Dreamflower
· 2 September 2007
· Chapter 28: Judgments Made
I really *like* your Lord Halladan! He has seen to it that Barti knows the truth now--but only because he knows that the hobbit had already pieced together most of the story, and out of a need to defend Frodo from the charge of cowardice. I'm glad that Mac knows, too. And Sara and Esme will get the rest of the story soon enough...
And I concur with the Breelanders, that Halladan was more than fair enough to Cotman. It remains to be seen if that Man realizes just what a close call he had to hanging, and whether he is grateful to have escaped with his life.
Author's reply
Probably Halladan was far, far too fair with Cotman, as he didn't have his property simply confiscated, and he now has perhaps more than its worth to start over, although he will have to start over with very little. His scheme didn't work, and in the end he did little enough damage, I suppose. And Safflower has had a reality check as well, for the fact he even considered helping Cotman could easily have cost him his own life.
And Barti has pretty much all of the story, although whether or not he understands Frodo's reasons for not wanting people to understand what they did is still questionable.
It's still over a year before Sara and Esme will understand, but they will know before Frodo leaves the Shire, at least.
The first taste of the King's justice for the folk of the Breelands, and I suspect they're seeing the new Steward isn't just arbitrary, which indicates the new King is likely to be rather a good thing for the Breelands as well.
Thanks for the response.
Now, we wants to see how the plotbunny's growing, of course....
Kitty
· 1 September 2007
· Chapter 27: Contract Signed
Ha, I knew it, there is something going on between Denra and Alvric! They’re on the way to romance, no doubt. This ambush against Alvric is the perfect occasion for Denra to fuss over him :-) Now I begin to wonder where they will end up – Bree or Minas Tirith ... particularly as Denra is interested in the Archives there. They’re sweet together.
At least Boboli has his papers, and this problem is solved. Though I think there still is Bartolo to be convinced of certain things ;-)
I look forward to know what will happen to the villains.
Author's reply
Yes, now the two of them are truly beginning to appreciate one another. And there's nothing like having someone threatened to realize how much you appreciate them. As for where they might end up--that's still to be determined.
Boboli finally has his lease. As for Bartolo--he still has a good deal to learn.
As for the trials for these villains--the chapter's been written and should be posted in a day or two.
harrowcat
· 1 September 2007
· Chapter 27: Contract Signed
So the contract is signed, we are about to see what the King's magistrates are like at work and the romance is blossoming. A satisfying chapter all round. And Dreamflower has found a little plotbunny alurking! *hands it dandelions and carrots to help it grow big and strong*.
Author's reply
Yes, the contract is signed now and three villains will shortly be brought before Lord Halladan. And Alvric and Denra are beginning to realize they like one another.
As for Dreamflower's plotbunny--may it grow strong and healthy and delightful!
Thanks so much for the comments.
SurgicalSteel
· 31 August 2007
· Chapter 27: Contract Signed
Looks like an understanding's developing between Alvric and Denra!
Another enjoyable chapter!
Author's reply
Yes, an understanding is beginning. And am so glad you like it. Now--what's next with Serinde? Heh!
Dreamflower
· 31 August 2007
· Chapter 27: Contract Signed
Yay! for Alvric and Denra! Matchmaking again, Larner, I see! *grin* Hmm...will Alvric remain in the North? Or will he take Denra to live in the King's City?
"brave as a hobbit". Hmm...I can see that phrase passing into common use in Gondor, where it might be said of some person or creature that they were "brave as a hobbit"...especially if it were in reference to something small being brave, like Holby!
In fact, you've given me a bunny...
I look forward to seeing Cotman get his due...
Author's reply
Well, you know I like matchmaking, Dreamflower! As for how they will handle things--that remains to be seen. Cotman's sentence just got written this morning, and ought to be posted in a few days, probably from Portland just before I meet Lindelea and the girls and friends for tea.
YAY! I managed to send a bunny your way! Hooray! Now, to see what how it manages to chew up your leg before it's written out. Those that have fastened on me are turning up all over the place, one nuzgul sitting on top of the true crime bookcase, and another playing about the stream that runs along the eastern border of the property. I have to watch out for that one, as it attacks me in the middle of the night. Likes to sneak in through the window where the cats tore the screen out and that they use to go in and out, I find.
Anyway, looking forward to more of your postings. Happy Labor Day.
Antane
· 11 August 2007
· Chapter 26: A Conspiracy of One
Is Bracegriddle being to see the light - or should I say Light? - at last? Hmmm...
Namarie, God bless, Antane :)
Author's reply
Barti's a stubborn one, Antane. No, still not wanting to see the light, much less the Light--not yet, at least.
Kitty
· 11 August 2007
· Chapter 26: A Conspiracy of One
Ah yes, Bender Cotman! Had already wondered when he would show up again. It was so clear he would try to get to Denra again. But I hadn’t expected him to try to murder Alvric – seems a bit much. But well, what can one expect from these villains – too stupid for their own good.
Have to admit Cotman did a creditable job to try and make it look like Safflower did it, but in the end it appears he only managed to get a witness against himself. And the latter could be true of Jape, too *evil grin*
Mac to the rescue! That was wholly unexpected – I had always thought one of the Rangers would be the saviour. But I *loved* it! It’s a bit surprising Bender didn’t even hear the pony’s hooves, but he was probably too intend on looking for Alvric to watch his surroundings, too. Well, his own fault. How embarassing for him to have been felled by a hobbit! And it was Berenion who taught Mac? Aragorn will be pleased to know it was his kinsman who in the long run taught Frodo his punch :-)
I have to admit I begin to feel amused how sour Barti is looking every time someone is mentioning Frodo. But now I understand – when Barti thought all these years *Frodo* has spied on the lasses, this explains a lot. Though it proves he doesn’t know Frodo at all if he thinks Frodo would do that.
Halladan, Hardorn, and I all proved more strongly gifted than many others, Don’t you mean Halbarad here, as it is Halladan speaking?
Author's reply
I done it again. Doesn't seem to matter how many times I reread them or others read them--there's always some blooper like this one that needs editing! Thanks for catching it for me, Kitty. Have corrected it here, at least.
Those who try things like this tend to be extraordinarily self-centered, and so often miss the obvious, such as the fact that they're being observed.
I felt that this time Hobbits ought to get the credit, with a bit of training from a Ranger. Yes, I think Aragorn would feel proud! Heh!
And poor Barti is caught in the tangle of his own expectations and lack of appreciation for Frodo's true nature, although part of the real reason he was angry that the return of Bag End still remains to be exposed.
Again, thanks for the feedback and the correction.
Bodkin
· 10 August 2007
· Chapter 26: A Conspiracy of One
Maybe what matters most is that a hobbit does think. After that his mind might begin to take in rather more of the information that has always been available to him!
That Cotman is a nasty - and exceptionally dim - piece of work. Bree will be better off without him around. Not only planning violence, and inflicting himself on Denra, but also up to framing someone else for it all. Very unpleasant. Good thing Merimac turned up just when he did. And with his fists trained for action.
Author's reply
Barti still has some tangles to work through, unfortunately. He's had to fight years of resentment and misinterpretation of what he saw and thought he saw and a good bit of resentment that Bag End went back to Frodo in the end--after all, as Lobelia's closest living relative (along with Lavinia) he OUGHT to have inherited it from her....
And folk like Cotman do tend to be pretty stupid and self-absorbed. I follow a court case in Arkansas where the two most likely suspects are both pretty sorry specimens--and why the local police department decided to focus on three trailer-trash teens instead of properly working the case has folks stymied all over the world! Heh!
As for Mac--I like to see him come into his own now and then.
Oh, did you ever look at no. 35 in Moments in Time?
Linda Hoyland
· 9 August 2007
· Chapter 26: A Conspiracy of One
Good for the Rangers !Cotman is a nasty piece of work.
Author's reply
Yes, one more petty soul removed from circulation.
Thanks so for the feedback!
Baggins Babe
· 9 August 2007
· Chapter 26: A Conspiracy of One
Bender Cotman deserves everything I hope he's about to get - fancy kicking poor brave little Holby! No punishment is too bad for him. I was so relieved when I realised Holby was (hopefully) going to be alright.
Poor confused Barti - I hope he realises his error of judgement soon and comes to recognise Frodo's special qualities.
Another masterful chapter, Larner.
Author's reply
Oh, and thank you, Baggins Babe. Bender wasn't expecting to get caught, of course; but then best laid plans of mice and men and all that!
Poor Barti indeed--every time he thinks he has Frodo pegged another new wrinkle comes to light and he has to rethink things, and he's not all that flexible to begin with.
Thanks so for the feedback.
Dreamflower
· 8 August 2007
· Chapter 26: A Conspiracy of One
When I began to read the chapter, and saw what Cotman was plotting, I wondered how it would be foiled. At first I thought it would be in the stables, and Alvric's horse would defend him; then I thought of Holby. And even though you had dropped *tons* of clues and hints all along, it didn't dawn on me till he came through the gate that it would be Merimac. I loved the description of how he felled the Man--lovely, just lovely!
So now we know what Bartolo's grudge was. And if his assumptions had been true (and based on his own observation, it would have been a *reasonable* assumption), it's quite possible he'd have been justified in not liking Frodo. Thing is, I'm not sure Frodo would have set him straight if he'd ever asked--Frodo would have been just as likely to simply ask him if he really believed that of him, and refused to answer. Now, of course, he's got years of misplaced resentment to overcome. Which is all too likely to present its own set of complications.
Author's reply
It's always nice to find I've managed to surprise someone. Yes, in this case Mac to the rescue, and we learn a bit more of the connections between the Hobbits of the Shire and the Rangers who guarded their borders.
I suspect you're all too right about what Frodo might have said and done when faced with the question of what he'd been doing. And years of resentment are difficult to undo.
Thanks so much for the feedback.
Bodkin
· 2 August 2007
· Chapter 25: Correcting Misunderstandings
Poor blinkered Barti. Delphinium could tell him, I suppose, but it wouldn't have the same effect.
At least Frodo can appreciate the amount of Baggins in Barti's children. And Begonia's suspicions have been aroused about Fosco and Forsythia.
Author's reply
Yes, Barti is far too limited by being who and what he is as a stereotypical Bracegirdle; and the twins are first seen by the Bracegirdle children. And all three of these Travelers recognize the Baggins in Delphinium and Bartolo's children.
So glad of the feedback, Bodkin; and looking forward to something new from you! Heh!
Thank goodness the children take after their mother and have the Baggins sensitivity and intuition, unlike poor Barti who is so solidly and stolidly Bracegirdle.
I hope Sam gives Barti a good talking-to soon but I'm glad Pip and Merry had their say to Frodo, and I'm so pleased that Merry recognises the children's good qualities. I just wish Frodo would stop feeling so much guilt.
Author's reply
Actually, Sam gave Barti's his talking-to in the last chapter; part of this chapter is a bit out of sync. And once he's past his suspicions of the children as Barti's offspring Merry's able to appreciate that they are equally Delphinium's.
As for Frodo--the PTSD is growing worse, and until he goes over the Sea he's not likely to get much better.
Antane
· 1 August 2007
· Chapter 25: Correcting Misunderstandings
Oh, dear Sam, promising not to tell Bracegriddle that he's a ninnyhammer, but not promising he won't think it! I applaud Pippin's attempts to try to explain that his ever so stubborn cousin is not the complete failure he thinks he is. Most wonderful to hear Frodo laugh. Love second most the horror that Frodo feels at the thought of being without Sam. How hard it must have been to make the decision to leave, to realize that there was a greater force in his life than that incredible love and he had to leave to heal from that terrible wound.
Namarie, God bless, Antane :)
Author's reply
Sam's Sam, and fully honest, of course. And he'll see to it his Master's honor is defended, even from abrasive Bracegirdles. And of course Pippin and Merry are equally determined to the same purpose.
As for Frodo--he is beginning to appreciate just how wounded he is at a deeper level, and is becoming aware that perhaps his dependence on Sam may not be the most healthy thing for either of them; but for now he does need it and cannot yet bear to be away from it.
He and Sam are both meant to be whole, and unfortunately for him to be whole he must leave in the end; only to have the wholeness of Sam's companionship restored when it is right and proper for it, when it is no longer the dependence of illness but the proper companionship of those who are each whole in themselves.
Linda Hoyland
· 31 July 2007
· Chapter 25: Correcting Misunderstandings
Being Mayor is a tough job for sensitive Frodo. I loved Begonia's vision.
Author's reply
I think he must have made a wonderful deputy Mayor--there had to be a reason he didn't run on his own!
And I suspect Begonia would have been as sensitive to the story as her sisters, at least! I tend to feel sorry for their dad, myself.
Thanks for the feedback.
cookiefleck
· 31 July 2007
· Chapter 25: Correcting Misunderstandings
Glad to see Sam playing a larger role in the story, and the situation. And good for Merry and Pippin, too. Frodo needs to face up to what happened and speak plainly, for his own sake and for the sake of the Shire, whose citizens should know the truth and honor its heroes. With a little help from his friends, perhaps that will happen.
Author's reply
Yes, Sam has also grown; and the one who best appreciates it and wishes for the entire Shire to know is Frodo himself. Now, if only he would do the same for himself. Yes, with a little help from his friends....
Thank you so much for the feedback.
Kitty
· 31 July 2007
· Chapter 25: Correcting Misunderstandings
Ah, so Bilbo’s story of running away without a handkerchief (shocking!) is the reason Sam is always carrying some with him? Odd side effect of the story *grin*
Sam and the two cousins know Frodo very well, and it was good to watch how protective they are of him (not to mention Brendi and the Took lawyers at the end). I don’t doubt Sam will give Barti a piece of his mind, really!
This chapter is showing how much Frodo needs them, as he’s panicking at the mere thought of living on his own.
Do I need to tell you how much I enjoyed Merry and Pippin here? Mother Sam, indeed! And they didn’t allow Frodo to hide his fame the way he wanted and helped the Bracegirdle children to understand even more! *beams* Well, you know already how I think about this matter, and so you’ll probably understand why I am *very* satisfied with this chapter.
Delphie proved very insightful about Frodo’s reaction to the matter of Saruman. And I am glad that she and her older children, even if not her husband, caught what Elrohir and Elladan were singing about. (Btw, it was nice to have this one detail here another time - I love the twins).
Author's reply
Well, Bilbo's stories have to have had an effect on as malleable a child as Samwise Gamgee was, to the point he purposely packed things he was certain Frodo wouldn't think to take for himself, or so the Master tells us. Sam's always been the gardener and nurturer; now Frodo's facing up to the fact he's dependent on that nurturing nature to see him through life, and I suspect he both appreciates it and is becoming somewhat worried by it, not wishing his own dependency to draw Sam from actually living his own life as fully as possible.
Yes, Mother Sam! And am so glad you appreciate how Merry and Pippin openly defy Frodo here to let at least Barti's children appreciate just what he did and how hard it must have been to do.
And am so glad so many appear to appreciate the twins singing here. Thanks so much!
Pryderi
· 31 July 2007
· Chapter 25: Correcting Misunderstandings
Another fine chapter Larner and a moving bardic interpolation.
However I would have pedantic comments wouldn't I? I thought that the family met Glorinlas Gildorion on the way to Bree yet they remember meeting his father Gildor Inglorion. Was that your intention? Oh and "our King's ancestry Isildur" should perhaps be "ancestor"?
Neither are important but at least the first one demonstrates my continuing interest in this tale!
Thanks for a very enjoyable chapter.
Pryderi.
Author's reply
Oh, Pryderi, you can't imagine how glad you caught these! No matter how many times these are gone over, it appears there are always a couple of foolish errors per chapter that sneak by! Thank you so very much!
And am so glad you found it enjoyable! Thanks again!
Dreamflower
· 31 July 2007
· Chapter 25: Correcting Misunderstandings
I love the way you caught the post-Quest dynamic of the Travellers. Merry and Sam are still in a Conspiracy--this one to make sure that Frodo gets his due:
“I’ll bet Frodo provoked him,” Merry muttered, looking off toward the door. Then he looked back at Sam and smiled slyly. “But even Frodo won’t think to tell off the Lord Perhael for speaking to him, you know.”
Sam shrugged and glanced briefly in the direction of the town square. “I’ll sort him out,” Sam said with quiet determination.
And I expect that he will be very well sorted indeed!
As for Pippin, he's no longer quite the submissive baby cousin anymore:
Pippin gave a very loud sigh. “Oh, so he’s found out your deep, dark secret, did he--that at the last moment you were taken by a force no mortal nor Elf nor Wizard could hope to withstand, and couldn’t finish it yourself--had to see someone else do it--fall into the fire so that you and Sam and the rest of Middle Earth could remain free and safe, so that Sauron could be defeated? Is that it, Frodo Baggins?”
Frodo’s face had gone very white. “I don’t wish it spoken of, Peregrin Took,” he whispered.
Pippin ignored him as he looked back to Persivo.
He's not to be left out when it comes to taking care of Frodo! And I love the way he spills the beans so concisely and rebelliously--you can tell Pippin's had quite enough of Frodo trying to hide his own accomplishments!
And then the bit with the children explaining how they figured it all out, LOL! No, these are not "blockheaded Bracegirdles" at all.
It is, truly, a shame Frodo could not have at least finished out one term as Mayor--he would have been so good for the Shire. But I loved seeing that moment once more, of the Peredhil twins singing his praise at the Free Fair! That's one bit of your fanon I can never get enough of. I'd love to see it from either Elladan's or Elrohir's POV sometime, as well.
Author's reply
Yes, the Conspiracy still lives, and precisely as you point out. Sam won't allow folks to say things about his Master! No way! And Pippin is now indeed the future Thain in the making, who won't see lights hidden under bushes--or self-blame. The three of Frodo's companions on the great journey are now insisting on him being accepted as the marvelous being he is.
These children hold the best of their mixed Baggins and Bracegirdle ancestry, and their ability to analyze and synthesize information won't be held down. They, and particularly Petunia and Persivo, have the sensitivity their oh-so-Bracegirdle father doesn't have, and all of them are perfectly capable of putting puzzles together.
As for Frodo himself--he may not have as yet realized just how fragile emotionally he's yet to become, much less the physical decline that goes along with the growing PTSD, but he's enough self-aware to realize he's not recovered fully enough to keep on with these weekly jaunts between Bag End and Michel Delving, and growing more aware of how much he now depends on Sam. He's been good for the Shire, but how much good will he do if he starts getting ill regularly?
And am so glad that the visit of Elladan and Elrohir mean so much to you. As for their own point of view--I just might write that one day, you know! Heh!
harrowcat
· 31 July 2007
· Chapter 25: Correcting Misunderstandings
Sam always manages to make me smile, even in the worst of situations. From his never-ending supply of handkerchiefs, (quite a signature trait in your tales,) to his disarming honesty, (I can't promise not to think it!)
I provoked him, Sam, and he did not understand what I said.”
I thought of Jesus on the cross with this - Father forgive them, they know not what they do!
“But I want them to realize you are important, Sam.”
“They will, Mr. Frodo, just you wait and see. But I’ll let ’em take their time gettin’ used to the idea, like.”
Sam is a gardener and truly knows how to let things grow. Such wisdom in dealing with the 'ordinary' people. But then Frodo, and others recognise that! *G* You ARE getting my initial thoughts as I read and I am obviously following you correctly so far!
“I’m with Gandalf and Aragorn and Gimli, Samwise Gamgee--the Gaffer definitely misnamed you, my beloved Lord Panthael.”
Pressure on that part of your neck really would make you feel ill I would imagine.
I am glad that Frodo realises just how much he needs his support network, especially Sam, and doesn't seek to retreat from that too. That way leads to self-neglect and suicide!
You mean that Lotho’s had that stickpin all these years? I swear--every time I think I can’t learn anything that makes me think the worse of your father’s cousin I manage to do so anyway. He was such a loathsome thing--he and Timono truly deserved one another!”
Lotho really is the antithesis of most hobbits. The more you learn the less you like!
The more I hear about the Free Fair the more I want to go! My childhood memories include the Annual 'Mop' - the remains of a medievael hiring and firing fair held in Warwick. The highlight of the year.
I am glad that Persivo finds Frodo early.
Persivo straightened at the insult. “I’ll remind you,” he said with spirit, “that our mother’s a Baggins, and quite proud of it, really. And just because Dad has some grudge against her cousin he won’t tell doesn’t mean she’ll allow us to carry it, too.”
Good for him!
Good for Pippin too! Love the way that he stands by his Role rather than his relationship to Frodo. A little distance might have made it just a bit easier.
And he can’t seem to appreciate that the Creator had found a way to get It away from him before It destroyed him utterly--better the loss of one finger than you and Sam and It, Frodo Baggins.”
“If only it had been but the loss of one finger----”
“Even had you done what you’d intended, he still would have died, Frodo. You know what he told Sam--that when It was gone he’d die, die into the dust. You know he was right.”
And this is really the heart of this period of time isn't it!
The salute of Meriadoc the Magnificant to the Bracegirdle children! Now there is a true accolade from one conspirator to others!
Ha! You clear up this and then stir the pot with Begonia seeing the twins with Frodo!
It was apparently a song of an Elven warrior who fought in a war in a place called Mordor, a warrior who at the end faced the Enemy himself alongside a great King of Men, and together they managed to bring him down, although the two of them died doing so.
I love the recurring themes in Tolkien and history in general!
Begonia cast a quick look at her brothers and sisters. Persi and Pet, she realized, had seen much the same images as she had, and Persivo was shining at the moment almost as much as had been Cousin Frodo himself. Then she saw her older brother exchange a glance with their mother, and knew that the two of them each saw the other shared the same understanding of what the song had been about.
An understanding more of the heart but informed by the head I think!
A brilliant chapter Larner.
Now I'm off to help at home for a week; about as much as I can take in one go I afraid to say!
Mum has her annual appointment with her MS Consultant. I can't wait to have my say to this woman but I promise to be more of a Baggins than a Bracegirdle I promise.
Author's reply
I wrote a response earlier, and again Hughes appears to have eaten it or spat it out somewhere else. The handkerchiefs sort of grew out of the idea that Sam purposely packed the little things Frodo didn't think of or thought of as needless that he suspected would be necessary to bring out in triumph when needed; if he always seemed to try to anticipate Frodo's needs, wouldn't he do similarly with handkerchiefs, and couldn't it have been sparked by Bilbo's own tales? So, this slipped in. And the idea of the history of Middle Earth ending up being sung that night grew out of the thought that this would be a part of the way the four of them tried to prepare their people to think of themselves as part of the greater outer realm. When the Master himself made the story of Frodo and Sam a continuation of the tale of the theft of the Silmarils and the exploits of Beren and Luthien, that the Travelers would seek to pass on this appreciation to the folk of the Shire seemed likely.
All three of Frodo's companions would have wished to see him properly honored, and I do think they'd work at trying to keep him from morbid imaginings and undeserved criticism from himself as well as from others. And Pippin's Pippin, but he's also the future Thain in the making who knows from grim experience that sometimes orders need to be overlooked when they work to the ill of the very ones issuing them. At first Merry's suspicious because the children are Bartolo's offspring; but when he realizes how much they are those of Delphie also and how much they've figured out on their own he appreciates it all and offers them the respect they deserve.
Sam has the patience of his calling, and the caring of his nature. Frodo may not have begun openly failing as yet, but he's sufficiently self-aware to realize he's not getting better as he ought to do; and I suspect the decision not to accept election would have been a considered one on his part.
One of the highlights of my year since 1955 has been going to the Puyallup Fair in September; and I'd suspect the Free Fair would be similar to a state fair without the rides--contests, games, food of all sorts, craftsmen presenting samples of their skills and taking orders, women showing off their handiwork and cooking and competing with one another, farmer showing off the most wonderful of their crops and stock for the last year and arranging sales and breeding deals, shepherds selling off the small items they've crafted during the quiet times when their flocks were behaving, flock masters comparing bales of wool, spinsters competing for the finest threads and yarns produced and the finest weavings and yarnwork and embroidery; candy apples and scones and doughnuts and pasties and the odd Dwarf vendor here and there selling kitchen and utility knives, buckles and hardware, axes and arrow tips, game sets carved of stone, fine tableware, sets of beads of malachite and amethyst and aventurine, finely carved boxes and pipes and steins....
I, too, would wish to go, and I'd love to go to the Mop, I think.
Pressure on the spinal column can cause so many problems; and I know how my husband's minor strokes affecting the brain stem led to multiple problems, from suppressed breathing to problems with balance and occasionally orientation. When my neck is out I have more migraines and problems just sleeping.
Now the Bracegirdle and Baggins children just begin to become aware of one another, and we see that the Baggins legacy isn't lost to the Shire when Frodo and Bilbo sail to Tol Eressea. The remarkable sensitivity and intelligence and common sense of the Bagginses is now wed to Bracegirdle directness, bringing out the best of both lines. And the children realize that they share something with their mother their father is incapable of appreciating, and grieve for that as they accept it as true.
Thank you so much for the long review. And good luck with the MS consultant. One of my best friend's MS has been arrested basically for the past twenty years, while that of the mother of a friend has become progressively worse, tying her now to a wheelchair. It is such an odd disease. Glad you plan to be diplomatic in your discussions! Heh!
And love to the folks and Jet.
Author Reply: I wrote a response earlier, and again Hughes appears to have eaten it or spat it out somewhere else. The handkerchiefs sort of grew out of the idea that Sam purposely packed the little things Frodo didn't think of or thought of as needless that he suspected would be necessary to bring out in triumph when needed; if he always seemed to try to anticipate Frodo's needs, wouldn't he do similarly with handkerchiefs, and couldn't it have been sparked by Bilbo's own tales? So, this slipped in. And the idea of the history of Middle Earth ending up being sung that night grew out of the thought that this would be a part of the way the four of them tried to prepare their people to think of themselves as part of the greater outer realm. When the Master himself made the story of Frodo and Sam a continuation of the tale of the theft of the Silmarils and the exploits of Beren and Luthien, that the Travelers would seek to pass on this appreciation to the folk of the Shire seemed likely.
All three of Frodo's companions would have wished to see him properly honored, and I do think they'd work at trying to keep him from morbid imaginings and undeserved criticism from himself as well as from others. And Pippin's Pippin, but he's also the future Thain in the making who knows from grim experience that sometimes orders need to be overlooked when they work to the ill of the very ones issuing them. At first Merry's suspicious because the children are Bartolo's offspring; but when he realizes how much they are those of Delphie also and how much they've figured out on their own he appreciates it all and offers them the respect they deserve.
Sam has the patience of his calling, and the caring of his nature. Frodo may not have begun openly failing as yet, but he's sufficiently self-aware to realize he's not getting better as he ought to do; and I suspect the decision not to accept election would have been a considered one on his part.
One of the highlights of my year since 1955 has been going to the Puyallup Fair in September; and I'd suspect the Free Fair would be similar to a state fair without the rides--contests, games, food of all sorts, craftsmen presenting samples of their skills and taking orders, women showing off their handiwork and cooking and competing with one another, farmer showing off the most wonderful of their crops and stock for the last year and arranging sales and breeding deals, shepherds selling off the small items they've crafted during the quiet times when their flocks were behaving, flock masters comparing bales of wool, spinsters competing for the finest threads and yarns produced and the finest weavings and yarnwork and embroidery; candy apples and scones and doughnuts and pasties and the odd Dwarf vendor here and there selling kitchen and utility knives, buckles and hardware, axes and arrow tips, game sets carved of stone, fine tableware, sets of beads of malachite and amethyst and aventurine, finely carved boxes and pipes and steins....
I, too, would wish to go, and I'd love to go to the Mop, I think.
Pressure on the spinal column can cause so many problems; and I know how my husband's minor strokes affecting the brain stem led to multiple problems, from suppressed breathing to problems with balance and occasionally orientation. When my neck is out I have more migraines and problems just sleeping.
Now the Bracegirdle and Baggins children just begin to become aware of one another, and we see that the Baggins legacy isn't lost to the Shire when Frodo and Bilbo sail to Tol Eressea. The remarkable sensitivity and intelligence and common sense of the Bagginses is now wed to Bracegirdle directness, bringing out the best of both lines. And the children realize that they share something with their mother their father is incapable of appreciating, and grieve for that as they accept it as true.
Thank you so much for the long review. And good luck with the MS consultant. One of my best friend's MS has been arrested basically for the past twenty years, while that of the mother of a friend has become progressively worse, tying her now to a wheelchair. It is such an odd disease. Glad you plan to be diplomatic in your discussions! Heh!
And love to the folks and Jet.
SurgicalSteel
· 28 July 2007
· Chapter 24: Hero or Coward?
Haven't been good about reviewing lately, for which I'm sorry, but I have been reading and enjoying.
The argument between Frodo and Barti was very well done - and I wonder if Frodo might have revealed so much about what happened precisely because he knew Barti was willing to believe the worst of him and he wanted to hear the condemnation coming from somewhere outside of himself for a change?
Author's reply
I suspect you're right about Frodo perhaps wanting confirmation he's not so wonderful after all. Sometimes we are so bent on personal ills it's a wonder we don't crawl all over everyone who disagrees with us. And I've certainly seen some individuals who WANT to believe everyone else is arguing with them. Heh!
Kitty
· 28 July 2007
· Chapter 24: Hero or Coward?
It’s about time to drag me out of Hogwarts at the scruff of my neck and return to Middle-earth ...
Quite a difficult situation for Barti, to be pestered with questions he’s not allowed to answer. Well, at least after Frodo left the Shire and Sam and the others started telling stories, I suppose there’s no reason for him to keep his silence about what the Travellers did, and maybe he finds out the rest, as well.
And it seems we’re getting closer to the reason why Barti despises Frodo so much.
But honestly, when Frodo told Barti he was a coward, I wanted to shake some sense into him! Glad Sam overheard, but still, he didn’t tell Barti enough to help him to truly understand, I fear.
Oh, and I *finally* got the DVD and enjoyed it greatly! It was truly fun to watch! Thank you again!
Author's reply
I got my copy of HP last Saturday and had it finished about mid-afternoon Sunday. I, too, had a bit of a return to make. That about the Elder Wand and Wand-lore was fascinating, and I'm so glad they got Ollivander back.
Frodo isn't feeling well and is feeling terribly down on himself; and Barti's perhaps too ready to agree with Frodo's own self-perception, unfortunately.
And so glad you finally got to see Nanny McPhee ant to hear you enjoyed it so thoroughly. The daughter was watching it day before yesterday, and it was so fun to hear the part where the donkey dances for Auntie.
harrowcat
· 28 July 2007
· Chapter 24: Hero or Coward?
And so we begin to see how much Barti is being changed by this experience as soon as he reaches the Shire. And he is already spreading what information he can.
Sounds like Ricko might be another candidate for a wider world view. Glad that he is able to want the best for Persi.
Deadly dull? - that is an interesting reaction from a Shire Hobbit! Might have imagined that Ricko's reaction was that Barti would be glad to get back to ordinary life and routine now that this 'adventure' is over.
The children have really taken to the wider world, well Bree at least, very well and the relationships they have formed will benefit all concerned. Trust children though to let loose more than Barti might wish to tell.
I don't think that turning the conversation away from Frodo and the Travellers is going to work for too long. But then again, do it often enough and people will learn not to ask which will not be a good thing.
Hmm Bartolo does have a problem doesn't he? Having changed his opinion he now has to follow through. Although if he knew Frodo just a little better he wouldn't be quite so worried about his reaction. (May I revise that opinion now that I have read a little further!)
Umm, *licks lips* Ginger beer and pork pasties yes please!
Ooh the conversation between Barti and Frodo made my heart bleed for both of them. I am glad that it hasn't affected Persi's education though.
Good for Sam! But too little information to help Barti understand properly/
Looking forward to more as usual but responses may be delayed as I am going to my Parents to try and give both a bit of a rest!
Author's reply
The children are children, after all, particularly Lyssa and Ricki, and don't know to be circumspect, perhaps. So others begin learning more than they might. And we do have typical gossip behavior going here.
Poor Bartolo--he doesn't know what to believe now! Others say Frodo accomplished so much, and Frodo's saying he's a failure, and Barti doesn't have enough knowledge to appreciate why Frodo's saying what he did, so he takes him at his word. And both are hurt by their own perceptions and one another at this point. Nor will Sam allow others to belittle his beloved Mr. Frodo.
As for Persi--going to the Tooks will be a very different experience for him, and he's likely to find it both enlightening, broadening, and frustrating by turns.
Actually, I didn't particularly appreciate ginger beer when I tried it, not having grown up with it; but I could perhaps develop a taste for it. I do love lemon curd, after all.
And give my love to your folks and Jet.
Bodkin
· 28 July 2007
· Chapter 24: Hero or Coward?
Oh dear. Two steps forward, one back. It's not surprising Bartolo's opinion of Frodo can drop so quickly - it's not as if he found it easy to believe him heroic in the first place. And when the denial comes from the horse's mouth ... Perhaps Bartolo needs to consider that Frodo is clearly very fragile - and that he's good at seeing the worst in himself, even as he helps others.
Bartolo and Sam. Now that would be a confrontation and a half. If Sam chose to stand on his dignity and new rank, he could really make Barti squirm, for all his pig-headedness.
Author's reply
The horse's mouth indeed, without the benefit of knowing how holding the Ring damaged Frodo's self-esteem or understanding most of what Frodo says.
Frodo won't allow Sam to challenge Barti openly, but he's still going to give his own warning. He knows Frodo's true worth even if Frodo still denies it. And I love the idea of Sam making Barti squirm. Heh!
Antane
· 27 July 2007
· Chapter 24: Hero or Coward?
No coward indeed! Good for you, Sam, for standing up for your treasure. :) And as for you, Frodo, you stubborn Baggins, you didn't fail! I will take the Ring to Mordor and you did. Someone else had been set aside as Ring-destroyer. You were Ring-bearer. Smeagol died because it was his time, not because you cursed him. Oh, darling, you are a hero so many times over. You have taught me so much. You are my inspiration. Bracegriddle may not even like to think of you but I don't want to stop - no wonder I don't like him.
Namarie, God bless, Antane :)
Author's reply
Yes, the most Stubborn Baggins of all Stubborn Bagginses in his headache is putting himself down (remember that in a few days when he comes back for Midsummer itself it will be after the spider bite drains again), and seeing himself once more as a failure.
Barti has the facts laid out for him--"They know more than I do what I did--I don't remember a good deal of it myself..." He'll learn the full facts soon enough, I think. But until then Frodo's own words appear to condemn him. And Sam's not going to allow folks to upset his Master, particularly when he knows Frodo isn't feeling well to begin with.