Lamiel
· 12 July 2004
· Chapter 39: Small Victories
And I wonder if Kali didn't turn and wipe her mouth afterward too, having kissed an Elf.
I'm sorry to see this story end - it's been great fun, and a wonderful take on these scenes that Tolkien neglected. I love your Legolas too: he's prideful, stubborn, fey, and kind; generous and with a good heart, but also a temper. And, most of all, he's very Elvish. Perfect.
Thank you for sharing your talent with us.
Author's reply
You're welcome. :) And thanks for reading and reviewing!
wantanelf
· 12 July 2004
· Chapter 39: Small Victories
What a great story. I'm so sad it's over. I loved that Thorin gave Legolas the little monkey. I see him as a real animal lover. And the kiss from Kali and Legolas' return kiss. What a hoot! And then the wiping of his mouth. How funny!! You truly have a gift Coriel. You really capture Legolas and Gimli in a believable way. I'm anxiously awaiting your next story. Thanks for the great read!!
Author's reply
Thank you! The "believable" stamp is something I always work for. With any luck, I'll be able to continue We Were Young Once now and then. I never thought I could ever get tired of Legolas, but I think I'll retire him for a while and play with his father. ;D
Anonymous
· 12 July 2004
· Chapter 39: Small Victories
I could not imagine what last line you could end this with that would match all the wit and the theme in the story.
"Valar forbid his friends should ever hear he had kissed a Dwarf."
That was too perfect.
What an absolutely wonderful, rich story. I have loved it and I will sorely miss your writing. Good luck in your freshman year. I have no doubt you will do well.
Author's reply
Beginnings and endings are always hard, but thankfully this one provided itself in a timely fashion. :) Everyone tells me this college is a great place, though it is demanding. Hopefully I'll have time to squeeze in some fun around the study, maybe even post a chapter or two now and then. ;)
So glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for reading!
Ms. Whatsit
· 12 July 2004
· Chapter 39: Small Victories
HAHAHAHAHA! Wonderful last line, Coriel, and a really great last chapter. I've enjoyed every bit of this story. Thank you for writing it--there are so few good fics featuring Legolas--and good luck in college.
Author's reply
Thanks! I hadn't ever seen a Legolas portrayed exactly the way I thought seemed right, so I thought I'd share my take on him. Just thrilled that so many enjoyed it. :D
Rose Sared
· 12 July 2004
· Chapter 38: A King's Ransom
Back from holiday and I find three chapters. Joyful. You are so clever to write all that dispute and still keep everyone in character, most enjoyable.Perhaps Legolas is storing up troubles of his own by giving that blasted gaudy necklace away, but good on him.
Great story writing, well done. More more.
Rose
Author's reply
I'm sure he'll get the lecture later, but I don't think it will be too terrible after the initial "You did WHAT!!!"
Just a bit more, then I have to do my homework. ;)
Artemis
· 11 July 2004
· Chapter 38: A King's Ransom
Aaack! Not the Sereguren! Argh. >.< Excellent chapter (why the Sereguren??)! ^^
Author's reply
Hehehe, you sound like Thranduil. ;)
Ms. Whatsit
· 10 July 2004
· Chapter 38: A King's Ransom
Heh. I like Kali. Legolas is right to leave, I fear--you can't make friends with everyone. But he did meet several Dwarves of goodwill, so his trip wasn't wasted.
Author's reply
Certainly not. :) Maybe in a few years things will have cooled off a bit. Or he could just wait and go visit Gimli in Aglarond where there will hopefully be a lot of like-minded dwarves.
ziggy
· 10 July 2004
· Chapter 38: A King's Ransom
This has just got better and better. Since they got to Mirkwood, your writing is just full of life and richness. The characters are utterly faithful and this is such a joy to read. I love Kali (the Destroyer in Hindu religion as I am sure you know) She is so strong and resoltely honourable. My favourite character (Apart for L & G of course). I hadnt cuaght up for a couple of weeks so the last few chapters have been a real gift. Thank you.
Author's reply
Actually, I had no idea! I just put together what sounded like a dwarvish name. Interesting, though; and even rather appropriate.
And you're welcome. :)
sofia
· 9 July 2004
· Chapter 38: A King's Ransom
wow... dwarves need to start caring about other races beside their race.
-sofia
Author's reply
Well, they are known to be a clannish bunch.
Lamiel
· 9 July 2004
· Chapter 38: A King's Ransom
Legolas BRIBED Gloin? My goodness! I confess that I was extremely skeptical when Gimli first suggested it, but you actually pulled it off in a realistic and convincing way, that did not insult either party. The ransom was well portrayed as a traditional custom of Dwarven culture, and I'm very very glad that Gloin did not truly forgive the insult done to him at the offer of a bit of mithril. He was forced into politeness by an honored custom, and neither he nor Legolas are going to be friends any time soon, but they can at least put the past behind. Very very well done. Did you plan that when you had Legolas bring the Sereguren to the Mountain? It feels like something that came in handy at the moment, but perhaps you are better at plotting your stories than I am.
Oh, and I loved the bit about Thranduil just outlasting his mortal opponents. Hee! Now that is an advantage an Elf might be tempted to use. I'm not so sure about the idea of flogging as an Elven custom - it just doesn't seem like something they would do. Exile seems more likely, for a set amount of time. But I am so glad that you made it clear that they don't use capital punishment - ever, would be my view, given the experience with the kin-slaying.
Marvelous chapter. You've given Legolas a graceful out, without weakening any of the characters or making their interactions anything less than absolutely authentic and realistic. Nicely done.
Author's reply
Yes, I did plan that, though I tried to make it less than obvious. ;) But don't let that fool you; usually my plot development is a far cry from the greatest in the world.
I guess it would depend on the particuars of the offense. I don't imagine it was terribly common, but in extreme cases we did have Elves tossing Elves off the wall in Gondolin. So I suppose captial punishment was not unheard of, but still not something they would encourage. Even after Silmarillion, I have a hard time imagining everyday ordinary Elves having any kind of crime rate to speak of, but I'm sure there were at least a few bad apples to be dealt with over the years. :)
Firnsarnien
· 9 July 2004
· Chapter 38: A King's Ransom
Would it be too much to hope that Leggy could knock Gloin in the back of the head as well? LOL
Ah, this chappy had me seething and sad at the same time. I was so sad that despite all Leggy has tried to do, he has met with stubborn refusal at all ends. And I was so mad that he did! Curse these stubborn dwarves!
I bet his hand hurts worse than he is letting on huh? And I'll say again, poor Scatha, I hope his tail starts to heal soon.
I had hoped that Thorin would do more to talk Legolas out of leaving, but he didn't. And I had hoped that Leggy announcing his upcoming departure would soften the dwarves heart out of shame, but alas, that didn't happen either.
Tis a sad thing really, that the only thing that could put an end to this feud is mithryl. I think I've lost a lot of respect for Gimli's father! I really don't think I like him much anymore, not even for Gimli's sake! He's a greedy, selfish, stubborn, pig-headed old coot and pooh on him! There, now that I've said it, I feel much better! I only wish Kali had let him have it even worse than she did! If I were her, I'd even be ashamed to be married to him. Though, come to think of it, as mad as she was at him, I'll bet she does carry a little bit of shame at how Gloin has treated their son's friend. Sad that Gloin can't even put aside his dislike and anger for the sake of his son. Some father he is! Pooh on him again! LOL
Well, another wonderful chappy! Thanks so much for getting it up so fast! :) Now, I think I shall leave Saturday a much happier person! :D Well, actually, this was still a bit of a cliffy so maybe I'll leave content, instead of happy! LOL ;)
Can't wait till I come back so I can read the next one! :)
Author's reply
Actually, I'm sure Gloin's a decent guy when nothing's bothering him. We just haven't seen him at his best here. Give him a few years to get used to things. :)
Anonymous
· 9 July 2004
· Chapter 37: The Thunder Rolls
You must let us see Legolas' return home and his report to Thranduil. There is no way Thranduil would not figure out that Legolas left his guards behind or that more happened in the mountain. Not the details certainly, but he could read his son well enough to know all was not perfect--heck, logic would tell him that. And one final "return" would be too funny in your well written prose. Please include it.
Author's reply
Well, I'll see what I can do. :) I was considering that as a second epilogue, but we'll see if time and inspiration allow.
Marnie
· 9 July 2004
· Chapter 36: Three Steps Back
I loved this chapter! It's nice to see Legolas lose it and act spontaneously - I almost think that it will earn him more respect than his constant unflappability. The Dwarves seem like the sort to appreciate a violent reaction to being insulted, and it wouldn't have been at all realistic for Legolas to be calm in the face of being called a hobgoblin :) I like it a lot!
Author's reply
Glad to hear it! No, Dwarves hate a doormat, so I think Legolas has proven himself otherwise. And it was about time! :)
Elena Tiriel
· 9 July 2004
· Chapter 37: The Thunder Rolls
I was glad to see such a quick update on this! What a nasty situation... just your description of the forge makes me all tense; I'm pretty sure I would not have matched Legolas' level of forbearance of the insults.
I'm glad that Scatha had Legolas to tend to him; it's so like the Elf to tend to Scatha before his own wounds.
It's good that Thorin Stonehelm is laying down the law. Too bad he didn't do it sooner. It's clear that he takes the responsibility very seriously.
Looking forward to the next update!
- Barbara
P.S. A couple typos:
unworthy miscreant who imperiled the life Thranduil’s son -> life of
it did not phase many of the worn ponies -> faze many
Author's reply
Thanks! ;) Typos fixed.
Firnsarnien
· 8 July 2004
· Chapter 37: The Thunder Rolls
Well, I'm glad that at least Thorin is angry over the treatment of Legolas. And I'm happy to see him actually doing something about it! Perhaps, if he would have told his people from the beginning what he did now, all of this could have been avoided. And he's certainly right to compare how Gimli was treated by Thranduil and the Elves to how Legolas has been treated by the dwarves. I'm so mad at those thick-headed, stubborn, proud and irrating dwarves! Well, at least the ones that treated Legolas badly.
But, I really don't think giving Nain twenty-eight lashes nor locking him up till Leggy leaves is going to build any lasting relationships between Nain's house and the Elves. In fact, it just may make things worse. I hope no one retaliates! :O
Poor Scatha, I bet his tail is throbbing. Leave it to Legolas though, to take care of his hurts before his own. *sigh* He's so kindhearted. He'd have to be to put up with the way he's been treated! I sure hope his hand doesn't get infected...although...I certainly wouldn't mind. Heh, heh! ;)
And it's no wonder Legolas has had just about all he can take. Poor him, he really tried so hard too. I hope things take a turn for the better before he leaves. I'd be saddened to see him fail in befriending the dwarves. Hurry and make something good happen so he won't leave. Despite his horrid treatment, I want the dwarves to realize they shouldn't have treated Legolas as they did. He deserves much better for we all know what a kind soul he is.
Uh oh, I just thought of something. Now that Leggy seems to have given up and resigned himself to leave, you think he's going to free Scatha? Oooh, Thorin would be really mad then!
Can't wait for the next chappy! ;) If I don't catch your update by Saturday, I'll have to wait six whole days before I can read it! :( We're off on vacation Sunday. So ya see, you gotta hurry! LOL :)
Author's reply
OK, here ya go! I think I'm in more of a hurry to finish it than you are to read it. They finally sent me my summer homework (now that summer is almost gone), asking me to read The Iliad. I just got it today. Whoa-ho! Nobody told me it was 600 pages!
Don't think Elves can get infected, at least if that falls under their immunity to disease. That would certainly be nice. :)
sofia
· 8 July 2004
· Chapter 37: The Thunder Rolls
im so sorry about the other review, i pressed enter before i typed anything. My bad.
on to the review, i think that the punishment is a little to harsh, but then again, Nain is acting totally mean and everything. So i guess he deserves it.
I think its so sad that the dwarves are being so rude enough to actually make Legolas want to leave a few days after he came. More soon, please.
-sofia
Author's reply
No problem. ;) I've seen it before.
The world used to be a tougher place. I had originally intended to give him thirty at most, but luckily for Nain I could only drag Legolas' name out to twenty-eight letters.
Ms. Whatsit
· 8 July 2004
· Chapter 37: The Thunder Rolls
Oh, no, he's going to leave! I liked the Legolas-Gimli interaction, but they will be able to visit each other in Gondor and Rohan and of course there's always Valinor. I suppose this story is winding down to a close now that Legolas is getting ready to leave Erebor.
Thorin is being quite stern--good for him, though many Dwarves aren't likely to thank him. At least Thranduil will know that the *official* response of the Mountain was friendly.
Author's reply
I never could stand it when it was the other hoodlums in my work/study group who made a bad grade for all of us, so I feel for Thorin. Yes, I'm afraid we're winding down to a quick close now that my fanfic days are seriously numbered. Homework, shopping, packing, reading! Oh well, it's been fun. :)
Lamiel
· 8 July 2004
· Chapter 37: The Thunder Rolls
My, Thorin is in a snit, isn't he? Actually I like seeing him lay down the law, and certainly he would have to be forceful in commanding all those cantankerous Dwarves. 28 lashes sounds awful, to my modern sensibilities, but I guess it really isn't so bad considering the times they were living in. Still, I wonder how Legolas would react, if he finds out. My guess is that he'd want to leave all the sooner, so as to limit the time Nain spends in prison.
Yet somehow I can't believe that Legolas is really going to leave like this. Certainly it seems the best thing to do, given the current mood, but I think he's tougher than that. This is a challenge, after all, and it isn't in him to admit defeat. But it will be difficult, because he's going to have to overcome his own wounded pride. Wasn't it Gandalf who said that Elves and Dwarves were really very much alike? At least in their pride. I don't think Legolas will ever win the wholehearted friendship of the Mountain, but it would be nice if he could leave on somewhat more amicable terms.
I like these more action packed chapters. A bit less angst, a bit more plot development, as is common when writing Dwarves, I find. Of course I still love all the description that you manage to give, but it's none the worse for being mixed with the action.
Author's reply
Dwarves are a tough bunch, so I wouldn't worry much about Nain. I think Gandalf was on to something there. ;)
Anonymous
· 8 July 2004
· Chapter 37: The Thunder Rolls
Outstanding. Love the parallel/contrast between the two councils (elven and dwarven). Legolas is going to loose it when he hears about the lashes. I don't think elves would approve of such things but Thranduil might if he heard what happened. I am very interested to see how it ends.
Author's reply
Thanks. :)
Well, they might. After all, they've been known to employ even capital punishment, so I don't think a good beating for severe offences would be unthinkable, especially since they heal so well. They probably wouldn't have sentenced quite so much for this particular incident, but those are Dwarves for you. ;)
Joana
· 8 July 2004
· Chapter 36: Three Steps Back
Náin was that dwarvish beggar that Legolas and Gimli's mother met in the street wasn't it? What an idiot! When he was throwing the sparks at Legolas, I was afraid his hair might catch fire. And I had no idea the elf posessed a secret drawing tallent, though I should have guessed. So many qualities in just one creature! ;)
But I think it was really good that he wasn't carrying any weapons at the time because something worse might have happened if he had given into his battle instincts and attacked the dwarf! And I really love this bit: "... and he hated him with a passion" because there is a figure of speech that sounds really nice. "hate someone with passion" ---> very cool *note to self - use in future compositions*
And I take back everything I said about the little monkey! Now I just hope he gets all right.
Author's reply
Legolas is taking care of him, so I'm sure he'll be alright. :)
White Wolf
· 7 July 2004
· Chapter 36: Three Steps Back
Blood? I held my breath pretty much the way the dwarves did. I could easily picture the frozen silence, when it was realized that Legolas was injured. Ouch. That splinter will hurt coming out. Thorin will not be pleased indeed. I hope Legolas heals before he gets back home and says nothing of it, because if Thranduil finds out, not being pleased would be a gigantic understatement.
Author's reply
I think Legolas intends to keep the incident as quiet as he can. He only just managed to see his father favorably inclined toward the Dwarves, so he's not about to see all that work go to waste. ;)
Still, I imagine Thorin's plenty nervous about it all.
N. S. Tulkas
· 7 July 2004
· Chapter 36: Three Steps Back
OMG! The tension!
I like how the fight erupted, and strangely excluded Legolas. Before you said no dwarf meant physical harm to the elf or they would be disgraced, I thought it was Nain who hurled that "glint of sharp light" seeing as he was very intent on his sparks reaching as close to where Legolas sat before.
But that POOR monkey!
One question: why was Legolas *so* insulted by Nain's words that the world narrowed only to that dwarf and he hated him with a passion then? Calling him a weak-wristed faerie can sting, but why to such a degree?
Was that dwarf really going to hammer Gimli??
Wonderul chapter; loved the action! If only someone would film it now!
Author's reply
It kind of blew up in my face! I never planned half of that. I think Legolas' knee-jerk reaction probably had a lot to do with the demanding atmosphere and the "elfish hobgoblinry" bit. No Elf can stand to be called an Orc, you know. ;) And so far as that other dwarf is concerned, I'm not sure he knew just what he wanted to do with Gimli when he caught him, but he was the one who brought the Elf in the first place, after all.
lwarren
· 7 July 2004
· Chapter 36: Three Steps Back
uh-ohhhhh....I would imagine some very strict laws (about hospitality and the spilling of the blood...even just a wounded hand!...of a guest who had entered under the King's protection) had been broken in that little confrontation. It didn't take much for battle lines to be drawn, did it? And after the Elvenking had shown good faith by sending his son into the Mountain...what a smear on the very honor of the Dwarfs, a direct reflection on their King....no, I doubt that Thorin will be pleased at all with this development.
Nain - what a trouble-maker!...and a coward (honestly, sitting there pounding on his metal, throwing sparks as close to the elf as he could?)...and a jerk...and...words fail me! Well, maybe not...I'll bet he was the one who threw the ax....sounds like something cowardly he'd do to an UNARMED elf! A faerie..huh? JERK! (I don't like that dwarf, could ya tell? :-) *g*)
Poor Legolas, and Scatha...the elf minding his own business, drawing to his little creative heart's content, and the monkey perched on his shoulder and not really bothering any of the dwarfs....poor hand...pooooor tail! ouch!!!
I kinda figured if Three Steps Back was coming, some kind of violence would be perpetrated against the elf....you did a really fine job of creating more tension (once more in the heat and confines of the forge, I notice), while also building on Legolas' edgy state of mind, and then delivering just enough insults from "the jerk" to cause that emotional reaction from Legolas....after that, *vbg*, you just left the rest up to those lovable, argumentative, grouchy, I'm-gonna-crush-your-face dwarfs!!!
I do so love the way you layer the actions and emotions of the characters, chapter after chapter...it adds to the impact later when things blow up :-)... you can feel it building and building and building....I was ready to crawl under the table with Legolas by the time things started flying!!! ( hmmmmmmm, *g*)...Good stuff, Coriel!
linda
(All freshmen MUST be duly initiated into the chaos of that first year...but, I have a feeling you'll be fine! My selfish heart was relieved you would try not to forget WWYO! *g* I'm beginning to feel like G, musssst have the preciousssss....we wantssss it.....we needssssss it.....ah well, you get the picture, unfortunately....)
Author's reply
I'm sure the said battle lines were waiting just beneath the surface. Elves are a controversial subject in the Mountain. And I don't think anybody can stant this Nain person; his own cousin got a good laugh at his expense already, so it might be a good thing now if several self-respecting Dwarves don't care to be assoiciated with him and, *ergo*, act nicer.
(Hopefully the chaos will be a bit more contained at a little-bitty place like Christendom! I like to be able to see one end of the campus from the other, and if you can't it's because of the trees. ;) I'll give WWYO another plug before I go, if I can find time around my summer assignment to read The Iliad. I haven't even shown up yet, and already they send me homework!)
nat
· 6 July 2004
· Chapter 36: Three Steps Back
noooo not the monkey!!! ::sniff::sniff:: poor lil fella...but it was only his tail, right? he's gnna be ok, right? awww....it had to be the monkey...ooooh who was on the other end of that hatchet, hmm? someones gnna be in trouuuble...
Author's reply
I think the little guy will pull through alright, though neither he nor Legolas is very happy right now. And yeah, somebody's in a LOT of trouble when they finally find him. ;)
Lamiel
· 6 July 2004
· Chapter 36: Three Steps Back
Oh, poor Scatha! Oh no, oh no, I knew it was a bad idea for him to be hanging around the forges. Nasty bad things can happen there, even when you don't have a near-civil war on your hands.
Really, it would have been better for Legolas to draw his sketches at a safe remove - I suspect that the noise and heat may have contributed to his surprisingly short temper just before everything blew to kingdom come.
This was a great chapter - fast paced, with riveting action and description. The change of perspective between Gimli and Legolas was well done too. Oh, and I liked the sideways acknowledgement of the argument between Gimli's parents. Be grateful that a chair back was the only casualty.
Now I wonder if the hurt done to Thorin's pet will make him lay down the law and flatly forbid anyone from insulting Legolas - or at least from attacking him physically. I suspect that it's too much to ask for friendship with all the Dwarves - and Legolas himself, as open minded as he is, has demonstrated that it's difficult for Elves as well. Perhaps we must be content with a simple easing of hostilities, which might be easier if the parties meet on neutral ground. Legolas needs a good night's sleep in a forest. Even the Elves of Hollin and the Dwarves of Khazad-dum did not live with each other, after all.
I am so enjoying this portrayal of the real difficulties encountered when Legolas and Gimli bring their worlds together. It is very true to Tolkien's characters, and just what I might wish the Master had done himself.
Author's reply
Thanks. :)
By this point, Legolas is seriously considering giving Gimli his regrets and getting the heck out of there. And I really wouldn't blame him.