hawkeye
· 8 December 2014
· Chapter 38: Ingwë Alone
Ingwë must have felt like he was waking in a dream here, and I think that, more than anything else would be terrifying. Dreams can be frightening, but the knowledge that they are not real is some comfort, even if very remote. To awaken to something like a dream from which there is no waking would unnerve anyone. Here you can really see the effect of Ingwë's many years of experience with the Valar. Even in this bizarre situation, he is able to say with a clear head that he trust Lord Manwë completely. That kind of trust is only born of years and years of close friendship. It is, in many ways, more than that though. The kind of trust Ingwë shows for Manwë at least initially reminds me very much as that which a child has for a parent. Ingwë knows that it will be okay because Manwë has proven time and again that he is worthy of trust. Lord Námo even alludes to this when he says Ingwë will only return with one he trusts the most.
There are misgivings though. Regardless of intent, Ingwë can't help but feel like he is being treated as though he is not to be trusted. Maiar, for all that they aren't Valar, are terrifyingly powerful beings. Having fourteen show up to "escort" him couldn't help but feel like overkill.
Fionwë's responses are annoying enigmatic, whether or not he is intending to be difficult. I think that probably helped lead to Ingwë's eventual flight. Knowledge is power, and the shock of finding his people in such an outlandish state and the lack of answers finally got to him. (On a side note, when Fionwë said this: "Does my lord require anything?" I must confess wanting to slap him. I'm sure there is copious literature somewhere detailing the extreme foolishness of slapping a Maia, but still.)
The way that the Valar and Maiar address Ingwë shifts a lot. I noticed that they call him (and other elves) "child" quite frequently. I suppose to them, even the oldest elves would seem very young, but I wonder if they don't see the elves, at least in some ways, as their children.
Atar is definitely at work here. Ingwë, for all his fear, knows innately where the safest place is to run. But, in order to hear Him, Ingwë actually needs to stop and be still. That is so like Atar; not forcing or shouting, but always present and always calling to his children, even the wayward ones. Again, you did a beautiful job of showing how fear is cast out by perfect love.
The damage to Ingwë's fëa is concerning. To be the king that he needs to be, Ingwë needs to be fully able to function. Between Manwë and Atar though, I'm sure he is in the best hands :)
Thank you for another beautiful chapter, Fiondil.
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Yes, trust is certainly important here and it must have felt very twilight-zonish to Ingwë. As for Fionwë's annoyingly enigmatic responses, that is only from Ingwë's POV and he's in a sense tripping out here and he's not seeing or hearing things clearly, as you will see in the next chapter. At any rate, what you say about Atar is very true and I'm glad you liked that part of it. It will take a while for Ingwë's fëa to recover from the experience, but it will only make him stronger and a better king, I think. Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it very much.
hawkeye
· 6 December 2014
· Chapter 37: An Ancient Lullaby
Ingwion made me smile in this chapter. I'm interested to see how this new friendship plays out. As the son of the Ingaran and one of the oldest elves, Ingwion will bring some unique experiences to the friendship. As haryon, I'm guessing he has similar duties to what Finrod has for his atar (holding his own court, etc). Perhaps this is one reason why Ingwion has the maturity to know when to "restart" things and see Glorfindel in a new light. Oh, and that's interesting that he's older than Arafinwë. Again, it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
Oh good, Alassiel and Glorfindel are going to get along. I got all kinds of exasperated at the reactions of some of the Vanyar, though. Really? Can they not just accept someone for who they are? It is, sadly, very true to life though. They are afraid, I think. Afraid that their paradigm will change, they their importance and sense of security might be in some way diminished. I think that it's interesting that those who seem most threatened and mistrustful of Glorfindel and his experiences are not those with the most to lose (Inwë and Arafinwë). Rather, it's the lesser important people who are the most insecure.
And yet, it is surprising that so many people missed Lirulin beginning to fade. Perhaps fading is just less common in Aman. Then again, having Tinwetariel and Ingoldo for in-laws can't be helpful either, though I would hate to think of them actively contributing. Glorfindel, not surprisingly, knows exactly what to do. However painful, I think Lirulin needed to hear what Glorfindel had to say. Hopefully she is still able to take it to heart.
"He much prefers people who defy him, spit in his face, and tell him where he can take himself." This made me laugh. I can't imagine who would have been that silly *grins*
You have a wonderful way of "humanising" Atar. I don't mean that in a negative way, but I mean bringing him, in all his power and majesty, to a point where he would genuinely rejoice in the awakening of his children. So often, even in everyday life, he is so far and remote, and yet he is not. The lullaby was beautiful and brought tears to my eyes. I think, so far, it is one of my favourite parts of the story. It is a beautiful picture of the Father's love.
The ending has me feeling uneasy. I get the feeling we're in for another round of adventure ;)
Thank you for a beautiful chapter. Have a blessed day, Fiondil.
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Ingwion is several hundred years older than Arafinwë, actually, so I would think he's achieved a level of maturity, given his status, that allows him to "restart" things with Glorfindel. He will prove to be a very good for Glorfindel as you will see later on.
I'm glad you like how I portray Atar even if indirectly. He may appear to be removed from everything but that is not really the case as we will see later on. This scene is one of my favorites also. As for the ending, yes, there is another round of adventure on its way. :)
Thanks for reviewing. I'm glad you found this chapter beautiful. Thank you for letting me know. I appreciate it very much.
hawkeye
· 3 December 2014
· Chapter 36: A Lesson In Forgiveness
This chapter is rich in so many details. But, on a rather shallower note, I'm really glad that it looks like Alassiel will not take as long to turn around as Amarië did. I'm still feeling sorry for Finrod *laughs*
Manwë's threat disturbed me greatly. A part of me wants to believe that it was in jest, but that seems like a jest in pretty pour taste. Perhaps not entirely serious? The thing is Manwë doesn't strike me as one to trifle with people. Manwë is, in many ways, very much like Atar. Maybe that is because he is the Eldest and, if I recall correctly, he is the most like Atar. (I'm not sure if I have the quote right and I don't have my Silmarillion with me.) Anyway, I really do hope that Manwë would not relegate Námo to being with Melkor :'(
It's an interesting double edged sword though. On the one hand, Námo did infringe on Glorfindel's and Alassiel's free will. Being that the eldar belong to Atar and not to the Valar, that could be a serious thing. But as Alassiel points out, she would never have given permission, even though it was probably the best thing that could have happened to her.
The significant thing is that the all seem to have learned well, Námo included.
Glorfindel seems really grown up in this chapter. Perhaps being in Gondolin has brought out some of those qualities he had as a Lord there. Interesting that he seems to realise that he isn't ready to have his sword, and even more interesting that Lord Námo didn't see it coming. I felt really bad for Glorfindel here, on a lot of levels. It's almost as though he's realised what he once was, but that he isn't that anymore (yet ;). Manwë's trust will go a long way for Glorfindel here, I think. And I'm interested to see when Námo chooses to give the sword back. I'm wondering too if it will coincide with when he is ready to go to Taniquetil.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling review. I loved this chapter. Thanks so much for sharing :)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Oh, I have no doubt that Manwë meant every word of his threat, and Námo knew it. He had crossed a line and he knew he had and Manwë called him on it, not as a fellow Vala, but as the Elder King and Eru's vice-regent in Eä. He has both the power and the authority.
Glorfindel certainly looks mature here and we see a glimpse of the Elf-lord he was and always will be. As for the sword, we'll see what comes of it later.
I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter. Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it.
hawkeye
· 27 November 2014
· Chapter 35: Post Mortem
And now comes the reaction. I must say I really enjoy these parts of the story as they give so much more insight into different characters. Ingwion is already redeeming himself, for which I am very happy. I'm guessing, even without being reborn, Ingwion would be quite a bit older than Glorfindel. Is he about the same age as Arafinwë? (Is it even possible to make such comparisons with immortals?) Tinwetariel is annoying, but Ingoldo makes me uneasy. I hope Ingwë is watching his back. I thought the comment that Inwë made at the end of the chapter was interesting. Why would Ingoldo fear Ingwion but not Ingwë? Perhaps it is because, being Ingwë's brother, Ingoldo is able to pass over him as "just" a sibling. Sometimes the people easiest to overlook are, sadly, those closest to us.
Ingwion showed a lot of self possession in this chapter. He seemed to take his uncle and aunt very much in stride, not backing down but not rising to the bait either. I wonder if he gets that from his Atar. Beyond this he seems to be very teachable, meaning he knows when to admit his mistakes and when to learn from them. I hope to see more of him :)
"Don’t," Findis sniggered. "Eärwen wrote and told me that my brother has never been happier since Glorfindel and the Sinda... what’s his name?... Sador... came to live with them. I suspect it’s like having my other nephews back." Trust it to your sister to not by sympathetic. This made me laugh, and I'm glad that Arafinwë and Eärwen are happier now with more "children" in their lives. They make good parents It keeps them young ;) Speaking of which, I do hope to see the other two soon, especially Sador.
Interesting that Ingwë made such a point of making Glorfindel's ban known to Ingwion. Apparently he felt the need to make it a king's order instead of just telling him as his Atar. I'm a little concerned that he said that in front of Ingoldo and Tinwetariel. They might be all too happy to make life even more miserable for Glorfindel. If they do, I hope Ingwion makes their lives miserable.
Happy Thanksgiving, Fiondil! Thank you for another lovely chapter :)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Ingwion is very much older than Glorfindel and in fact he is several hundred years older than Arafinwë. As to why Ingoldo fears Ingwion more than Ingwë, you would have to read "In Darkness Bound" to find the answer to that.
We will see that Ingwë making known to everyone Glorfindel's ban will have serious consequences later on, but to say anything more would spoil things for you. At any rate, Ingoldo should make you uneasy, as you will see why soon enough.
We'll catch up with Sador and Finrod eventually, I promise.
Thanks for taking the time to read and review. I hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving as well.
hawkeye
· 17 November 2014
· Chapter 34: A Lesson In Manners
The attitude of so many of the Vanyar is really starting to get old, though I suspect those kinds of people get old quickly anyway, regardless of the circumstances. Glorfindel was a hero in this chapter. Passing through death the first time was horrific enough, but I think this shows even more of Glorfindel's character because this time he knew what he would face and how it would end. It was also telling that, despite her rudeness, Glorfindel still came to Alassiel's defense, even going so far as to be angry on her behalf. I can see, as a lord, how this kind of character would be important. And, I think I would fully expect to see him react this way, but what surprised me was it seemed like he was genuinely concerned for her and her welfare. That kind of goodness is something that I always associated with Glorfindel, but he hasn't had much opportunity to show yet.
So we are going to see Ingwion in this story. I love reading about these significant, yet so little discussed, characters. I am a bit confused on a point though, so please forgive my ignorance. It really surprised me that Ingwion would goad Glorfindel the way that he did. I seem to recall reading that he went and fought in Middle Earth? Given that history, I wonder why he, at least at first, seemed so standoffish. In either case, I was impressed that he willingly admitted his mistake to his atar. Hopefully he won't get into too much trouble.
It seems like Elessairon might be a possible friend for Glorfindel. He certainly could use a few :) As a side note, you keep adding characters that I like and want to know more about. It's amazing :)
Thanks for another lovely chapter!
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. With regards to Ingwion, Tolkien had several versions of his story in some of his early writings about the War of Wrath and in some of them he's named Ingil instead and even his ultimate fate differs from one version to the next. Since Ingwion in any form never appears in the Silmarillion and as I took that as my starting point I felt free to develop Ingwion's character as I saw fit and in my universe for reasons that we learn later, Ingwion, in fact, did not join Arafinwë in the War of Wrath. Instead, Ingwion's cousin, Intarion, who, in this story, resides in Mandos at the moment, goes in his stead and dies there attempting to save Arafinwë's life. His daughter is Alassiel. I won't say anything more about Ingwion as it will spoil things for you, but I hope you will give him a chance to redeem himself. He really is a nice ellon. *grin*
I'm sure Elessairon will end up being a friend to Glorfindel as well.
Glorfindel's reaction to what Alassiel suffers just shows that as adolescent as he may act at times, he is indeed an Elf-lord, puissant and noble. His character shines here and we see the Elf-lord that he was and will be.
Thanks for leaving a review. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter.
hawkeye
· 15 November 2014
· Chapter 33: Connecting the Dots
Ingwë is fascinating, though, for some reason I am still not quite sure of him. I think Glorfindel feels the same way, and given the reactions he's had from the other Vanyar, I don't think it's too unreasonable. You do an amazing job of writing deep characters. It's possible to write a three dimensional character that isn't deep, but the depth of the characters is something that I really enjoy in your writing. I am constantly guessing and actually wanting to learn more. Anyway, back to my review.
Ingwë. He shows a lot of subtlety here. A part of me absolutely does believe him when he says that he isn't asking questions to make Glorfindel uncomfortable or to get enjoyment at his expense, but there is another part that is afraid he might turn. I think that Ingwë is very well aware of what is going on around him. Having lived as long as he has and having been high king for so long, he has got to be a master at reading people. I suspect that, whatever his outward reaction might be, he has a fairly good idea of what Tinwetariel is like.
"Child, I never do anything without a reason." This made me shiver, and it makes me wonder what all Ingwë playing at. I'm sure we will never know completely. Having already made the statement that Glorfindel killed the Balrog before his court, I think Ingwë is knows perfectly well the validity of the story without needing Glorfindel to confirm it for him. But if I had to guess, I think this is more a test of Glorfindel than an attempt to confirm events. Sometimes I think that more can be gained from how something is said than just from what is said. Ingwë, being the master reader that he is, wants to see how Glorfindel sees his life and by continuation, himself. He knows Tinwetariel well, it's Glorfindel that he doesn't know.
I enjoyed the little glimpse into Glorfindel's past from his own perspective, however brief, especially his perspective on Turgon. Námo showing up was a surprise. "You could not see, but I, too, was weeping.” This is so true of life, isn’t it? We have no idea, when we sin, what we are really headed for. I’m not sure how I feel about Námo’s revelation about the time that Glorfindel can go to Taniquetil, though I am sure there is good reason. I suppose we shall have to wait and see.
Thank you for another wonderful chapter, Fiondil. I’m sorry this review was so long in coming. I’ve actually written it twice. The first time the computer decided to eat it :P Hope you’re having a wonderful week!
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Ingwë is very deep and, trust me, he's on Glorfindel's side all the way, as you will see. As for Glorfindel, we see one effect of being a Reborn, where random connections to memories are made and they overwhelm him with the emotions they evoke. We will also see how the prohibition against going to Taniquetil will play out as the story progresses. Thanks for taking the time to read and review. It's much appreciated.
hawkeye
· 2 November 2014
· Chapter 32: In the High King's Garden
Ingwë fascinates me. He is completely different from what I expected, though I'm not sure I could say what I actually did expect. I love the depth of character that you give him. He shows a level of concern for Glorfindel that was both surprising and refreshing, and I wonder where he comes by this. As the greatest of the High Kings, I think one would hope that he would possess these qualities, but there seems more to it than that. But, I suppose I shall have to wait and see :) I am enjoying reading about him though. He has many parent qualities that remind me quite a lot of his nephew, Arafinwë. It makes me wonder too who Arafinwë learned from, since Finwë never has struck me as the particularly caring type. But I digress.
Hopefully Glorfindel is able to take Ingwë's advice and not rise to the bait, but I wonder about his capacity to do so. I don't doubt Glorfindel as a person, but his level of emotional maturity at this point makes me wonder if he really is able to take advice like this, however good it is. For his sake, of course, I think we all hope he rises to the challenge.
Alassiel is another interesting character. At first I felt like "here we go again", but I am curious about her Atar. Here, again, Glorfindel partially allows himself to be baited, but overall I think he did well. I will have to see where things go with her.
Findis made me smile. At least Arafinwë didn't just send Glorfindel out into the wolves, even though it might feel like that to Glorfindel. Your note at the end was also a surprise. I had heard of Findis before, but never about Finvain and Faniel.
Thank you for a fun and informative chapter, Fiondil :)
Author's reply
There is even less about Ingwë than there is about Finwë or even Olwë in the Silmarillion, and all that we are told of him is that he invited Finwë to his city where he meets Indis and they fall in love. After that, you never hear about him again. I felt it was high time that we saw more of him and he plays an important part of this story as you will see. As the High King above all High Kings among the Elves, he would have to exhibit parental qualities, I would imagine, and being a parent himself would certainly help him there. As for where he might have learned such qualities, well, we know that Ingwë removed to Taniquetil with his people so that they could be closer to the Valar, so I imagine he learned from them or perhaps more specifically Manwë. As for Arafinwë, you would have to read my story "In Darkness Bound" to find out. And that story also explains what Ingwë was doing at the time of the Darkening and why we hear nothing from him when Fëanor is causing havoc and mayhem among the Noldor that eventually leads to their Exile.
Anyway, Glorfindel and Alassiel will have an interesting relationship in this story and Findis, while she doesn't have a very large role, is still an interesting character. You can read about how she as the oldest daughter of Finwë and Indis met and eventually married Valandur in my story "In the High King's Secret Service".
Thanks for reviewing, Hawkeye. I appreciate it very much.
hawkeye
· 28 October 2014
· Chapter 31: Glorfindel Among the Vanyar
Olórin! I think I almost threw a party when he walked in. This was an interesting chapter for a number of reasons. First, I can't believe Tinwetariel would snub Glorfindel like that given his history and his place in Arafinwë's family. But on another level, I'm not surprised at all. Ingwë is an interesting individual. I hope he ends up being good to Glorfindel, and it certainly seems like he's headed in that direction. Given the reactions of other Vanyar though, I'm not completely sure. I thought it was telling though, that he was willing to apologise, even in front of his court. That says good things for his character. And, I'm glad he put Tinwetariel in her place. Ingwë certainly seems to have a scary side. If I were Tinwetariel, sister or not, I'd be uneasy about now.
Interesting that Námo decided to send a message. It doesn't seem like Glorfindel has done anything particularly worthy of a "scaring", though I this may be the Vala looking a bit into the future and trying to avert trouble before it starts. Either way, I hope that Glorfindel is able to make some friends now, though something tells me he's rather er.... adventure prone. *laughs*
Thanks for another fun chapter!
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Tinwetariel knows nothing of Glorfindel's history and is not impressed by him, so snubbing him comes naturally to her. She's definitely a piece of work and her husband, Ingwë's brother, is even worse, if that's at all possible. Ingwë, on the other hand, is full of surprises and has great depth of character. He is the High King above all High Kings among the Elves and has ruled the Elves of Aman since before they ever reached these shores. He is very wise and full of compassion, as you will see. And yes, he does have a scary side, as all good rulers must have.
Námo, I think, was just taking advantage of the situation. Glorfindel was being extremely rude and petulant and Námo was merely acting as any parent would in that situation and chastising him. That he did so by proxy just shows that he doesn't have to show up in person to keep someone like Glorfindel in line. *grin*
We'll see how successful Glorfindel is in settling in and making friends now that he's in Vanyamar for a time.
Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it.
hawkeye
· 25 October 2014
· Chapter 30: Departures
I sense trouble is on the way, and I wonder if perhaps Arafinwë might have miscalculated on this one. That being said, I am very curious why he feels he needs to send Glorfindel at all. I'm sure he has reasons, he just hasn't revealed what they are yet. Despite the fact that Arafinwë is older and Glorfindel's Atar, it was a bit shocking that he wasn't more proactive here, especially where Tinwetariel is concerned. She really is a piece of work. Interesting about her son, but I would think that would make her more understanding and less of a... well I just won't go there :) Surprisingly, Eärwen is the one to step in.
Irmo wanting Finrod was a bit of a surprise, even more so that he didn't send for both Glorfindel and Finrod. I'm interested to see where this is headed. Hopefully Laurendil and Manwen will not feel that they are being punished. On the one hand though, I can see how they could easily get that impression. I would not be surprised if Finrod felt the same way either.
Glorfindel's reaction to Arafinwë was sad. At first, his reaction to Tinwetariel impressed me because he kept his cool quite well and at the same time didn't let her walk all over him. I think Glorfindel may actually feel hurt that Arafinwë did not step in at that point. Also, he may not feel safe. Children look to parents for both love and protection. Lack thereof can make someone very insecure and I wonder if that's not what is happening with Glorfindel because he doesn't think that Arafinwë will protect him from Tinwetariel. So, the solution is to avoid the situation altogether. Sadly though, I have to wonder if he had sat with Arafinwë like he was used to doing, if it might not have improved the situation somewhat. Arafinwë seems to respect what Glorfindel has to say, and that goes a lot way sometimes. As it is, people only see him as being childish, which is exactly what he doesn't want.
Refusing to speak to has Atar later and refusing to say goodbye to both Arafinwë and Eärwen was rather immature. Unfortunately I think he's trying to punish Arafinwë the way that young people sometimes do. Really, he's just hurting everyone, himself included. Finrod was right calling him Pityaván. *grins*
Thank you for another interesting chapter, Fiondil :)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. In many ways, Glorfindel is an adolescent, at least emotionally, and we all know that adolescents are all over the map, mature one minute and childish the next and then everything in between. Arafinwë as the unenviable task of not only being an 'atar' to Glorfindel, but also his king and sometimes he has to bite the bullet as it were and play the bad guy. I'm sure Arafinwë and Eärwen understand and forgive him for his behavior, however hurtful it might be. Most parents do, after all. We'll see how things go for him once he reaches Vanyamar. That's a whole different kettle of fish, believe me. *grin*
Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it.
hawkeye
· 23 October 2014
· Chapter 29: Travel Plans
I love how Eärwen brought Arafinwë over to her way of seeing things. While she may not be in center stage much, her influence is far reaching. She is, after all, the mother of Galadriel. Although, I have a feeling that Galadriel was a little less subtle about things in her youth :) At any rate, Sador is adorable. There just isn't much else to say on the subject.
"...then made sure there was some truth to his words by spending the morning drilling Glorfindel and Sador on the history of Aman and the relationship between the various elven kingdoms and the Valar." This made me laugh and shudder at the same time in sympathy for Glorfindel and Sador. Being drilled by the Noldorán would be intimidating enough, not to mention the fantastic amount of knowledge he would have at his disposal. That's not a quiz I'd envy being in on :)
Arafinwë really does mean to use Sador beyond just having him be his ward. I saw a side of Arafinwë in this chapter I haven't seen before and that is deviousness, or perhaps a better term might be sagacity. It isn't negative. Arafinwë strikes me as being a very "good" elf, much like Finrod was and is. In all of his interactions lately, his misunderstanding of his reborn son, I lost sight of just how long he has been king and just how good he is at his job. In the first place, he not only sees everything, such as picking up on the subtleties of his surroundings (like people's body language), he's also listening. It isn't just passive listening either, he's hearing, absorbing, calculating and planning. Most people just wouldn't have listened to Sador that closely. He's too young. I'm interested to see how this plan of his works out.
Manwen, as a Sinda, has less knowledge of the Valar than her husband, but the depth Laurendil's bitterness towards the powers caught be off guard. I wonder if it isn't so much bitterness towards the Valar as bitterness towards himself and some of the happenings regarding his separation from Finrod (when Finrod died). I suppose we will find out later. Here again, Arafinwë surprised me. I would not have been surprised at Finrod having talked to Lord Irmo, but it's interesting that that action came from his Atar. Again, Arafinwë is watching and listening more than he's given credit for. I just wonder what his motive is, if he has one beyond the well being of his son's subjects. One thing I am curious about too is how Arafinwë views Finrod's people. In the one sense, because Finrod is technically his Atar's vassal, wouldn't Finrod's people be Arafinwë's vassals as well, if somewhat remotely? Or does Arafinwë just take care of people because that's what he does as a monarch?
Irmo's interaction with Laurendil was also a surprise, particularly his foreboding attitude later on. I would have thought that. Given Laurendil's fears and reticence, I would have expected him to be less forward. But, I suspect that he knows better than anyone what is really going on. "No? Well, we’ll see." That sent shivers down my spine. It looks like Laurendil is going to be an apprentice whether he likes it or not :)
Thanks for writing, Fiondil. I enjoyed this chapter immensely.
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Sador is very adorable. Arafinwë less so, but he's smart, scary smart and he has indeed had about a thousand years as Noldóran to perfect his craft as a ruler and a very wise one. And while Finrod might well have spoken to Lord Irmo about Laurendil and Manwen, Arafinwë, by virtue of his status as high king of the Noldor, is more likely to be in a position to make certain arrangements for others. And technically speaking, any of Finrod's vassals would be Arafinwë's simply because Finrod is his vassal, but I think he also has a caring side to him that allows him to want to help others. Just because one is a king it doesn't follow that one will be a caring one. History bears this out in spades.
Irmo is a great psychologist. He would have to be since he deals primarily with the minds of Elves and Men, so how he approaches others is all calculated to bring them to self-realization.
Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate you taking the time to do so.
hawkeye
· 20 October 2014
· Chapter 28: Judgment Passed
This was a very strong chapter. I grieve for Finrod that, ultimately, he will never be with the mortals he loved so much again. His attitude towards mortals reminds me of the same Glorfindel had towards Finrod himself before his talk with Lord Námo, only on a grander scale. The fault itself is interesting because, like most faults, it starts out as something good and admirable and then turns into a flaw when taken to the extreme. Caring for mortals is not wrong in itself, and certainly not a sin like some of his cousins committed, but taking by trying to make them his own, and thus really attempting to supplant Eru, was wrong. I wonder if he will not always be bereft not being able to be with them. I suppose though that in the end, he would not need to be bereft as he has lost no more than anyone else who has treasured friendship with a mortal, except for the loss of his self delusions.
The stripping away of self delusions, I think, is the most terrifying part of judgement. We like to think that we can live without them, but really truth is both a beautiful and terrifying thing. I'm not sure there are many things, if anything at all, that is more terrifying that Truth. Because of that, I'm not really surprised that it has taken this long for Finrod to remember his own judgement. Now, perhaps, he will be able to carry on fitting the pieces of his former life back into the life he has now.
Námo's being there made all the difference, and as someone who is perhaps closer in relationship to Eru, I think Finrod really needed him to be able to face the memory. Again, Námo fills the role of Counselor and Consoler so perfectly. I think it was also vitally important for Finrod to experience the embrace of the Other. Despite the delusions and the mistakes, there is still love unimaginable.
Námo's comment about it being even better has me wondering if an experience like that might not destroy or damages the feä. Perhaps not if you were a Maia or one of the Valar. Still, it made me laugh as did Finrods reactions to the memory of being an elfling. I know it would be hard for me to face Manwë, or any of the other Valar after that.
Another wonderful chapter. Thanks for sharing!
Author's reply
The stripping away of self-delusions is very hard and Truth is, as you say, both beautiful and terrifying. Most of us, though, would rather stay with our self-delusions as being safer. Finrod, on the other hand, really had to face the Truth if he hoped to progress in wisdom and degree beyond where he was because the Valar needed him to move forward if their plans for him were to bear fruit, as we will see much later in the story.
Námo was really the only one of the Valar who could have been there for Finrod, since this was something he does with all the fear under his care, to one degree or another, being there for them as they face themselves, comforting, consoling and ultimately supporting them through the terror of coming face-to-face with Ultimate Truth.
And, yes, the full experience of Love would destroy any incarnate without there being someone to mediate it for them, as Námo does for Finrod.
Thanks for a lovely review, Hawkeye. I appreciate it very much.
hawkeye
· 17 October 2014
· Chapter 27: Judgment Recalled
Despite the warning, this chapter was rather intense though not necessarily in a bad way. Seeing Finrod before he was in Mandos was intriguing, particularly his relationship with the Valar. Before, he seems to have had very little relationship with them and his knowledge of them, and their goodness, was more an intellectual exercise. Seeing Varda lead the beginning of the questioning was surprising, but somehow fits though she clearly doesn't enjoy what she is doing. Knowing that it will ultimately be for the good of the one being judged probably makes the whole process more bearable, but it must wear on them to have to go through this process again and again. I see Varda as being (probably) the strongest of the Valier, so her sadness at the situation said a lot.
Finrod's defiance was surprising. He admits to himself that he wanted to go for adventure's sake, and for his friendship with Turgon. But, when asked for his reasons, he doesn't state either one and the Valar accept it. Surely they know his reasons, they say as much when he ran away to the mountains after he was first returned to Tirion. I'm interested to see if he is able to admit this to himself and to them also.
I'm also happy that Finrod is not going to face this remembering alone, and here we see Námo in his favourite role. Námo's role as consoler is interesting to me. It makes sense, though I do wonder why him just from curiosity.
Anyway, I enjoy your insights into the characters. I'm interested to see what Finrod's promise was. Thank you for sharing :)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Finrod's defiance was, I think, born of a realization that he'd been given every opportunity to turn back from the Rebellion as his atar did and he did not. He doesn't expect mercy from the Valar so for him it's a case of "in for a penny, in for a pound". Of course, his notion of mercy and theirs doesn't necessarily coincide as you will see in the next chapter.
As the Lord of Mandos, Námo has charge of the fear of the dead, and while he is Judge, he is also Counselor and Consoler to the dead. These roles are complementary, not diametrically opposed, as any parent will tell you.
Thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it.
hawkeye
· 12 October 2014
· Chapter 26: The Cost of Kingship
I was wondering when something like this was going to happen, and truthfully I'm surprised it took them this long to search Finrod out. I'm interested to see where things go with Laurendil. Both he and Manwen strike me as being incredibly loyal, especially after the scene about wanting to give Finrod his oath again. I don't think he will be parted from Finrod again easily. So Manwen studied with Elrond. That says a lot both for her and for Laurendil. Knowing where Glorfindel ends up much later, I really enjoyed seeing his reaction to hearing Elrond's name. The friendship between Elrond and Glorfindel has always been something I've enjoyed, even from the first time I read about them at the feast in The Fellowship of the Rings.
Sador and Glorfindel are good for Finrod, despite being emotionally much younger and that extends beyond just having someone younger to be responsible for. Part of me wished that he would say yes, but I'm also glad he made the decision that he did. With all the elves returning from over the sea, though, I could easily see Finrod doing more than simply waiting to become king of the Noldor (but this is just speculation for me). People who have lived outside Aman won't just step neatly into one of the three kindreds, I think. Eventually I think there will need to be other leaders, even if one of the three "high kings" still holds their fealty. All this to say, I can easily see Finrod taking on this kind of thing at some point in the future. But again, that's just me.
I really liked Arafinwë's response to all of this. Perhaps now he and his son will have a better understanding of each other. At last I think Arafinwë is begging to appreciate some of the ramifications of Finrod's leaving Aman that he hasn't seen before. I'm also curious to see what his response will be to the potential of others like Laurendil and Manwen renewing their ties with Finrod instead of him as Noldoran.
Anyway, I loved seeing more of both Laurendil and his wife. Thank you for an exciting read :)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Finrod's destiny is not to become a king again. We will learn what the Valar have in store for him later in this story. I think they are subtly influencing him so as not to accept offers of kingship from others.
Arafinwë is finally seeing a side of Finrod that has not manifested itself since his re-embodiment. He is seeing the king Finrod was and still is though he no longer wears a crown. We'll see how he reacts to people like Laurendil renewing their ties with Finrod as the story progresses.
I'm glad you like Laurendil and Manwen. They appear in a number of my stories and I've always been fond of them. Laurendil, in fact, plays a starring role in my story "The Last Messenger: A Tale of Númenor". You may want to read that someday when you get the chance.
Thanks for reviewing. It's much appreciated.
hawkeye
· 10 October 2014
· Chapter 25: Feasts and Follies
They both lose! I laughed when I read this, and I'm so glad Arafinwë was laughing too. While I did feel sorry for Amarië when things didn't go as planned, it was a very interesting look into Sindar and Noldor culture interacting. My initial thought, and this probably comes from Amarië's perspective, was to see the Sindar as sort of the backward children who behave the way they do because they are uncouth and know no better. But I think there is more to it than that. As the son of a lord of the Noldor, Laurendil certainly understands the traditions and expectations of Noldor society, so does Finrod for that matter. Also, Laurendil is not the only Noldor elf in the delegation. What is really happening, I think, is a clash of cultures and perhaps even of values. In some ways, I think Noldor society is stagnant (not all all areas, for sure). They do things out of tradition because they have always done them that way. It is tradition for tradition's sake, and living in Aman without the presence of others (men, dwarves, etc), their paradigms haven't been challenged as much. The Sindar bring new ideas, new traditions and perhaps more importantly, new experiences that have shaped their values. For example, when Arafinwë first meets Laurendil, he comments that Aman doesn't need warriors to which Laurendil responds that they don't need them yet. The Sindar value the warrior culture from experience that the Noldor who have stayed in Aman lack. Here, to the Noldor, Sador hasn't done anything to particularly warrant great honor. But to Laurendil, Manwen and even Finrod and Glorfindel, his sacrifice is worthy of great honor. Consequently, Laurendil insists that Sador sit that the high table, much to Amarië's frustration.
Lucky Sador gets his lecture in a hot bath. I wonder if he knows about this part of the ritual or if Finrod plans to accost his brother the way Námo accused him and Glorfindel *laughs* I want to see Arafinwë's face when Sador sings verse thirty one for him. I wonder if his reaction will be as priceless as Finrod's was. And oh my, Amarië's temper. I have to applaud her for keeping it as long as she did. I think that she really did learn something from Lord Námo.
Finrod's reaction to being called Finrod Felagund was a surprise, and I think it surprised him as well. Poor Eärwen though. Ammë's are always proper like that, I suppose, though I imagine she and Arafinwë managed to raise a few eyebrows when they were young and in love.
Varda shocked Manwë. I think I cheered at this point. Even after how many thousands of years, he still doesn't know it all. Oh, and being accosted by Lord Námo in the middle of your bath would be a rather... memorable experience. I hope you put that scene somewhere in your stories, my friend, because I really want to see Finrod and Glorfindel's expressions.
Thank you for a chapter full of laughs, Fiondil :)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. You're right that the Sindar and those Noldor who once resided in Beleriand have different cultural values that clash with those of the Noldor of Aman, who are more, shall we say, uptight about propriety and all. The Sindar and Exilic Noldor operate under different cultural parameters which may appear crude to those of Aman.
Sador, of course, is well aware of the initiation traditions, so no worries there.
Finrod was indeed surprised to hear Amarië address him by his Sindarin name and title. It was the last thing he expected to hear from her.
And sorry, but I don't put the scene of Námo accosting Finrod and Glorfindel in their baths anywhere. I'm afraid you'll just have to use your imagination as to their expressions, which were no doubt priceless. *grin*
Thanks for reviewing. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter.
hawkeye
· 8 October 2014
· Chapter 24: The Embassy from Tol Eressëa
Sador is a warrior, however he may think otherwise. More than anything, I think Sador's humility is one of his most striking character qualities. He is unassuming and not demanding, but is strong and cares deeply for those around him. While he still has a lot of growing to do, and in many ways, he still needs to finish growing up from his first life, I think he is becoming a very wonderful ellon.
Laurendil and his people were a complete surprise. It was good for both Arafinwë and the court to see that. I'm thinking back specifically to when Finrod was first returned from Mandos and certain members of the court accused him of making up his own kingdom for pride reasons. "For the first time Arafinwë honestly believed that his firstborn had been a true king among the Exiles, worthy of fealty given and received." This both startled me and, surprisingly, made me sad. After all this time, even his own father doesn't really understand who Finrod was, and in many ways, still is. It stung a bit, especially since Arafinwë has been to Middle Earth and seen Finrod's old kingdom, heard the tales of his son's exploits (from Eönwë no less) and seen the love and respect Finrod had from both elves and men first hand. In fact, I recall from Findaráto Diaries that Arafinwë said something to the effect that he was honored by elves and men in middle earth just because he was related to Finrod. Yet still he is here for the first time seeing his son as "worthy of fealty given and received." I wonder what Finrod's ammë thinks of it all.
For all his being a Reborn, I wonder if Finrod did not plan the initiation when he did as a test of loyalty of sorts. He is very politically astute, and I think, given the circumstances under which Laurendil and Finrod last parted, Finrod needed to see where things would go. On the other hand, he may well have known what Laurendil's reaction would have been and planned it that way simply because he wanted to help Sador see the worth of what he had done. It's difficult to say, but Finrod's comment right before the delegation comes in says there's more going on than meets the eye.
Arafinwë, once again, takes everything in stride. I'm interested to see what these elves do now that Finrod is back, especially Laurendil.
Thank you for an entertaining chapter :)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Well, Finrod certainly would know how those from Tol Eressëa would react to seeing Sador being initiated into their Warrior Society, so yes, more is going on than meets the eye.
And I think for Arafinwë, it's all been intellectual with regard to his son. He's heard the stories, probably even saw the ruins of Nargothrond, spoke with the survivors who remembered Finrod, but until he actually sees these people interact with Finrod as their king and he treats them accordingly, Arafinwë doesn't really see his son as a fellow king and as "worthy of fealty given and received".
And I'm sure Eärwen was equally surprised by what she witnessed.
Thanks for reviewing. It's much appreciated.
hawkeye
· 6 October 2014
· Chapter 23: Initiation
Fiondil! This is probably my favorite chapter so far in this book (I'm sure there will be others, but still ;) I enjoyed Arafinwë's musings about Olwë. Olwë strikes me as someone a lot like Celeborn in that people might often miscalculate when they first are around him. That's a really dangerous miscalculation to make. I like how Eärwen can both support her husband and go with the flow at the same time. She is the anchor that holds everything together.
I'm a little surprised that Finrod didn't bring his father in on the surprise, but it's a mark of the trust that Arafinwë has for Finrod that he didn't interfere. They are starting to work as a team, I think, which is wonderful. Sometimes though, I do wonder if Arafinwë is not hurt when he gets left out of his son's life. It's not intentional, but Finrod has had many experiences that his father has never had, nor ever will have.
Interesting "coincidence" Finrod thought to make the knife before Sador and Glorfindel were even released, if you want to call it a coincidence ;) I also liked that, despite being not too pleased with Finrod for the sudden change in plans, Arafinwë supported both Finrod and Sador through the initiation. Here we see how really observant the Noldoran is, that he knows how to both see a need a respond to it without taking over.
Something tells me that Finrod's initiating Sador will have long reaching consequences. It's interesting that it's the blood of the two oldest warriors, and those are Finrod and Glorfindel. I am curious if Arafinwë would not be considered a warrior himself, since he did go and fight in the war. Perhaps it is only the initiated by the Sindarin standards? In any case, I'm curious to know what Sador did as such a young elfling. I'm sure Arafinwë will get the story one way or another, I only hope we're there to hear it ;)
Thank you for a fun chapter! I enjoy the subtleties that you bring into your writing. It gives me much to think about :)
Author's reply
This is an interesting chapter and you're right that the initiation will have long-reaching consequences for them all. While Arafinwë certainly fought in the War of Wrath, he was not initiated into the Sindarin warrior society, and so he would not be involved in the initiation ceremony. As for the knife, you might recall from the Findaráto Diaries that Finrod created the knife when he was still in Lórien without knowing why he did so. And we'll learn what Sador did to earn those warrior braids in the next chapter. Thanks for reviewing, Hawkeye. I'm glad my stories give you much food for thought.
hawkeye
· 3 October 2014
· Chapter 22: Bathtime and Bedtime Stories
Netilmírë is lucky to have such a close relationship with Aulë and Yavanna. Even though time isn't a bit issue for them, I still found myself grieving for the time that they lost together when Netilmírë was so angry. But grief is like that. Perhaps now she won't be such a... difficult person. Interesting that Námo had to be the one to intervene. It was also interesting to see him caring for his brother Valar, not just the Children. Even though he's usually associated with the Children, I think caring for other Valar and Maiar would come naturally to Námo. For all that he's seen as a judge, which he is in a sense though he's not a brutal tyrant, I think his role involves quite a lot of caring for the spirits of others. Perhaps that is more of a healer's purview though.
Netilmírë must have quite a history with Aulë and Yavanna, especially if she was around them when she was ten, which is really young for an elfling. Their "fantasy" was cute, but real too. I think they really do see her as a daughter. I know they said that, but often I think words like that get tossed around easily. Either way, I really enjoyed them in this chapter, stuffed toys and all.
Thank you for brightening my day and for sharing this chapter! :)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. As Námo said, as soon as someone enters his Halls, their family becomes his responsibility as well. While Námo is primarily the Judge (that's what his name means) and Doomsman of the Valar, his favorite role is that of Counselor and Consoler.
And for Aulë and Yavanna, who, as pure spirits, aren't able to procreate, having an adopted daughter (or son) from among the Eldar is the closest they'll ever get to having that kind of family relationship. To some extent, the Valar view their Maiar as their sons and daughters, but I think when they "adopt" an incarnate for that role it means something very special for them and they do not bandy such words about lightly.
Anyway, I'm glad I was able to brighten your day even as you brighten mine with your thoughtful reviews. Thanks. I appreciate it.
hawkeye
· 3 October 2014
· Chapter 21: Netilmírë
This is an interesting turn of events. I am a bit confused though. Olórin says he's a servant of Lord Námo, but I thought he served Lord Manwë? Or is it possible for the Maiar to serve more than one lord? I recall you mentioning in Findaráto Diaries that he moved around, he was even working for Námo there as well. Olórin was an interesting choice for this, though I agree, he is every good at what he does. It's easy to forget, with the Valar around, how old and powerful the maiar are in their own right.
Netilmírë obviously has quite a story of her own. She obviously knows Lord Aulë quite well. In some respects, I think her anger might be at herself aside from just at her husband and the Valar. I think she is angry at herself for not doing something to either prevent her loved ones leaving or even from going with them herself. Often we regret more what we don't more than what he have done. That's just my guess though. Either way, Sador will be good for her just like he is for everyone else.
The mention of Eärnur has me very curious, especially after reading Findaráto Diaries. It's not the same Eärnur, but I might have a guess as to who he might be ;) Dare I hope that we might see Finrod's friend back in the near future?
Yes, university can be hectic, but I really can't complain too much. I'm studying what I love, and that in itself is a gift, I think ;) I do enjoy your stories very much and appreciate you being patient. Anyway, thank you for another lovely chapter.
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Olórin was a Maia of Irmo as well as Manwë and spent time with Nienna and because I wanted a canon Maia (only 3 are actually mentioned in the Silmarillion) on the scene, I attached him to Námo. The reason for this actually goes back to my story "Wars of the Valar", but Tolkien does state that this particular Maia served more than one Vala. And the Maiar are merely lower-tier Ainur, and while they are not as powerful as the Valar, any one of them has the power to snuff out a galaxy with a single thought.
Netlimírë was a surprise. I wasn't expecting her to show up. Her history is rather sad and we'll see how Sador helps her to come out of her shell.
We'll see Eärnur, Finrod's friend from Lórien, later on in the story. He'll actually have an important role to play.
Thanks for taking the time to read and review. I appreciate it.
hawkeye
· 1 October 2014
· Chapter 20: Aftermath
Finrod is my hero. I was really impressed by how far he has come in this chapter, and I wonder if having younger brothers has helped. Initially, it almost seemed like Glorfindel was more the leader of the two. I'm thinking back to that first morning in Tirion specifically, where Finrod claims not to have any friends. That's certainly not true in this instance though. Arafinwë's response was interesting on a number of levels. I'm very curious to know what happened to him when he turned back rather. Also, he seems more "aware" of the Valar than other people might be. It's hard to quantify what I mean by that, but basically, after Finrod tells him what is going on, he has an easier time accepting it for what it is. As a king, and an incredibly strong one given his history, I knew he could be intimidating, but this is the first time I've actually seen it. I think the members of his court will think twice about being unkind.
One of the ways that Arafinwë in particular impresses me is that he's not afraid to own either his mistakes or his shortcomings. As a monarch, that has to take a lot of courage. This quality really sets him apart from other kings, particularly his father and Feanor (to state an extreme case). I also think it is, perhaps, what makes him stronger and in some ways greater than they. He isn't above taking correction, even from his son in front of his court, or learning from his mistakes.
Again, I really enjoyed Sador and I'm also glad for whoever inspired him to come. I have a feeling he will do much more than be a potter, whatever he might think.
So Arafinwë and Eärwen officially has three sons again. I think it's very good for them ;)
Thank you for a fun chapter, Fiondil. And I'm sorry my reviews have been scattered of late. University has been commandeering more of my time than I would like to give it.
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. I think Finrod comes into his own here in this chapter as the courtiers get a glimpse of the king he once was and at the same time realize that as a Reborn he's had experiences none of them, not even Arafinwë, can truly understand or appreciate. And Arafinwë is a great king. Perhaps when you get around to reading "In Darkness Bound" you'll learn why.
Sador is Sador and good for them all, Glorfindel especially.
I well remember how hectic university can be, so review when you can. I'm grateful for whatever reviews you care to send me.
hawkeye
· 29 September 2014
· Chapter 19: Return to the Maze
Námo doesn't take any prisoners, does he? Hopefully Glorfindel isn't scarred for life, poor ellon. Glorfindel is the sort of person who needs a purpose in life, more so that most. He needs a reason and forward motion in whatever he does, so it's reasonable that he chafes under simply "being" as far as he can tell. I was surprised that Námo and Irmo got angry with him for wanting to protect his friend, though his protection did seem a little extreme. My guess is though, that these extremes are because of his emotional youth. Glorfindel's response was interesting too. I don't think Námo intended for him to flee the way that he did. (It serves him right to have to chase Glorfindel so far ;) Hopefully the effects on Glorfindel's feä will not be lasting. He is strong, but in comparison to a Vala he's quite fragile.
Arafinwë and Eärwen are full of surprises. I suppose that's happened when you've been married for a millennia though ;) They are good for each other, and are wonderful parents.
I love Sador. Hopefully he supplies Finrod with many more bowls of water int he future ;)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. No, Námo does not take prisoners. And he and Irmo are rightly angry at Glorfindel for abrogating for himself a role that he has not been asked to take on. Be Finrod's friend and even brother, but not his guardian. Finrod doesn't need protection even from Amarië, whatever Glorfindel thinks. Glorfindel fleeing the way he did will be something of a concern to the Valar later on as you will see.
Arafinwë and Eärwen are experienced parents so they've learned to take things in stride and Sador is the typical younger brother always getting his older brothers into mischief.
Thanks for reviewing. It's appreciated.
hawkeye
· 26 September 2014
· Chapter 18: Reflections Before Sleep
Yay! I feel like we're finally getting somewhere with Amarië. I impressed that she apologised to Sador for being so mean. Whatever people might say, that isn't an easy thing to do. On a side note, I am very interested to read In Darkness Bound. As you mentioned, I'm sure it's not a lot of "happy" reading, but I am interested to see where some of the characters are coming from.
The porridge scene was priceless. I do feel for Eärwen in this chapter. As a mother, I'm sure it's been hard for her to realise that the son she has now is so different from the one who left. Ammë's know their children better than just about anyone, but that really isn't the case for her anymore. Eärwen herself fascinates me, both as Olwë's daughter and as a mother to Finrod. She has to be a force to be reckoned with in her own right.
Again, we see Glorfindel's loyalty coming up. Despite the fact that Turgon is Arafinwë's nephew, that doesn't seem to be enough for Glorfindel. I'm guessing that Elrond, as a later and descendant of Turgon, will prove a different case. That or Glorfindel will change, which is entirely possible ;) Regardless, I thought the livery question was interesting. It seems like Glorfindel doesn't even want to have the appearance of serving anyone else. Which brings me to another question, will Sador have to take an oath to Finrod? Oaths are tricky at best so it will be interesting to see where it all goes.
Finrod being able to articulate the reason behind his own death is significant. He's accepted Eru's and the Valar's forgiveness on a deeper level and seems to have also been able to forgive himself. I'm not so sure if Glorfindel is at that place yet. As a father, Arafinwë probably can't help but experience profound grief over what has happened to his children, even though it was in the end good. As a parent, his first reaction would be to protect in any way he could. Hopefully he is able to come to terms with what has happened, or at least the knowledge of it.
I really enjoyed this chapter. It gave me much to think on too ;)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. "In Darkness Bound" isn't light reading, by any stretch of the imagination, although I sprinkle it with light moments and humor because that's how life is even with all its tragedies, but certainly it's an important read to understand where many of my characters that you meet here and elsewhere are coming from.
I'm glad you liked the porridge scene. It was fun and Eärwen is a fascinating character, one whom I have not written much about unfortunately, though perhaps someday I will.
Any oaths Sador gives Finrod or even Arafinwë would be what you might call garden-variety oaths, oaths given between vassal and liege where the vassal promises to be loyal, very much like the oath Pippin gives to Denethor. It would be the same oath that Finrod would give to his father as his king and we see this in the Findaráto Diaries. Some oaths are not as dangerous as others.
Glorfindel is still early in his re-embodiment, so there are some aspects of his death that he hasn't dealt with yet, whereas Finrod has had a good century to come to terms with his and we see it here.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a review. It's much appreciated.
hawkeye
· 24 September 2014
· Chapter 17: An Elleth Scorned
You weren't joking when you said Amarië would see the light in a future chapter! On the one hand, I'm happy that she finally got a talking to, but oddly enough I'm a bit sad that it had to come to that. While she hasn't been a very likable character so far, I can see her point in some respects. She lost her love once, and now it must feel like she's losing him again. I think her response, misplaced though it may be, is probably more common than I'd like to admit. When you want something, especially something you've lost before, you grab for it harder the next time around. Ultimately I think it comes back to love versus fear. Love, real love, is patient and endures all and hopes. But in the face of fear, I think it gets twisted. She thinks she's loving Finrod, but really she's trying to keep him from abandoning her again. I love how Námo is able to help her release that. In a lot of ways, I think that's what God does for us.
On a side note, Amarië is either the bravest or the craziest elleth ever. I can't imagine anyone else slapping a Vala in the face, much less that one. Being called a symbol, no matter how noble, could be very hurtful, especially if, as I think Amarië was, you were hurting already.
I also really enjoyed seeing Námo and Vairë again. Their love is both beautiful and terrible in its depth and its perfection. That too, I think, is a reflection of Ilúvatar, whose love can't be comprehended.
I can't wait to see Finrod's reaction to Amarië's present. Hopefully now that she's been able to spend her anger she will be able to really show Finrod the love that she has for him. He needs her and her love, probably more than either of them realize. I do wonder how much or what Arafinwë thinks of the whole thing. I suspect that he knows they will be good for each other, otherwise he would probably have sent Amarië away for good. Anyway, I've babbled enough here. Thank you for another lovely chapter :)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. When you get around to reading "In Darkness Bound" you will see Amarië in a different light, I think, as you will encounter her long before she and Finrod even became betrothed. At the same time you will see how she came to be the way she is here, or at least the germ of that transformation. We know very little about her from the Silmarillion, only that she was Finrod's betroth and that she was forbidden from following him into exile and that's it. I decided that even when Finrod returned to Aman it would not be easy for either of them to pick up where they had left off in their relationship. We will see how things progress between them from hereon out.
And the love between Námo and Vairë is indeed a reflection of Ilúvatar's love for us and I think it important that we see this through the love between these two rather than from any of the other Valar. No one stops to think what it means for Námo, the dread Lord of Mandos, to be married to anyone. Vairë's no fool and would not cleave to one who was a cold-hearted bastard as Námo is often depicted.
Anyway, thanks for reviewing. I appreciate it.
hawkeye
· 23 September 2014
· Chapter 16: Progress
So many interesting insights in this chapter. Olwë especially continues to amaze me, especially in his interactions with his grandson and Sador. He shows a lot of wisdom in an understated way. I'm glad he was able to talk about Alqualondë with Finrod, though I sure it took a lot of courage on both their parts. I would be interested to read more about Olwë, and his own journey. I'm sure forgiving those involved in the kinslaying was not easy, even if he only blamed Feanor for that.
Arafinwë and Olwë's concern for Sador was interesting to me. It's almost as if they know something everyone else doesn't. That too, in a way, is a reflection on what it means to be a good monarch. They are concerned for people beyond their nobles and people at court. So Olwë is going to learn Sindarin? That will mean a lot to his Sindarin subjects, maybe more than he realizes. It was fun to see him make the effort though.
Okay, the image of Námo laughing himself silly almost had me laughing myself silly. The elves have no idea what they're missing. That aside, Arafinwë's plans for Sador did surprise me, but they make so much sense. Given his history, I think Finrod will appreciate Sador's contributions more than others would, but hopefully that example will encourage other people to start taking the Sindar more seriously.
Ahh, I should read "In Darkness Bound." Perhaps that will be my next read. As always, thank you for another lovely chapter. Your writing is always a joy to read.
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. Olwë intrigues me as well and I wish I could find the right story to highlight him more, but we'll be seeing more of him particularly in Elf, Interrupted 2. I think you will enjoy reading him when you get to that part of the story.
As for their interest in Sador, whether they know anything about him or not, they are naturally concerned for someone who is essentially an orphan and being parents themselves, they certainly would feel paternal toward him considering that Sador was barely out of elflinghood when he died, so he's very, very young by elven standards, not having seen even his first century yet.
"In Darkness Bound" isn't easy reading for obvious reasons but we do see something of Amanian society prior to the Darkening as well as learn what happened after Fëanor and his crew left, or at least what I imagined might have happened since Tolkien never tells us.
At any rate, thanks for reviewing this story. I'm glad you are enjoying it.
hawkeye
· 22 September 2014
· Chapter 15: An Unexpected Meeting
Poor Sador. He needed lots of hugs in this chapter. Being Reborn would be intimidating enough, but to add to that, he's in Aman among the Noldor with the Noldoran. For someone who doesn't come from a royal background, I'm sure he feels way out of his depth. While I was hoping he would find Glorfindel and Finrod in the tree, I'm not surprised he just stayed away. Hopefully those two can draw him out a bit more. And Arafinwë as well.
Olwë was amazing. The minute you said he was like Celeborn (or Celeborn was like him ;), he immediately went to favorite status. Silly perhaps, but I really love Celeborn. In any case, I really liked seeing how you write Olwë. There is a genuineness about him coupled with the necessarily strong personality of being a monarch that makes him quite likable. I was especially impressed by his attitude towards Finrod and what happened in the Kinslaying. The total lack of bitterness is what surprised me the most, and didn't at the same time. It would be a natural response, I think, but to see him rise above that was wonderful.
I think Glorfindel and Finrod need to chase Sador more often. If nothing else it keeps Arafinwë young ;) Thank you for another fun read :)
hawkeye
· 20 September 2014
· Chapter 14: Adjustments
Sometimes I do wonder why Lord Námo didn't release them all together, but I'm sure he had his reasons. I think Finrod is going to mature a lot faster now. Glorfindel is the best medicine for him, and ironically, I think Sador is too though for another reason. Glorfindel will challenge Finrod's feelings in insecurity in a way no one else can. Interestingly, he actually felt a lot more mature in this chapter than Finrod did when he first came to Tirion. Perhaps that's just because of the comparison though. I think having Sador around will push Finrod to take charge more, and maybe even help him remember some of the qualities he had as king of Nargothrond. For instance, when he gets so upset about how Sador being treated and Sador's comment that he knows his place. Maybe this will give Finrod something tangible to work towards or, to put it another way, someone who needs a defender. I'm not sure Finrod has really had that yet, though he has been troubled by the treatment of the Reborn by other elves.
Arafinwë also has grown a lot (is that possible at his age? ... That's not intended to be insulting *hides*). Anyway, I thought it was significant that he was able to admit that even he hadn't really been treating Finrod the way that he needed to be treated. He's a king, true, and one would hope that a king would have that strength of character, but it still takes a strong person to admit their faults without excuse. Regardless, I am really enjoying reading more about him, as I've always been curious.
"No... sons. It seemed that Lord Námo could not give him back all his other children yet, so instead he had given him two orphans who needed his love and support. In retrospect he decided it was an equitable trade." This was beautiful, and something I wondered at when I read the last chapter. I'm so glad Arafinwë is both able and willing to adopt these two. As an adoptee myself, perhaps this is more significant to me than it should be. I guess what I'm trying to say is, there's more than bloodlines that make a family. But either way, I'm so glad that both Glorfindel and Sador have a family. And after all, Arafinwë has Reborn raising experience this time around, so he should be a pro by now, right? :P
Thank you for another amazing chapter, Fiondil :)
Author's reply
Hi Hawkeye. The main reason Námo didn't release them at the same time is that neither Glorfindel nor Sador were spiritually ready, you might say. They still needed time to heal. FInrod had resided in Mandos longer than the other two so he was already healed when he was released. And everything happens when it should and in due time.
Arafinwë has certainly matured over the ages if you compare him here with how he was in my story "In Darkness Bound" and that only makes sense. All of us should still be growing in wisdom no matter how mature we think we are. And here we see that Arafinwë accepts the "gift" of these two "orphans" for what they are and welcomes them joyfully into his family. Doing so will have great consequences for many as we will eventually see.
Thanks for reviewing. I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter.