Laikwalâssê
· 20 June 2011
· Chapter 34: On the Naming of Names
poor boy. Soon he will understand the meaning of this stupid name. I admire Elrond´s restraint to not him his the truth. And it will only getting harder. Lovely glimpse at a moment between Estel and his Ada. Thank you. Lai
Author's reply
Hi Lai. Eventually he will understand the true meaning of his name. I'm sure there were any number of times when Elrond and Gilraen wanted to tell him the truth but had to bite their tongues. Glad you enjoyed this. Thanks for letting me know. I really appreciate it.
6336
· 19 June 2011
· Chapter 34: On the Naming of Names
Hm, I wonder what Glorfindel had to say about it when he found out, though I don't think the first Finrod would mind too much.
Good one, I like your Estel/Aragorn/Strider whatever stories! (That man has so many names you need a plam pilot to keep track of them!)
Huggs,
Lynda
Author's reply
Hi Lynda. I'm sure Glorfindel would have been pleased. I'm glad you like my Estel/Aragorn/Thorongil/Strider, etc. stories. Maybe he has so many names because he was searching for the right one. *grin* Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate very much.
AzureSkye
· 18 June 2011
· Chapter 34: On the Naming of Names
LOL. I can see that conversation, "Nana, why didn't you like the name Elerosse?" :) And Elessar will have a son Eldarion, so the El-names continue! *grin* And misspelling Aragorn... that was just hilarious. A beautiful mix of genealogy, language lessons, and humor!
Author's reply
Hi AzureSkye. I thought him misspelling his own name (though he doesn't know it) was pretty funny myself. I can't tell you how many times I've misspelled it (and Glorfindel's name, and Legolas' name, and....). Luckily, my beta catches all the misspellings. I'm glad you enjoyed this. Thanks for letting me know. I quite appreciate it.
shirebound
· 18 June 2011
· Chapter 34: On the Naming of Names
This is delightful. I can imagine Elrond and 'Elessar' remembering this conversation once Aragorn is crowned King.
Author's reply
Hi Shirebound. I'm sure they did remember this conversation, or perhaps Elrond reminded him of it and they had a gentle laugh over it. I'm glad you found this delightful. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
Kaylee Arafinwiel
· 18 June 2011
· Chapter 34: On the Naming of Names
Oh, Atto! What a sweet father/son scene. I loved how Elrond came *that close* to letting it slip...but not yet, it's not yet time...
Speaking of that family tree, I was working on it today, too, coincidentally! Arwen is cousins so many times over with herself, I think the hobbits would even be taken aback, possibly! I wonder what my family tree maker software would list as the kinship connections for Eldarion to himself...but I haven't put in the Dunedain side yet, the Elven one was complicated enough!
Thank you for this, it made my wait for Monday a /little/ more bearable! (but oh, Arafinwe...Pityahuan...*huggles him* You never did answer my question about what would Finrod and Vorondil say if they found out. *grin* Will that come up in the Wedding tale?)
Tye-melin,
Kaylee
Author's reply
Hi Kaylee. Elrond certainly was tempted to tell Estel the truth, but it wasn't time, though it would be soon enough. I'm sure you're right about the Elven family tree giving even Hobbits pause, especially if you throw the Dúnedain into the mix. LOL! As Nilmandra has one of the Twins say in one of her "History" stories, they're related to everyone!
Sorry about forgetting to answer your question, which is a very good one, and you forgot Glorfindel and what his reaction might be. I'm sure they would be shocked, as who wouldn't, but I'm also sure they would have even more respect and love for Arafinwë than before. And Finrod is such a noble spirit, he would even forgive the Valar for what was done to his atto, though Vorondil might have a problem with it at first. Perhaps it will come up in "Wedding"; you never know.
Thanks for reading and reviewing, Kaylee. You know how much I appreciate your comments. Tye-melin.
Tari
· 15 June 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
As was stated, we all grieve differently. Who's to say Gimli's spirit did not appear to Legolas. Perhaps Iluvatar willed it so in order for Legolas to finaly come to terms with his loss and be able to move on.
Author's reply
Very true, Tari. And who is to say that Ilúvatar didn't do as you suggest to help Legolas to come to terms with his loss and move one? It's as plausible an explanation as any. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I really appreciate it.
Larner
· 2 June 2011
· Chapter 33: Seeds of the Future
An excellent look at how that particular argument was settled. Love Gandalf's willingness to intervene obliquely, making certain that all factors are considered.
Author's reply
I'm glad you enjoyed this, Larner. Thanks for letting me know.
Larner
· 2 June 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
For immortals to appreciate the endurance of the mortal spirit is perhaps difficult, I suppose. But Gimli understands his friend in ways they do not. Irmo's advice is excellent, by the way!
Author's reply
Hi Larner. Yes, I imagine it would be difficult for most Elves to appreciate this and certainly Gimli would understand Legolas far better than even someone like Elrond or Gandalf. Glad you think Irmo's advice excellent. Of course, it remains to be seen if they actually follow it. *grin* Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
Ellynn
· 1 June 2011
· Chapter 33: Seeds of the Future
This is a wonderful tale, Fiondil. It was among my favorites on ALEC contest. :)
Author's reply
Thanks, Ellynn. I appreciate you letting me know.
Erulisse (one L)
· 1 June 2011
· Chapter 33: Seeds of the Future
Oh, I loved this story of yours, Fiondil. It was such a pivotal moment in the history of the Dunedain, and just think what might have happened if Aragon's parents had never been allowed to wed. Catastrophe.
To even compete with you and Aearwen was such a privilege :-)
- Erulisse (one L)
Author's reply
Hi Eurlisse. Yes, the thought of them not marrying and not having Aragorn doesn't bear thinking about. Thanks for reading and reviewing and congratulations on your own story.
someone
· 1 June 2011
· Chapter 33: Seeds of the Future
I'm always happy to see a new story added to Vairë's Loom!
So, Mithrandir was the one who managed to finally convince Dírhael. An interesting story that could have happened, as a certain wizard seems to meddle in everyone's business. And as always, the dinner has many dishes/courses and is very detailed (trout and red potatoes sound very good)!
And Gilrael's name comes from headgear. I remember reading that from somewhere... and somewhere else it was "Wandering Star" (if I remember right), but apparently that was not what Tolkien meant. Nice to know :).
Thank you for writing this story.
Author's reply
Hi someone. Yes, Mithrandir can be blamed for this. *grin* I'm glad you look forward to my Loom stories and that you enjoyed this one. Thanks for letting me know. I really appreciate it.
6336
· 1 June 2011
· Chapter 33: Seeds of the Future
Given the age to which the Northen Dunadain lived, between 150 and 200 years, it is understandable that Dirheal would have reservations about his daughter marrying so young.
There is more than one way and more than one type of seed to plant, Mithrandir is a very canny gardner!
Thank you for the meaning of Gilrain's name, I knew it had something to do with stars, but that was as far as I got.
Once again, where would M.E. have been and how differantly things would have played out if Mithrandir had not been around to nudge things in the right direction!
Huggs,
Lynda
Author's reply
Hi Lynda. And of course that was Dírhael's argument all along, but sometimes fate or destiny requires a different response. And we can be thankful that Mithrandir followed the urgings of his heart or who knows what would have happened. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it a whole lot.
Rhyselle
· 19 May 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
This was just lovely, Fiondil.
I can totally understand Legolas' frustration with everyone trying to "distract" him from his mourning. When my mother went West, I was so busy with dealing with the legal and property matters that I was unable to mourn immediately after her death. It several months later that I really was able to begin to process my grief, and some well-meaning folk kept telling me that I "should be over it" by that point in time.
Yes, let Legolas mourn at his own pace. Even if it is a more "mortal" style of grieving. It occurs to me that because Legolas chose to spend most of his last century in Middle-earth with mortals, that he became habituated to the way that mortals lived--the faster pace, the way they interacted... and the way they grieved.
I did notice how you sneaked in the fact that Bilbo and Frodo had definitely pre-deceased Gimli; in fact, had been gone for some time before Legolas had sailed, as you mentioned that their friends only visited their gravesite on the anniversary of their deaths. There's been some intriguing conversations about just how long they would have lasted on Tol Eressea, based on the information we have from Professor Tolkien on how mortals would be affected by living in the Undying Lands.
I think that I lean towards the side that Gimli's spirit is still hanging about the tomb, even though Irmo and Olorin couldn't see or sense him. He is not an elf, after all, and Professor Tolkien's writings on the afterlife of Dwarves don't rule out the possibility that they might hang about their burial places. (Hmmmm. That might also be part of why Moria is so horrible... all those murdered Dwarves...) Perhaps Aule would have seen Gimli, had he been there. :)
Finally, since the Elves don't know that they will be reunited with the other Children of Illuvatar at the ending of the world--many don't even seem to have the belief that all will be reunited, Elf, Man, Dwarf, at the end of all things--no wonder that Legolas' grief is so profound. And even those who do believe that there must be something for the Elves beyond the ending of Arda, almost everyone else in Valinor and Tol Eressea have not built relationships with the few mortal blessed to come there, and so don't have the same need that Legolas does to know that a reunion is possible. Hmmm. I need to do some more thinking on this. There you go, Fiondil... your fics don't only give me enjoyment; they take my mind onto different paths of contemplation and thought.
An excellent addition to the Tales, dear friend. Thanks for sharing it.
Author's reply
Hi Rhyselle. Well, as anyone who's grieved, there is no schedule or timeline. Grief has its own season and its length is depended on the individual. I know it was almost a year after my mom died before her death became 'real' for me and I could begin to move forward.
I suppose I should've been more consistent with a previous story "Somewhere I Have Never Traveled" in which Frodo and Sam make a deal with Namo to stick around until Gimli and Legolas arrived, but I'd forgotten about it and I've decided not to change it. I think I'm allowed some inconsistencies in my stories (certainly Tolkien had plenty); they don't always have to coincide. *grin*
Anwway, your analysis about the Elves and their own lack of knowledge of what will happen at the Remaking and how that might affect them is very astute. I'm glad my stories not only entertain but make you and other readers think about things they normally wouldn't.
Thanks for taking the time to read and review. I really appreciate it.
galathil
· 18 May 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
This bought tears to my eyes,I love this chapter. It would serve the others right well if Gimili came and spoke to them,the look on their faces would be priceless.He!He!
Love Galathil
Author's reply
Hello galathil. I'm glad you liked this story. And that would be pretty funny to see, Gimli coming back from the dead and giving the Elves what-for on Legolas' behalf. LOL! Thanks for taking the time to read and review. I appreciate it very much.
Erulisse (one L)
· 18 May 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
Fiondil, how much I truly loved this. I am surprised, however, that Lord Irmo and Olorin, when they had shed their fana, were unable to see Gimli's essence still in the glade. But I am glad that Legolas can take the time needed to pull away from his best friend in a gentle manner. My tears are just envy that I did not have that opportunity. Thank you, my friend, for this tale.
- Erulisse (one L)
Author's reply
Hi Erulisse. I purposely made the ending ambiguous: was Gimli really there in spirit, or was it all in Legolas' mind? So when Irmo and Olórin shed their fanar, maybe there was nothing there for them to see, or maybe they just didn't notice. Anyway, I'm glad you loved this story. Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it very much.
Caunedhiel
· 18 May 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
That was beautiful :)
I have tears pricking at my eyes now, Oh you can feel how much legolas misses his friend, how much he misses talking to him.
So sad but truly beautiful
Kim
xx
Author's reply
Hello, Kim. I'm very glad to know you enjoyed this story so much. Thanks for letting me know. I really appreciate it.
6336
· 18 May 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
I see nothing wrong with talking to the dead or having a conversation with them, sometimes they are the only people who understand you.
Everybody greives at his own pace, Legolas and Gimli have been together for over 120 years, a very long time for a mortal and an Elf and now he is gone and Legolas does not have the comfort of knowing that sometime in the near future he will be Re-born. Gimli is gone and until the Remaking of Arda he is not coming back.
I think Olorin and Elrond and his friends need to back off a little and let Legolas greive at his own pace, putting restrictions on his visits, although done with the best intentions, is not the right thing to do. As Irmo points out Legolas is a little better each time he comes back, so quit with the pretty, though empty headed, ellith and let him get on with it his own way!
Perhaps the Hobbits graves are only visited once a year because their friends miss them so much and this is a way to cope with missing them?
Huggs,
Lynda
Author's reply
Hi Lynda. Well, we Mortals see nothing wrong with it and many people do take the time to visit a cemetery and talk to their loved ones, but for Elves, they wouldn't understand the need. And you may be right about why the Hobbits' graves are not visited as often. It's one thing to know that a loved one will eventually be returned from Mandos but it's another to know that someone will never return at all and that particular grief is probably more poignant for Elves than for Mortals.
Thanks for reading and reviewing. It's much appreciated.
Fantasia
· 18 May 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
This is really a beautiful and touching story. Every person deal with grief at his own pace and time. Some people get comfort in visiting a tomb, other in placing flowers at home and other will move on and so on. What is true, is that time is the only thing that helps, it sounds so an empty phrase when is said, but it is so true.
Lovely story, I thought that Namo might have a different POV, maybe he can actually see Gimli.
Author's reply
Hi Fantasia. I'm glad you found this a beautiful and touching story. I purposely did not have Námo in this story since he deals with the dead and Legolas is still living, and that's why Olórin went to Irmo for advice. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I really appreciate it.
Lynn H
· 18 May 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
Only second place? Amazing! This is so real!
Author's reply
Thanks, Lynn. There was a lot of competition for this challenge, so I'm happy to have placed at all.
ellie
· 18 May 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
I feel so sorry for Leggy here. he is suffering and grieving and so many folks just don't get it as far as how he has chosen to grieve and go on so to speak. I really enjoyed the conversation he had with Gimli. This story is so sad and very well done.
Author's reply
Hi Ellie. I'm glad you enjoyed this, especially Legolas' conversation with Gimli. Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it.
shirebound
· 18 May 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
In your heart where death cannot go, I’ll always be there.
That's lovely. This is a gentle tale, full of love and longing and great wisdom. I wish Legolas peace... and I hope the hobbits' resting places are also visited more often, and remembered with love.
Author's reply
I'm so glad you enjoyed this, Shirebound. I'm sure Legolas will find peace eventually and while the Hobbits' resting place may not be visited all that often, I'm sure they are still remembered with love by those who knew them. Thank you for taking the time to read and review. I really appreciate it.
Sunny
· 18 May 2011
· Chapter 32: A Conversation with the Dead
Fun story!
I suppose Legolas really needs to talk with someone who really understands mortality - and while someone like Elrond or Olórin may be as sympathetic as you would want, they are not quite right for everything involved in his healing.
Hm. I wonder what Námo or Aulë would have said if they had been in that dell...
Author's reply
Hi Sunny. Glad you enjoyed the story. Legolas needs someone like Aragorn right now, but since he doesn't, visiting Gimli's grave is the next best thing. What Námo or Aulë would have said is anyone's guess. Thanks for reading and reviewing.
Tari
· 17 May 2011
· Chapter 31: The Last Gift
How sad for Thranduil. I oftened wonder how it is that he never felt the call of the sea too. I always assumed it would eventually draw all the elves to the Undying Lands. Surely he know Legolas couldn't resist forever. All he had to do was leave himself and he would be reunited with his beloved son.
Author's reply
Hi Tari. Of course, Tolkien tells us nothing about whether Thranduil ever sailed, so it's been left to the rest of us to decide his fate and in my Tapestry story, "QUARREL: Confronting Namo", Thranduil does indeed make it to the Undying Lands. For the moment, though, he is not ready to sail and has too much responsibility as king to just leave. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
Larner
· 24 April 2011
· Chapter 31: The Last Gift
Alas, the bow cannot go to Legolas now, and not by his father bringing it to him in Ithilien. But it CAN go to him should he choose in time to sail.
But it is very difficult to lose a child in such a manner. Sad and all too likely.
Author's reply
Hopefully a day will come when Thranduil will indeed sail and bring this gift with him, but until then I'm afraid he will be grieving for some time. Thanks for reading and reviewing. I appreciate it.
Larner
· 24 April 2011
· Chapter 30: Any Port
A perfect adaptation of the psalm, and an excellent example of estel.
Author's reply
Hi Larner. I'm so glad you enjoyed this, especially the adaptation of the psalm. Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it very much.