Elf, Interrupted: Book Two: Glorfindel's Quest by Fiondil

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Agape4Gondor · 8 February 2009 · Chapter 43: Gardener of Souls

The first part of this chapter was absolutely fraught with emotion – on MY part! I could empathize totally with Glorfindel. Ranting and raving in the arms of one who loves you is about the only way to do it. Manwë is gorgeous here…. Definitely! That Manwë should be the one who came to comfort Glorfindel seems appropriate to me. Not many of the Secondborn had ever personally and bodily spoke with Ilúvatar. There is meaning in that and I’m sure that fact has not escaped Manwë. "Would you like to help?" I really laughed at this – for a moment, I thought the Maia was asking Glorfindel if he’d like to help Vorondil attack people! : ) “The ellon stopped, cringing at the sound of the hated Quenya version of his name…” OH MY! “A gardener of souls…” – a beautiful thought. One little quibble – In researching my own writings, I have searched all of Tolkien’s books and found no mention of the word ‘soul’ – he does, however, use spirit, seemingly in its place. “You were ‘dead-heading’ a part of her that needed to be removed…” – THIS made me extremely uncomfortable, because it makes so much sense… too close to home, dear Fiondil…. As I’ve said before, my T-shirt reads: Everything I ever needed to know, I learned from Elf Interrupted! “In Ilúvatar’s eyes we are all equal.” I absolutely adored the dream of the garden – very well written. You never fail to surprise me!!!! However - - It brought to mind the image of Glorfindel dying as he slew the Balrog. It is Glorfindel’s own blood that waters the garden. A sad and chilling thought…. I will tell you this, Fiondil, you always make me think and feel and sometimes that is MOST uncomfortable. I sometimes feel like Glorfindel – slowly being nurtured into greater growth. Thank you! From the bottom of my heart!

Author's reply

Hi, Apage. I'm glad that you liked this chapter so much, especially Manwë's interaction with Glorfindel and the whole thing with the garden, especially the dream. I like your idea that Glorfindel has watered the garden with his own blood. A chilling thought, perhaps, but apropos. WIth regards to the use of the word 'soul'... I debated about calling this chapter "Gardener of Fëar" but went with 'soul' (rather than 'spirit') for a couple of reasons. One, is that 'soul' and 'spirit' are synonomous. 'Spirit' is ultimately from the French 'espirit' and Latin 'spiritus' meaning: 'the animating or vital principle in a person'. The word appears in Middle English usuage circa 1250. 'Soul' is from Old English _sawol_ meaning: 'spiritual and emotional part of a person'. In Greek and Latin the two aspects of a person (spirit and emotion) are differentiated: pneuma v. psykhe (Greek), spiritus v. anima (Latin), respectively. I decided to use the more wholistic 'soul' to convey both aspects. A second reason is that 'soul' has the additional meaning of a 'person, an individual'. 'Spirit' would not have conveyed that secondary image and I wanted to have both meanings implied. The Quenya fëa encompasses both 'soul' and 'spirit' as the emotional and animating force which lies within the hröa. There is also fëafelmë meaning 'spirit-impulse', i.e. the impulses or emotions originating with the spirit (animating force), such as love, pity, anger, hate, etc. Ultimately, though, I just decided to keep the entire chapter title in English and use 'soul' as being more inclusive of all connotations. Anyway, I hope that clears things up for you a bit. And you are most welcome. I am glad that my writing makes you (and others) think and feel even if it is uncomfortable. I want people to 'think outside the box' and see things in new ways and perhaps better ways. Thanks for taking the time to send me this review. I really appreciate it.

Elflingimp · 8 February 2009 · Chapter 43: Gardener of Souls

Just wanted you to know how much I liked this chapter, you really know how to write a story, can't wait to see what happens next. Hugs The Imp P.S. You made me hungry for pancakes! LOL!

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Thanks, Elflingimp> I'm glad you enjoyed this chapter. I hope you got to eat some pancakes as well. *lol*

Sitara · 8 February 2009 · Chapter 43: Gardener of Souls

Gardener of souls...I like this, I like it very much. I believe Glorfindel has never thought until now that all that he was striving for, as a warrior and protector for his king and people, could be summed up like this. Niondil seems to be another precious Maia. The Children surely are in need of such Maiar. "sigh" And maybe Ingwe and Olwe know more than Glorfindel thinks concerning their guardian Maiars, if I'm remembering correctly one of your vignettes. As did know Finwe and Elwe too. And to think how clumsy was Glorfindel with gardening...only to find out that there is more than one kind of gardening and a gardener sometimes has to cut off a withered branch in order to save the rest of the plant. Or to let the hroa to die in order to save the fea. Of course, Glorfindel didn't have need to go that far with Lisselinde. "smile" But..."raising in a challenge an eyebrow at the Elder King" Indeed, if Glorfindel was capable to get the upper hand confronting three Maiar warriors, he certainly will deserve a Maia's respect, even if that Maia's name is Lisselinde. Even she would undestand that her arrogance is truly out of the place. Especially after her "chat" with Lord Namo. And after such a start, her future interactions with Glorfindel could bring forth other feelings as well. Understanding, acceptance, even affection, maybe? Time would tell. But that makes me to think that Manwe's warriors need more training...after all they have at least one battle more to fight. "laughing" Don't mind me, please. Well, this time I barely kept myself from applauding Glorfindel. To try giving a black eye to a Vala! I understand Glorfindel's anger, although I believe he's taking it out on the wrong persons. Neither Tiutalion nor Manwe had deserved this but I suppose they knew that's in their job descriptions. "smile" As for Manwe...he has disarmed me just with one act, you know. His job is the most difficult from all the jobs of Arda. The dream was also a beautiful way to project both the present and the future for our hero. I loved the idea, Fiondil. The entire story is more than lovely, dear writer, and while half of my heart enjoys it, the other half is weeping. Weeping and hoping. I suppose we would learn in the near future something about our other heroes. As interesting as Glorfindel is, I already miss them.

Author's reply

Thanks, Sitara. I'm glad you enjoyed this chapter. Glorfindel is definitely a handful even for the Valar, never mind the Maiar. *grin* I'm also pleased that you liked the idea of the dream garden. As for our other heroes... we'll drop in on them eventually, but at the moment Glorfindel is taking center stage.

6336 · 8 February 2009 · Chapter 43: Gardener of Souls

I take it Glorfindel is having a kitten fit because Manwe only sent 3 Warrior Maia to protect him from Lissalinde! I think he enjoyed the work out along with the Maia! I liked how gentle and caring the rest of the chapter was and the image of Glorfindel as a gardener of prople! No reason they should not have pancakes and maple syrup in Aman, just so long as they don't have a Micky D's or an I.H.O.P.! More please, Lynda

Author's reply

I'm pretty sure that Micky D and I.H.O.P. have not invaded Aman yet. *lol* Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter, especially the part about the garden. However, Glorfindel isn't angry because Manwë sent *only* three warrior Maiar. He's angry that Manwë sent *any* Maiar at all, especially to supposedly protect him. As far as Glorfindel is concerned, the Maiar should have been protecting Lisselindë from him, not the other way around. Glorifndel's warriorhood has been insulted, as far as he's concerned. That is why he is so angry.

Thalanee · 8 February 2009 · Chapter 43: Gardener of Souls

I loved that chapter. I wonder why Glorfindel was offended that Manwe sent three warrior Maia to look after him: after all he didn´t mean to imply that Glorfindel wasn´t capable of protecting himself. It only shows that the Valar love him and therefore want to protect him. Niondil´s conversation with Glorfindel was wonderful (though I kept misreading his name... I wonder why ;-) ) +"Now there you are wrong," Niondil interrupted. "We may have greater powers and have existed for longer than you but other than that we are created beings, no less than you, and we make mistakes just as you do. Each order of being has its own gifts and abilities which Ilúvatar meant to be shared with his other Children for the benefit of all. In Ilúvatar’s eyes we are all equal. In Ilúvatar’s eyes the lowest soul in all of Arda is of no less worth or importance than the Elder King himself and the converse is equally true.+ That is incredibly touching... somehow I had tears in my eyes when I read this. As always, I´m already looking forward to the naxt chapter! Greetings, Thalanee

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Hi, Thalanee. I happy to hear you loved this chapter. Manwë sending the Maiar might have been a sign of love and perhaps if he had only sent one Glorfindel would have acknowledged that, but sending three seemed (to Glorfindel) like over-kill and somewhat insulting considering he fought against a balrog and all. I'm glad Niondil's speech touched you. It was meant to and, along with the 'warrior-as-gardener' theme, it is the heart of the 'message' being conveyed. Next chapter will highlight Lisselindë and her 'little chat' with Lord Námo.

Kitty · 8 February 2009 · Chapter 43: Gardener of Souls

That didn’t look too well in the beginning, with Glorfindel so furious. I’d not expected him to be offended that the warrior Maiar were sent to protect him. Oh well, warriors and their honour ... I rather admired Tiutalion for keeping so friendly and good-natured during all that. At the moment it is really difficult to keep up with Glorfindel and his fast changing moods. Though the chapter gives me the feeling he was able to spend a lot of his piled up anger now. Niondil (I keep misreading that name – wonder why? ;-)) did a great job with Glorfindel, I believe. The thought of the warrior as a gardener of souls is fascinating, and I think, appropriate. Particularly with someone who sacrificed himself for others without thought like Glorfindel did in Gondolin. And Niondil managed to keep Glorfindel busy and comparatively happy during the day. Well done! He needs something like that – doing something useful, keeping his hands busy while still being able to think about this or that. Glorfindel’s dream was lovely – I wonder if Lord Irmo had something to do with it? At the moment it seems he’s finally beginning to come to terms with what happened lately, though with Glorfindel, I’d not take anything for granted ... Now I look forward to his next encounter with Lisselindë. I wonder what state she will be in after her little chat with Námo ...

Author's reply

Hi, Kitty. Yes, warriors and their honor... *lol* Glorfindel was offended that Manwë sent any Maia at all. He's sure he could have handled Lisselindë, who, after all, is no balrog. Niondil is one of those characters whom I do not create but simnply appear. I didn't even know his name at first! *lol* But now that he's intruded into the story, I rather like him and his slant on things. We may see more of him in the future. I'm sure Lord Irmo (with a little help from Niondil) did indeed have something to do with his dream, reinforcing the lesson Niondil gave him earlier. We'll see Lisselindë in the next chapter. Thanks for your review. I appreciate it.

Sunny · 8 February 2009 · Chapter 43: Gardener of Souls

Glorfindel in a temper must be an impressive sight – one preferably viewed from a safe distance. I suppose Lisselindë should have been more concerned, but it seems rage drove away any other thought. Glorfindel is known as Balrog-slayer for a reason… though I suspect she might have preferred a pissed-off Glorfindel to one of Námo’s famous little talks. Wonder if Eönwë is binding a volume right now just for Glorfindel? He (Glorfy, that is) certainly seems bent on keeping Eönwë hard at work with his writing. So Manwë himself showed up to deal with Glorfindel’s bout of temper. I think that was a commendable bit of caution. The Valar are after all concerned about his mental state, and while Tiutalion might have been able to handle him on his own, I suppose the Valar felt it was better to be safe than sorry. And Glorfindel has this uncomfortable habit of surprising them. And an additional “surprise” – with the attendant mental stress, added to all the recent traumatic events Glorfindel has suffered … yep, opting for caution definitely makes sense. And when the adrenaline ran out, Glorfindel was out like a light. Yet something - either in his confrontation with Lisselindë or in his fight with Manveru, Fionwë and Erunáro – seems to have stirred up unpleasant memories from his previous life. Wonder what will come of that? No pranks in this chapter either – but then Glorfindel is hardly in the right mood for that right now. Though Glorfindel’s day was spent happily enough, “playing in the dirt”. Glorfindel’s interaction with Niondil was lovely. The idea of the warrior-protector as gardener is definitely original, and very well thought out. And I absolutely loved the dream sequence! Particularly the bare bit of earth that represented the future. That connected the dream very strongly with what he had been doing the last day, and must have made the dream very immediately real for Glorfindel. Irmo must have gotten a very thorough report on Glorfindel’s day with Niondil, and must also have spent a fair amount of time and effort crafting that dream. I suspect that Glorfindel is going to wake up in a much happier mood. (Dare I hope that that mood will last?)

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Well, Manwë showing up does make sense on several levels. First, he's the one who sent the warrior Maiar and second, Glorfindel is his unofficial apprentice, so he feels responsible towards him. But certainly, as the Elder King, he is the best to handle Glorfindel's temper, since Námo is presently occupied with Lisselindë. *grin* I'm glad you liked the 'warrior-protector-as-gardener' image, as well as the dream sequence. I'm sure Irmo had a great deal of fun crafting that particular dream/vision for Glorfindel, especially with Niondil 'helping'. I'm sure Glorfindel will wake up in a much happier mood, but it's anyone's guess how long it will last. With Glorfindel one can take nothing for granted. *grin* Thanks for the review, Sunny. I really appreciate it.

rick · 3 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

yes! keep going... Nothing like a good spat to get things out from under the rug. In case you can't figure it out, I really liked this chapter (& the last one too)- can't wait for the next development.

Author's reply

Hi, Rick. Oh I intend to, never fear. *grin*. Glad you liked this chapter and the last one as well. Thanks for letting me know.

Thalanee · 3 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

It seems that Lisselinde has some serious issues: granted as a Maya she is incredibly old and she did sing before Atar´s throne, but the Ainur are Eruhini just as the Quendi and the Edain, so being a Maya doesn´t make her superior. Glorfindel has some hard work cut out for him... I wonder why people always think that serving someone is something demeaning, something to be avoided... Glorfindel´s lesson was certainly impressive! The Mayar took it serious, I guess, even though they called it playing, but I think if they had really tried Glorfindel wouldn´t have won. Lisselinde is obviously not the only one with issues... Glorfindel is still angry at the Valar... Melkor´s lies still at work? Are we going to listen in on Namo´s words of wisdom?

Author's reply

I think the problem many people have is the societal notions as to what is deemed worthy and what is not. Serving is not a glamorous as being the one who is served. People think they *deserve* to be served by others and find the thought of doing the same to someone else demeaning to their perceived status. Yet, service is actually more noble. The trick it to serve with humility without being servile. As Námo pointed out to Ingwion in an earlier chapter, anything done with love is never menial, howsoever others might view it. I'm sure Glorfindel is not the only Elf with issues concerning the Valar and obviously it is a holdover from the time of the Rebellion. Hopefully, over time, these Elves will come to realize that the Valar were not as unmoved by what happened as they supposed and their anger will be resolved. As for listening in on Námo's little chat with Lisselindë.... only the Muse knows at this point, but I think we might get a glimpse of it in a future chapter. *grin* Thaks for your thoughts, Thalanee. I appreciate you taking the time to share them with me and my other readers.

Hel · 2 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

I get the impression that the warrior-maiar think of any fight in which they didn´t actually try to kill someone or someone tries to kill them as "play". Glorfindel shurely sees the situation different. I´m not even shure he wouldn´t hurt one of them if the maia reacts to late. But unlike the Balrog they can drop their form and leave. Why is Lisselindë starting to glow red? It´s not that she starts to glow when she is angry but I´m wondering about the colour. I´m tempted to retort at her ranting about beeing older than Ea and having sung before the throne of Iluvatar that other Maia and Valar have done that also and it didn´t keep them from fucking things up. And that didn´t even take her own actions into account. Her good intetions of learning about the Eldar didn´t seem to last long. And she has a way to high opinion about herself and Maia in general that she throws a temper tantrum at the mere suggestion of beeing a thrall to someone she thinks of at a child and therefore inferior to herself. The next two weeks will shurely be interesting with Glorfindel teaching the Maiar about the Eldar. I wonder if Nienna´s house still stands afterwards. Wow, that was a really long review. And I just wanted to say that this is a great chapter and I can´t wait for the next.

Author's reply

The color red has always been associated with anger and if you've read my "Wars of the Valar" tale you will remember that in their natural state, the Valar and Maiar are spiritual beings with individual electro-magnetic signatures manifested as aurae. Lisselindë's normal aura is a ceertain shade of green but at this point its been 'muddied' by anger which manifests itself as red. Glorfindel is seeing that being manifested. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter and are looking forward to the next and the next and .... *grin* BTW, a word of caution -- you might wish to refrain from using the F-word on a family-friendly site. I have no objections to the word myself (I use it occasionally when the situation warrants) but I'm sure others might find it offensive. I'm sure you can find less offensive synonyms for the word if you try. *grin*

Sitara · 2 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

I must confess that, beyond my childish urge to congratulate Glorfindel for his words, I felt like I was witnessing how the most frightening legacy left to Aman by Melkor before fleeing for Middle-earth strikes again: twisted perception regarding the very nature of the Ainur, and ultimately the very nature of Iluvatar. Whatever reasons may Glorfindel have for his anger (and he does, I'm not denying it), it only seems to me that this is, more or less, the real issue. With all of them, not only with Glorfindel, of course. As for the "mystery of serving", I completely agree with you and your beta. But I understand Lisselinde too. After all, no one ever said that it's going to be an easy road to travel, to serve, and nowadays it's called The Cross, a very fitting name, I think. The Valar know that, you say. Yes, I have the best of reasons to agree once again with you. Sorry for ranting and I hope I didn't caused you a headache with my comments.

Author's reply

Well, there are lots of misperceptions about the Valar among the Elves, even those who live in Aman. It is part and parcel of Melkor's legacy that will not be erased before the Remaking. The problem, of course, is that since the Valar are a different order of being from the Elves, they don't necessarily act or react the same way, nor (as Olórin once told Netilmirë) do they always play by the same rules by which the Elves order their own lives. Therein lies the confusion of motives and the seeming uncaring of the Valar as perceived by the Elves. Only in retrospect do you see that in fact the Valar are not as heartless and uncaring as others may think. And I enjoy discussing such issues with my readers. It's what I think the function of the review is, more so than just letting the author know how much you enjoy their story. I believe that there should always be a dialogue between author and reader as they discuss what has been written and how it impacts on everyday living (or not). So they don't give me a headache at all. *grin*

Tari · 2 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

Whew! What an extraordinary chapter. The Maia thought they were having fun with Glorfindel, did they. They seem to have forgotten one thing; he is the Balrog slayer. It seems Lisselindë is not the only Maia who needs to learn a thing or two about the Elda. They may think they were just playing with Glorfindel, but I think he can hold his own with any of then. Of course Glorfindel has a lot to learn too. I wonder what the Valar are thinking about all this. "grins"

Author's reply

Hi, Tari. Glad you found this an extraordinary chatper. I'm sure that the three warrior Maiar were not 'just playing' with Glorfindel. They have too much respect for him and his abilities, which is why they enjoyed themselves and him. After all, they consider Glorfindel as a 'swordbrother' and treat him accordingly. Glorfindel may have been deadly serious, but in the end he didn't try to 'kill' any of them; he was simply working out his frustrations and the Maiar let him, while enjoying themselves at the same time.

Larner · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

Lisselinde does have a good deal to learn about the incarnates, but it appears Glorfindel has his share to learn about the Maiar as well. And it sounds as if the warrior Maiar had a good time even if Lisselinde didn't. Time for both her and Glorfindel to rid themselves of a good deal of resentment.

Author's reply

Hopefully they will both learn from each other and be the better for it.

Agape4Gondor · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

Well, I've read it again and am still impressed by that battle and what led up to it. I must, however, quibble with the idea that the Maiar were not 'trying' too hard - Glorfindel, if you recall, killed a Balrog - and a Balrog is a Maia.... That Balrog was not playing and had every intention of killing Glorfindel (which, of course, he did) - so I do not believe the Maiar were not totally challenged by Glorfindel and had to give as well as they got... it probably would take at least three to 'best' our beloved golden-haired Elf.... : ) IMHO.

Author's reply

I never said the Maiar weren't 'trying' too hard, and neither did they. They simply enjoyed the workout and considered it 'play'. That does not mean they weren't serious about it, for they were and would never insult Glorfindel by not giving their all. At the same time, they weren't out to destroy him either, so I'm sure they didn't exhibit all their powers or prowess, letting Glorfindel call the shots.

Agape4Gondor · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

I wept as I finished reading this............. I'm not even sure why. This was a spectacular chapter... absolutely your best, IMHO.... I can't find any words to say anything more - I'm blinking tears away - I think it is the beauty of the words and the fury of Glorfindel's actions - just took my breath away. And the beauty of Glorfindel's righteous anger - if that makes any sense. Phew - I've got to go back and read it again for there was way too much to take in at one go.................... *sits back and sighs heavily before she hits 'post'*

Author's reply

Thanks for the praise, Agape. *blushes* I wasn't sure how this chapter would go but when Glorfindel told everyone to stay where they were and called for his sword, I knew he would be giving us a show-stopping number, so to speak. *grin* And I know what you means about 'the beauty of Glorfindel's righteous anger'. I felt it as well as I was writing this.

Independence1776 · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

"Schedule? What schedule? Do you see a schedule lying about? Where do you think we are, in the High King’s court?" *innocent look* Why, yes, of course! "Just don’t make it too long. I’m only one Maia, you know." Oh, only one *Maia*. "'What about some of the warrior Maiar?' Lisselindë suggested." Very good suggestion. Maybe she's learning something already, though it's more likely brought about by her battle experiances. "'Me, a thrall?' the Maia responded, shocked to the core of her being at the thought of being anyone’s thrall, especially one of the Children. It was too ludicrous and she felt insulted that this... this ellon would even suggest it." Uh-oh. She definitely has problems relating to the Incarnates. They aren't better, just different. Furthermore, if an Incarnate was good enough for one of the Maiar to _marry_, she truly needs some lessoning. "'I’ve changed my mind,' he said, speaking in a dangerously low voice. 'I’m going to stay for the two weeks and show you what we Eldar are all about. Here’s your first lesson.'" Uh-oh. Both good and bad. Lisselindë has no idea what she has done now. "Glorfindel laughed at the surprised looks he got from Fionwë and Erunáro. Manveru merely grinned, and he was the first to engage the ellon while the other two Maiar stood to the side and watched." *laughs as well* Finally Glorfindel wil get a chance to exhert his skills. "Glorfindel held the point of his sword at Manveru’s throat, both of them dripping with seawater. For the longest time the only sound on the beach was the shu-shursh of the surf breaking on the shore and Glorfindel’s breathing." *grins* He beat one Maia. But that armor is going to be a pain to clean. "'We fought against your fallen brethren," he said, moving slowly towards her, 'against balrogs and werewolves, against Morgoth himself and Sauron. We fought and died while you all sat behind your precious mountains wringing your hands and bewailing the loss of the Trees and did nothing!' By now he was almost screaming. 'So, yes, you could do much worse than to be a thrall to Finrod for a year or three, child!'" Exactly what she needed to hear, though it's also telling that there's still a large amount of resentment towards the Valar on Glorfindel's part. "Nyéreser, Nasarindil, Lord Námo is expecting Lisselindë. He apparently has a few words of wisdom he wishes to impart to our sister." I would not want to be in her shoes now. "'But we were,' rejoined Erunáro with a laugh, which was echoed by the other two warriors as they faded from view." I figured they were giving Glorfindel just enough of a workout to challenge him, for I doubt that he could win against a Maia who wasn't holding back. But he truly needed that challege. One grammar quibble: "the three warrior Maiar who only just brought there own swords out in time" the there should be their. Quite an interesting first lesson!

Author's reply

Hi, Indy. Thanks for the typo alert. It's been corrected. I'm glad you enjoyed this chapter. An interesting first lesson indeed! And I'm with Pallando... I hope further lessons aren't as... exciting. *lol* Lisselindë does have much to learn, but I suspect Glorfindel needs to learn a few things as well. Hopefully, together they will both benefit from their time together. I'm sure many of the Reborn as well as Returnees still feel some resentment against the Valar for 'doing nothing' while they fought and died, keeping Morgoth occupied so he would be unable to go on a nihilistic spree and destroy all of Arda in the process. Of course, that perception is incorrect. The Valar were doing something, just not what the Noldor wanted them to do. Thanks for your comments. I always appreciate them.

Nieriel Raina · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

A very exciting chapter! Glorfindel does have a way of making a point, doesn't he?

Author's reply

Thanks, NiRi. You're right. Glorfindel does have a unique way of getting his point across. *grin*

Sitara · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

Well, for all my years and claims to be a very serious person, "wide grin", I suddenly felt an urge to sit up and clap my hands at Glorfindel' speech. Although I do know that was not necessarily all the truth and the appearancies could be veeery deceiving. As they are in this particular case and most likely Glorfindel would be the first to admit it, after he will calm down, that's it. "sigh" Glorfindel's anger got again the better of him, in my opinion, and the lesson received by the Maia could be only about how blind can be an angry Elda. As the Maiar didn't know that. "scowl" True enough, a Maia's purpose in life is to serve, their masters and the Children, and perhaps this was the lesson for Lisselinde, but Glorfindel's tantrum is not going to help her to understand it. At least, in my opinion. As I understand it, the Maiar simply humoured Glorfindel, adjusting their fighting skills to his', for I refuse to believe that the Maiar fought against our elfling with all their might. Especially Fionwe, who, if I'm not mistaken, would play a certain part during Dagor Dagorath. Yes, I AM obssessed, sorry. "smiling guiltly" But, again, they displayed a moving care and patience towards Glorfindel, helping him to finally find himself. I would never tire to say things like these. As for Lisselinde's reaction to Glorfindel proposal...it's not peculiar, in my opinion. After all, the Maiar existed ages long before the Children's awakening and I do understand that serving creatures with less abilities than yours can be sometimes hard to do. And now she's in for an interesting "conversation" with Lord Namo. Poor thing. Well, perhaps this little chat would enlighten me too. Thanks for an adrenalin-filled chapter, Fiondil.

Author's reply

Well, in this case, Sitara, Glorfindel's anger is somewhat justified, though the root cause of it will not be revealed until the next chapter. However, the warrior Maiar weren't 'humouring' Glorfindel at all. They were in full earnest and gave as good as they got, but unlike the Balrog against whom Glorfindel fought (and died), these Maiar aren't out to kill him, so they have tempered their abilities to Glorfindel's level of prowess or perhaps a shade higher so as to give him the challenge he obviously desired, taking on three Maiar at once. The concept of 'service' of course is at the heart of many of my Valar-verse stories. "He who is the greatest among you must be the servant of all," is a message that is still not heeded in today's world, especially in the political field. This is something that Lisselindë needs to learn. This is what the Valar already know. My beta refers to it as the 'mystery of service'. As to whether we ever get to 'listen in' on Námo's conversation with Lisselindë remains to be seen. *grin*

Sunny · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

Uh-oh. _Someone_ seems to have quite a superiority complex towards the Elves. Glorfindel’s suggestion that she be made Finrod’s thrall for a while is not meant to be an insult after all. Glorfindel’s reaction to Lisselindë’s tantrum is certainly something that springs from his own nature as a warrior. That fight must have been – in its own way – as exciting to watch as his fight against Finrod in the tourney. The difference is, he has _three_ opponents this time, and they are _Maiar_. And he won. And I don’t think it was because they _let_ him win either. So much for him being a “mere” mirroanwi. Lisselindë is about neck deep in s**t now and sinking fast. And she know it. Her summons to Námo in order for him to impart a “few words of wisdom” only underscores that. So Manveru, Erunáro and Fiowë were having fun, were they? While Glorfindel enjoys “playing” most of the time, I don’t think “fun” was on his mind today. While may he have _started out_ in a sunny mood practicing his archery, his mood _after_ his session with the three warrior Maiar was certainly quite stormy. And it all started out with an offer from Glorfindel to share in his fun …

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That's right, Sunny. Glorfindel actually was trying to be friends with Lisselindë but I think deep down, even though she knew she needed to learn about the Firstborn from a Firstborn, she resented that she'd been reduced to such a state, thus, resulting in Glorfindel's lesson. I'm sure Lisselindë wasn't the only Maia there who needed the lesson, which is why they were all there watching (most likely on Nienna's orders *grin*). We will see in the next chapter how the lesson affected Glorfindel as well. Thanks for the review. I appreciate it.

6336 · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

Ah ha! I think, finally Glorfindel is getting some where! He has released some of the anger he feels at the manipulation of the Valar! Way to go Glofi! As for Lissalinde, I think part of her problem is her arrogance and superior attitude, I'm a Maia and I know what is best for you, child! I hope her little talk with Namo is beneficial! Well Manwe's Maia enjoyed the fight if nothing else! Now it is up to Tiutalion to pick up the peices! More please, Lynda

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Lisselindë is indeed arrogant and that will be addressed in subsequent chapters. I'm sure Námo's little 'heart-to-heart' will go a long way towards teaching her humility. *grin*

ellie · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

This was weird. Twice in one week I heard this expression which I had never heard previously: "From your lips to Atar’s (God's) ears." So where did you first hear this expression? I liked the workout. It was obvious that Glorfindel was going at it full force, but the fact that the warrior maiar were only playing...Yikes! Loved this line: "Just don’t make it too long. I’m only one Maia, you know." hahaha yeah, right. only ONE MAIA. ahahahha great chapter!

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Hi, Ellie. So what planet are you from? I've heard the expression "From your lips to God's ears" all my life. I've even heard it in the movies and on TV shows, though I couldn't tell you exactly which ones now. You must hang out with the wrong crowd. *lol* Glad you liked the workout and the chapter. Thanks for letting me know.

Kitty · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

Admittedly I had no clear idea what these lessons might be like, but I most definitely had not expected one to be like that! In some ways Glorfindel is right - Lisselindë could learn a lot simply by following Finrod around, not only about Finrod himself, but about the elves in general. It doesn't need to be as a thrall, after all; something Lisselindë is not appreciating very much, as it seems *grin* Ha, that must have been a sight to behold, Glorfindel taking on three warrior Maiar all at once and fighting dirty, so to speak! Of course, it's true there are not many other swordfighters in Valinor to really challenge him. And even if the three Maiar might not have been fighting in earnest, I think he did very well. It's so true what he said to Lisselindë afterwards about the Firstborn having to fight Morgoth and his minions for so long, so that's no reason for her to feel superior because she has fought Morgoth earlier on, too. Now I wonder what Námo wants to talk about with Lisselindë and how Glorfindel is doing ...

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What you say about Lisselindë is true, Kitty. She has no cause to feel superior to Glorfindel or any of the Firstborn (or the Secondborn for that matter) by virtue of the fact that she's a Maia and Glorfindel is not. I'm not sure if we will actually see Námo's talk with Lisselindë, though we will certain see the effects of that talk eventually. The next chapter will focus on Glorfindel and the effects of the lesson him.

utfrog · 1 February 2009 · Chapter 42: The First Lesson

WOW I am trying to think of an inspired review, but I am still breathless from the impact of this chapter.

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Thanks, utfrog. I'm glad that this chapter left you too speechless to write a review. *lol* For me, as a writer, there's no higher praise. It means I did it right.

Larner · 27 January 2009 · Chapter 41: The Maiar Strike Back

Shall we say, "Beware of Valar bearing gifts and Maiar with thoughts of mischief"? Heh! What have they gotten themselves into, I wonder?

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I suppose you could say that, Larner. *grin* And I suspect they will all be asking that same question before Glorfindel is through with them. *heh!*

Independence1776 · 26 January 2009 · Chapter 41: The Maiar Strike Back

"'I think Lady Nienna would like you to,' the Maia said, choosing his words carefully. 'A week is hardly enough time in which to relax and I don’t think you’ve had as much time to think about things as you would like, have you?'" Nothing but the truth there! Very smart Maia. "'Perhaps not,' he admitted somewhat reluctantly. 'But to tell you the truth, I find thinking to be hard work. I’d rather be doing something instead.'" Yup, that's Glorfindel. But also he's trying to run and not think about what he's been through. "He grimaced at that, feeling somewhat insulted by the image the phrase evoked in him." Not terribly fond of the phrase either, but it fits. "For the moment, though, Nyéreser was concentrating on helping his fellow Maiar with Glorfindel who, truth to tell, intrigued the Maia very much." Are there *any* Maiar he doesn't intrigue? Smart of Pallando. (And won't he be one of the Blue Wizards?) "I... watched Glorfindel while he was in Lórien. Above all, he needs to feel needed. If... if he thinks that someone here needs him, perhaps...." Lisselindë is learning already- everyone needs to feel needed. "'I am glad that you are able to see your need, child,' she said to Lisselindë, 'and to see Glorfindel’s need as well. I think it just might work.'" I hope it does, for both their sakes! "Let our impossible ellon see that he has nothing on impossible Maiar." *laughs* After all, the Maiar have had far longer to practise. "I’m a Reborn, despised by half the population of Aman and apparently the bane of the Valar’s existence. Everything I knew and loved has been destroyed and I’m left picking up the pieces, but you don’t see me hiding in a corner, do you?" No, you aren't hiding, but aren't quite facing everything either. That whole conversation was heartrending. I think both of them were being far more honest than they had planned to be. But I am curious as to what Glorfindel's prank was that turned out so bad he spent a month in prison for it. "I did not mean to compare you to Morgoth. That was unforgivable of me." Not unforgivable, just difficult. "We never saw the Rebellion coming." *winces too* Much stems from that lack of foresight... "Then Lisselindë, feeling the time was right, set the trap. She reached out a tentative hand and placed it on Glorfindel’s arm to get his attention. 'Wo-would you teach me, lord?' she asked in all humility." Well, even with all the emotions running rampant, she didn't forget the plan. Two weeks certainly isn't long, especially for the Eldar. But will it be long enough? I wouldn't feel much like eating after that, either. "'Glorfindel will be good for Lisselindë,' Námo stated with a straight face. 'Just think of all the mischief the two of them can get themselves into, especially with Tiutalion there to goad them on.'" *eyes widen* If they thought Aldundil and Vorondil were bad, they ain't seen nothing yet. I have the feeling Atar will enjoy the hijinks as much as the Ainur.

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Hi, Indy. Yes, Pallando will someday become one of the Blue Wizards. For now, of course, he is Nienna's Chief Maia. When he leaves (apparently forever) his position will be taken over by Tiutalion (of course!). I think you are correct that both Elf and Maia were being far more honest than either one had planned to be. As for Glorfindel's prank that got him an exclusive tour of Turgon's prison (*grin*)... perhaps some day we'll find out just what it was and what went wrong. And while two weeks isn't all that long, it should be long enough... and who knows? Perhaps something will happen in the meantime that will force Glorfindel to stay even longer. *grin* I think you're right about Atar enjoying the show as much as the Ainur. He's probably setting up the popcorn machine even now. *lol*