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No Man's Child  by anoriath 107 Review(s)
LarnerReviewed Chapter: 73 on 2/23/2020
Too much of policy; too little of emotion. Alas for Aragorn, Elinien, and Arwen all three. And for Halbarad, who sees too much of his kinsman's heart.

Author Reply: Yeah, I can't imagine how the Dúnedain of the North were so patient with Aragorn and his lack of wife and heir.

LarnerReviewed Chapter: 75 on 2/23/2020
Am glad especially to have the link to the lexicon dictionary. I love the etymology of language.

Author Reply: Isn't it fun? It was particularly helpful when I first started writing and needed to get a better sense of what words were generally appropriate to the time period.

LarnerReviewed Chapter: 68 on 2/23/2020
I can appreciate how and why he is so angry, and I am glad that Arwen has sent the banner after all. Now he knows grief as he heads to the death he partially foresees. But I certainly understand why she is not willing to see another child die in an internecine war.

Author Reply: Yeah, I had to give Halbarad the send-off he deserved. Loyal Halbarad, until the end.

LarnerReviewed Chapter: 67 on 2/19/2020
They are more sisters than either imagined, I see. Good to see them truly meeting one another at last, and finding that kinship.

Author Reply: Yep. No way I was going to make them rivals. :)

LarnerReviewed Chapter: 66 on 2/18/2020
At least she has unbent sufficiently to learn she has a friend as well as kinship with the Master of Rivendell, and he understands that she actually loves Aragorn well. And he has had the words of his own prophecy set before him by her, which must have been disconcerting.

And she knows now that she is not as alone as she'd thought.

Author Reply: Thanks Larner!

Yes, I can see all kinds of parallels between them. I really enjoyed writing this chapter, there's a stillness to Elrond that makes him a lovely character.

Raksha The DemonReviewed Chapter: 65 on 2/15/2020
I'm not sure why Nienelen was chosen to be Aragorn's bride in the first place if she is a physical throwback to some distant Umbari ancestors - as blameless and worthy as Nienelen is, would not her dark skin and eyes be seen as potentially problematic if she should pass those traits along, particularly given Aragorn's hope to eventually reclaim the throne of Gondor? Wouldn't it have been better to choose another young woman and never put Nienelen through this ordeal? Prejudice does exist in Middle-earth as in our world.

Now, with Nienelen's vow, there could be some hard times ahead for Gondor and Arnor due to Elenir's existence. I think if Nienelen is being short-sighted. If Aragorn divorces Nienelin, marries someone else and has fair-skinned kids; Elenir will still be a political liability. Either her father's descendants will kill hers; or the Umbari enemies of Gondor will seek out Elenir to capture and use as a royal pawn with which to claim sovereignty of Gondor. It would be best for Aragorn, if he becomes King of Gondor in this AU, to name Elenir his heir and marry her to a man of obvious Numenorean ancestry - a son of Dol Amroth or Ithilien. Or Aragorn could relinquish his claim on Gondor, rule the north as King of Arnor with Nienelen as his queen and Elenir as his successor. Arnor hasn't faced as many Haradrim incursions, its people would probably be more likely to accept Elenir as a future queen than would the people of Gondor.

Is there any chance that Elrond and his sons could heal Nienelen so she could have another child, hopefully a gray-eyed son?

This story looks like it's going to end very sadly.

Author Reply: I think, Raksha, these are all fascinating points.

Uhm, lets see.

I'm not sure why Nienelen was chosen to be Aragorn's bride in the first place if she is a physical throwback to some distant Umbari ancestors

I kinda complicated things in this universe for Aragorn. Arnor's not a given, anymore. He's got to think about how to keep them unified with what he's going to have to do to keep the Shire safe - which is what I implied when he and Nienelen were talking in their aborted sexual encounter before they left the Angle.

would not her dark skin and eyes be seen as potentially problematic if she should pass those traits along, particularly given Aragorn's hope to eventually reclaim the throne of Gondor

Yes, but given his life experience of seeing how it worked in Arnor, he had some hope of getting through that. That's different than her life experience, where she's seen what happens when things are under stress. I'm not sure what Aragorn would think if he had to live through the last year in the Angle - but, by that point, anyway, he had given up on his aspirations for Gondor.


I think if Nienelen is being short-sighted.

Yes, I agree. But, I think they're caught between a rock and a hard place, with no terribly good choices, and I just can't see how Nienelen as a character could put her daughter in jeopardy - not after what happened to her son.

btw: I think the complications of two lines of descent are pretty fascinating and would make for some interesting stories. I just wouldn't want to live them.


Or Aragorn could relinquish his claim on Gondor, rule the north as King of Arnor with Nienelen as his queen and Elenir as his successor.

I wonder, do you think Arnor would have much of a chance if it didn't receive support from a reunited kingdom?

Even if Gondor's finest younger sons and opportunists don't make their way north to increase the population there, the threat of a Gondorian army marching on whoever dared assault his people in the Arnor would be a huge benefit for their security.

Thanks Raksha :)

RobnrunReviewed Chapter: 65 on 2/10/2020
I'd been wondering how you would make this work. I've always been both intrigued and made uneasy by works that take Tolkien's 'high, grand, and remote' mythology and fit it into a more realistic world view. This has been a very interesting read, I'm glad that you have stuck with it!

Author Reply: Thanks Robnrun. I'm glad to hear that you found it interesting. :)

LarnerReviewed Chapter: 65 on 2/9/2020
Now, this turn of events I did not imagine. It is a grief for her, but even more so for him, to know she anticipates that their daughter will suffer mightily for it if he does not take a different wife on whom to beget a rightful heir.

Author Reply: Yeah, what can I say.

Given Gondor's history of the Kinstrife as written by Tolkien and the attitudes he has even some of their most self-reflective and wise leaders express, the risk is starkly real. And it's a question of what is okay to ask someone to risk.... how far until we've crossed into the boundary of immorality.

Thanks Larner. I've enjoyed watching you binge-read. :)

LarnerReviewed Chapter: 64 on 2/9/2020
Years of wisdom and experience. Time indeed to learn from her rival, I think.

Author Reply: Yep, there he goes again, being all wise and giving people a kick in the pants when they need it.

Time indeed to learn from her rival, I think.

Juuuuusssttt miiiight beeee... prettttttty soooooon. XD

LarnerReviewed Chapter: 63 on 2/9/2020
It is two peoples he must unite now.

Love the dancing of the child as she resumes her place as Aragorn's daughter, and as she sees him crowned, and as he in turn crowns her mother. Elenien will have her place in the new order, once it comes.

Author Reply: Love the dancing of the child as she resumes her place as Aragorn's daughter

Thanks Larner. :)

She really is all kinds of fun to write, particularly now that she is feeling more secure and can go out there and feel safe to explore all kinds of things.

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