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Elentari · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

This chapter was so bittersweet it was heaven. I am glad of this new perspective on Sólith, that nearly made me forget everything mean he's done. So yes, he's still a jerk. Now I am sure he's not completely heartless though. Celuwen giggles! what did you think, Eilian, she'd have a philosophical debate on water temperature or the effects of nuzzling on her neck! she's an elf-woman, you adorable prat! She's not made of ice. You should know that by now... Anxious to know what happened at the settlement. And also about Thranduil.

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Solith loves his daughter, although I still wouldn't want him for a father-in-law. I sadly confess he's a little like my own father, God rest his soul. He was somewhat hard to live with, despite his love for us all. I enjoyed writing about Celuwen's reactions to Eilian. I think he needs to feel loved and doesn't always. I think that's why he valued his little brother's adoration so highly.

Lera · 9 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Wow, ok, the next chapter had better be titled "Eilien's Adar" because I am dying for his reaction. Isiwen was a gift sent from heaven. Unfortunately for Eilien, Thranduil doesn't have a wife to balence him out. Lorrelin I wish you were here for Eilien's sake. But oh, gosh this next chapter will be one worth reading I am sure! Although it just occurred to me you still need to get Legolas off that flet, so...*biting fingernails*, I'll be happy with whoever we see in the next update! As much as Solith irritates me, I was struck by his love for his daughter in this chapter. Usually I just think: ooh, he kept Eilien's letters from her, meanie! or whatever he's doing makes me mad, but in this chapter I actually felt a little sorry for him. In spite of his faults(and he's got a lot) he does deeply care about Celuwen. I'd been wondering where Celuwen would live when the two of them got married, since Eilien would return to his patrol. I was a little shocked that he just announced she was coming back to the palace without consulting her first. It's an incredible thing, how married elves are connected to each other in their minds. Celuwen is definitely smart enough that she would have thought about how Thranduil would react. I don't think even Gandalf will be able to match the fireworks come morning. I believe Legolas will be quite happy to return to the peace and safety of the Southern Patrol!

Author's reply

I'm so sorry because I have to get Legolas off the flet before I go on to Thranduil. I have notes on it, if that's any comfort to you. Shall I hold them up to the screen? Lorellin's presence would have made a huge difference to this whole debacle, I think. I suspect that she would have Solith wrapped around her little finger and that Celuwen and Eilian would have bonded long ago. And Thranduil's parenting style would have been balanced out a little, as you say. He loves his sons, but he tends to see his role as making them toe the line. Eilian is being too bossy and Celuwen is *allowing* it, not buckling under to it. I see her as someone who knows her own mind and will act on it, but won't make trouble until she has to. She will be so good for Eilian! And when Thranduil finds out what's going on, Eilian will no longer be the one giving orders.

Ms. Whatsit · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Eek! My review somehow ate the quotes I put in! The two weird blank spaces are supposed to contain 1) Eilian's thought about how they have eternity together, and 2) his amazement at being mentally connected to Celuwen.

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Computers are possessed by the devil sometimes. :-)

Ms. Whatsit · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

That was a sweet chapter, with Solith behaving like Solith as usual. I rather like Isiwen. I *love* how you explored what marriage means to an Elf. <> And you know what? Elves literally do, and they *know* that they do, unlike humans. Barring Eilian getting killed, of course, which is always a possibility, but which you will never have the heart to do. Right? Right? And this: <> That's rather intense, though probably not unpleasant for Eilian. Maybe you'll write more about their early years of marriage? It's wonderful how you stick to Laws and Customs and still make everything so interesting and passionate. I'm not a fan of those fics where the Elves run around sleeping with any and all animate objects, not by any means, but at the same time I always kind of thought that LACE made the Elves sound rather dull. Yours aren't at all, though. Although I did wonder in passing: if Elves are married the minute they have sex, how terrible would it be for Eilian if he and Celuwen had lost control before they knew they really loved each other? Or is it that Elves can't feel desire for each other until they are in love, since their minds control their bodies? I'm clearly thinking too much about Elf sex, so I'll stop now. <<“Eilian did not push me into anything,” she said. “I made my choice. I chose Eilian because I could not do otherwise, and bonding with him has left my heart so much at peace that I could never regret what I have done. Can you not be happy for me, Adar?”>> Repeat that verbatim to Thranduil, Celuwen, and maybe your new husband's life expectancy won't be so bleak. I do hope she's planning to write stern letters to Solith telling him *not* to make unnecessary trouble for Thranduil just out of spite! <<“I am taking Celuwen home,” he said with determination. “We will leave today.” He could not imagine staying in this cottage for even a single night.>> Eilian, darling, you might want to *ask* Celuwen about that first! She'll have her work cut out for her taming him, that's for sure. This review is about ten pages long already, so I'll shut up and get back to waiting for the next update :).

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I thought about Elven sexuality in some detail (for writing purposes only of course!!) when I wrote about Ithilden's wedding in a single-chapter fic called "Joinings." My theory is that Elves are hard-wired to feel sexual desire in proportion to their love. That is, young folks might like one another and do some kissing etc. but they're not going to feel lthe desire for intercourse unless they're in love. I don't see how LACE can work otherwise. Nilmandra says that Elves' minds control their bodies and that's how it works (the control of the mind is also what makes for the quick healing of elves after wounds). Other people are going to differ with me on this, thank goodness, because that's what makes for a variety of interesting stories. Eilian is going to have to learn that Celuwen gets to decide things like where she will live. I made him a little bossy in this chapter, mostly because he's nervous and wants to get out of there. And Celuwen allows this kind of stuff to roll off her back when it suits her. She didn't want to either a) sleep with Eilian in her bedroom in the cottage or b) set up newlywed housekeeping in his campsite. And Thranduil has to be told. So she lets Eilian be in charge for now. It will be interesting when "for now" ends!

Jocelyn · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

YYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY!!! (Dances the happy dance) I am so darn warm and fuzzy inside! You have no idea how much I needed this chapter to turn out just as it has! School is awful and my career planning is hitting one pot hole after another and I'm STRESSED! But now I'm happy! I loved that last conversation with Solith. "Smile." HA! I've just got this big goofy grin on my face and I can hardly review coherently. What the heck. I'll try to give a little more productive review of the chapter when I've lost this goofy smile. But I will say this...if you don't give us the next chappie with Thranduil's reactions, I will hunt you down and eat you! Ahem. I shall return! (Runs off giggling)

Author's reply

I realize that you are a prospective attorney, Jocelyn, but you are going to have to refrain from inflicting harm on me if you want to know what happens because I still need to get Legolas off the flet in the settlement before Eilian and Celuwen waltz into the dining room for breakfast. :-) And I understand grad school/law school stress. I used to get migraines that stopped the minute I finished my degree. Only on Saturdays though. That was the only day I had time to be sick. I swear I think some of it is just hazing.

Nilmandra · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

The Eilian - Solith interaction was really done. Solith can be a jerk, and although he is insensitive to his daughter on this particular morning, it is clear that he loves her dearly. I love in particular his inviting Eilian to not visit, but to send Celuwen! It is also clear that Eilian and Celuwen belong together - and they are so happy together this morning. I like Eilian's utter joy and delight at waking to find her in his bed and his mind! I am *so* looking forward to morning in the palace :-)

Author's reply

I'm glad you liked the conversation between Eilian and Solith. I actually wrote that part of the chapter several months ago. I've been turning this story over in my mind for a while now, as you know. You'll have to wait a while to see Thranduil in full rage I think. I need to get Legolas off that flet. We last saw him in the middle of the day on which Eilian and Celuwen travel home, and I have to get him home in time to interact with folks a little before his leave ends. Here's my chart of the time line so far. I should put it at the start of the next chapter. Day 1. Legolas arrive home in the evening Day 2. Eilian sees healer and gets permission to ride. Rides with Legolas. Asks Thranduil for permission to become betrothed. Rain in the night. Flooding knocks down the food flet at the settlement Day 3. Eilian leaves to visit Celuwen and arrives with rabbits. Thranduil gets request from settlement. Legolas helps to gather food from the palace storage. Day 4. Legolas leaves. Arrives at settlement around noon. Eilian tells Celuwen about letters. Bonds in evening. Day 5. Thieves steal food. River floods again. Eilian starts home. Legolas rescues Tuilinn. Stuff that happens in chapter 10.

meckinock · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Can I add that the person whose reaction I am most interested in seeing is Ithilden??

Author's reply

I gotta tell you, I have been having a hard time pinning this down! I've thought about Ithilden and how he would react, but I think I'm going to have to eventually work it out in the concrete events of the chapter. I've also wondered how Celuwen and Alfirin would get along.

meckinock · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

I loved Eilian's amazed wonderment at waking to find that it wasn't a dream; he really does get to spend eternity with Celuwen. Their playfulness and easy banter reinforced the rightness of their decision; though naturally (some things never change) it fell to Celuwen to be the voice of reason and get them on the road before Solith could come looking for them. I was so glad that their understandable trepidation about their parents' reactions was not able to spoil their first hours as newlyweds. Their childlike bliss and delight will surely yield soon enough to the tensions of everyday life. Solith took it like an Elf, didn't he? Let's see how they fare with Thranduil....

Author's reply

These two have known one another since they were children. Actually when I started thinking about a romance for Eilian many months ago, it struck me that he's a flirt but he's also deeply loyal. If he had formed an attachment in childhood, that would have been it. And thus Celuwen was born! He has loved her in some way forever, with the love changing as they grew older. And she understands him, I think. They are enjoying themselves as much as they can under the circumstances. Yes, now comes Thranduil.

Any · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Phew *lets out relieved breath* Well, in case you wonder why I'm relieved, you know, I fully expected Sólith to kill Eilian with his bare hands! Really. Phew! *wipes sweat off forehead* Isiwen was fun to read! If Celuwen has inheritated a bit of her mother's character Eilian will have a lot of "fun" with his wife *eg* Hehe, poor Eilian! *lol* I like to way you prtray women or rather she-elves in your stories. They are strong, proud women, not some weak always-on-the-edge-of-tears maiden. I really like that! :) Now that Eilian and Celuwen have arrived at the palace I feel like the two are indeed bearding the lion in his den! *gulps* Oh, Thranduil will be fuming! My oh my! :/ I only can think of one way they can stopp Thranduil in his wrath: Celuwen crying right in front of him! He's just seems to be the kind of guy who cannot bear to see a woman cry. He'd feel quite bad for making her cry and his anger will fade into guilt *lol* :). Too easy? Mhm, I can't wait to find out what you have in store for all of them. ~Any P.S.: In your response to my last review you wrote that you think my inner fangirl is showing. Mhm, now, what's that supposed to mean? Should I feel insulted now? ;)

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I think that Celuwen is perfectly capable of handling Eilian once she gets over the disorientation she's feeling about uprooting her whole life. This is much harder for her than for Eilian, although his father is going to be harder to deal with than hers, unpleasant as Solith could be. Thranduil is not only a fairly strict father, he's also the king and that complicates his reactions to everything. My inner fangirl sympathizes with yours. She is the reason I spend my spare time writing this stuff!

dr_seuss_is_cool · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

hello! aw...how cute, fluffy, and sensual all at the same time. It reminded me of my father when Solith told Eilian to smile too...good job with that. I loved how you described how Solith was so angry and how he handled it. I also adored Isiwen's outburst...it reminded me of my mother when she gets too frustrated. well...that was very well done, and very well waited for. How come every time you write the chapters with Eilian and Celuwen...i'm always on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happens next? ha...thank you for writing. bye!

Author's reply

Celuwen's parents love her and want her to be happy. Unfortunately, Solith also hates Eilian so she's kind of caught in the middle. And Isiwen rose to the occasion, bless her. I'm glad you like these Eilian/Celuwen chapters. They're fun to do.

naneth · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

What a sweet chapter! I think the father of the new wife must always pull aside the new husband to give him a "pep" talk about taking care of his little girl. I know that my dad did that, and I married the kindest, sweetest man in the world. Dads and their daughters, sigh. However, I fully expect Thranduil to kill Eilian the next morning. Hopefully, he will not do so in Celuwen's presence. Those poor newlyweds are going to have a hard time at first. Legolas is going to return to quite a tempest, and doesn't have a clue what he's heading towards! He'll probably be very happy to return to the Southern Patrol-and as quickly as possible.

Author's reply

Solith is most unhappy with what's happened, and in this chapter, I wanted his love of his daughter to be evident because normally, he's so pigheaded that you can't see it. Thranduil is another kettle of fish. There will be no females there to shelter Eilian when his father realizes what's been going on. I've been wondering how Legolas will react to what's happening. He'll be so shocked!

sol III · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Ah, so reassuring to see that Celuwen has no morning-after regrets. It is good to see them both happy for a change. Solith was not quite as homicidal as I'd feared, but with the two ladies of his life present, I gather he didn't dare express himself quite honestly. Nicely edgy chapter, with a happy ending :) However, the phrase out of the frying pan and into the fire comes to mind....

Author's reply

Celuwen is a cautious Elf, and she made her choice deliberately. So she has no regrets. That's not to say that she is happy in all ways (even Eilian's room is not so welcoming), but she loves him and could not have done otherwise. Would the fire be named Thranduil?

tigerlily713 · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

He'd better enjoy his night, because come morning, he'll be in real hot water. Great chapter. If only Solith and Eilian could communicate with respect rather than loathing. If only... Anyway, lovely job. I eagerly await more! Lily

Author's reply

Thranduil will be waiting at the breakfast table and we'll see what happens then. Solith is very unhappy right now. I'm not sure he'll ever get over it, but we'll have to see.

LOTRFaith · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 9: Celuwen's Parents

Awwwww! How cute! I was a little startled at the sudden bonding, but am rather pleased...... :-D A happy Eilian and Celuwen.... But how does Legolas fare I wonder;-) I trust, as much as I like the now happy couple, that we will soon find out what is happening to our youngest prince..:-D Oh quick question.... Did Legolas well you know with that girl? And if what you said in the beginning is true, if Legolas and that 'female';-p you know wouldn't they be considered married as well? Or would that not be considered...????? Hmmmmmm? :-D:-P:-)

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In the next chapter, I have to get Legolas down off that flet. I left him in the middle of the day on which Eilian and Celuwen returned to the palace. So he's next. Legolas is far better behaved than Eilian, plus he barely knows this girl whereas Eilian has been courting Celuwen for a couple of hundred years. So NO!

Dot · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 8: Flood

Exciting! Great sense of tension between the two parties of elves. Anyr is becoming more annoying by the minute. I mean, it’s fairly hard to deny the fact that men were responsible for the missing food if the tracks are there to prove it. And it’s not like it’s any men in particular that have been accused… Legolas seems to be quickly running out of patience. Still, he lasted a lot longer than I would have. He’s right that things will be awkward between him and Tinar if they are assigned together again as warriors. But then again, Legolas is only doing what he must and respecting people according to their positions is a lesson Tinar really needs to learn. I imagine Ithilden isn’t really in the habit of re-assigning people just because they don’t get on. I would love, though, to see Tinar sent permanently far, far away…maybe he could go and deal with men – or dwarves! – on a regular basis;) Wow, that conversation between Legolas and Tuilinn was tense. I understand that she is upset that her friends seem to be accused but it makes me wonder just what exactly these settlement elves would have done if Legolas and co. hadn’t taken it upon themselves to get to the bottom of the matter. Would they just have ignored the footprints, presumed the meat would turn up again and then asked the king for more when it didn’t?? I’m telling you, Galivion isn’t the only one rolling eyes at their behaviour! Your description of the men’s village was just so vivid and heart-breaking. “Legolas saw a child’s cot tangled with the pieces of a wagon.” So sad… I’m glad Legolas and Galivion just jumped right in to help. It seems to have given poor Legolas a chance to work out some of his frustration too and think a bit more clearly. And then, if he was still feeling a little bit of anger, along comes Tinar – the perfect target! My jaw dropped when Legolas launched into his speech – but then I gathered myself and had a cheer! I do love seeing Legolas like that! What a great leader he’d make. There really couldn’t possibly be a better representative for the king. Yikes, Tuilinn had to do all that on her own? How brave she is, particularly as she tries to save them despite the fact that she is clearly petrified. You really had me on the edge of my seat for the last part of this chapter. This mission has really turned into so much more than Legolas thought it would. Of course, Thranduil obviously wouldn’t have predicted this either. And despite what they’ve just been through, it was a lovely closing image you left us with there! I’m still willing to give Tuilinn a chance...:)

Author's reply

Ithilden actually has a problem trying to decide what to do with Tinar. I worked with a woman like that once. If we let her deal with people in other departments, she alienated them and we all paid the price. But if we kept her doing stuff for us, she drove us bonkers. The trick was to find some situation in which she'd be useful. Like once, another department had permanently appropriated equipment that was supposed to be shared. So we just kind of wound her up and pointed her in the right direction and said "go get 'em!", which she did. When I was in Texas, a friend who reads my stories (she calls them a 'guilty pleasure') said that my characters needed to occasionally have a bad day in order to be more realistic. They didn't need to be wrong necessarily, just cranky or whatever. And that's what Legolas and both doing here, I think. I loved writing about Legolas lighting into Tinar. It was so satisfying. Legolas can apparently do the son of the king bit well enough when the occasion arises. It's just that he usually defers to his older brothers. But this mission is a chance to carry out a responsible, adult task. I actually made myself tense writing about Tuilinn and the children. It was scary! I keep seeing her in the water, holding two children, with a third clinging to her and unable to keep his feet, poor thing.

Dot · 8 April 2004 · Chapter 7: Night Meetings

Sorry, daw. I haven’t abandoned you. My grandmother died unexpectedly at the weekend and, well, it’s been a rough few days – but I promise I’ll try and catch up now. I loved the opening of this chapter. It set the scene beautifully and it’s really touching the way Legolas shares his thoughts with and tries to comfort the trees. He seems genuinely very apprehensive about Thranduil’s reaction to events. Of course, an angry Thranduil is not something I’d want to experience but I think that even though he does expect a lot of his sons, they really can be their own harshest critics. “Anyr would undoubtedly think he was profoundly un-Elven, and in truth, Legolas sometimes thought that himself.” Ooh, that’s an interesting thought. Yeah, it is sad that Legolas feels that he can’t live as elves believe they should, simply because of the time in which he lives, but at the same time he can be proud of his skills as a warrior that set him apart as an elf from any other race in Middle-earth. Hmmn. I think I do like Tuilinn. I certainly can’t blame her for thinking Legolas was criticising her people when she’s probably heard all sorts of rumours, and at least she apologises… The image of Legolas trying to make sure there was a foot between them made me smile;) “It soils you, and you grasp at every beauty of Arda, every person you love, every innocent child you see, to try to find clean happiness again.” Oh wow, what an eloquent way of describing it. It really captures the way the touch of Shadow almost haunts these warriors to the point that they struggle to clutch onto not just reality but reality as it should be. It says a lot about how comfortable Legolas feels with Tuilinn that he would express his thoughts so willingly. Of course, she would understand the importance of nature’s beauty and could probably appreciate a little the horror of that being taken away. Ah, he kissed her! I’m glad… Eilian and Celuwen, eh?? What a build-up to the act itself. I was having almost as much trouble trying not to scroll down and see what happens as Eilian was having trying to hold on… I didn’t think they’d really do it! Do you write much of this, uh, stuff? ‘Cos you’re really good at it! In a way, though, I felt a little embarrassed – almost as though I shouldn’t be watching!! I think it’s just because I feel like I know Eilian and should give him some privacy;) I have to admit that at first I thought maybe he was pressuring her because he literally couldn’t wait but no, these two truly love and respect each other and I’m so happy for them! And I can’t wait to see what Solith and Thranduil will have to say!!

Author's reply

I'm so sorry about your grandmother, Dot. RL sometimes kicks us in the teeth. Your observation that Thranduil's sons can be their own harshest critics is right on, I think (with the possible exception of Eilian). And I enjoyed writing about Legolas comforting the trees and then being comforted by Tuilinn. He needs a moment for joy, as his naneth would have said. I've never written a sex scene before and was VERY nervous about this one, but I decided I wanted to show the full range of bonding. My husband never reads my stuff, but I asked him to read this because I was writing from a male POV and didn't want to look stupid. He read it, cleared his throat, and said "This is pretty good." So then I didn't know if that was good or bad because I didn't want it to be TOO good, if you know what I mean. Anyway, I'm glad you thought it was a success. I gave Legolas some privacy (not that he needed it so much), but readers have been waiting for Eilian and Celuwen to bond for a long time, so it seemed appropriate for them to attend the wedding, so to speak. Solith and Thranduil will not be happy and I doubt if they'll blame Celuwen.

White Wolf · 7 April 2004 · Chapter 8: Flood

I'm certainly glad that Legolas went back to check on Tuilinn, and they were able to save the children and themselves. Too bad Legolas doesn't have the authority to assign Tinar as a permanent guard for the settlement. On second thought, I don't think even those dippy elves deserve the likes of him. I loved it when Legolas 'imitated' Ithilden.

Author's reply

I tried to imagine how frightening it must have been for Tuilinn with all these little kids to care for and on her own. And I love authoritative Legolas. My inner fangirl sighed happily at that moment. You have actually hit on something I've considered!

Jebb · 7 April 2004 · Chapter 8: Flood

Tell me I am wrong to suspect Tinar had something to do with the thefts? I just have this awful feeling Legolas gets to appreciate the full horror of the floods and becomes a hero I hope Thranduil doesn't get to hear of it This was a glorious chapter full of little pleasures that make your writing so wonderful

Author's reply

Wow, you really do not like Tinar! Set your mind at rest. He's not that bad (obnoxious but not that bad). I loved writing about heroic Legolas. He seemed to capable, which makes sense given his long years now as a warrior. He's close to being Legolas of the Fellowship now, right down to gaining more respect for Men.

Elena Tiriel · 7 April 2004 · Chapter 8: Flood

"Anyr told Galivion that it never occurred to him that anyone would steal from them." Aaarrrrgggh! There's "Arda will provide" and then there's Stupidity! After all the "unnecessary fuss" made by the King's representatives about the food supplies and all of Anyr's disappointment that it wasn't as large a shipment as he had asked for, it never occurred to Anyr that the food is valuable and someone might want to steal it? (He's giving hippies a very bad name...) Poor Legolas. Things just keep getting worse at the settlement! (Well, except for the bright spot named Tuilinn...) And I love how you worked the missing Beliond - or rather, his extensive vocabulary - into the story! Oh-oh! The dark clouds aren't just on the horizon any more, are they? And rain will wash away footprints, among other problems. Ah, I just love Annael! At least *someone* truly understands the sacrifice that Legolas made for this misbegotten mission. He is helping to keep Legolas sane... Harrumph! Tinar has a real knack for making bad situations even worse, doesn't he? I'm beginning to dislike him *almost* as much as Solith. (I wouldn't put it past Tinar to steal the meat himself and frame the Men for the theft -- except it looks like there were two thieves.) Yes! Legolas told Tinar to hold his tongue! Finally! Legolas is learning to use Ithilden's intimidating commander stance! Yay! Anyr: "I cannot understand it. Perhaps they have just been misplaced." Aaaarrrrgh again! "Children needed that meat." That's getting right to the heart of the matter. And I am so pleased that he didn't think "Elven children", or "children of Men", just "children". Oh, please don't let the thieves be Men from the neighboring village... I really liked their sensible leader, Crydus, and desperately want them all to be good guys. I have this gut-level sense that if the respective levels of flood damage had been reversed, the Men would have come to the aid of the Elves to the best of their ability, just as the Elves did for the Men. Um, Legolas? Don't take your frustrations out on Tuilinn! She's only voicing her opinion! Yeah, you're having a truly rotten day, but... go beat on Tinar instead. At least he *deserves* it, on general principles alone! (Too bad Solith's not handy.) [Okay, so what kind of weirdo does that make me, giving advice to characters in a fictional story? Um, you don't actually have to answer that. Really.] Oh, my. The Men's village sounds like a total disaster area. The image of "a child's cot tangled with the pieces of a wagon" is especially evocative of just how dangerous and destructive the previous flood was, and how vulnerable the villagers are still. I'm glad that both Legolas and Galivion understand the proper priorities: help the Men avoid another disaster first, worry about the stolen food later. (I have a lot of respect for Galivion: a voice of both reason and reasonableness.) Strident: that's a good description of Tinar in full-blown obnoxious mode. I'm so glad Legolas finally read him the riot act! His actions have been nothing less than disrespectful to the neighboring Men, the settlement Elves, and Legolas himself. If Mirkwood didn't need warriors so badly, I'd like to see him dishonorably discharged from the warrior ranks. (That would give his family something to chew on... Doesn't he have a younger brother who's really decent, but neglected by his family because they fawn on Tinar so much?) You can really see the ever-increasing leadership and sense of responsibility in Legolas: he begins to worry about the safety of Tuilinn and the children in the rising flood waters (when Anyr didn't even give a thought to their protection). Oh, dear! Poor Tuilinn, struggling to save three Mannish children! That was a long, drawn-out rescue by Legolas and Tuilinn... You really like to keep your readers' nerves taut as bowstrings, don't you? (But I bet she'll be receptive to his apology for being snappish earlier...) Another great chapter, Daw. And thank you for not leaving your poor readers with children in imminent danger as a cliff-hanger! (Assuming the tree with the children's flet doesn't fall down, of course. You wouldn't do that, would you?) Do we get to see more of Eilian and Celuwen in the next chapter? *** A little info about filling sand bags, in case you ever need it in the real world *** IIRC, these are the instructions we were given during the last flood alert (which was several years ago, so if anyone else contradicts this, they are probably correct...) You fill the bottom 1/3 of the bag with dry sand, then fold over the top 1/3, and lay the bag down on its side so that the folded-over part is underneath. That way, the sand has room to swell when it becomes wet, and doesn't burst the bag. (Of course, in your story, it's not clear where they would have found *dry* sand anyway...) *** End silly real-world stuff ***

Author's reply

Well, as Galivion said, planning ahead is not Anyr's strong point. :-) Legolas is having a very bad day. He woke up cranky and things went down hill from there. We've all had days like that, I think. One of the things I've been trying to do is make my characters flawed in realistic ways that still don't undermine how good they are. Legolas's peevishness is part of my current attempt at that! He shouldn't have snapped at Tuilinn, but we all occasionally snap when we shouldn't, so that's my excuse there! Tinar is appalling. I loved writing about Legolas telling him off. I also liked writing about heroic Legolas. [insert long, fangirl sigh] Cool information about the sandbags. I did not know that!

Lera · 6 April 2004 · Chapter 8: Flood

Wonderful, wonderful chapter. It was so exciting all the way thru. I was surprised Legolas didn't pull every strand of his beautiful blond hair out! The poor guy's day just went from bad to worse! Who made Anyr in charge of the settlement, anyway? Actually, come to think of it, you did! What were you thinking?! Poor Legolas! Just kidding. That Tinar. *shakes head* After reading about him, I'm pretty much speechless at how awful he is. I'm so glad Legolas wasn't speechless though...he told that bratty elf off good! Ithilden would be proud. Ok, but I want to know who stole the food. Maybe the men were from another village...surely anyone near the river would be having trouble with flooding, and not everyone's lucky enough to live near elves who will share(even if it's without the King's permission). I like Tuilinn. I agree with Legolas: she's sweet. She's also smart and brave. I'm a little(alright, a lot!) jealous of her though...I want to be rescued by Legolas! And how absolutely terrifing to be alone with the children completely depending on you and floods are a force that can't really be fought, you can only stay out of the way. It was cute when the little elf said "Tuilinn said even though the other children couldn't climb trees they were good at other things." More points for Tuilinn. I have one question though...where were the other female elves? I understand the males were helping the men in the village, but were the other women elves there too? It seems like if they'd been around they would have helped Tuilinn. Ah, well. Thranduil will be proud of his son. I know I am! And I think Thranduil will be needing a little good news about one of his children shortly. Eilien, Eilien, how Eilienish of you to take care of the problem this way. Question: when elves sleep together does that mean they've bonded, as in gotten married? Can't wait for the next chapter!

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Re Elven marriages, I usually try to follow what Tolkien says in an essay titled "Laws and Customs of the Eldar (LACE)." It's in one of the volumes of The History of Middle Earth called Morgoth's Ring. Some authors do not use LACE on the grounds that it was not published in Tolkien's lifetime. Rather it was his son who found the essay and published it. I think that's a valid choice too. Anyway, in LACE, Tolkien says that it's lawful for adult elves to wed at any time without ceremony except for "the blessings" if they are both willing (in other words, they marry by choice, so sex wouldn't necessarily mean marriage unless they wanted it to, although Tolkien also implies that they are usually virgins until they marry). Sexual union is what puts the bonding (the marriage) into effect and the bond lasts until the end of Arda. There is no divorce and elves are still married even if one of them dies. Usually, elves are fairly decorous about marrying. They ask their parents' advice on the suitability of the match and then are engaged for at least a year. They are married in a gathering of both houses, because family is very important to elves and seems to be the organizing principle of most of their society. A couple can marry without all that ceremony etc, especially if the society is in turmoil, such as in a time of war. But to marry without the ceremonies in a time of peace was considered disrespectful to the families and a violation of the kind of decorous behavior that is valued. Thranduil's realm is not exactly at peace, of course, but there really was no emergency surrounding Celuwen and Eilian, so their impromptu bonding is likely to be read by their parents as defiant or insulting and too driven by passion. Another little wrinkle is that Elves can apparently tell from one another's eyes or voice if someone is married. As I look at Anyr now, I think I may have made him too irresponsible. I sure wouldn't want him in charge of my town! I think any elf who was old enough to help was at the Men's village, females as well as males. I actually made myself nervous writing about the flood. It would be terrifying to be Tuilinn.

Elena Tiriel · 6 April 2004 · Chapter 7: Night Meetings

Legolas sure seems to be feeling so uncertain of himself. It doesn't help that he's been imagining Thranduil's probable negative reactions to his diplomatic efforts. While it's a good sign that he's thinking about the possibility that peace will come in the future, it's unfortunate that he is afraid that he will never lose the tenseness and alertness that has served him so well as a warrior, even if the situation no longer warrants it. Ah, Tuilinn! What a lovely distraction from Legolas's unsettled thoughts! (An apple orchard? That reminds me of that really old World War II song: "Don't go sitting under the apple tree, with anyone else but me!") Too bad that Legolas's position as the King's representative makes him unable to even chat with her about something humorous - like Rodien and the Evil Enemy Carrots - without being taken wrong. What a miserable position! I didn't expect Tuilinn to be so sympathetic about Legolas's duty in the south. Legolas certainly seems to connect with her, for him to blurt out what he did about the Shadow clinging when he goes home. A kiss! Oho, that's even better! So, Legolas thinks better of settlement Elves now, does he? ;-D Eilian certainly seems to have been waiting a long time, wondering what happened between Celuwen and Solith. Acorn meal mush -- yuk! And after they had hunted what, *eight* rabbits? (I've been meaning to speak with someone in charge of this story [whether that's the author, the muse(s), or the characters, I don't know] about how wood elves would never take more than necessary for their immediate needs from Arda, even if there are two bull-headed ego-driven males competing with each other... but was too afraid to sound like that dippy hippie, Anyr.) "He admitted he kept your letters from me," she said grimly. "He has promised he will not do so again." Well, that's about as understated as "The Shadow lies heavily there." Enquiring minds want to *know* what happened in the confrontation between Celuwen and Solith! I'll bet he didn't recognize what hit him... (metaphorically speaking, of course)! Hope you'll fill in some appropriate juicy details at some appropriate spot in some appropriate story... Oh, I *like* feisty Celuwen so much! Ahhh, so he *finally* tells her he wants them to bond! Good! I've been rooting for him to do so - he hadn't yet told her (in words) why he came! Way to go, Eilian! (So, when's the one-year-or-more betrothal?) Oh. Oh, my! When you said Eilian would solve his problem in an Eilian-like way, I didn't think you meant... Oh, my! Eilian, you dumb ass, would you stop talking and seducing long enough for her to agree?! Oh, my! What a lovely bonding blessing. And he wasn't the only one to hold his breath to see if she would respond in kind... Oh, my! Please, please, please don't let Solith interrupt them! Oh, my! Aw, she kissed his wound! How sweet! After he'd been trying to downplay it... now she knows at least some of the truth of how serious it truly was. Oh, my! 'He despaired at how inadequate the words were to tell her what he felt.' Always knew he was such a romantic at heart... Oh, my! '...suddenly he realized that he was also touching her mind, her heart, her whole being.' Daw, that's so inspiring! I've never seen Elven bonding described so beautifully. Oh, my! That whole bonding scene is just... so... lovely, loving, amazing, and beautiful! But what of the consequences? Oh, my!

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I think Legolas is reacting to what was his first tour of duty in the south. This is his first leave from that and Eilian was hurt nearly to death within days after Legolas got there. Then his leave was interrupted. Duty and the chaotic times must be weighing heavily on him right now. Tuilinn is a wonderfully sympathetic ear and a warm, accepting presence. Is 8 rabbits a lot? I thought there might not be much meat on them and they'd be hunting for more than one meal. I am a city girl and always humbly open to correction on matters having to do with hunting, camping (otherwise known as sleeping the dirt and why would anyone choose to do that?), etc. I'm glad you liked the bonding. I was really hesitant about it and have since realized (based on some reviews I've gotten at ff.net) that I did not make it clear they were marrying one another. I wanted the totality of their union to be evident. The consequences are likely to be parental fireworks. But then, this is Eilian!

dr_seuss_is_cool · 6 April 2004 · Chapter 8: Flood

Bonjour. I loved how you made us wait to see what happened with Eilian. I'm just kidding. I am very proud of Legolas telling Tinar off...he deserved it. I love the little rescue scene with Legolas and Tuilinn...very well done. I am very worried about how he will handle the whole stealing of food bit. I'm sure that he will be as diplomatic as he always has been. It's great to see this side of Legolas. I like it. Thank you for writing. Good job! Au Revoir.

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Actually, I have a hard time switching back and forth between Eilian and Legolas too. I just get going on one of them and have to go back to the other. But I liked writing abour heroic Legolas. He rescued a maiden and some children and told off an obnoxious fool. I love him!!

meckinock · 6 April 2004 · Chapter 8: Flood

Good for Legolas to put Tinar in his place! Long overdue. It's sad knowing that this budding little romance of Legolas's is predestined for failure, though. I laughed out loud at your review replies where you said you modeled the settlement elves on hippies. Yes, perfectly!! And even worse; aging hippies. So well-intentioned, as long as someone else is paying the bill. You obviously have the benefit of observing them in their native habitat...

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Hey! How do you know I'm not going to marry Legolas off to Tuilinn???? :-) I had a bad day at work today, and I reread the description of Legolas telling Tinar off with great relish. I wished I could do that to about six people who were all in a meeting with me that had gone on for 45 minutes without getting to either of the two big items on the agenda. I try to picture Legolas explaining all this to an incredulous Thranduil, but then I remind myself the the Elven king is going to have bigger fish to fry (or possibly gut).

naneth · 6 April 2004 · Chapter 8: Flood

Everyone needs a friend like Annael. Annael's reaction to the language Legolas used was perfect. I'm sure he's not accustomed to such language from Legolas when he is at home! Tinar's dressing down by Legolas was simply the best ever! Legolas channeling Ithilden and Thranduil at the same time to put Tinar in his place was SO well done. Bravo! I hope that Tinar is around when Legolas gets his promotion to Lt., but he'll probably be clueless as to why Legolas gets a promotion and he doesn't. Legolas the hero was wonderful. This was a very enjoyable chapter. Good work!

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I suspect Legolas watches his mouth when he's at home. Thranduil expects decorum! Everyone seems to have enjoyed watching Tinar get sand kicked in his face. I laughed to myself when I thought of pulling Tinar out of my desk drawer and sending him on this expedition. He's such a fool. Heroic Legolas makes me squee like a fangirl.

ANA · 6 April 2004 · Chapter 8: Flood

So many things to cheer for in this chapter that I don't even know where to start. Legolas finally snapped at Tinar - good for him! Now if only he would do the same to Anyr, I'd be even happier. Normally I'm not the violent type, but I think smashing these elves together by their heads might bring some relief to all around even if doesn't smack some senses into them. To be put on equal footing as Ithilden - Legolas must be bursting with pride. I know I was for him. He really is showing maturity far beyond his age. Great chapter!

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You made me laugh out loud at the image of knocking Anyr's and Tinar's heads together just because it would feel soooo good to do it. And yes, I think Legolas was enormously flattered at being compared to Ithilden. He's admired his oldest brother for his whole life, after all.