Nieriel Raina
· 9 December 2007
· Chapter 142: Songs of Power and Glory
*begins to laugh* What an evil author you are, meldonya. Just absolutely and utterly EVIL! *continues to laugh* And yet, what a perfect ending to book one. Definitely wasn't expecting THAT! And since for the most part, I'm just speechless... I'll just sit here and laugh. Why? I don't know. The chapter was anything but funny, but it isn't that kind of laughter.
Bravo on Beleg the bard! Fabulous! I'm seriously impressed. You kept Tokien's feel all throughout beautifully! I'm a bit concerned that the Valar are a bit panicky, and I do wonder if Namo knows where the warriors went. The Flame... *smiles and shakes head* I just don't have the words, so I'm just going to stand and applaud.
*loud ovation, whistles, applause, and ... laughter*
NiRi
Author's reply
Well, I guess laughter is as legitimate response to this chapter as any other emotion. *grin* I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter, though, and I'm glad you think I kept Tolkien's feel throughout. High praise, indeed. Thank you.
I think Manwë's hair turned several shades of white when he realized what was happening... and I'm sure Námo isn't the only Vala who knows where the warriors went. *grin*
And the Flame... *smiles back*
Calenlass Greenleaf
· 9 December 2007
· Chapter 142: Songs of Power and Glory
*blinkblink*
What what in the name of Eru just happened?
But--that was certainly interesting way to end this tale. :)
~Cal
Author's reply
And there's more to come in Book Two. *grin*
Sidghedancer
· 9 December 2007
· Chapter 999999: Character List
Hi Fiondil,
All I can say is wonderful, marvelous, the best yet. I couldn't wait to get to the next chapters. I can't wait to start on Book Two. I am eager to see what those two are going to do next. I am glad vorondil has those who are grauding him and showing him love. He has had a hard enough time already without other elves telling him he is worthless. His Mother needs a good shaking. Thank you again for your wonderful stories, I can't wait to see where you go from here.
Nancy
Author's reply
Thanks, Nancy! I'm glad you've enjoyed this tale, and of course, it ain't over! *grin* Many of the plot strands that have been left hanging in this book will be resolved in the next book.
Nikara
· 9 December 2007
· Chapter 142: Songs of Power and Glory
Ahem... allow me to compose myself for my review. I think I'm ready now... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How could you do this to us!!!! Oh, the drama! Oh the action!! Finally, a climatic end to the first book of this story! This is truly an incredible ending. Why do I get the feeling that what we are learning about in the other story is going to be important... perhaps some dimension jumping? This is absolutely fascinating, and very well written. I can't wait for more. Don't leave us hanging on this cliffhanger too long, please!
Author's reply
Nah, nah, nah, nah-nah! *stickes out tongue* But I warned you! LOL And of course I just had to end it with the mother of all cliffies, didn't I? It's the only way of making sure people return for book two. *grin* And I think you can see how I am tying this story in with Wars of the Valar. The reasons for that will become clear eventually. I hope to start posting book two early in the New Year.
eiluj
· 9 December 2007
· Chapter 142: Songs of Power and Glory
Ooookay ... *that* was a surprise.
I guess we’d have to say Glorfindel won -- or at least, that Finrod *didn’t* win. (And a good thing, too, since I’m reading it that Glorfindel’s song was more defensive than offensive?) The only question is *how* they got plunked down where they are (which looks suspiciously like the tenth dimension). No ... there’s no question how they got there ... after all, how *else* could they get there?
Sorry, but now that I think of it, this doesn’t qualify as the Evil Cliffie to End All Evil Cliffies. *That* was the last sentence of Patricia McKillip’s “The Riddle-Master of Hed” when I had to wait *twelve* *interminable* (and highly memorable, even after 31 years) *months* for the next book to be published. I’m considerably more confident about Glorfindel’s and Finrod’s current safety and well-being than I was about poor Morgon’s immediate fate at the end of “Riddle-Master.” But I can’t think of any equivalent Evil Cliffie in fanfic, so I’ll let you have the Evil Cliffie to End All Evil *Fanfic* Cliffies.
[Psst: if you *really* want the Ultimate All-Time Evil Cliffie Champion title, all you have to do is delete the scene in the tenth dimension, leaving us in Vanyamar with nothing but missing elves and melted swords -- and it’s yours.]
“I just need to remember to be careful what I wish for from now on." -- Snicker.
Lord Námo was suddenly there, looking grimmer than any of them had ever seen him -- *Ever.* That’s grim, all right.
The poetry was very effective.
"We cannot stop it now," he said. "It has gone too far beyond our powers to do so without endangering their lives or the lives of everyone else" -- Interesting that their songs could be so strong ... but then, Finrod held his own against Sauron for quite a while.
Melted swords: oh, *that’ll* give everyone confidence....
And Finrod and Glorfindel will argue for the rest of the history of Arda over who would have won. And no one will ever dare let them have a rematch.
Author's reply
Ha! Gotcha! *grin*
I needed the final scene at the end of the chapter because of how the first chapter of the next book will be written. So, even though it lessens the impact of the cliffie, it was necessary to have it here rather than in the next book. I remember the cliffie at the end of "RiddleMaster of Hed"-- very bad! I'm not that evil.
Anyway, I'm glad you found the poetry effective. I wasn't sure at first but I just felt it needed to be there and I enjoyed adapting Canto VII describing Finrod and Sauron's Battle of Songs of Power to this tale.
As to where Finrod and Glorfindel end up and how they got there... all that will be explained in the next book, I promise.
Kitty
· 9 December 2007
· Chapter 142: Songs of Power and Glory
Oh well, so no one won the fight, or both of them, as probably most of us wanted. That was no surprise. But the rest was. I had never expected Finrod to use a Song of Power to fight, and even less Glorfindel to respond in kind. And obviously even the Valar were caught completely off guard. Now I am imagining what the spectators may say and think ...
What leaves me worried about the consequences. Will the Amanians now think all Reborn are dangerous? And what exactly happened to Finrod and Glorfindel? Somehow I get a feeling Iluvatar himself may have taken action? Hmmm ... I think Eiluj was not far from the mark: The Evil Cliffie to end all Evil Cliffies ... May I hope you will be able to start posting book two soon? For I am truly anxious what will happen now. There was no attack of the bad guys as I had feared (well, at least not until now), but I am not sure *this* is better, as it is even more unpredictable.
Anyway, I loved Beleg’s lay, and of course I was amused that Ingwë so suddenly changed his mind about seeing Glorfindel truly fight. And considering the outcome, he was right, wasn’t he?
Thank you for a wonderful story – even if it is leaving me dangling from a very high cliff! ;-)
Author's reply
Book Two won't be posted for some time, but I won't keep people waiting for years like some writers do. I plan to start posting the next book early in the New Year or by Spring at the latest.
I'm glad you liked Beleg's lay. I wasn't sure it would work but I think it helps to heighten the suspense of the chapter.
Thanks for being such a faithful reviewer.
Radbooks
· 9 December 2007
· Chapter 142: Songs of Power and Glory
Oh, that was a great chapter and a horrible cliff-hanger just as you promised. :) Ingwe was right in that he shouldn't have been wishing for Glorfindel to stop 'playing' and actually fight because look what happened! *grin*
I have a feeling I know where they are because of The Wars of the Valar, but I'm not sure if they would be allowed there even in that sort of horrible situation they were in. But then Ilúvatar can do what he wants, can't he? :)
I can't wait for the next book, even as I know it will be a few months until that happens. At least I have your other stories to tide me over.
Thanks for writing such a wonderful story and sharing it!
Author's reply
Hi Radbooks! Glad you so enjoyed this tale and are looking for the next book. I"m sure there were many people in the stands with the same sentiment about Glorfindel as Ingwé. *grin* I had a great time writing this story and entertaining so many people. I look forward to writing the next book, though I need to concentrate on the other two stories for a bit. I've neglected them something awful.
Hi Fiondil! On holiday for a week and no internet connection! The horror...
Anyway, because of your great and detailed description of what goes on after death in Middle Earth, where do the souls of elves mutated into orcs in the First Age go if they are killed? And what happened to them? Sorry for the endless questions, all these were the cause of my brother's nagging.Blame him!
Author's reply
Hi Sprite! No internet connection for a week... doesn't really bear thinking on. LOL
As for your question, several other people wonder the same thing. Perhasp someday there will be an answer, but I can't promise anything.
Calm before the storm - well, I'm not very calm now nad won't be till the next chapter! This one belonged to the Valar and Maiar - they were great. And fathers, too. Three cheers for Amarië's father and a big hug for Aldundil.
I wonder if more memories will surface, or someone will interfere... Just this match of Finrod and Glorfindel is exciting enough, what will make it even more exciting? Balrog in the stands? Muddy elflings running everywhere? Angry elves who lost their bets? Happy elves who won their bets? Can't wait!
Author's reply
Hi Hanci! Yes, this was definitely a chapter for the Valar and Maiar, and adars. *grin* As for what will happen in the afternoon match... we'll all find out soon enough.
A quick note to let you know how much I enjoyed the chapter - it certainly heightened my anticipation for the next one. :) I'm not feeling well so I can't go into lots of details here except to say that it was very good.
Also, loved reading a new chapter of Wars of the Valar - glad to see Namo is starting to heal.
Author's reply
Thanks, Radbooks. I appreciate you taking the time to drop me a note to tell me how much you enjoy the chapter. Hope you feel better soon.
Caddy de La Bris
· 4 December 2007
· Chapter 141: iQuild' epë iRaumo
Dear Fiondil,
Please note that I have to apologise for being a real silent reader and for my bad English (because English is not my first language).
This is my first review to your real great story and I wanted to let you know how you brightend my real life whenever I saw and read an update.
I have to admit that I am a late reader of The Silmarillion - first I read Lord Of The Rings, then I tried The Hobbit (but I stopped) and then I tried The Silmarillion (but I stopped too).
Since 1977 I read The Lord Of The Ring almost every year but I could not read the other books.
After reading The Lord Of The Ring so often and after the films and after the discovery of fanfiction (in my late year:-)) I noticed in real that there is and was far more than only The Lord Of The Rings - especially far more to Glorfindel as my favourite elf although he is only a minor character in Lord Of The Rings.
So I searcherd for stories about him and I found your story - unfortunately before I read The Silmarillion. And first I lost my interest.
But then I found more and more stories about the first and the second age and I tried again to read The Silmarillion. And I read it and then I heard it through a German audio book and than I read it again.
And at last at this time I realised howe fitting your story is. Now I am reading The Silmarillion the fourth time - after hearing the audio book every time possible.
And please note how enjoyable and thrilling it is every time I see an update - especially now that there are my three most favourite elves involved: naturally Glorfindel, then Finrod and at last Beleg.
So I want to thank you for your wonderful story - one of my most favourites - and I hope there will be the next one very soon - although - there are still two more stories of you which I will have the pleasure to read. Unfortunately I am one of the readers which try to make sure to read only completed stories - because there is (almost) nothing more disappointing than good forsaken stories.
At last let me say thank you for sharing your imagination of your stories and I hope you will update soon - because I am going on holiday on Friday and I hope for an update before.
Caddy from Germany
Author's reply
Dear Caddy,
Thank you for your wonderful review and your English was just fine. *grin* I know how difficult the Silmarillion is for many people. It isn't written in the same vein as the Lord of the Rings and modern readers are not used to that particular style of writing. Being an Enlgish major at university and being a lover of history I had a great deal of exposure to that style of writing so it never really bothered me, but I know that is not true for everyone.
I am glad though that you have found my own story enjoyable and perhaps having read my story you will find the Silmarillion more interesting. I know a number of my readers have thanked me for sparking an interest in the Silmarillion they never had before because they read this story.
You can go ahead and read my other stories because I have no intention of forsaking them. In fact, I've just updated both of them this week with new chapters and I will be updating Stirrings of Shadow again before the end of the week. I have every intention of finishing these stories as well as continuing with Elf, Interrupted.
Unfortunately I will probably not be updating until Saturday or Sunday, but at least you have the comfort of knowing that when you return from your holiday, the new chapter will be waiting for you. *grin*
Oh, meldonya, I am on the edge of my seat with anticipation! Have you ever thought about writing teasers for television shows?
Just joking, honest! However, you certainly gave us a lot to think about in this chapter.
I would have never thought about Oromë being someone who would have the same addiction to sweets like berry pies as an elfling. That's not to say that he wouldn't but that it had never occurred to me before. The picnic scene really set up the theme of the Valar and Maiar as foster parents to the elves. And while I had an instinctual understanding of why Oromë would adopt Beleg from the moment Beleg showed up re-embodied, I must admit that the reasons behind him adopting Sador still escape me. I suppose that it something that is meant to be merely accepted. Oromë has his reasons as does Vána and neither are required to explain everything after all.
I liked seeing the Maiar's responses to the various people wanting to see Finrod and Glorfindel and being prevented. I've liked Manveru since was first introduced but he is wonderful in this chapter. I can understand his amusement at the mercurial (in his opinion anyway) behavior of the Eldar (particularly Arafinwë). I couldn't help laughing as I read that section. Though the idea of Lord Manwë coming down on him like a Valarauco in a bad mood is quite a mental image and not funny at all. I'm sure that Manwë overheard that little thought... You realize that I'm going to have that in my head for the rest of the day, don't you?
I can certainly understand Alassiel feeling put upon and if I didn't love and appreciate the wonderful, thoughtful elf Finrod is already, I certainly would now. With everything going on and the upcoming bout on his mind as well as the emotional and psychological effects of dealing with Vorondil's situation, the other elfling's parents and everything else, it wouldn't have been unreasonable for him to let her situation slip his mind. But he didn't, bless him.
The Leaping Frog...hmmm...I suppose it will make you laugh to know that when I think of the group of ellyn, ellith and elflings eating there, I imagine the corner "booth" of Fado where we ate supper after visiting the zoo last summer.
My humor vanished in an instant when the elves accosted Vorondil and Aldundil. If I could have transported myself to the spot there would have been some hurting Vanyarin and Noldor! I was relieved and very pleased to see Tiutalion come to the rescue. Well, I have loved that particular Maiar since he showed up when Ingwion went to Nienna's house and here he is no less kind and supportive to his charges. If anyone needed any proof that Vorondil is indeed still an elfling they'd have it in his: "Wh-why do they all hate me?" he whispered forlornly. "I... I said I was sorry." I just wanted to hug him when he said that. I hope that we eventually see more of this particular Maia.
Oh, Nienna you are definitely your brothers' sister! I laughed out loud at her subterfuge with the mirror. Well, I don't blame her at all. I'd probably do the same thing with two examples of handsome Eldar manhood on display [evil grin].
Oh, I could just wring Amarië's mother's neck. I really could. Now, her father sounds like someone I could deal with (any father that would supply the rope to help his daughter get out of durance vile to see her true love is more than OK in my book). Well, at least she'll be able to see the final bout and hopefully get some time with her betrothed (and no, I haven't forgotten about that story I'm working on, honest. The muse is just on holiday in a different fic-verse at the moment).
Like everyone at the tournament I am holding my breath in anticipation to see who wins. I am making no bets and no predictions at all on which of the two ellyn will win. In fact, I am not rooting for anyone in particular. I just want them to leave the lists unscathed and without the equivalent of World War III breaking out.
Did you ever think that this story would grow into the masterwork it is? It has been wonderful being able to read it and get to know your version of Aman, the Valar and Maiar as well as explore the social and personal effects of death and rebirth among the Eldar. I am looking forward to the continuation of Glorfindel and Finrod's adventures in the sequel (as well as finding out how Sador, Vorondil, Alassiel, Ingwion and the other characters I've come to care about) when you are ready to tell us that tale.
Hugs!
Edlyn
Author's reply
What a nice loooong review! It has certainly made my day! *grin*
The reasons for Oromë's interest in Sador will become clear in the next book, i think. At any rate, the relationship between Beleg and Sador on many levels will, I think prove important in the future.
I had fun writing the scene with the Maiar from their perspective, showing how they see the Eldar amongst them. I think we get a sense that as annoying as the Eldar might be at times, the Maiar truly love and care for them. The Valarauco in a bad mood image I thought very funny... as when is a Valarauco ever NOT in a bad mood? *grin* And I'm sure Manwë was quite aware of what Manveru was thinking and why and found it very amusing himself.
I like the image of Fado and our dinner together because I think that's just what it was like with the elflings, only more so. *grin*
The confrontation with Vorondil and Aldundil is sad on many levels and I feel the most for Aldundil because he's as much caught in the web of his wife's deceit as their son and he knows that he's partly to blame for the situation. Tiutalion showing up was vala-sent in more than one way. I was afraid things would get ugly there for a moment myself.
And Nienna is indeed her brothers' sister. *grin* I'm sure Námo and Irmo got quite a kick out her subterfuge and I loved her "Can I turn around now?". Definitely not the Weeping Wilma the Silmarillion makes her out to be.
And no, I never thought tis story would become an epic. *grin* And I won't be keeping people too long on tenderhooks waiting for the continuation, though it'll be a few months before I'm ready to post. Thanks for the review. I really appreciate it.
So Sador and Beleg are increasingly having more in common: Sindar Reborn; Doriathrim; Finrod’s and Glorfindel’s gwedyr; sharing a connection from Doriath (through Sador’s grandfather); and both apparently adopted by Oromë and Vána.
She was supposed to be her cousin’s squire but so far she had done no squiring at all -- The final line in all our job descriptions was *always* “And other duties as assigned.” [And I wonder just what percentage of my work time was spent doing tasks that fell into that category.]
Yes, by all means let Alassiel go shopping! Even if she’s not normally fond of shopping, what chance has the poor kid had to do *any* shopping in Lórien all those months? (And who’s going to look after the elflings when they go *back* to Lórien?)
"Death is the usual punishment," he declared -- But have they ever actually executed anyone? Or even needed to hold a trial before Vorondil’s?
It’s always enjoyable to see the helpful Tiutalion.
Reminiscing about earlier times when the Eldar had first arrived in Aman, all innocent and wide-eyed with wonder -- Wonderfully evocative: I can just see them! (The Two Trees! The Valar's Mansions! The Sea! All the Valar and Maiar! Taniquetil!)
None of them, not even the Valar, could have predicted just how exciting -- Now, why do I get the feeling that you’re going to leave us at the end of this story with the Evil Cliffie to End All Evil Cliffies?
I was really expecting some sort of attack before the tournament ends and everyone goes home (though holding no illusions about my success rate in these matters). At the moment, I’m sure you aren’t going to do it -- the only possibilities would be leaving us at the end of the next chapter either: 1) with the aforementioned Evil Cliffie to End All Evil Cliffies; or 2) with a nice happy ending for this story (wonderfully exciting match, Glorfindel wins, kings congratulate, Glorfindel does happy dance, period, The End) -- but planning to spring the Bad Guys on us in the first paragraph of the next story. One more chapter ... that’s not much time to handle the final round *and* anything else: so no matter what you’re going to do, I guess I’m expecting *some* sort of Evil Cliffie (with or without Bad Guys).
My Unified Field Theory of Bad Guys At the Tournament (very short version) involved Súlimondil and/or Valancar panicking (perhaps after the announcement of a pending trial of their own, fearing Lindorillë’s father’s testimony?), grabbing a guard’s weapon when everyone was distracted by *whatever* (originally the revelation of Beleg’s identity), and Glorfindel-and/or-Finrod being Impressively Heroick.
Author's reply
At last, someone who doesn't mind Alassiel going shopping. LOL And you're correct, she hasn't had much chance to do the things she is normally used to doing as a member of Ingwë's extended family and a lady of consequence, so just being able to stroll through the streets of Vanyamar with another elleth and window-shop would be enough to lift her spirits and help her feel less put upon.
As for all your theories about how this will end... I rather like the Evil Cliffie to End All Evil Cliffies myself. *grin* You, of course, will have to decide for yourself.
I'm so glad that the Valier have received there chances to be in the spotlight. I loved how clever Nienna was when Findarato and Glorfindel were undressing. I can just imagine their response to this if they ever find out.
Alassiel finally is given her chance too. I always wondered when she would get angry at her cousin because she's always having to 'play' nanny when she's supposed to be his squire. It's good that she's given her chance to have fun.
Thanks for writing!
Alquawende
Author's reply
Yes, Nienna is being very naughty here, but in a harmless way, and don't we all wish we could have joined her in front of that particular mirror. LOL
Alassiel doesn't realize it but she's getting practice for when she gets to play "auntie" to Finrod and Amarië's future children. *grin* The experience of herding these five elflings about will stand her in good stead someday. Perhaps Finrod had some foresight of this and decided to give his squire this task for that very reason. It is good though that he is aware of her rising resentment and feelings of neglect to be the one to suggest the outing to Manwen and Laurendil. It shows that he's not as clueless an ellon as the ellith would all like to think he is. *grin*
This was just lovely. Thanks for including Amarie finally! I was wondering why she wasn't there. I'm so glad that Vorondil and the elflings are close still. Thanks for updating!
Author's reply
Glad you liked this chapter Nariel. I'm sure other readers had wondered what had happened to Amarië after the New Year's Ball. And the elflings don't care or even understand about how Vorondil's history and though they understand he did something wrong and is being punished, that is no reason to shun him. After all, they've all done something wrong and they've all been punished, so Vorondil is not unique in their eyes. If anything, that just makes him more "one of us" than before. The adults around them could do worse than follow those elflings example of forgiveness and friendship.
It’s good to see how many of the Valar are taking care of our Reborn. And it gives a good impression of the Valar themselves, too. Not to mention the Maiar – I’m still grinning about what Manveru thought when he wanted to use his sword.
Yea, what would our lives be like without someone like Glorfindel to brighten our days Rather boring, I suspect ;-)
As for shopping, here I have to agree with NiRi. The only one shops save the grocery I’m entering without absolute, unavoidable need are book shops!
Oh, poor Vorondil. He doesn’t deserve what he’s going through now, as nothing of it is his own fault. I am glad Tiutalion turned up when he did and prevented him from harm – at least bodily harm.
Have to agree with Námo – Nienna *is* naughty. Maybe he should have cast a spell on the mirror instead of on the poor ellyn to prevent her from spying on them! *grin*
Hm ... I am a bit surprised about Almáriel – she’s treating her daughter like an elfling, though Amarië is certainly too old for that. Why do I doubt Finrod will be happy when he learns about that? Though I can *so* see Amarië climbing out of the window, and with the help of her father, too! Glad Castamir put a stop to this in time.
And now you managed to leave me on the edge *again*! The last sentence is rather worrying, as is the translation of the chapter title. As I said before, I always had the feeling something would happen with the bad guys, and now I fear the worst. They’re stupid enough to try something even right under the nose of the Valar. Nasty cliffhanger! More soon, please? You surely don’t want me to die from curiosity and suspense, do you?
Author's reply
Just because you don't like to shop (I don't either, unless, like you, it's a bookstore), doesn't mean that Alassiel doesn't like to shop and how do you know that Manwen didn't take her to a smithy to order a new set of greaves for herself? *grin* There's shopping and there's shopping.
Hopefully once Vorondil is at Nienna's she and her People will be able to help him to recover his self-esteem and give him a sense of worthiness that is now lacking. And Aldundil can do with some healing as well.
Nienna is indeed naughty, but I don't think her brothers would be able to put a glamour on her being a fellow Vala. Easier to do it on the unsuspecting ellyn. *grin*
What can I say? Almáriel is a control freak and has always resented the fact that her daughter would not return to Vanyamar after Finrod left.
Well, as for the last chapter... you'll find out just how worried you should be.
Naughty Nienna! *giggle* I enjoyed this chapter because it tied up some loose ends I was wondering about. Great writing. Now I can't wait for the next chapter.
Author's reply
Naughty Nienna, indeed! *grin* Glad you liked the chapter. I felt it necessary to give everyone (including me) a breather and tie up a few loose ends before the final confrontation between Finrod and Glorfindel. Next chapter will be posted this weekend.
I can’t stay up all night to review this, so you’ll get one review now and one later (poor you!). And this one is another of those weird topics that nobody but me will be commenting on....
“Vairë was most pleased when she saw that they had invented looms all on their own, crude though they were.” -- Because of “Wars of the Valar,” I’ve wondered just *when* Vairë took up fiber arts. And if I haven’t said so in a review for that story, it’s interesting that Acairis (popularly assumed to be Ungoliant) began as one of *Vairë’s* Mayar -- because of the fiber arts connection (even if neither Vairë nor Ungoliant did any spinning or weaving until considerably later).
And that leads to another interesting thought (I don’t know if JRRT ever said anything about it or not). Morgoth and his pals were harassing, kidnapping, and presumably also *killing* elves long before Oromë showed up at Cuiviénen and Officially discovered the Firstborn. [Because after all, it’s impossible to imagine Morgoth *not* killing elves from the moment he first got the chance. *shudder*] So that would mean that traumatized elven fëar would have been showing up in Mandos *before* Oromë had Officially given the other Valar the news that the Firstborn had in fact been born.
Well, okay, Námo’s a sly one. I’ll just assume he was waiting for Oromë’s discovery before telling the other Valar. But what a horrible way to find out the Firstborn had appeared!
And meanwhile Vairë had begun weaving.
Author's reply
Obviously, there is no need for fiber arts a this point in Wars of the Valar, though once Arda is created and the Valar settle in, she will begin to develop that skill. I think at the moment, she is busy "weaving" her love of Eä and Atar and Námo into the "fabric" of the universe, "knitting" the structures together into a coherent whole.
As for the whole thing about what Námo knew... eventually that, too, will be shown.
It is nice to see Beleg and Sador doing a bit of bonding in the company of Orome and Vana.
--Sador and Beleg grinned and held out their plates but Oromë got there first with his own plate, laughing at his beloved’s look of exasperation as she dished him out a slice. --
LOL! I really enjoy Oromë and Vana.
--The Maia resisted a sigh, really wishing that he could just take his sword and... well, that wouldn’t really solve anything, though it might make him feel better... for about ten seconds, just before Lord Manwë came down on him like a Valarauco in a bad mood.--
LMAO! I really like these two brothers! They are just delightful.
It's funny really, men seem to think that a shopping trip is the key to brightening a woman's day. Say shopping to me and you will see me run screaming in the opposite direction, probably with a fishing pole. *grin* I'm glad it made Alassiel's day however. A lady's day out. How quaint.
Wow, I just love these Maiar that continually show up. Your characterizations of them all are so unique, they are very much individuals. Tiutalion is growing on me too. *grin* I wasn't overly fond of him to begin with, but seeing him in this role was rather nice.
*sighs* I had so hoped Vorondil and Aldundil would have some peace but should have known that wouldn't happen before they get to Nienna's. I fear the ramnifications of this and the end of the tournament. I have a really bad bad feeling that it will not be a normal fight, but may be interrupted. I am glad Tiutalion was there to help and Finrod was wise enough to ask for protection for the ellyn. (Ha! I almost wrote ellons. *snickers*)
Okay, is there any chapter in this story without someone naked? LOL! Nienna was just too funny for words. Of course, the Valar see the body itself as clothing so it's a bit different. (though I wouldn't mind being near that mirror... *grin*) This makes me wonder though if the Elves first contact with Oromë was with a naked Vala? *straight face* And the Feanturi feed them and send them to bed like good elflings so they can play in the afternoon. Awwwww. *grin* I have no doubt they needed it. And the Valar's running dialogue behind the scenes was charming. It is nice to get more of the big picture in this manner.
I have wondered where Amarië has been. LOL! How can such a nice person have such a mean spirited mother? Ah yes, DADS! They come in handy.
Now, mellon nin, I am really wondering if I will have ANY nails left after the next chapter. The Calm before the Storm doesn't sound good at ALL! EEK! I am both dreading and anticipating what is to come and knowing you will enjoy every moment of our suspense and cries of protest. *grin*
Great chapter.
NiRi
Author's reply
Ah, a long review! I just love them *grin*
Well, I didn't specify *what* kind of shopping these two did. They may well have ended up at the smithy or the leatherworks looking at swords or gambesons or whatever instead of laces and ribbons and pretty shiny things. *LOL* And don't forget the culture in which these people live... shopping was something that did not occur everyday, except perhaps for food. Alassiel has also been cooped up in the encampment all week minding the elflings. A little "girl-time" is what she needs right now and Finrod recognizes that, canny ellon that he is.
Oromë and Vána are becoming more real for me as well and are fun to write.
As for how Oromë appeared to the elves the first time... we'll probably see that in Wars but not for some time. Gotta create Arda first. *LOL*
And the final chapter is coming up soon and then you'll know if you will have any nails left to bite after that. *grin* Thanks for the review... did I tell you I just LOVE long reviews? *grin*
Nieriel Raina
· 2 December 2007
· Chapter 139: Day of Reckoning
Okay, long review. *grin* I find Beleg's shyness sweet, but I do look forward to him also finding himself again. And I don't blame him for sleeping outside! I would if I could, too.
Námo and Irmo meeting Finrod and Glorfindel in the tent was a very nice touch. And I again, I want to raid their closets. *smile* I love your descriptions of their clothing. So few authors take the time to paint such an image of their characters, and you do it well without overdoing. Again we are shown how the Valar do not know everything, and I wonder about so many Reborn being released early and even Námo not knowing all the repercussions. The Feanturi braiding Finrod's and Glorfindel's hair was a nice touch.
What I really enjoyed was this talk the Feanturi gave the competitors. It matters and yet it doesn't. Almost elvish. "Do not go to the elves..." *grin*
--Námo gave Finrod a piercing look. "You, best beloved, left because of your love for Turgon.--
I know the Silm says that Fingolfin and Finarfin's children were close, but for some reason I see Glorfindel as being so closely tied to Turgon that this made me stop and remember that Finrod and Turgon were cousins. And I haven't forgotten you still haven't revealed Glorfindel's parentage. Will you ever? For a moment I worried the talk about Túrin might trigger some memory with Beleg or agitate him. I'm glad it didn't. And of course, you leave off with this conversation by reminding us there shall be much more to come before the REborn are truly reintegrated into Amanian society.
*smiles* I always smile now when Eonwe shows up. Funny thing is he doesn't really do much, yet I am fascinated by him. Which is a reflection of how well you have handled his characterization. And I'm glad Námo acknowledged that the comraderie between the fighters is progress!
--"I don’t share," he said, sticking his tongue out at them. "It’s all mine... whatever it is," he added with a hesitant shrug, suddenly realizing he had no idea what the archery prize was. --
LOL! Beleg is quite a the character too!
The betting disturbed me and I can't help but think that will only cause further problems. These aren't the friendly bets of the Valar amongst one another. These bets have an unsettling feel to them.
I really liked how you showed the spectator side of things through several eyes. It was done so that I was not wishing to get back to the fight, but genuinely interested in what was happening in the stands. Alassiel's divided loyalty was understandable.
And now we begin to see Finrod really fight, eh? *grin* I had no doubt he would also rise to the challenge and things would become much more intense! Ingwion's thoughts during the battle and his 'conversation' with the Eldar King was enlightening and I find Ingwion who when we first met him seemed such a cut and dry character, is actually very layered and complex. Nicely done!
I already told you I wasn't surprised at all about Finrod winning the first match. *grin* Loved Veryandur's response too! He is such a sweet elfling.
Now I'm on pins and needles wanting to know the outcome of the next fight...
Wonderful chapter, Fiondil! As always I want more.
NiRi
Beruthiels Cat
· 29 November 2007
· Chapter 33: Connecting the Dots
Hi Fiondil!
I'm going back (yet again) to pick up tidbits from the past...as another reviewer wrote, I don't retain as well as I used to, lol... In this instance, pertaining to your answer to a reviewer of this same chapter, speculation about Turgon's reawakening for his own judgment. Any further inspiration since this was written?
Also glad to hear of your own thoughts regarding faith...and having written accordingly. I'm also Christian, and love the way you've woven your worldview into the story. Living in China must be quite the experience in that regard? All we know about China is what we hear in the news, most recently to do with the limitation of Bibles into the Olympics. I had to wonder if the possibility of smuggling was that great a concern? Would love to have your thoughts on this in a PM if you have time...
Cat
Author's reply
Hi Cat, so how many times does this make it? *grin* and just as we're wrapping up this particular arc of the story. I do want to write about Turgon's judgment but haven't quite found the right vehicle for it. Hopefully, my muse will cooperate on that soon.
Living in China, I really don't hear any such news and don't really pay attention to it. I brought my Bible with me with no problems (they never bothered to check my bags). Using the Olympics to smuggle in Bibles for the purpose of giving them to the Chinese I think is a different thing altogether and I don't want to get into it here on this forum. Feel free to PM me anytime and we can chat about it. I personally prefer talking about the religious motifs and such that Tolkien incorporates into his stories and essays on Middle-earth and how I have done the same in my stories and why. That, to me, is a more interesting topic of conversation.
Anyway, enjoy the re-read. That so many people tell me that they re-read this story not just once but several times is a hugh compliment and very gratifying for me as a writer. It means I'm doing something right. *grin*
Kitty
· 28 November 2007
· Chapter 140: Tournament List
Thanks for the list - it's so much more orderly than mine :)
Author's reply
No problem. I figured people would want to see how it was all set out as to make sense. It was the only way I could keep track of events myself.
Kitty
· 28 November 2007
· Chapter 139: Day of Reckoning
Glad to see how understanding Olwë is; I’m sure he will get along with Beleg quite well.
Lovely idea to have the Valar waiting for them in the tent and to help them dress and braiding their hair. They had an interesting conversation, though I have to admit it stirred up my feelings again that we’ve not seen the end of the bad guys and their schemes yet; I was waiting for something to happen since the tournament started. Alone these baddies would ensure so many more chapters, not to mention our trio itself and their friends, elflings and so on ;-)
And maybe we then get more to see of Eönwë; have grown to love him during the tournament.
Another lovely part was the silent exchange between Manwë and Ingwion. The latter has come a long way in these last few months, even if the Elder King is not completely satisfied yet.
Ha, it was to be expected that Glorfindel would lose this fight. Now we get to see another one! :-) And I think Ingwë was happy to *finally* see him truly fight, and Finrod as well *grin*
Though I have for once to agree with Lindorillë: Even if I think Glorfindel may need the victory a bit more than Finrod, I don’t want Finrod to lose the fight, either. Somehow it would be satisfying if both could win.
As for the match, that was simply great! To have these two fight each other, both seasoned during the wars of Beleriand and exceptional fighters ... what a sight to behold! And we got another round! *sighs dreamily*
Author's reply
I'm sure Olwë and Beleg will get along just fine, once the ellon gets used to the idea. *grin*
The whole arming scene with the discussion by Irmo and Námo was something of a surprise for me, as it wasn't something I'd planned for this chapter, but the Valar had other ideas, and who am I to argue with a Vala, never mind two? LOL
I have no doubt that the bad guys will show up eventually, though under what circumstances remains to be seen.
Of course Glorfindel had to lose the first match. What's the fun otherwise? But as to who will win the final match and therefore the tournament remains to be seen. And I think Lindorillë expresses how we all feel about it: I too would like to see them both win.