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| It Takes a Took by Dreamflower | 348 Review(s) |
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| Bodkin | Reviewed Chapter: 2 on 10/19/2004 |
| I've just been hit by another saying that could almost fit the title! 'It takes a Took to tango.' Author Reply: LOL! Do they tango in the Shire? Hmm... | |
| Pipwise Brandygin | Reviewed Chapter: 2 on 10/19/2004 |
| Oooh, this is wonderful! I've been hoping you'd write something like this ever since you introduced Diamond in one of your challenge stories, and this is just fantastic. I love your anxious Merry, and brave Pippin, and the moment when he woke up and saw Diamond was so sweet. I like very much that the healer wants none of it! I hope there will be lots more chapters to come! :-) Author Reply: Glad to be of service! The waking up scene was the first part of the plot bunny to strike, so I'm happy that you enjoyed it. Healers are *busy*--they mostly don't think they have *time* for romance. I'm not exactly sure how many chapters there will be yet. I used to try and predict, but after "A New Reckoning" turned out at 72 chapters, when I had planned for 20, I gave up trying to guess. | |
| FantasyFan | Reviewed Chapter: 2 on 10/19/2004 |
| First, let me say I'm enjoying this fic, and I like the way it continues the relationships and situations set out in the aerlier stories. I think Pippin and Diamond are likely about 6th cousins, which means there are seven generations back until a common ancestor. (Your first cousin is two generations back to a common ancestor, your granparents). But not removed: that means there are differences in generations. Your first cousin's children are your first cousins once removed. Your children and they would be second cousins, but not removed (same generation). Of course, there is no way to tell if Pippin and Diamond are exactly the same generation, since her geneology is not listed, but if not they would probably be no more than once or twice at the most removed. Since Paladin is not being extremely precise, I would probably have him call Diamond a sixth cousin and leave it at that. Author Reply: Thanks for the information. I will probably go back and edit that shortly, to reflect the relationship more accurately. | |
| Bodkin | Reviewed Chapter: 2 on 10/19/2004 |
| That's it - warn them off each other. I can't think of anything more likely to stimulate their interest! Author Reply: Well, Paladin is not so much warning Pip off as he is cautioning him that his interest might not be returned very easily. Medical students *don't* have a lot of time for romance, after all. But Lavender *is* warning Diamond off--she is concerned about the whole patient/healer ethic, as well as not wanting her apprentice distracted. She may have been a bit premature, as until her mistress said something, the idea had not occurred to Diamond--nothing like putting ideas in her head to get just the opposite effect, LOL! | |
| eiluj | Reviewed Chapter: 2 on 10/19/2004 |
| I rarely review, but I do love all your stories, and am looking forward to the rest of this one. I see that no one has yet commented on the degree of relationship between Pippin and Diamond, so I will try to. [Apologies if you have already received fifty much clearer private emails about this!] We have the Took family tree in Appendix C. As far as I know, we do not have anything more for the North-tooks. Peregrin and Diamond’s most recent mutual ancestor is Isumbras III, Bandobras’s father. Pippin is 7 generations after Isumbras III. Diamond is descended from Bandobras, but we have no idea how many generations later. There might be more generations from Isumbras III to Diamond than from Isumbras III to Pippin, or there might be fewer. Let’s assume for the moment that there are the same number of generations for Diamond as for Pippin. This is just to make it easier. Isumbras III’s sons Ferumbras II (Pip’s ancestor) and Bandobras (Diamond’s ancestor) were brothers. Ferumbras II’s son Fortinbras I and Bandobras’s son were first cousins (they shared the same grandfather). Fortinbras I’s son Gerontius, the Old Took, and Bandobras’s grandson were second cousins (same great-grandfather). Gerontius’s son Hildigrim and Bandobras’s great-grandson were third cousins (same great-great-grandfather). Hildigrim’s son Adalgrim and Bandobras’s great-great-grandson were fourth cousins (same great-great-great-grandfather). Adalgrim’s son Paladin II and Bandobras’s great-great-great-grandson were fifth cousins (same great-great-great-great-grandfather). Paladin’s son Peregrin and Bandobras’s great-great-great-great-granddaughter Diamond are sixth cousins (same great-great-great-great-great-grandfather). In the above version, Peregrin and Diamond are in the same generation, therefore there are *no removes* in their relationship. Suppose there were *more* generations between Bandobras and Diamond than between Ferumbras II and Pippin. If there was *one* more generation, then Pippin and Diamond are sixth cousins *once removed* (i.e., one generation removed, one generation away). If there were two more generations, then Pippin and Diamond were sixth cousins twice removed. If three generations more, sixth cousins three times removed. Et cetera. If instead of more generations, there were *fewer* generations between Bandobras and Diamond than there were between Ferumbras II and Pippin, then it’s a bit more complicated. First we need to find out what generation Diamond is in. Is she in Paladin’s generation (one generation away from Pippin)? If so, we look at the relationship between Paladin and the North-tooks of his generation: same as the list above: they were fifth cousins. So Paladin and Diamond would have been fifth cousins, and Pippin is one generation removed from Paladin. So Pippin and Diamond would have been fifth cousins *once removed*. If Diamond had been another generation earlier, she would have been Adalgrim’s contemporary: they would have been fourth cousins. And Pippin is two generations removed from his grandfather. So Pippin and Diamond would have been fourth cousins twice removed. Hope this helps…. Author Reply: Thank you so much! You are the only one so far to address the issue--I will definitely re-examine the relationship in the light of your information. I realize now that I should have counted all the way back to Isumbras III instead of just to his sons, but the other bits about removes I am still a bit shaky on. Check this chapter back in a day or so. I'll make a change, and give you the credit! | |
| Kitty | Reviewed Chapter: 2 on 10/18/2004 |
| This will be interesting with Pippin in love with Diamond and Diamond reminded to be a healer only. And Pippin so embarassed about his needs. Males, indeed! *grins* In this chapter I loved especially the little scene with Pippin and Paladin. It seems they have mended the rift between them - this was so much better than their strained relationship after Pippin returned from the Quest. And I was quite amused about Pippins reason for his interest in healers. But he is right, I think. Can't wait for more! Author Reply: Well, we can't let the course of true love run too smoothly now, can we? LOL! And so far, Diamond really has no interest beyond being a healer. Guys *do* tend to get embarassed about things like that, but his father was there to help. Pippin and his father have mended the rift now. Pippin's timing when he left on the Quest was very painful--his tweens were very rough on the two of them--and so his return was difficult. But they had a good solid relationship when Pippin was a child; it just took a little while to readjust. And I thought Pippin might find the attitudes of most lasses of his own age and station to be a bit shallow. But a lass who was intent on becoming a healer (one of the few professions open to hobbit females in my version of the Shire) would definitely have a more serious outlook on life. After what he experienced during the War, he would not have much patience for flightiness. | |
| Ariel | Reviewed Chapter: 2 on 10/18/2004 |
| Yes, well, I always have had a weakness for hurt/comfort - and if it isn't Frodo, it'll most likely be Pip I'm reading about. LOL! Nicely done. Author Reply: Well, I have to admit, I like a bit of h/c as well, as long as it doesn't get *too* angsty. And Pip lends himself to it very well doesn't he? | |
| Merry_the_Hobbit | Reviewed Chapter: 1 on 10/18/2004 |
| WOW... this is a neat idea. I hope it doesn't take you too long to continue it! I am very anxious for Pippin! Author Reply: Thanks! I'm glad you like it so far! And don't worry *too* much about him--I would *never* let anything *permanently* nasty happen to any of our four heroes! | |
| SharonB | Reviewed Chapter: 1 on 10/18/2004 |
| Ah, so we are proceeding after a New Reckoning. And that North Took is going to be taking care of Pippin in more than one way. ;-) A good start to another story. I see that Pip certaily has grown up while away. Instead of whining and moaning while trapped he remembers how he was taught to help control the pain. I imagine that he could have been a bit of a pain as the pampered young son after all those girls. But to reach above that really shows his growth. And he and Merry really are connected for Merry to sense somthing was wrong. I'm anxiously awaiting more. Author Reply: Pippin did indeed grow a great deal. Simply knowing that he has survived worse in the past would help to give him a bit of perspective. I am sure that he was spoiled and pampered as a young child--by his parents, his sisters and his cousins. But I feel that it never spoiled his loving and generous nature, though he might have come to take a few things for granted. He certainly got over that during the Quest! Merry and Pippin are very intuitive about one another. I'm glad you're enjoying it so far! Thanks for the review! | |
| Kitty | Reviewed Chapter: 1 on 10/18/2004 |
| Poor Pippin, has he not suffered enough broken bones at Cormallen? ;-) It is so much like Pippin, to save his brother-in-laws without thinking about his own safety. Just the same as at Cormallen with Artamir and Adrahil. But it is a very nice idea how to introduce him to Diamond and have them spend time together. Maybe she is able to tame this horrible patient! And I love the bit about Merry being nervous without obvious reason. It shows how close they are. Author Reply: LOL! When I started asking my husband about broken legs (he's a nurse, so handy for picking his brains) he asked who it was for, and when I told him, he said very nearly the same thing, and then asked me what poor Pippin ever did to me!! I think that the circumstances will definitely give them time together. Merry and Pippin are very connected, I think, and so intuitive about one another. | |