Elf, Interrupted: Book Two: Glorfindel's Quest by Fiondil

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Kitty · 12 April 2009 · Chapter 53: Clearwater Glade

Poor Glorfindel, he must be hurting quite bad. But of course he will be okay again soon - I doubt Námo would want to have him anywhere near his Halls again ;) Oh, that was why the Maiar didn't sense the attack earlier than Glorfindel did? I have to admit that I find it somehow touching that they wanted to be on the same level as he was. Even if I'm not so happy about the outcome. But maybe then they will appreciate him (and the other Elves) more, particularly Lisselindë. The ellon smiled weakly. "I attacked a balrog," he said in a hoarse whisper, his voice laced with pain. "What else would you expect from me?" How true! Námo can't in earnest expect Glorfindel to just stand by and watch the Maiar fighting, can he? Glorfindel is no court scribe, but a consummate warrior, after all. Hm ... Oromë had an interesting way to explain to the Maiar why Glorfindel needs to take care of himself and his security. Though I doubt Glorfindel would expect them to play babysitter in Endórë, too; he should know that he has to survive on his own there. Loved the banter between the Maiar. I really like these three - yes, I'm even beginning to like Lisselindë! And I would like to be a fly in a tree while these four are sitting together around the fire talking; these nights must be great! I can see that Glorfindel and Ecthelion made sure that Turgon didn't get bored in his isolated city ;) Well, that would be intriguing, Glorfindel learning to fight more on Maiar level than his own! And I'm sure the four other Maiar will have fun with that, too. Plus, I have to admit, I'm not entirely comfortable with the idea of Arafinwë going to Tol Eressëa, either, and I would feel better if a thusly trained Glorfindel would accompany him. On the other hand, I had always looked forward to learn how things will be going on there. More interesting plot to look forward to *rubs hands in anticipation* Frohe Ostern! :)

Author's reply

Glorfindel is nothing if not the consummate warrior, so they shouldn't expect anything less than that from him in any situation. I'm glad you're beginning to like Lisselindë. She's not really a bad sort, just misguided. Between her fellow Maiar and Glorfindel, though, she's slowly coming around. I think Glorfindel's enhanced fighting skills are going to be need sooner rather than later myself. I'm glad you're looking forward to the royal progress through Tol Eressëa. I doubt it will go as smoothly as everyone hopes and there will be one or two surprises along the way as well. Thanks for reviewing, Kitty. I hope you have a 'Frohe Ostern' too. *grin*

Larner · 7 April 2009 · Chapter 52: Hunting Evil

Beautiful chapter. And he was the first to realize some of the monsters were in ambush, eh? A bit more alert this time than the Maiar! Nice! Now to see what he wakes to.

Author's reply

Thanks Larner. I'm pleased that you found this such a beautiful chapter. We'll find out in the next chapter why Glorfindel was more alert than the Maiar and just how serious his injuries are.

Fantasia · 6 April 2009 · Chapter 52: Hunting Evil

Poor Glorfindel, not even with suppreme company he is safe, the Maiars are going to feel so guilty about this, and I like the interaction betweem Glorfindel and Lisselindë, she was very good with her lessons. Love the detail of the center of Arda, it reminds me of my home country, we had a Capitol (just a copy of the USA Capitol, when we were a newborn Republic)and in the building there was a diamond (I suppose that is long gone) that marked the zero Km of the Central Highway (this was done in the 1920's, previously in the colony times, was called the Royal Road, as it was the highway that cover the whole island)You just can step over the diamond (it was built-in on the floor) and say, Hey I'm in the beginning of the road!..Anyway, just imagine Glorfindel shooting Hey! I'm in the middle of Arda... Thanks

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Hi Fantasia. Your description of the diamond marking the 0 Km point is very interesting. The meneldëa coron I suppose could act like the 0 longitude at Greenwich, England from which all other longitudes are measured, though once Valinor is removed from Arda that becomes moot. I think Lisselindë is beginning to get Glorfindel's measure and realizing that there's more there than she suspected. Until now, all she saw was an erratically acting Reborn. His true character is coming to the surface more and more and now she's seeing him in a different light. And I think Glorfindel is seeing Lisselindë in a different and more positive light as well. They are fast becoming friends.

Hel · 6 April 2009 · Chapter 52: Hunting Evil

Looks like Glorfindel isn´t the only one who need training in sensing evil... How could some bear-wargs, even if they are smart animals, trick several Maia who know that they are near? Maybe they should less talk and concentrate more on the hunt. I like the part about the middle-point of Valinor. And the meneldëa coron sounds great. I like it, that it shows the world at that moment and not at some point in the past. And the elves in Valinor, who knows about it can always see if something in middle-earth changes. And about Glorfindel´s talk with Orome: I think everyone likes to think that things have a purpose exspecially if something bad happens.

Author's reply

Hi Hel. We'll find out next week why the Maiar were 'tricked'. I'm glad you liked the meneldëa coron and the fact that the globe changes to reflect present circumstances. I think that realization unnerved Glorfindel more than anything else. And you're right, of course, we all hope that there's a reason for the bad stuff just as we're happy enough with the good stuff in our lives. And as Oromë points out the Valar are no different, though they probably have a better sense of the whys and wherefores than we do.

Tari · 6 April 2009 · Chapter 52: Hunting Evil

What a chapter this is. It started out so good with Glorfindel fine tuning his talent. I doubt many other of the Elves are able to sense danger as he does. That being said, how did he miss the evil creature sneaking up on them. I'm sure the Maia could have just disappeared, but Glorfindel was trapped. He is seriously hurt and we are left hanging till next week. Mae Govannen

Author's reply

Hi Tari. Glorfindel is indeed fine tuning his talent but he's still just learning and he hasn't been able to separate out individual creatures. Even though the pack has separated they were close enough in proximity that Glorfindel simply 'saw' one blot of darkness. And as to why the Maiar did not sense the creatures, that will be revealed in the next chapter. At least you only have to wait a week to find out what happened (rather like watching a TV serial) rather than months! *grin*

Agape4Gondor · 5 April 2009 · Chapter 52: Hunting Evil

Oh good grief - another thing for 'the' t-shirt! 'That is what you must do as well, learn to be joyful even in the midst of the sorrows and confusions of your life, for that is what will sustain you in your darkest hours." YOU are a total scalawag!!!! Nice cliffhanger, Oh Prince of Cliffhangers!!!

Author's reply

Hey! At least people will have something interesting to read while standing in line at the bank! *LOL* I'm glad you liked the cliffhanger as well. *grin*

Radbooks · 5 April 2009 · Chapter 52: Hunting Evil

It was nice to come home to find all of these chapters to read! I really enjoyed these chapters of Glorfindel going out and learning how to hunt out evil and starting to find out more and more about himself and what he needs to know for his return to ME - even if he doesn't know that's why he's learning it. :) I liked the part in this chapter when Orome mentions about finding joy in whatever circumstances you're in (something like that!) - it's so true and it was a nice connection to the Glorfindel we see later. I really liked finding out even more about his past... his family, even as I was horrified by it all. How devastating that is for him to remember, well to have gone through and now to have it brought back to mind. I loved the scene on the beach of him fixing dinner for Nienna and then having Ulmo show up as well. Anyway, it's all been much enjoyed and appreciated even if I have done a lousy job of letting you know. :( Thanks so much.

Author's reply

Hi Radbooks. I'm glad you've been enjoying these last few chapters. Thanks for letting me know. Your paraphrase of Oromë's words is just fine and probably easier to remember. *grin* Eventually Glorfindel will learn the why of his training, but he's not yet ready for that bit of news yet. And even if he were never to return to Middle-earth, learning these skills would be just as useful in Aman. I suspect that Glorfindel is a kind of test-case for the Valar. If they are successful with him in his training then perhaps other elves with similar gifts could also be trained but for the benefit of Aman rather than for Middle-earth. While the Valar do not know when the Final Battle will begin, I think they are already thinking about preparing the elves for it.

Kitty · 5 April 2009 · Chapter 52: Hunting Evil

This meneldëa coron is amazing; I’d like to see that with my own eyes! And to think how old it has to be ... not to mention that it was adjusted after the loss of Beleriand. Fascinating to know what Glorfindel is learning – feeling the Song of Arda and the correct direction of any presence of evil. Certainly he will learn to distinct these presences over time, too. Oh – now they are being attacked from behind! I wonder why not at least the Maiar realised it? Tiutalion’s unfinished remark somehow doesn’t sound like it’s asked just for Glorfindel. Did again a Vala block their senses? Though I don’t truly see any reason for it. Our dear Glorfindel did very well, slaying two of these beasts, and the second one even when he was already injured! And now you have hurt poor Glorfindel again and are leaving us with yet another evil cliffhanger! *hugs Glorfindel protectively*

Author's reply

I'm glad you liked the armillary sphere, Kitty. I had fun 'designing' it. We'll find out in the next chapter why the Maiar were as much taken by surprise as Glorfindel at the attack. A harsh but necessary lesson for all. And it's not too evil a cliffhanger, because we already know that he doesn't die, don't we? *grin*

Kitty · 5 April 2009 · Chapter 51: Taurevayari

Glorfindel is doing quite well, I think, in coming to terms with his behaviour the day before. The situation can’t be easy for him. Hm ... Oromë is probably right in why Glorfindel was so badly affected by this particular memory. It must have been the first huge impact on his life. Oh yes, I can imagine that particularly the Sindar and Nandor would feel at home in these woods. And having to keep an eye on these monsters might tickle the former warriors, too. *lol* So Glorfindel was just following his nose in the end? Of course, that was a much better guide than anything else! That Rangers post is intriguing. Though I don’t like heights, I’d love to see and explore such a flet myself. The end of the chapter was surprising. These monsters are making their way to a place 14 leagues away, and Glorfindel can already sense them? That’s certainly a much wider range than I expected, and I think the Maiar will be surprised to learn that, too.

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Even though he has had the memory of his parents' death before, the little things that, separately would not have meant anything, together just brought it all back, so it was like experiencing the memory all over again. I'm sure it's one that he wishes he never remembered. The experience itself must have colored much of his emotions and perceptions thereafter. I'm sure that Oromë is looking forward to the day when he will be permitted by Manwë to... er... recruit some of the Sindar and Nandor for his Forest. *grin* And I imagine that the lands beyond the mountains will be even more to the Elves' liking, since the creatures are more plentiful there and they wouldn't have to wait for any to come over the mountains to hunt them. Glorfindel is full of surprises and the Maiar and Valar keep underestimating him.

6336 · 5 April 2009 · Chapter 52: Hunting Evil

Oops! Somebody wasn't paying attention were they!? Sneaky critters! Hope Glorfindel will be alright, I don't think Irmo will be to happy to have him back in Lorien in his condition! Lissalinds seems to be a little less acerbic this time around, Glorfindel is already fine tuning his sense of evil. One forgets just how long Arda has been around, I know a little of how Glorfindel feels, I can't belive the orclings are four years old, it seems like only last week they were little pink, squirmy things! More please, Lynda

Author's reply

We'll find out next chapter how seriously hurt Glorfindel is and why the Maiar were taken by surprise. At the time in which this story takes place, 15,464 solar years have passed since the founding of Valinor and the creation of the Two Trees (and presumably the armillary sphere created by Aulë). More than enough time for a forest to spread from its original planting and surround the platform.

Kaylee · 5 April 2009 · Chapter 52: Hunting Evil

Meldonya! I got my review thing to work again! *grin* Yay! Anyway, this is a very intriguing chapter (and a cliffie! Glorfi's hurt by that...that THING! *tries to pull Glorfi out from under that thing*) It is also Rhyselle and Edlyn's Begetting Day gift, isn't it? *lol* or just well-timed? ^_^ I think the astrolabe-thing is pretty ^_^ It amazes me that the forest grew up around it! Tye-melin, meldonya! ~Kaylee!

Author's reply

This chapter wasn't planned as a begetting day gift for Rhyselle and Edlyn, so it was just well-timed. *grin* Glad you like the armillary sphere. It's been there for a very long time, so yes the forest grew around it. Probably deliberately so. I get the feeling that few if any of the Eldar know of it or it's real purpose.

Sunny · 5 April 2009 · Chapter 52: Hunting Evil

I suppose that when Glorfindel has perfected the listening-to-the-song-of-Arda, it will function like having a GPS unit always available. Another useful little thing. I suspected Murphy would poke his nose in! The hunters have become the hunted! Glorfindel didn’t do badly at all. He has accounted for two of the creatures. Perhaps the things were concentrating on him, somehow perceiving that he was the most vulnerable of their opponents. I don’t suppose Glorfindel will be an easy patient. But even he will have to wait to go looking for more trouble until whatever injuries he has sustained have healed. But _these_ injuries are at least plain physical ones, so hopefully he will have little holiday from emotional shocks. (Not the best way to go about it, I think, but whatever works…)

Author's reply

We will learn in the next chapter just why the Maiar failed to realize what was going on until it was almost too late and what the extent of Glorfindel's injuries are. And no, Glorfindel didn't do too badly at all, all things considered.

6336 · 3 April 2009 · Chapter 51: Taurevayari

Hm, looks like Glorfindel has more of a range than was first thought, 14 leagues is quite a distance, over 40 miles, even if it is just a sense of evil! Glad Glorfindel was able to get his feelings sorted out, it must be disconcerting to have memories come out of no where to assualt him as it were! Liked your idea of the redwood lodge, don't think they grow them quite that big here, but they do get pretty tall and old! Trust Glorfindel to follow his nose, never stand between a warrior and food, they are as bad as Hobbits in that respect! More please, Lynda

Author's reply

I think the Valar and Maiar are again underestimating Glorfindel. Námo keeps telling his fellow Valar that the fëar of the Reborn seem to exist on a different frequency than those of the Once-born and I don't think even he understands the full ramifications of that. As for the redwoods... they are not exactly like the redwoods of Northern California, though I modeled the ones in Oromë's Forest on them.

6336 · 3 April 2009 · Chapter 50: Dark Memory

It can take just the smallest thing to trigger a memory, a word, a turn of phrase, an image and it all comes back. Poor Glorfi, what a memory! Did his father even know what he had done, or was he so lost in Battle Rage that he did not know, just another enemy to defeat. Nobody deserves to be a Thrall of Morgoth. Hopefully both his Atar and Ammille will be there to greet Glorfindel when he returns from Middle Earth. Love is a form of selective blindness! More please, Lynda

Author's reply

Námo tells Glorfindel that when his father finally came to him after his death he could not accept that he had killed his wife. I suspect that in his madness he never knew who he had killed and probably assumed she was still alive somewhere, living with Glorfindel, who had disappeared along with Turgon into Gondolin. It will be hoped that all three of them will find healing and acceptance for what happened. I think Glorfindel and his father will have the most difficulty coming to terms with that memory since his mother readily forgave her husband.

Sitara · 1 April 2009 · Chapter 51: Taurevayari

I may be irritating, but I cannot stop thinking about the purpose of Glorfindel's training. I know, there could be more than just one purpose, but the first image crossing my mind is the night when one Ranger and four frightened hobbits had met on the road to Imladris an Elf riding on a mighty white horse. Glorfindel was then able to recognize the Morgul blade used on Frodo and was very much aware of the approaching Ringwraiths. I'm sure it wasn't the only occasion for him to put to good use his training but this one is canon. Well, I know it has little to do with the story, but I always wondered how some fallen Men were made to be even more terrifying than fallen Maiar and why Glorfindel seemingly would have prefered to deal with a Balrog or two rather than with these Ringwraiths. I appreciate your attention for details, as in describing Glorfindel's training with Nyereser. The Noldor living in the forest , as Orome's apprentices, are certainly a surprise, but not an unpleasant one. I only hope they wouldn't have to look for new jobs, as soon as the Nandor and Sindar will be permitted to move out of Tol Eressea. "lopsided grin" . Very nice was also Lisselinde's interaction with Palarran and his wife; she's doing well enough, after all. The less pleasant thing was the little cliffhanger ending the chapter. But, for seeing Glorfindel hotly defending his supposedly hated Atar, I think I'll have enough patience to wait for the next update, in order to find out what has Glorfindel sensed.

Author's reply

Tolkien does say in one of his later writings when discussing Glorfindel that he spent much of his time learning from the Maiar before being sent back to Middle-earth, so here we see the beginning of that training that will stand him in good stead against the Nazgûl and other nasties. Granted, there may be other reasons for his training, but certainly training him for what he might encounter in Middle-earth will be a primary consideration. I'm sure that Oromë's Forest is large enough to accommodate many more Elves than presently inhabit it and there are other forests beyond the mountains that might do as well. Only a small part of the continent of Valinor has actually been settled and when those of Tol Eressëa are ready to move to the mainland they will find room and to spare for all. We tend to equate the Sindar and Nandor as being primarily Wood-Elves but that is an accident of geography and history more than anything else, considering that the Teleri who were part of the same clan as the Sindar have fallen in love with the Sea and have created a maritime culture in Alqualondë, not to mention Círdan and those Elves who followed him. There is nothing genetic (as far as I can tell) that says this group or that group of Elves will be this or that. So, while most Noldor are into science and the Vanyar seem to be more into the poetic arts, that is not to say that individual Noldor and Vanyar will not find other callings and other interests and the same would hold true for the Teleri as well. Hence, Palarran and Amauriel forsaking Tirion for Oromë's Forests to become Rangers.

Sunny · 31 March 2009 · Chapter 51: Taurevayari

When Glorfindel goes off on a tesseract, life gets sooo _interesting_ for everybody in the vicinty. This times it was the Maiar in his company who gained the benefit – or something – of this effect. Although I am certain that Lisselindë, at least, at one point in the previous chapter was contemplating the benefits of boredom. ;-) In spite of the Life-getting-_Interesting_ effect, the Maiar seem undeterred. Though obviously Glorfindel’s reaction wasn’t something he was able to control. I very much liked the little scene of Glorfindel apologizing for his behaviour the previous day, and the answer Nyéreser gave for all the Maiar. I expect the carnitavari were _Sequoiadendron giganteum_, just given a Quenya name. And I expect Beleg would love those trees. It wouldn’t surprise me to hear, once he discovers them, that it would take a command from the Valar to pry him out of the forest again. And the same with the Sindar and Nandor currently on Tol Eressëa – once they are allowed to move to the mainland. *smirks* Of course, following one’s nose in going “home” can be quite effective. Especially close to supper. (What _did_ they use to spice the Stew – or is this a Management secret?) *smirk grows larger* Why do I get the feeling that the Maiar are going to get surprised in the next chapter? It is obvious that he already knows _where_ (more or less) he is going on the morrow. He can feel the evil like a cloud against the sun, and I expect he will home in on it like a bee homes in on honey-bearing flowers in the next chapter. It wouldn’t surprise me to see “interesting” popping up again then, too. With the hints about the possible origins of these creatures, it wouldn’t surprise me if Murphy pokes his nose in here and presents Glorfindel with a critter with a more-than-average amount of umaiarish genes. Or something with more-than-average amount of Melkor-inspired gengineering. Or a combination of the two. Or something else might happen to make things more Interesting. (And wasn’t there a complaint about not knowing how those cat-things got as far as Nienna’s house?) It seems that _Interesting_ is my Word of the Day. In particular, the flavour of the word so beloved of SF and Fantasy authors; what is described as an ancient Chinese curse: “May your life be _interesting_.” I don’t know if there is a _real_ Chinese curse like this, or if it is something invented by an author. Whatever the origin, this “Ancient Chinese Curse” has become an amazingly popular meme in the SF and Fantasy fields! And it somehow fits Glorfindel’s adventures well. ;-)

Author's reply

I don't know if it's a real Chinese curse or not, though having been to China I can believe it. We'll see in the next chapter what kind of creatures they are hunting and what happens when they are found. I suppose Glorfindel gives new meaning to the word _interesting_, doesn't he? *grin*

Agape4Gondor · 31 March 2009 · Chapter 51: Taurevayari

A beautiful chapter - especially after the last one was so horrific and sad. I found a peace and beauty - even knowing the 'task' ahead for our hero - yet, the beauty of the forest, the people who loved it, and the obedience of Glorfindel were touching.... I remember reading somewhere - sometime - that Glorfindel, when he came back to Middle-earth, possessed so many gifts that he even rivaled the Maiar. I can't remember where I read this - but if the dear Elf suffered so, and yet, through it all, kept that flame of passion alive..... Wow... And to think that the Valar so valued that flame - Thank you for writing this - the whole thing - it has been an experience - life-changing almost - definitely thought provoking. Let nothing stop you, dear Fiondil, from taking your place as one of the great writers.... Blessings, Agape

Author's reply

I'm glad you found this to be a peaceful chapter, Agape. I figured everyone needed a break from the last one. *grin* Tolkien does say somewhere that Glorfindel spent much of his time after he was reborn learning from the Maiar so that he was nearly like them in power. And now you're making me blush with your high praise. Thank you for your support and encouragement. I appreciate it more than you can know.

Aiwen · 31 March 2009 · Chapter 51: Taurevayari

I thought they sounded like redwoods... I am enjoying seeing Glorfindel heading towards his return to Middle-earth. I wish JRR Tolkien had told us a little more about precisely what he did in Middle-earth during the second age.

Author's reply

It would have been nice if Tolkien had given us a bit more about Glorfindel's life than he did, but this way, we at least can have fun imagining what it was like, which is how this particular tale of his time in Aman came about. *grin*

Tari · 31 March 2009 · Chapter 51: Taurevayari

It appears Glorfinel’s senses are much stronger then he knows. That is what saved him from falling into a deep hole and probable sustaining serious injuries; something he doesn’t need at this time. Already he senses evil in the far east. Good for him. I think he will be a quick study.

Author's reply

I think Glorfindel will be a quick study as well, Tari. He never seems to fall into the expected categories that the Maiar and Valar place other elves, does he? *grin*

Larner · 30 March 2009 · Chapter 51: Taurevayari

An interesting training, and one I can appreciate from my own. I, too, have used olfactory feedback as well as auditory cues to correct my path while under blindfold. That was nicely done, as well as the mention of the hole he blithely remained ignorant of. I love the description of the treetop home for these rangers. Now, he feels the evil there already! It will be interesting watching him learn to use these skills.

Author's reply

Hi, Larner. I've never undergone such training myself, though I'm aware of it. I'm glad you loved the description of the treegard. We'll see in the next chapter how things turn out.

Hel · 30 March 2009 · Chapter 51: Taurevayari

That up-date was fast. I hadn´t even time to comment the last chapter. No wonder that Glorfindel had such a bad day. From all the horrible things that happened in his life, the murdering of one parent by the other must be the worse. And I think another factor is, that he is in some kind of second puberty. The woods sound great. And Noldor living as Woodelves, who would have thought. But Glorfindel is right in thinking that the Silvan and Nandor would love this place and would be more than happy to live there. And I think as soon as they know about it and are alowed to leave Tol Eressa a lot will move there. Will we learn more about the elves who serve Lord Orome? I hope so. They sound very interesting. I´m a bit surprised that Glorfindel can feel the evil from this distance. Nyéreser sounds like he expects Glordindel feeling them only at a much shorter distance. Or did I get that wrong? The next chapter will hopefully give some answers. One could get used to the short up-date-intervals.

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I'm not sure he is in some kind of second puberty except possibly emotionally, but certainly his emotional immaturity must play a part in his responses to things, especially to his memories. I think Noldor and Vanyar and even a few of the Teleri live in the Forest serving Oromë. After all, the Sindar and Nandor are woodelves mainly because of geography and history. I'm sure that once they are permitted to leave Tol Eressëa many of them will apply for positions as rangers. *grin* As to whether we learn more about these rangers depends on the Muse. Perhaps they will show up in other tales. I'm glad you find them fascinating. I do as well. I think the Valar and Maiar may be underestimating Glorfindel's abilities, although, I suspect that having been exposed to evil in ways that most Amanian elves have not, has sensitized him more than most. Next chapter will be the actual hunt. Thanks for reviewing, Hel. I appreciate your comments and I'm glad you are still enjoying this tale.

Sitara · 30 March 2009 · Chapter 50: Dark Memory

I know how it may sound, but even so I have to confess that, since Glorfindel's fight with those three Maiar warriors, I somewhat shared Lisselinde's opinion and growing frustration in regard to Glorfindel's puzzling behaviour. I thought that the poor Maia truly wanted to understand the Firstborn's ways and manner of thinking, she tried her best in Lorien, only to see herself abruptly ordered around, without so much as an explanation. I remember I even wanted to point out that Aman is not Gondolin under siege and Glorfindel is not Lisselinde's commanding officer. And now this! Another outburst, directed at the Maiar who never displayed towards him anything but understanding and kindness, Tiutalion and Nyereser, I mean. My annoyance with Glorfindel had become at that point pure enragement, I must confess, to my shame. What transpired this chapter about Glorfindel and his parents made me shut my mouth and bow my head in shame. And not on my account only. What happened then with Glorfindel's parents and no doubt with many others at Alqualonde and beyond is inexcusable. No reason can be offered for this, none. So, hanging my head in shame, I will heartily apologize to Glorfindel for being so quick to judge him, despite the fact that I should have known better. Forgive me for this rant, but I felt (and probably I was wrong) that it was necessary. At least for me. As in regard to Glorfindel' state of mind..I assume he had to face this memory during his Judgement as well. Taking this into account, I won't say it should have been healed by now, but I would have expected to have a lesser impact on Glorfindel. But still, a minor thing was able to trigger this dreadful issue, which in my opinion is as important as his issue regarding the oath given to Turgon. And, as he will feel his oath fulfilled only the day when the ship bearing the last descendants of Turgon (I'm not counting Arwen) will reach Aman, I think Glorfindel's issue with his parents will be put to rest only the day when they will both stand before him. As the things are looking right now, it seems that Glorfindel still has a long way to go before he'd be able to forgive his parents. Both of them, in my opinion. Instead of returning to her son, his mother chose to stay with the one who killed her! I cannot bring myself to blame Glorfindel for thinking this way or for the words he has spoken, hearing about his father's fate. I'd choose to recall his soul's reaction. It speaks volumes, in my opinion. On other note, Manwe had known in an instant what was all that about, Namo was close to follow, but Orome and Nienna hadn't been that close. Quite fascinating, these two Valar, for the implications of such knowledge are too important to be ignored, unless Glorfindel would be a special case, that's it. Very important is also Manwe'statement, according to which the decision to release a Reborn doesn't belong to Namo alone. If I recall correctly, said Vala had his share of curses and expletives for not releasing one or another, including from Finrod and Glorfindel. "grin" Well, perhaps someone would be so kind as to do justice to Namo...."sigh" Well, and because I've ranted enough, I won't say anything else about how happy I am for Glorfindel's atar, for he has sought and found forgiveness from the Valar. His wife and son are next in line, but he has done the most important step. Thank you a thousand times for the joy I have dreamt about since reading the story "Crossing the Ice" . P.S. I hope you have a pleasant time or, if you're back, that the trip was equally pleasant and fruiful.

Author's reply

We all tend to judge people on surface reactions without understanding the underlying cause of their moods. This is what is happening here with the Maiar. The trigger for the memory is so subtle and made up of unconnected incidences (at least to the Maiar's minds) that they don't catch on until the Valar appear. I suspect that had any of Námo's Maiar been there they would have recognized the signs and would have known what was happening. Somewhere in "Laws and Customs of the Elves" is a statement that elves are 'reborn' after Manwë and Námo consult Eru on it, so I put this statement here as a way of reminding people that it's not Námo's decision entirely who gets to be reborn and when. As for my trip... unfortunately it has had to be postponed but hopefully for not too long. Perhaps after Easter.

Kitty · 28 March 2009 · Chapter 50: Dark Memory

At first I was quite surprised how irritable Glorfindel all of a sudden had become, but after the Valar joined them it became soon clear why he was so moody. Poor ellon, to be reminded of this terrible day must have been quite a burden. And of course the Maiar couldn't understand because the trigger was so subtle. So that was the fate of Glorfindel's father? Glorfindel was not the only one who had wondered. That ellon paid dearly for his crimes, no doubt. I really hope Glorfindel will not only be reunited, but reconciled with both his parents before he leaves for Middle-earth again. I think he needs to make his peace with his atar. On a brighter note - a black horse with a white mane and tail? Now, that's unusual! So far, I've seen only a snow white horse with completely black legs :) And the story about Aulë and his star core was just hilarious. Such a pity that Glorfindel wasn't in the mood to enjoy it! That would make such a great story for his otornor!

Author's reply

Sublte trigger is right, Kitty. Not all triggers are blatant and they do not always trigger intense reactions such as the one that felled Glorfindel during the tournament. Sometimes they are more insidious and onlookers are left wondering what is wrong. Hopefully Glorfindel will come to terms with what happened with his parents. Whether they are released before he leaves for Middle-earth is another thing but certainly when he returns they should be waiting for him. I've only seen pictures of such horses myself. Living on a horse farm I see *lots* of pictures of horses in catalogues and such. *grin* I included the 'stare-core' discussion among the Valar to show that Glorfindel is not always on the Valar's mind and that they have other concerns to deal with. Also, to lightent the mood a bit in an otherwise dark chapter. *grin*

Agape4Gondor · 25 March 2009 · Chapter 50: Dark Memory

I think Ces is right - you definitely should consider writing 'The Best of The Book' - it would be a hoot! As for Glorfindel - they say adversity makes a man - but honestly, this poor Elf suffers... We see it daily. I think finally leaving Aman and going to Middle-earth will seem like a picnic to him! Great chapter - very tense, very disturbingly ssd.

Author's reply

Well, you never know, Agape, I just may. *lol* A disturbing chapter, as you say, but now that he has acknowledged it he can begin to heal.

Sunny · 25 March 2009 · Chapter 50: Dark Memory

Ouch! No wonder Glorfindel never, talks about his parents. And such a small thing that set his subconscious to work. Just that haversack beside the door. Which reminded him of the day he left Tirion. And what followed. And Lisselindë just made ir worse by calling him “child”. Which might have merely irked him in other circimstances. Now … No wonder he went ballistic. Hopefully he will feel better after talking about it and a good night’s sleep.

Author's reply

It´s usually the small things that set us off rather than the big stuff. Now that it´s out in the open he should begin to heal from the memory.