves it. Thanks for letting me know how much you enjoyed the story. I really appreciate it.
Twoflower2
· 2 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
Thank you for this story. I feel a bit sad it's over, though am very happy for Maglor and family, of course. Would have loved a glimpse of the Feanorians with all darkness purged out of them (something rather difficult to imagine), so can't help but harbor hope there might be a sequel. And the children have so much potential! I am looking forward to reading your next tale on Friday.
Author's reply
You're welcome, Twoflower2. It is sad when a story ends, but at least this one ends happily and who knows? There may well be a sequel but not anytime soon. I'm glad you you enjoyed this story and I appreciate you taking the time to review and let me know. And I hope you like the next story as well. Thanks again.
bookworm
· 1 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
*cheers* Everyone is home & safe and can start to heal. Also Namo rocks, I love how he reminds them all that they still have responsibilities on Middle Earth. Loved how Earendil came to say thanks (he really was the most absent parent ever...) and Elwing too, and dawww Elrond. Really liked the awkwardness of the children, and their almost-resentment too, having to follow their parents to a place they have no concept of. Just a random question, seeing as how Maglor marries Gloredhel here (yay!), what was your idea in regards to the sweetheart he supposedly left behind in Aman?
Author's reply
Hi bookworm. Námo always rocks. LOL! And did Maglor leave a sweetheart behind? I have no idea, but if he did I would hope she had the sense to realize he was never coming back and that she should find someone else who was better "sweetheart" material. At any rate, I'm glad you enjoyed the story and I appreciate you taking the time to leave reviews. Thanks.
Laer
· 1 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
I knew this was going to be a fantastic update when I had to fight with email to get in. Yes, it was a fantastic update, and sadly the last to this magnificent story. Great job as always, and I can not wait for you next story. :)
Author's reply
Hi Laer. I'm glad you enjoyed this story. Thanks for all your lovely and supportive reviews. I really appreciated them and I hope you enjoy the next story, which I will start posting on Friday.
Fadesintothewest
· 1 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
Lovely, lovely story Fiondil. I am truly sad to see it come to an end as I looked forward to reading Maglor's journey, but love the way it ended. Thanks for sharing your vision with us. So much of Maglor is caught up in sadness that for once, I was happy to see him be gifted forgiveness!
Author's reply
Hi Fades. It is always sad to see a story end. There may be a continuation of the story sometime in the future but I can't guarantee it. It depends on what the Muse decides. At any rate, I'm happy to know you enjoyed this story and I appreciate all your reviews. Thanks.
Fadesintothewest
· 1 July 2013
· Chapter 42: Máhanaxar
That chapter was very moving. The reunion between Maglor and Elrond was touching and had me teary eyed. Arthalion's reunion with his brother, was the best part of the chapter for me, though I loved it all! I am sad to see the story coming to an end. I do hope you take up aspects of this story in some future story.
Author's reply
Hi Fades. I'm glad you found the chapter moving, and Arthalion and Arthad reuniting is my favorite part of the chapter, too. Thanks for reviewing. It's much appreciated.
curiouswombat
· 1 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
And just the right ending - completing the circle. Such a satisfying tale all round; I have enjoyed every step of the journey - which is probably more than can be said of many of the participants in it!
I can imagine there may still be tales to tell of the Harthadrim - but I accept that they are for another day.
Author's reply
Hi Curiouswombat. I'm so glad you enjoyed this story and I really appreciate all your reviews. There may be more tales to tell of the Harthdrim and Maglor, but they will have to wait for another day. At any rate, an entirely new multichapter story will premier on Friday and perhaps you will enjoy it. Thanks again for all your wonderful reviews.
Sunny
· 1 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
Oh well - yes, I suppose this was a natural stopping place - I would have loved seeing Maglor meeting his naneth and his brothers again, though. But hopefully your Muse will see the potential of seeing those young and, ahem, high-spirited young Harthadrim meet the staid Valinorean society. I can just imagine it! And the Valar and the Maiar themselves would probably be sitting back, enjoying the show and sipping Margaritas. Russandol especially sounds as if he is a new Glorfindel in the making, and that even though he hasn't gone through Mandos, though I'd guess all the children are probably real handfuls.
So Míriel - and her ships - makes the redoubtable Círdan want to leave the seashore and go pick her brain? Sounds as if he is fuming at not having her _right there_ to go over every millimeter of both those ships with him!
I've noticed your placeholder for a new story - has your Muse been channeling Ian Fleming? ;)
Author's reply
Hi Sunny. Well, the story had to end at some point and I think all the major events were covered. There may be other stories about the Harthadrim in the future but that is for the Muse to decide. In the meantime, a new story will be posted on Friday and, no, I didn't channel Ian Fleming when I was writing it. LOL! It's a bit different from my other stories but hopefully you will enjoy it.
Anyway, thanks for all your comments and suggetions, and thanks for nagging me to write this. *grin* I'm glad that I was able to satisfy your desire to know what happened to Maglor and the Harthadrim after they departed from the vicinity of Imladris.
Kevana
· 1 July 2013
· Chapter 43: Epilogue: Another Conversation Among the Valar
What a perfect way to bring us full circle! Even though we didn't get to see Maglor's reunion with his other family members, given their status as Reborn I'm sure they welcomed him with open arms, and it's good to know they had backup waiting in the wings just in case. And maybe they did eventually get a proper tea with the Valar, after everything settled down, haha.
Now I'm curious about Estë's lake and what's so dangerous about it, other than the lady herself. Well, I guess I just answered my own question, there. *grin* Cirdan trying to sail on it, pfft, that's a priceless image in any case.
It's great, too, you left it open-ended in that some Elves could still be wandering around in the developing world. I really liked the reference to the war you mentioned in other short stories that led to the Flood. Do you have any idea of when that took place in regards to this story - long before, shortly before, during it?
I had to laugh at Námo's line about closing up shop and going home. And the poor bored Maiar. *giggle*
I so enjoyed how you showed this little family coming together, growing, and persevering over so much. Such a satisfying conclusion, Fiondil. Great job, great story, kept me on the cliff's edge quite a few times and broke my heart a few times too. I'm so thankful for all the hard work you put into this, and thankful to Sunny as well for encouraging you to write this in the first place after you did the short story!
I hope Maglor went on to write many more songs that became "modern classics" to the Elves. I wonder if he ever put together the tale of the Harthadrim? I'm sure there were many in Aman who wanted to hear such a thing! It's amazing. It's like if William Shakespeare happened to saunter up and began writing more plays after being gone for centuries (well, if the Bard was immortal and had also happened to have just been forgiven for kinslaying..) I wonder if he eventually had a lot of young wannabes banging on his door and wanting to apprentice with him! LOL.
Congratulations on another completed story and thanks for taking us on the journey. It was worth it!
You have a glorious week and a fantastic Fourth! Watch out for stray fireworks, and I'm eagerly awaiting your next project.
-Kevana
Author's reply
Hi Kevana. I thought it was appropriate to begin and end the story with the Valar.
The last ice age ended abruptly about 13,000 years or so ago in the southern hemisphere and came to an end in the northern hemisphere about 2000 years later, so this story takes place in part of that time period when I imagine there were major climatic changes all around and perhaps some places warmed up sooner than others and some places may have suffered more cold for brief periods of time before the climate moderated.
Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed this tale and that you found the ending satisfying. I enjoyed writing this story though there were times when I had no idea what was going to happen next. *grin* Thanks for all your lovely, long reviews. I appreciated every one of them.
Have a glorious week and a fantastic Fourth, yourself, and I hope you enjoy the next story which I will start posting beginning Friday.