Land of Light and Shadows by Thundera Tiger

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Nightwing · 7 April 2005 · Chapter 38: Dregs

Ah, that elf is magnificent. Whenever I start making my Legolas wimp out too much, I must remember to come over here and take another good look at your Legolas. This is just the way he should be; strong, resourceful, cunning, resiliant, unpredictable and dangerous as hell. I enjoyed following his lonely trek in search of a place to hide Gimli. In addition to all those potentially scary attributes, to his friends he is steadfast and loyal, and would lay down his life for them. He is sick and hurt himself, but protecting the dwarf comes first. The elf's love for his friends is absolutely fierce, if that is not too odd a description. Describing Gimli's final call to Legolas as being "like a whisper borne on a dying wind" was perfect. Time is running out for Legolas' friend, and the elf knows it, though he is trying to force the truth of mortality back by refusing to acknowledge it and by shushing Gimli's words. Your efforts to make Legolas' elvish behaviors different from men are excellent, and yet how very human that particular reaction was. Don't think it, don't speak it, and it won't happen. During moments of great crisis we all act like that sometimes. Clarify this for me if you will: is the arrow wound in Legolas' left shoulder in the front or in the back? I had been thinking it was in the back, since it happened while he was fleeing on horseback, but the elf's clutching the arrow and "drawing it forth" sounds more as if it is a front wound. The ending was fantastic. The way Legolas drew Dashnir in until he was able to strike him down was terribly exciting. But it was not surprising, and I do wish it had been. I saw it coming, and I'll tell you how I knew. There were two particular sentences earlier during Dashnir's observations of his captive that clued me into the elf's deception. "The resulting pain seemed to steal whatever strength had kept him upright...", was the first. On it's own, I might have skipped right past it. But a bit later came this one: "Seemingly unable to control himself, he sank forward..." The instant I read that sentence I said "Ah ha! Legolas is playing it up." If that first section of the sentence had been omitted so that it simply began "He sank forward..." I never would have had a clue that the elf was working it, and the tension would have been tremendous. I'd have been truly terrified for Legolas instead of just excitedly waiting for him to make his move. You gave it away a little bit. Do you see what I mean? I love the unique way you have incorporated the sea-longing into this story. It is very skillfully done and feels just right. The longing is a major aspect of Legolas' life, something he lives with every minute, and yet is is a good indicator of his inner strength that he is able to harness some of its impact for his own use instead of being helplessly under its control all the time. I know you are working on many other stories, but you simply must concentrate on this one! I and many others have been in absolute agony over the fate of Legolas and Gimli in this story, and now you have left us with a very tense situation indeed. One monumental cliffie. He may have eliminated Dashnir, but there is no way the elf can take on the rest of these guys. He was acting it up a bit for full effect in order to draw his foe in, but I have no doubt he truly is close to complete collapse. Even such an elf as Legolas has a breaking point. And I sure don't think Gimli will be charging to the rescue, much as he might wish he could. Please please get the next chapter out as quickly as possible (focusing once again on our two friends in need), and ease our worried minds!

Author's reply

Great googly moogly, she wrote an epistle! Wow. I'm...very amazed. Very taken aback. Huge thanks! Holy cow, look at the size of that thing! When it showed up in my inbox, you turned me into this blubbering mess of shock and swelling ego. Wow. Speechlessness... It's amazing. Right, er, let me see if I can form a coherent response to it! (Speaking of responses, I owe YOU a review, too. I'll work on getting to that!) Okay, first of all, I've never known your Legolas to be a wimp. Overcome and traumatized, sure, but you pull it off believably so that he never becomes a wimp to me. But I do thank you for the compliment. I'm quite fond of my hale elven warrior. I just hope I don't push it too far one of these days. He *does* have limits, which we'll see next chapter. As for his loyalty to Gimli, someone else decided to call it ruthlessly efficient, which I like very much. So I also like your description of "fierce," because I think that's what it is. Legolas becomes so fierce and ruthless that nothing else seems to matter anymore. The don't-speak-about-it-and-it-won't-happen reaction *is* a very human reaction, but a lot of the elves in LotR have it, too. Gildor and his band, for instance, all but refuse to talk about Black Riders or anything else that might be happening in Arda because if they ignore it, it won't affect them. That's part of where I'm drawing Legolas's denial from. The other part is that he's almost out of his mind with fear and exhaustion. He can't handle anything else. The morning's arrow hit Legolas in the back of the shoulder and lodged just behind the scapula, left side. If he reaches back with his right hand, he can touch it. He could probably touch it with his left hand, too, but he's informed me that he'd rather not use that arm right now. That was clearer in one of the earlier drafts, but for some reason, it became muddled in the final. I'll see if I can work with it... Okay, about the tension in the ending... Maybe you can help me with this. I debated about giving too much away because I couldn't decide if I wanted readers to be waiting for the elf to act or worried that the elf couldn't act. I went for the former. In other words, you were supposed to pick up on the acting. (It's amazing how many still didn't.) But I can see your point about building more suspense... I think I like your idea better than what I went with. The fact that Legolas happened to be hit in the exact same place he was hit earlier should rouse suspicions in alert readers, and the rest can pick up on it at the end. Right. I'll mark that down for edits. As for updating this story before anything else...I'm seriously considering it. We ARE getting close to the end, and I did leave you with a rather nasty cliffie. Oooo, no promises but I'l definitely think about it. And you're right. Legolas IS close to collapse. He doesn't have much left. And if it makes you feel any better, the next chapter will have lots of Legolas and Dashnir once again. Everyone else is either traveling, preparing, or planning. We'll get to them eventually.

Frodo3791 · 5 April 2005 · Chapter 38: Dregs

Hey, glad to see you updated. The long waits are always worth it. I have to work on some homework, so I'll keep this short. I enjoyed the chapter as always. Legolas' desperation and tiredness was well written. He keeps pushing himself so much, thinking that he can rely on some of that elven stamina. Doesn't work in the desert... and under these circumstances. I like how you also write from the "bad guys" point of view and give him some decent reasoning behind his thoughts. I love layers in characters, and you definitly got it down with Dashnir. I have one question though. Why did Dashnir say to kill Legolas? Maybe this was addressed in the earlier chapters and I forgot, but I thought that they wanted Legolas alive so that they could hand him over to Umbar. Thanks for keeping this story going and continuing to make it interesting. I love your stuff. I've kind of losing my interest with fanfiction as time goes by, but I always find your stories a pleasure to write. I think you definitly do a good job of keeping the realism and historical factors in this story while staying true to Middle Earth. Great work, as always. -Frodo

Author's reply

Hey there! It's always a pleasure to see what you have to say because you've got such great insights. Such as Legolas. You're absolutely right. That elven stamina is about to give. The Haradrim might be underestimating him, but Legolas is doing a bit of overestimating on his part. He doesn't have much time left. As for why Dashnir didn't kill Legolas, that was something he and Asbad discussed last chapter. They decided that the elf was simply too dangerous to have around, with or without u-glir. Remember that before this all took place, there were other plans underway. When it was discovered that two of those coming to Haradhur would be an elf and a dwarf, the plans changed, and at this point, we're somewhere around Plan C or D. The two kind of meshed. What Asbad wants to do is go back to Plan A as far as the elf is concerned, which meant that Umbar was going to find its own elf. Asbad doesn't trust his men around Legolas for extended periods of time anymore, and rightly so (as Dashnir just discovered). Gimli, on the other hand, is not viewed as a substantial threat because of his injury, so they feel that they can take him alive. Which might prove harder than it sounds, but that's for a later chapter.

Elenora · 5 April 2005 · Chapter 38: Dregs

Absolutely excellent chapter!! I've been waiting on pins and needles for an update concerning Legolas and Gimli, so this was definitely much appreciated. I have thoroughly enjoyed this story all along, and I have found it intriguing what you are doing with Legolas - the whole "u-glir" (sp???) thing - and then when he used the sea longing to affect an escape from the enemy camp - left me nearly shivering with the thought of it! And now, using the same sea longing to distract and mesmerize Dashnir...well, that was really a brilliant idea, and one I've not run across in any other fan fiction. It is a very compelling and intriguing idea. I also loved that little bit where Legolas lets out a "keening cry" that not only frightens the men, but disturbs the horses, too. These subtle "differences" that you incorporate into Legolas's character are wonderful at continuing to remind us that while Legolas was one of the Nine, friend and "brother" to Aragorn and Gimli, and very often in the company of men, he is not a man, but something a bit more....complex, and mysterious at times, as well. With his close friendships with Aragorn and Gimli, one can lose Legolas's "elven-ness" too easily as he interacts with these mortals. Such little touches as what you are having him do with his sea longing, and the looks he bestows on his enemies that have them seeing strange and disturbing things in his eyes, remind us all that yes, Legolas often seems so very human, but he is not. I await with eager anticipation the next chapter to this riveting story! Thanks for not giving up on it! Elenora voxstellarum9@aol.com

Author's reply

I love to write Legolas and I love to write from his POV, but he scares me for the simple reason that he is NOT a man. He's an elf. And as an elf, he's different. As a result, it makes me very happy to hear you note the differences. I don't know if they always come across, but I've tried to keep Legolas somewhat separated from Aragorn, Eomer, and Gimli. And I'm glad you're liking the many uses of sea-longing. It's not canon, but by the same token, I don't think it's that far removed from canon, either. Tolkien has described Legolas's people as being very powerful in song and that it's part of how they defend themselves. So I didn't think it was too far removed to employ it as a weapon, especially when you have a power as dangerous as the sea-longing to unleash. For what it's worth, that's my reasoning, anyway. Glad you're enjoying it! I'm having fun.

Anonymous · 5 April 2005 · Chapter 38: Dregs

Excellent chapter, but if you don't mind me sayng so, it's about time! It's been a while since you last updated and I've been dying to see how this goes. Don't get me wrong, I know it's hard work to write stories like this, and life getsin the way, but update sooner, I can't wait for the next chapter, And please understand, I'm not critizizing you, I just really hate waiting for a good fic to be updated! I wish you speedy writing, and the best of luck!

Author's reply

No, criticism accepted and deserved. I don't update often enough. I wish I could do something about that, but in all honesty, there's not much I can do. It's hard for me to scale down the number of fics I work on because then I burn out on them, and real life likes to get in the way, too. But I'll do my best to update faster in the future. Promise!

Eruvyweth · 5 April 2005 · Chapter 38: Dregs

OHHHHHHHHHHH, YOU UPDATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU A THOUSAND TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wonderful chapter! Every word of yours I read makes me more your adoring fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Author's reply

You're very very welcome, and thank YOU! Sorry to make you wait so long, though! But I'm glad you liked the chapter.

Elemmíre · 5 April 2005 · Chapter 38: Dregs

Oooh, very nice. Yay Legolas! :), Elemmíre

Author's reply

*waves flag and adds to cheering section*

Eliza61 · 5 April 2005 · Chapter 38: Dregs

Great chapter, great story. I like your character development for your original characters. Your villians are excellent. I knew my boy leggy would pull through. Gorgeous & devious, gotta love that elf

Author's reply

I'm so glad you like the OCs. I'm always nervous about them myself, especially when they're playing such prominent roles, so it thrills me to no end when people say they enjoy them. Thank you so much! As for your boy leggy, he still has some work to do, but I'm optimistic about his chances. In the long run. ;)

Lindelea · 5 April 2005 · Chapter 38: Dregs

Whew! I'm not sure I breathed at all during the reading. And yet, even as my heart is in my throat, a note of levity springs from the page: Sitting back, Legolas made use of a rather inventive Rohirric curse and mulled over his decision to leave. Masterfully done, as always!

Author's reply

I get edgy if there isn't at least a bit of humor mixed in somewhere, even if it's just a quirk in the narrative. And I'm very grateful that you appreciated it. It makes it feel less superflous to me. Many thanks!

French Pony · 5 April 2005 · Chapter 38: Dregs

For someone dangling at the frayed end of his rope, Legolas is doing a fantastic job here. When it's all over, he ought to be rewarded with a nice soft bed in a sunny room with enough food and company and entertainment that he does not have to leave for at least a full month. I'm glad that he seems to have found a way to inflict some of his sea-longing on the Haradrim. He's spent so much of the story being psychically abused by them that it seems only fair that he should get some of his own back. On the other hand, it does speak of an Elf in dire distress, that he should resort to something like that. Even Haradrim ought to know better than to get close to a wounded Elf before it's completely incapacitated. Don't they know that wounded animals strike out all the more viciously because they have less to lose? Dashnir has paid for his stupidity, but Legolas will probably wind up with even more problems. After all, despite his taking out of Dashnir, there's only one of him and still a whole bunch of Haradrim who watched what he did to Dashnir. And they'll no doubt be mad. . .

Author's reply

Well, Legolas is going to get some serious sleep in the near future. So much so that he probably wouldn't notice food, company, and entertainment, but I'll be sure to pass your suggestion along. Legolas would probably appreciate the thought. :) As for winding up with more problems, you're right in many ways. But your analogy about wounded animals holds, and I'd like to add that this particular wounded animal is cornered, so he's even more dangerous. But then again, the Haradrim are definitely upset...

fadagaski · 5 April 2005 · Chapter 38: Dregs

Brilliant! My God, Legolas is absolutely the coolest thing EVER in this story. :D The whole first part made me exhausted just reading it - the poor elf is just absolutely shattered, and its very well conveyed. The end half was just ... wow. You make the reader absolutely CERTAIN that Dashnir is going to give Legolas a one way ticket to Mandos' Halls, and then the elf spins it all on its head. Very Aragorish, and just oh-so-cool. A chapter worthy of the wait. And I haven't forgotten about the other chapters. :P

Author's reply

I'm so relieved to hear you say all that! I'm quite nervous about this chapter, actually, because I'm trying to keep things largely in the open while still adding tension. For example, we all know that Legolas already has a shoulder wound, so it's a reasonable assumption that he's faking a second wound (which Dashnir doesn't know). What I tried to do (especially with the first half) is establish the fact that our elf is not in perfect working condition, which hopefully feeds into second half doubts about whether or not he'll be able to pull anything off. Anyway, I'm so gald you thought the first half was exhausting. As for the second, many thanks for the compliments! I still wonder if I've made it too rough, but I'm definitely glad you liked it!

fadagaski · 31 March 2005 · Chapter 9: First Blood

This chapter is even better than the last one! The tension is mounting between Eomer and Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas are off doing their own thing (because they are COMPLETELY removed from Mannish politics), the gauntlet has been thrown (so to speak) between Gondor and Khurintu. It's all so dramatic! Whee!

Author's reply

This was the chapter where I could let things ignite between Eomer and Aragorn. Not too much at first, but I had great fun turning those two characters against each other. And it's such a natural thing to do, too, which made it all the more fun because I could keep people in the dark longer. I think two people decided that something odd was happening, but by and large, the reason behind the rift stayed a secret. That's not something I've been able to do on such a large scale either before or since, so it makes me happy. Whee indeed!

fadagaski · 31 March 2005 · Chapter 8: The Shadows Lengthen

See! I promised I'd be here and I am. :P I really like this chapter, because (with the benefit of hindsight) it hints at sooo much detail. The smoke coming from the East, the sudden flaring of tempers around Legolas, Mohart's warning - it all clicks together, but only with the knowledge of future events. Whee! Okay, so apparently I need to warm up for longer reviews. Deal with it. :P

Author's reply

I was rather absurdly pleased with this chapter, actually. Chapter 9 moreso, but this was a fun chapter, too, because I got to play with tempers. I tried to make the evolution of anger feel very natural, but upon rereads, it's fairly obvious where things start to go downhill. As for longer reviews, the fact that you're reviewing at all is plenty for me! :)

fadagaski · 24 March 2005 · Chapter 7: Attacked at Dawn

When I read this for the first time, I wasn't all that familiar with The Silmarillion (still am not, but at least know more about Numenor), so it was a huge shock when you divulged the Secret of the Hawk. Of course, now I find the little details exceedingly cool (still having no idea if they're lifted from Silm. or if you made them up). Also loving Gimli's 'diplomacy' in this chapter. He's such a little warlord, bless him. A complete contrast to Legolas' forced detachment from the battle, which further emphasises just how different they are. I like how you add little things like that in, expanding their characters in relation to each other so that they compliment one another nicely. As for the attack - as ever, it rocks. You write battles in a clear, logical way, but somehow I still get the sense of confusion that suffuses any fight. And it's very cool how the different characters still carry on talking to each other while taking out all their foes. Just another day at the office, and all that. Okay, that's it for today. Am very tired. 7 down, 30 to go. Couldn't have made it a SHORT story, could you. No. :P

Author's reply

Concerning the hawk and related Silmarillion things, I made them up. The details seemed appropriate to me, though, especially since the Black Numenoreans were so very intent on going against Gondor after the fall of Numenor. And Gondor's symbol was the White Tree. But none of it could be considered canon. I'm very glad you liked the attack in the desert. There was a lot of talking going on (perhaps too much) but I hoped it felt somewhat chaotic and rushed. But these are experienced warriors who are used to conversing during battles, especially since some of them fought in small groups that would need massive coordination against larger forces. So they were probably used to talking. Anyway, thank you VERY much for all the reviews you've done so far. It means quite a lot to me, and I'm very fortunate that there are people out there like you!

fadagaski · 24 March 2005 · Chapter 6: Into the Desert

I remember liking this chapter when I first read it, because it is truly the beginning of a new realm. Yes, Aragorn was on about water in the last chapter, but here we enter into Harad and suddenly, as the descriptions change, so does the readers expectation. We learn more about the tribes and their hierarchy, about Dashnir and Khurintu, and about the desert itself - am particularly struck by Legolas' thoughts regarding the entire lack of life. It's such a weird thing to think, I being Rohirrim (of course!), but to an elf, it makes sense. Heaven help us, there's elf in you too! :P Dashnir's thoughts on Legolas and Gimli's friendship were awesome, specifically the rather dry sentence about their dealings with each other. Made me laugh. I understand that it has a lot to do with plot, but I find it odd that Aragorn is being so evasive and retiscient about his suspicions around his closest confidants. Of course, if he DID spill every last thought of his, there would be no drama and suspence, but still. It sits strangely with me on a third reading.

Author's reply

Part of what I really enjoy about this story is the chance to explore a land that's basically been taken to extremes. I've had fun playing with concepts of desert travel, so it thrills me to no end that you've enjoyed that, too. It makes me feel a bit less guilty about indulging my passions for desert lands. The evasive and retiscient Aragorn is operating on a few different principles. First of all, he really doesn't know anything yet. He has vague suspicions, but nothing that anyone can act on or do anything about, so he's reluctant to share. Secondly, he's switched into almost a need-to-know mode, and at this point (especially since nothing hostile has happened) no one really needs to know. They just need to be on their guard. Third, he's running into the same problems Imrahil faced earlier: he just doesn't know how to put his suspicions into words. There's no way to voice them, so he's going to let the situation develop in order to put names to things he's feeling. But still, I do see your point, and Aragorn is being fairly evasive.

fadagaski · 24 March 2005 · Chapter 5: The Eve of the Shadow

Hoom hoom! Yes, well ... Apparently, Legolas is an excellent character to open with, though lord knows why. The description of the sea from his perspective was breath-taking, and it was made all the more poignant because of his shortened temper; who would've thought Legolas could snap at King Elessar? As ever, Gimli played an excellent subrole in this section, emphasising just how much of Legolas is being lost and what a tenacious but still uncertain hold he has on life in Middle-Earth. Again, you did the Gondor/Rohan comparison! The Rohirrim are so fatalistic. *loffs them* It's interesting that Aragorn should be undecided whether he follows the fatalistic or opportunistic life philosophy, but then he has an equal grasp on both, I think. Also, his section where he reflects on his friendship with Legolas and Gimli was very reassuring to the reader, but with hindsight I can see that his need for the two of them to be close for the long journey is OMG FORESHADOWING. Legolas' perception of Dashnir ... *shudder* They're all so very close to the truth, yet all blinded to it. Heehee.

Author's reply

The Gondor/Rohan comparison is something I kicked around for a while, and I'm glad you like it. I figured that since Gondor defied Mordor for a long time and essentially made their own luck, they would probably take a very dim view of fate. Denethor gave in to fatalism in the end, and it drove him mad. The rest of Gondor couldn't afford to do that. The Rohirrim, though, as a wandering people were very dependent upon fortune and fate, so they were more likely to trust it. At least, that's what I think. And yes, our heroes like to skirt the truth and then back away. Very frustrating at times, actually. In fact, that was one of my favorite things to do. I like seeing just how close we could get to the truth without actually finding it.

fadagaski · 24 March 2005 · Chapter 3: Misgivings and Perceptions

Damnit! There I was, so eager to read it all, that I missed out a chapter. *headdesk* Typical. Now can barely remember what happened, because omg short term memory loss. Oh yes. Legolas. *sob* You write his affliction so well, moreso because it is seen primarily through the eyes of Gimli. I like how it is Eomer, though, who gives Legolas a task to do; it could be unwitting, or it could speak of personal experience at needing to distract oneself from inner pain. Of course, how could I not love Gimli's rather dwarvish method of distracting Legolas through the morning? Where words fail, then obviously a direct assault is the next logical step. ^_^ Besides, you're so very good at battle scenes, and having one thrown unexpectedly into the mix spices up the beginning of the story. Pity the poor guard, though. As for Imrahil, I like his uncertainty, and the vague foreshadowing (such a cool word) about what will happen later (particularly to Legolas). And again, Aragorn is entirely in command of all that are with him; I never noticed it the first time, but with hindsight, it is blindingly obvious that Eomer is rather like a puppy in training, following loyally at his master's heels. And though Aragorn gives him opportunities to make his own decisions, he himself expedcts - subconsciously, mostly - for Eomer to agree.

Author's reply

Eomer is very much out of his league here, and at first, he's content to let Aragorn handle things. Aragorn knows a bit about what is happening, and that's good enough for Eomer. But after a while, when Eomer feels he knows more of what to expect, he begins striking out on his own. At least, that's the way things were supposed to work. I'm very glad you like the sea-longing. I was working blind here because I didn't have a very clear picture of what it was I was portraying. I thought I knew, but having read other interpretations since then, I've done quite a bit of refining on this concept. Still, I'm glad to know that the original still meshes with what happens later on. And yes, I pity the guard, too. ;)

fadagaski · 24 March 2005 · Chapter 4: First Impressions

Legolas and Gimli's bit at the beginning is just so ... awesome. It stands out so well, yet fits in with the flow of the narrative, even though it is at odds with such as Dashnir's part. Bizarre, but cool. And, of course, we all love Legolas and Gimli. The one thing I like about this story is - well, apart from the coolness that is Aragorn - the comparisons between Gondor and Rohan, and the Gondorians and Rohirrim. Soldiers from Minas Tirith are grave and well-ordered, like little tiny ants in a huge nest, whereas the Rohirrim are tamed but still prone to a little wildness, like a herd of horses. You're the only author I've read who's ever written that. I also love the little extra details you put in here and there; in this chapter, that was the bit about the non-Citadel at Dol Amroth. It's just an odd bit of trivia that you've concocted, but it adds so much depth to the whole story, even though it doesn't have anything to do with the plot itself. Dashnir's observations are an excellent way of looking at familiar characters in a completely objective light (well, sort of). Almost like reading LOTR for the first time again, in that unique, very detached style that Tolkien writes in. Of course, Dashnir isn't quite so detached, because he obviously has a role to play and motives that colour his reactions slightly, but still. And can I just say that I think Imrahil is brilliantly represented in this story. He hardly appears in the books, and isn't found too often in fanfic not specifically written about him, yet you've managed to develop his character without being obvious. Kudos to you.

Author's reply

Actually, the "odd bit of trivia" regarding Dol Amroth is something I was hoping would tie in with the story's sequel, but after some revising of the sequel's outline, I'm not sure it will fit in anymore. But I suppose it can remain a strange detail thrown in. Sounds fine to me. ;) Dashnir's observations about the fearsome foursome were something I've wanted to write for a long time, but I tend to have difficulties introducing completely new characters and then looking back at the older, more familiar characters. Dashnir gave me a chance to play outsider, so I was very happy. As for Imrahil, Gondor, and Rohan, MANY thanks on the very kind words. Sometimes I feel like I've gone too far with Imrahil, but as enigmatic as he was in RotK, I feel like it's something that could be supported. That and his sister seems strangely elven. At least, what little information we have of her just sounds as though it could be speaking of someone who had very close ties to the Eldar.

fadagaski · 24 March 2005 · Chapter 2: Near to the Sea

Such a huge contrast to Ch1, so it is. The introduction of the sea-longing allows a sharp contrast between the banter of before and the true meaning of Gimli and Legolas' friendship. I think Eomer, being the representation of the average reader in this story, allows us to understand something of what Legolas is feeling, or the reasons why, at least. The simple dialogue exchange at the bottom is, while a teensy bit cliche, still a very good way of introducing proper dramatic irony, rather than foreshadowing, into the story. It is quite amusing how Aragorn is such a leader of men, that he automatically looks to govern the Rohirrim. He doesn't do it out of spite, but just because he is a generous and powerful leader. Hehe.

Author's reply

Yet another chapter slated for revamping. Yes, the opening dialogue is cliche, and that's part of what I'd like to change about this chapter. That and the chapter itself doesn't really seem to accomplish anything aside from setting up the sea-longing. Which gets explored later, but...well, at this point it's not obvious as to WHY we're exploring the sea-longing. It just feels like filler, and that should be altered. Ah well. At least we got some Aragorn characterization in.

fadagaski · 24 March 2005 · Chapter 1: The Invitation

Whee! I'm here a day early, but oh well. I love how this chapter opens so innocently, with only the merest hint at foreshadowing during the meeting. Legolas and Gimli steal the whole scene with their banter, and it truly sets the story up high enough for the LONG disastrous fall, before they all find themselves (presumably, as you haven't got there yet) back to normal. I've noticed that Eomer is very much a subject King to Aragorn in this, which is great, because OMG FORESHADOWING. Yay! Ch2 awaits.

Author's reply

All hail the reviewer! This is one of the chapters I have scheduled for heavy renovation, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Someday. Maybe. But the relationship between Aragorn and Eomer was something that I wanted to develop very quickly, because it was going to be one of the clues that all was not quite right later on. And hopefully it was going to be something that evolved into something else by the end of the story. Which we haven't reached yet, but I think I'm on track for it.

Catoblepas · 14 November 2004 · Chapter 37: From the Ashes

Oh, NO...Not again. Too many cliffhangers! You're going to drive me insane (if I wasn't already)...I can't believe how many original characters you've created, all complete with completely different personalities and backgrounds and treachery (oh my!)! Don't we all just love some nice, soul-fulfilling treachery. Well, here I go again, begging you on bended knee for an update on another story for which I shall never fathom to express my sincerest gratitude for, only to read that and again beg you with my deepest wishes to update again, and so on and so forth.... Ah, the vicious cycle of read and review. I'm afraid I'll never escape it...and nor shall you! ...That was definitely not supposed to rhyme. Curses! Update, or I shall force upon you more terrible poetry! ...Pretty please?

Author's reply

Ah, treachery. I like it. It makes writing this interesting, anyway. Sorry about the insanity, but I'm already insane so I figure I should have company. ;) Seriously, though, I didn't think this particular chapter had much of a cliff hanger. So hopefully you're just enjoying the view instead of holding on for dear life. I'll try to get to work on updates. Hold off that poetry! ;)

Eruvyweth · 25 October 2004 · Chapter 37: From the Ashes

Augh, WONDERFUL! I found you at henneth-annun.net and devoured all of your stories, and then stumbled across you here and discovered that there were EXTRAS (!!!) that hadn't been on the other site! Your writing is amazing! I suppose all that I can say right now in this sort of happily stunned mood is that you have done with Legolas and Gimli what no one else has or could in the world of fanfiction. Long have I wandered the world of LotR fanfiction, seeking the kind of uncheesy-yet-extremely-emotional drama between friends that is so rare and so delicious, and I have found it here in this story! My congratulations. Eruvyweth God-follower most humbly awards you the Eruvyweth God-follower Most Humble Award for Fanfiction, and cordially invites you to visit her website at www.freewebs.com/pawns. ~egf

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Actually, all the extras are also at Henneth-Annun, but you need to be a member to get in to see them. This site doesn't work that way, so you can see them all. Anyway, thank you SO much for your compliments. They really mean a lot to me and I'm somewhat taken aback that you've actually read all of this VERY LONG fic. That's more of a compliment than anything I can think of, so thank you! Also, many thanks for your words on Legolas and Gimli. They're my favorite characters (obviously) and sometimes I wonder if I like them too much and start weaving too many non-canon elements into their friendship. So I'm glad you liked it. Thank you again! I will visit your website in a bit

grumpy · 22 October 2004 · Chapter 37: From the Ashes

great chagter, I am finally getting the hang of it, love your stories, this one I started in the middle, I shall have to go back to the bigginning and read the first part. anyways great plan that Aragorn came up with, or something resembling a plan. looking forward to more

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You started in the middle? Huh. That's interesting. When I come across a long fic that I'm not certain about reading, I tend to go through the first few chaptesr and then the last few, completely skipping the middle. That's interesting that you would choose to start in the middle. Well, I hope you enjoy the beginning. I was still figuring out LotR canon when I wrote the first five chapters, so here's hoping you can muddle through!

Nightwing · 16 October 2004 · Chapter 37: From the Ashes

Points for me, too! Your chapter title is from the words that Bilbo yelled at Boromir during the Council in defense of Aragorn. Well, you've done it to me. I sat down this morning with several blank papers, and I made charts. And maps. And lists. All to keep straight with what is going on with this story. First time I've ever had to do that! I picture you (dark hair for some reason) writing in whatever room in your house you use for the purpose, hunched over a paper-strewn desk, and all around you are charts and maps and lists. Including a huge thing hung on the wall that you occasionally peer up at with a squint to make sure you are still on track and keeping everyone on the right path. Complicated stuff, this. The plan sounds like good fun. Risky, yep, but will make for very exciting reading. Things will probably not go entirely well, but our friends have to triumph in the end, yes? Go, Aragorn! He's well written, BTW. I like his growing inscrutibility, even if it is frustrating the hell out of the young King of Rohan right now. I like your Eomer. The description of him being most comfortable as either a true friend or a true enemy, uncomfortable with the grey areas is spot on. The culture of Rohan is so very different than that of Harad, or even Gondor. Eomer is young and fiery but not stupid, and he will come away from this journey to the desert having learned much about new ways of communicating, persuasion and diplomacy. He will be able to put all his new knowledge to good use in future for the benefit of his people. He is growing and maturing here, which even a king needs to do. As for the inseperable pair of elf and dwarf, I fear they must separate. Legolas has got things to do, and Gimli cannot accompany him yet. He is too ill. It will be dangerous, as their former captors will be trying to get hold of them again. Hopefully they will not come upon the dwarf alone and unable to fight. But I see the possibility that our good dwarf may follow Legolas later, when he feels better, and I have no doubt that he will find the opportune moment to do some axe swinging before the story is over. As for me, a review would be wonderful, but no pressure. You did indicate that you are still reading TSAW, and that delighted me enough to keep me buoyed for weeks on end. I have a great deal of respect for your talent, and am so pleased that you find my own small offering worthy of your consideration. Nightwing

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*blinks* You did WHAT?! Oh, Nightwing, that's not necessary! Gyah, what a guilt complex you've just given me! Charts and maps and lists? If you really wanted or needed them, I could have put them together for you. Oh dear. I don't think I intended for the story to be that involving, either. My supreme apologies! Actually, that picture in your mind (complete with dark hair) isn't that far from the truth, though the scattered desk is actually several scattered, hectic, and huge .doc files on my computer. Glad you like Aragorn and Eomer! I'm taking some risks with their characterization and I've paid for it a couple times before, but I really am trying to incorporate the idea of growth and learning into all this, especially on Eomer's part. As for Legolas and Gimli, you're absolutely right about the fact that Legolas is going to have to go it alone for a bit. But the part about Gimli and his axe...well, the axe is back in Haradhur, and I will say that neither Legolas nor Gimli is going to make it back to the city without some help. And I'll get you your review of TWAW by tomorrow morning, I promise!!! If I don't, you have my permission to torment me for the rest of my life. I keep meanign to do it and then something always comes up. But I'm going to do it tonight! I promise! It's too good to let pass unpraised.

legolasgreenleafgilestel (on ff.net) · 15 October 2004 · Chapter 37: From the Ashes

from the ashes a fire shall be woken a light from the shadows shall spring renewed shall be blade that was broken the crownless again shall be king Sorry, slightly carried away, i know that poem off by heart. Yay, an update! Its good, havent read it all yet as i have limited internet time but i've sent it to my dad to print off, and then i will read it properly, what i read was very good though, update again soon, pwetty pwetty please (puppy dog eyes)

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Hey there! I was surprised to find you over here at SoA instead of ff.net. Greetings and welcome! Glad you liked what you did manage to read. I realize these chapters are a bit long, especially for people with limited Internet time, but I honestly don't know how to make them any shorter. Sorry! And I'll get on that update for you. ;)

Lera · 13 October 2004 · Chapter 37: From the Ashes

*huge drawn out sigh* I meant "from the ashes a fire shall be woken." I really should know. I memorized that poem for liturature.

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**grins** As a former college student with a very busy life, I completely forgive you. ;) Reminds me of a few incoherent reviews I gave out once. I think it's the light from the shadows that starts springing. Either way, there is indeed a spring in there somewhere, so you were at least in the right area. Props for that! When I created the shadow, my idea for it was that nothing anyone did beneath it was *completely* out of character. There were seeds for everything, such as Eomer's desires for Rohan to be recognizeds as a powerful nation alongside Gondor, or Aragorn's reliance on his foresight and his hesitation in taking action when that foresight fails him. I can point you to places in the books that support these characterizations. Take it for what you will, though. But for the record, that was my intention. Still, it was a relief for me as well when I finally got Aragorn to throw the last of it away. He's a difficult character to rein in. Thanks so much for your review and good luck in college!