Had to giggle about the image of Thranduil and Galadriel forgetting their aversions against each other to see Legolas finally and happily married. It is nice to know there are so many powerful elves in league to help them and that Celebrían and Galadriel obviously acted in stead of Laerwen. Oh, and of course it was funny to learn about the wedding of Celeborn and Galadriel *grin*
And I loved the way the twins took their friend away to distract him from all his worries there would be something interfering in the last minute.
‘Two ages have passed – and more – yet those of the Blessed Realm have much to learn before they can accept the return of Fëanor’s sons.’ That is only too true, you know. It seems the elves of the Blessed Realm are quite slow to learn and forgive and to accept they have to change and can't dwell in the past forever. Sometimes I wonder if they will *ever* reach this point.
The meeting with Aule was fascinating. His gift for Elerrina I found touching, no matter what her father thought. And I had to laugh at Taryatur's horror about the idea of a Valar at the wedding of his daughter. He's truly not overly fond of any attention for her, particularly it is somehow connected to something or someone from Arda.
The scene with Legolas and Elerrina in the woods was a wonderful end for the story. I enjoyed it so much and am sad to see it completed, but I look forward to the next.
Author's reply
Thranduil and Galadriel niggle each other - I suspect that Thranduil admired his older cousin as an elfling and wasn't too keen on this elleth who always seemed to be in the way. But Galadriel is fond enough of Legolas to ignore it all here - and anyway, weddings are (mainly) female business! Thranduil copes much better with Celebrian, I think - despite her mother - as she's a) Celeborn's daughter and b) more feminine - keeping to a more female role than Galadriel. (Galadriel would never have married informally in the BR - she would have had the whole works. But without her parent and with three of her brothers dead - and with the endless inter-kindred suspicions, I reckon that, in the end, she would have defied them all to bond with Celeborn.
The twins took him on the equivalent of a stag weekend. Except they didn't return with a stag!
The elves of the BR have long memories - and they live in a place where change is very slow. That applies to forgiveness, too. Feanor did not return while Arda endured - but to keep all his sons from being rehoused seems excessive. They were not all equally bad or equally responsible and, short of them all deciding to stand by their father and refusing forgiveness, surely some of them were able to find redemption. But I don't think it would be soon. The elves of the BR do need to grow and mature a bit, I think.
Aule needed to appear to round the earlier meeting with Yavanna - but I really understood what Taryatur felt about too much favour. It's rarely good to attract too much attention from the Powers. And it would be like having the Queen coming to tea - or the Pope offering to do your wedding. A bit too much.
The glade took the story right back to the beginning - with a chaffinch singing. Only this time Legolas is not alone and is looking forward rather than back.
Thank you for reading - I'm glad you enjoyed it. More soon!
Armariel
· 15 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
Ohhhhhh what a RELIEF and a breakthrough this chappie is! Whew, is that Taryatur (sp?) a stubborn one or what! Even so I fully expected him to be on his knees before Leggy after he rescued the baby....and then he actually says he's "unworthy"??????? Eek!!! What's a poor Elf gotta do? Well, at last they are engaged...yesssss!!!!
Gotta say I just love your characterizations...not many authors can make Elves come to life so vividly. At least, not that I've seen. Maybe I ought to give more of them a try. Well done!
Now to the next part........
~~~{~@
Author's reply
In a way - although he would never have wanted anything bad to happen to Surion - this is almost a relief to Taryatur. It breaks through the impasse. It must have become obvious to him that he would have to give way, but he's still sure he's right and the more everyone else is pushing at him, the more obstinate he becomes. It's why Linevende hasn't put her foot down, really. She knows how badly it would hurt him - and it hadn't quite got to the point where she had to insist for Elerrina's sake.
Thank you! I'm flattered. There's so much good stuff to read out there that I'm just blushing at the compliment.
thechevin
· 15 July 2006
· Chapter 12: Resolution
I am so sorry to see this story come to an end I have enjoyed the whole thing so much and I feel there is so much more to be explored, I do hope we get to see and hear more of this dance not only Legolas and Elerrina, but Thranduil and Galadriel, with Celeborn stirring the pot for both of them. Celebrian and Linevendë doing their best to set politics aside and Taryatur of course who seems determined to make this the wedding of the age.
I look forward to hearing more about the wedding itself perhaps from someone elses POV, Thranduil being a favourite.
He is going to find this change in his relationship with his son very hard, and will need the support of his cousin
The ending was so sweet and lovely
I just wish it hadn't had to end at all, but will be looking out for more of these lovely glimpses into life amongst the elves very soon
thank you for sharing this world with others
Author's reply
There tends to be a time - around three-quarters of the way through - when I wonder if I'm actually going to be able to wind a story up ... but then I get to the end and I hate it! I really don't want to say goodbye to the characters. But you're right - there is always more to be explored. Some of it might make longer stories and there are some definite one chapter fictions there. I feel for Taryatur, really. He's going to feel the separation - probably more than Thranduil will. And it's typical that he would want to ensure that Elerrina's wedding was the best he could make it.
I'm sure there will be more soon - Legolas and Elerrina might want a bit of time to enjoy their honeymoon, but I'm sure the others are wanting to tell a story or two.
Thank you for reading. I'm glad you enjoy reading what happens among this group of elves, because I certainly enjoy writing it!
Jay of Lasgalen
· 14 July 2006
· Chapter 12: Resolution
I'm glad to see the culmination of Legolas and Elerrina's long courtship and betrothal. They deserve their happiness at last! Their awe and wonder at the changes between them was lovely.
I think your final point about changing relationships and the different stages of elven life are very true. Legolas - besotted with Elerrina - will not notice the lessening of his bond with Thranduil, but his father will. You made a similar point in Reflections when Elrohir mourned the loss of his twin, after Elladan (the first of the three) married Miriwen.
I'm sorry to see the end of this, but I hope you have more stories planned. Please??
Jay
Author's reply
There will be more stories. It's an addiction - I can't stop. I don't really have anything longer in mind at the moment, though, but I'm sure I won't be able to bear the gap for long.
Yes, Elrohir felt the change in their bond very strongly when Elladan married. Elrond, though, would have had far less problem with it than he did with Arwen. This division was not absolute - his son would still be there and remain there - but, more importantly, he had Celebrian beside him and sharing the experience. Thranduil is alone at the moment. But L&E will be living with him - and Thranduil will enjoy having a daughter in his house. Elerrina likes him, too. He accepted her so openly and with no reluctance at all - that is bound to have affected her feelings towards him - and he has no need to be anything but loving towards her. It's an outwardly very uncomplicated relationship that will be good for both of them.
Poor L&E ended up with a terribly long courtship. I think they did spend at least a century denying to themselves that it was a courtship at all, and then another century of suspicious rapprochement before they acknowledged there was more to it than just friendship - but even so, it's been a long haul. And Taryatur's disapproval made it very hard on Elerrina. But finding themselves together in the woods on the first day of their lives together has put all that out of their minds now - they are outside the everyday world for a while until their emotions begin to settle down a little.
I'm sorry to finish this - but L&E had waited long enough! Thank you, Jay. I'm glad you enjoyed it. More will be along soon.
JRJ
· 14 July 2006
· Chapter 12: Resolution
What a lovely ending to a lovely story. The reference back to the chaffinch when they first met was an especially elegant literary touch.
Author's reply
It's the same glade!! Not, I'm afraid the same chaffinch. I'm fairly sure chaffinches didn't share immortality, not even in the Undying Lands. Legolas has completed a circle and come back to the same place - but now he is not alone and despairing. It took a while, but he is now able to move forward properly, embracing the possibilities of the Blessed Realm.
Thank you.
Fire
· 14 July 2006
· Chapter 12: Resolution
Now this is a nice ending to a nice piece of your complete writings about the elves.
Celebrian shows a great insite in the ways to go into the future and I think she's quite right.
Author's reply
Celebrian is wise. She is happy, most of the time, to seem light-hearted and mischievous and leave the more serious stuff to her mother, but she has a deep understanding of loss and duty and forgiveness. And a faith in the improvement of elves and a future when all will be reunited.
Thank you. I'm glad you liked this ending - and I'm fairly sure it will soon lead into another tale.
Lianna
· 14 July 2006
· Chapter 12: Resolution
Someday, I will try to say something suitably coherent and complimentary about all this.
But for now, all I can say is ... Legolas and Elerrina ... together in all possible ways ... in the woods ... naked ... finally! Thank you.
Author's reply
I think, if they look round, they might find robes. Or sheets or something. Just so they don't get caught in the raw. But what could be more natural than a Wood elf and his bride strengthening their newly formed bond in the woods in the golden light of dawn? It's a beautiful picture - and thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Gwynhyffar
· 14 July 2006
· Chapter 12: Resolution
I can't tell you how happy I was to see this! For some reason my notification didn't work and I just happened to stumble on this update.
Anyway - I was SO happy to see Legolas and Elerrina finally married, and I could totally picture them laying in the forest completely lost in each other. That scene was very touching... literally, in fact. :D
Celeborn is great. I really like how you portray him. He just doesn't give a rat's patootie what anyone else thinks, he and Galadriel make their own life and everyone else can think what they want!
I found myself feeling bad for Thranduil, of course. He's going to be lonely now. :(
Author's reply
The explosion of feeling and sensation after bonding must be quite mind-blowing! L&E aren't quite sure how they ended up in the forest, but it is a very suitable place for them to wake up on their first day as ... elf and wife.
Celeborn is strong, strong, strong. Far too strong to give a monkey's what other people think about him - and strong enough to shrug off the general theory that he's Galadriel's pussycat. Those who know them know different - and that's enough for him.
Thranduil will be lonely - emotionally bereft - for a while, but he will have Legolas and Elerrina living with him and I think he will rapidly learn to enjoy having a daughter. And let her appear to manage him. And then it's not that many years - certainly far fewer than have passed during Legolas's courtship - before his Lady and he are reunited.
I'm glad you were happy to find it - although I was quite sorry for this to come to an end. Now I shall have to ponder other ideas and look for a new story to write.
French Pony
· 14 July 2006
· Chapter 12: Resolution
What a nice ending to a delightful comedy of manners! You had some beautiful sparkly moments for most of the cast here. I especially liked Celeborn and Galadriel -- they have a marvelously dry sense of humor about life, with the practiced ease that only being married since the dawn of time can bring. Taryatur's dismay at the prospect of having Aulë and Yavanna at the wedding was also great to see. The poor guy. Events just come crashing down on his head, and he can do absolutely bupkis to stop them. And I love love love that someone finally thinks to call them "Nerdanel's sons."
So everyone is happily married off at last, presumably with only a few bumps and bruises, thanks to the efforts of the ladies. All that's left is for Thranduil's Queen to turn up, which she will do in her own time. Because, if there's one thing we've learned from this story, it's that women will do what they want.
Author's reply
It's being Nerdanel's sons that interests me about those seven! And, although I suppose I can see why they followed their father, what this says about elven society and their relationship with their mother and her family. And how their decision impacted on the family they left behind.
Having Aule and Yavanna at the wedding - it's one of those moments like having the Queen or Brangelina turn up. Part of Taryatur possibly thinks, 'top that', as he looks down his nose as various Noldor courtiers - while a far bigger part screams 'no!!' While a little worm deep in his brain thinks of the fate of others who have proved themselves of greater than average interest to the Valar.
Celeborn and Galadriel are great - they manage each other superbly. Everyone else is easy meat to them ... although Thranduil puts up a sustained resistance. And it won't be long before he is reunited with his Lady. But it wouldn't be in either of them to be strictly conventional about it.
Most cast members who were more than names appeared or were mentioned, I think - except Espalas. He is just too strong a character not to try to take over. And women will do what they want... I just like a female perspective, I think. All those wives and mothers and sisters and daughters who barely get a mention. I like to think of them quietly managing the whole shebang ... while letting the menfolk think they're in charge.
daw the minstrel
· 14 July 2006
· Chapter 12: Resolution
I'm so happy for these two. They've certainly waited long enough. And the forest seems to me to be the right place for them.
The little scene with Surion was nice too. He was just playing, concentrating on the ball, while the men talked about how much they treasured him and what Legolas had done. Then, when he's tired, he just flings himself against his father.
And of course, that other father, Thranduil, is about to feel some changes too. An imprompu bonding in the woods seems to me to be right for Celeborn and Galadriel.
Author's reply
They did have to wait a long time, poor things, but I'm sure they feel it was worth it! They're not entirely sure how they ended up abandoning their candle-filled, rose-scented room for a grassy bank in the woods - but they are both very happy to be there.
I enjoyed writing the Surion scene ... (much easier to do than - er - lurve) ... and you still get themes of honour and duty and family love. And noblesse oblige. All of which goes over Surion's head, because he just accepts all that as the way people are.
Poor Thranduil will feel this, I think. Although the house thing means he gains a daughter, his relationship with Legolas is bound to change. Still it's not too many years now before he finds his Lady.
I think, if her parents and Finrod* had been there, Galadriel might have held out for the full works - but they weren't and, as far as she knew, she would never see them again. Consequently she and Celeborn would defy convention and do as they chose. And, somehow, the idea of this cool, apparently aloof Noldor daughter of kings going off and bonding informally ... well, she would, that's all I can say!
(*I can't take to Orodreth much and, Tolkien's 'A' elves, both Finarfin's sons and Feanor's just haven't developed any personality for me.)
utfrog98
· 14 July 2006
· Chapter 12: Resolution
Beautiful, beautiful chapter. I am so very happy for them.
I really enjoy your work. Thank you.
Author's reply
Thank you. I am delighted you enjoyed it. I'm sure there will be more soon!
MithLuin
· 11 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
Yea, he finally consented! I was wondering what it would take, though I shouldn't have been surprised that it was something so...drastic. I am curious about how the issues with the woodelves will be resolved, though I think I see enough hints.
Author's reply
While I would never say that my stories fit together like the pieces of jigsaw puzzles, they do sort of mix together to make a cake! This story kind of leads into Far Horizons - although it's nearly two years since I wrote that. (I can't believe I've been doing this that long!) And Reflections often stimulates ideas that later become stories - and that is quite a lot ahead of what is happening here.
But yes - it was always going to take something dramatic, I think, to make Taryatur break. He was resisting as stubbornly as he could ... (he must have been driving Linevende insane!) ... but this left him without a word to say. Except 'yes', I suppose.
Not much more now ... I tend not to want the stories to end once I get to this point, but this is definitely winding up.
elliska
· 4 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
Ahh Galadriel--another character that I like (properly portrayed as you write her) every bit as much as Thranduil. She is wonderful here.
And here I was reading happily along, enjoying the banter between Elerrina and Legolas (they already sound like they are married--how do you know they are here / you could have wanred me / ellyn don't carry baskets / I will if I please / etc!) and enjoying the little elfling...I supposed I should have realized it was all too idyllic. I should have caught on at the mention that the elfling was a toddler (in the US that means 'just conquered the skill of walking.' I can't remember if it has the same meaning in the UK). When the elfling disappeared, I was so shocked. And when he fell! I know you are not fond of writing action but you did an incredible job of it here! That trip down the 'stream' was just terrifying. And Taryatur's reaction to it all was fantastic--he was so moved that he forgot to detest Legolas for a good while--even worried over his medical care. Good man...I mean elf! I guess after that he can hardly object!
And the betrothal was wonderful. One year. I think it will be the logest one Legolas has ever experienced. Poor fellow. But it's done now. I just love this story to pieces Bodkin!
Author's reply
I'm very fond of Galadriel. She might be a bit scary to know - but she would have your best interests at heart! And she and Thranduil together amuse me.
Elerrina and Legolas have been given the time to come to know each other as well as properly-brought-up unmarried elves can - in itself enough to let Taryatur glad for an excuse to break the stalemate. Even he can see they suit each other. Surion is just the age where a child is perfectly safe and happy until the two seconds you take your eyes off him - whereupon he suddenly moves at light speed right into the centre of the biggest available danger. Like tortoises. Which move at full maggot gallop until your attention is diverted and then have to be chased down the road. And, as a toddler (yep, same meaning) Nisimalote hasn't quite grasped the need to be on red alert all the time. Thank you - I'm glad you liked the action part! I could imagine that! (Fights are harder. I don't get into many fights. Well. Any fights.)
Taryatur is defending an indefensible position now, I think. That is what is going to irritate him and everyone else so much. He's not going to find it easy to admit that the Wood Elf is a perfectly acceptable son-in-law. Not for a long while. But he's consented - and that's the main thing. Now he'll only be making himself miserable instead of everyone!
One year will be hard, because I reckon they are closer than they have ever been - the bonding must begin as they make their first commitment to each other. But it's taken them about three centuries to get this far. The last year will pass quickly. Probably.
Thank you, elliska. I'm glad you're enjoying this!
elliska
· 4 July 2006
· Chapter 10: Beginnings
Oh wait, I forgot to comment that I loved the conversation about the children of men vs the children of elves too--you really do a great job showing the differences between the elves from valinor and those that lived in Middle Earth and I think that is fascinating. This conversation was a great example of that.
Author's reply
I find it absolutely fascinating to think that - for all the elves of Valinor look on themselves as somewhat better than elves from over the sea - the elves of Ennor have always been looked up to by the second-born. Elves were immortal and beautiful and wise... Elves in Valinor, however, are less immortal, less beautiful and less wise than the Maiar - and the Maiar are ditto compared to the Valar - who aren't around much, but can, if they feel like it, turn round to the elves and be authoritative in their role as the Powers. I wonder how the elves of the marred lands reacted to that twist of fate...
elliska
· 4 July 2006
· Chapter 10: Beginnings
Catching up on reading--I am so sorry to be so far behind...
Hehehe! Of course my favorite part of this chapter was Thranduil and Taryatur's converation. I loved seeing Thranduil through Taryatur's eyes. If even from his perspective, Thranduil still comes across as great, you know that really means something. I bet Taryatur really hated that conversation!
And I loved the conversation about the glass glob Legolas made. I loved that part of the earlier chapter, I love that Elerrina kept what he made and I love her analysis of the whole thing--I think she is very right that trying something you know you have no talent for in order to understand something a loved one loves is a very great sign of love.
And the tension at the end! You could cut it with a knife! Taryatur had better end his objections soon.
(And the advantage of being so far behind is that I have another chapter to read immediately!) *g*
Author's reply
Sorry to be so long in replying!
I wonder if Taryatur is beginning to doubt the attitudes he has held for so long... Thranduil is clearly - for all his exhaustion - a very noble elf. Taryatur doesn't want to change, and will fight it for all he is worth, but you can't help feeling that his own honesty will, in the end, help him to see that he is wrong.
Legolas is not a show-off type - he will listen and learn - and he doesn't feel he needs to turn Elerrina into a typical Wood elleth. He admires her skills - and that is, I think, one of the reasons that she feels comfortable to love and marry outside her comfort zone. Her father might not trust him, but she does. And he's hot, of course. That probably helps!
Taryatur will have to accept soon that he isn't going to change anyone's mind!
thechevin
· 3 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
I was so looking forward to this and it didn't disappoint.
I loved the exchanges between Finrod and his sister, and the explantion about the lands over the mountains, it makes sense that they only become visible or accessible as the need becomes clear.
Although I knew how Legolas and Elerrina became betrothed I found the river incident very tense and Legolas's fight to keep him and Súrion safe or relatively very realistic
Elrond was another wonderful addition, the other healer didn't stand a chance did he, if Elrond hadn't chased him off Miriwen would have and even Taryatur was on Legolas's side on this occasion
Although he certainly found it difficult enough to offer the betrothal didn't he?
He is an honorable elf and this seems to make it worse for him!
Thranduil of course was a wonder, he sees and knows so much and yet despite his own pain gives so much support to others.
I would love to have seen this part of the story through his eyes!
And the ending perfection!
Author's reply
Thank you - I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm rather fond of Finrod - and Galadriel, of course. And I am increasingly convinced that there must have been homelands for the elves who have sailed west. It might just take some time for them all to sort themselves out!
Surion ended up being a little younger than in my first ideas of the scene - but I think toddler Surion worked better. And is less likely to be traumatised by the event. The healer was fairly useless - good at doing one thing at a time, perhaps, but swamped by the situation. Elrond was highly necessary - and Legolas had two skilled combat healers looking after him.
And how could Taryatur refuse the Wood Elf after this! In some ways, I expect he was glad of way to give in - although, of course, he would much prefer Legolas to have just given up. ... Although I suppose he would then have been furious with the Wood Elf for upsetting Elerrina!
Thranduil is, I think, finding that the Blessed Realm is rather more interesting than he feared - and might even be starting to feel it sing in his fea. Little though he would want to admit it. His perspective on the whole thing would be very interesting. And I'm pleased you liked the ending.
Redheredh
· 2 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
You followed that superbly amusing opening exchange with more than one exciting rescue!
What a fortuitous event in the guise of a most unfortunate accident! Which you set up and conveyed with excellent skill! Oh dear, I am speaking in exclamation points! But, it was a wonderful and swift and welcome resolution for their long-stalemated circumstances!
Poor Nisimalote! Of course, she could not breathe! Drowned in panic, she had to be rescued first!
Poor Legolas! But, for sure, what else could he do! What else would he do!! Then, having to suffer that inexperienced healer! But, what else could he do until he was rescued! Camentur's wild ride! Wonder who firt thought to send him?!
Poor Taryatur! What else could *he* do! Not that he wanted it, but he was rescued from making a sad mistake and still would not admit it! And poor Lienende having to hold it in till it was safe! LOL!
Poor Elrond too! Called in by such horrendous news! He must have been been incredibly worried until he got there and could see for himself that his patient could be saved! With Miriwen along side too! Yay!
Poor Thranduil! Life in the BR is not like a picnic, after all! Wait, that's exactly what it is! A family picnic! :D
Poor Elerrina! Rescued from having to set her foot down with her Dad and suffering the consequences of that! Yet, *she* has to be the guardian of society's morals!
Love these intermissions with Litheredh! Keeps the political tension up and in prospective! Your rationalization of how the pass to the western lands was created and not overlooked was brilliant!
That was a *very* sweet ending with father and daughter! And now, the ellith will take charge and things *will* move forward to the proper denouement! Hurrah!
A really great chapter! Really great writing and storytelling!
Author's reply
Thank you! This chapter has been the one set piece that was going to happen from the start - although it has developed a bit. Surion is rather younger than he was going to be, for one thing!
I think, in some ways, even Taryatur is relieved that the stalemate is broken. Not that he is too thrilled by the outcome, but I think even he had come to realise it was inevitable.
Nisimalote froze - Surion is just at the stage where the second you take your eyes off him, he is out of sight and armpit deep in whatever you least want him to do. She thought he was safe and sleeping and .... One of the most terrifying things that can happen to a mother. Promptly followed by the next most terrifying thing - your kid in real danger.
And of course Legolas could do nothing else - he is a warrior and a protector. He would defend an elfling in the face of any danger at whatever cost to himself - and trying to hold off rocks is no different. Who would send Camentur for Elrond? He might have thought of it himself, but I think he would be panicking too much... Linevende, I think, is the most likely candidate. Or Elerrina, who has spent enough time with Galadriel to have a better grasp of Elrond's talents, but her brother might not have listened to her.
I reckon Thranduil will be deeply pleased that life in the BR isn't endless bliss. He will be much happier with work to do. Not, of course, that happiness would involve his son being injured!
Things are still going on, despite the romantic interludes - Litheredh and Haldir can manage things while the other members of the team are busy. And distracted. E&L are likely to be quite distracted until after the bonding - and even then they probably won't be thinking of politics for a while.
Poor Taryatur will have to get used to that Wood Elf. And he will - in a millennium or two. Just as long as Elerrina is happy.
Fire
· 2 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
I knew it. Finrod did know more about the forests on the other side of the mountains, but I think he is telling the truth about the passes not being there before. The Valar knew upfront about the elves of Ennor and their needs for a place of their own.
Now there's a nice picknick, with a rather weird twist. Poor elfling, he was just picking flowers for his naneth, but ends up taking a very cold dip.
And poor Legolas as well, going over the edge of a waterfall with that little elfling in his arms. I think he really could have found a better way to get Taryaturs consent, but I must say it was rather effective wasn't it ;)
I loved the way Legolas reacted to that healer, he is used to getting wounded, but not to this extent, or else he would not be asking for pain relief medicin.
The healer didn't seem very good though, or should I say, not good for anyone knowing Lord Elrond :)
I think that Elrond didn't even think it weird to be called in because Legolas got himself sucked over a waterfall, not with all his experience with his sons.
Taryatur must have really felt cheated by the Powers, there just wasn't anything left for him to do now was there?
I still can't help but feel a bit sorry for him, but his wife is rightand she did offer him a way to save his face.
I would love to see those youngsters Litheredh is watching repeat the things they were saying somewhere where Legolas and the twins could hear them. Those idiots would not know what hit them *evil grin*. But perhaps thats just my need for action speaking.
And I would like to remind them that Galadriel hears everything, and I don't think she would like to hear her grandsons being called mongrels.
I love the picture of both Legolas and Ellerina, the two of them left a bit stunned after exchanging the rings. Legolas did NOT welcome his father pull him away did he? Poor elves having to wait an other year, but it will be worth the wait.
Will Taryatur ever be able to say Legolas without having to think twice about it? He's sure having a lot of trouble with it.
Author's reply
I think the forests are apart from the elves' Blessed Realm - at the moment. Finrod is observant and he has wandered far and wide, both here and east of the sea. He can see further into a brick wall than most!
That Taryatur gave his consent after Legolas had risked his life to save Surion was set as part of the history in one of the early Reflections - and this chapter has always had that element. Surion ended up being rather younger than I originally envisaged, but he would have had to be developed too much as a character to leave this any longer - and Legolas and Elerrina deserve their happiness! He managed to slip away when Nisimalote thought he was sleeping - little kids, like tortoises, are very good at moving at 16x speed as soon as you take your eye off them!
Legolas has had his dealings with healers - and prefers to remain alert, at least if other dangers might be around. But too many parts of him hurt here - and Miriwen is used to dealing with the warriors of Mirkwood. She knows how to hold a nose and tip a dose down a reluctant throat. The healer was a bit out of his depth - not accustomed to so many things needing his attention all at the same time. It's a good thing Elrond was prepared to rush to the rescue.
In a way, Taryatur might have a smidgeon of relief that something has broken the impasse and forced his hand. Elerrina clearly wasn't going to change her mind - and he doesn't want to be estranged from her.
The idiots will get what is coming to them - eventually. Before Elrohir's daughters are born, anyway. Galadriel will be the least of their problems.
Betrothal must bring elven relationships closer to the union of two fea - and I can see the parents being careful to ensure that both parties managed to keep hold of themselves until the formal period of betrothal was complete. I think L&E might find themselves being chaperoned - for their own benefit - over the next months!
Taryatur is having difficulty naming the Wood Elf. Calling him by his name is just a bit too welcoming! But you never know - one day he might even come to look on him as a son. Maybe.
Inglor
· 2 July 2006
· Chapter 1: Sweet Woodbine
Just started reading this story and had to put this line in a review:
This will stop,’ Finrod assured them both. ‘We have seen what comes of elf set against elf – and I will not have it happen here.’
What a crusher... And spoken by one who was there magnifies the weight of this line ten fold. That line has the subtlety of a thunderclap. A Flash of light and BOOM. This Silgeek is happy.
Author's reply
Thank you! I love Finrod. He is such a charmer - but strong, too, and wise. I'm glad you liked it.
Kitty
· 2 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
I love these little bits of elven politics. It's fascinating to watch how much everyone knows without telling others. Sometimes it reminds me of a cat sneaking up to her prey.
Ah, *finally* we know more about the accident in which Legolas saved Elerrinas little nephew! After Súrion was born in the last chapter I hoped this would follow soon, and you didn't disappoint me :)
Poor Legolas! It was brave of him to jump in the river after Súrion in spite of the current, and he probably knew he would not be able to swim properly in *this* water with the child in his arms. How terrible to be thrown against the rocks without being able to do *anything* against it! He must've been in a lot of pain after that.
Well, for once I agree with Taryatur - this healer is not very swift and somehow doesn't seem to be able to prioritise and treat the *worst* injuries first instead of cleaning minor scratches first. Very good idea to send for Elrond! And he was obviously of the same opinion, considering how fast he dismissed the other healer.
Loved the way Legolas reacted to the draught he asked of the first healer and then got without asking from Miriwen. It's a good sign, I suppose, that he is able to show this grim sense of humour in spite of everything. And I had to laugh about Taryatur. Sometimes I feel truly sorry for him, to be honest, as he is only trying to protect his daughter, but mostly I tend to resent the way in which he stands between Legolas and Elerrina. But it is true, now he *has* to consent, after Legolas saved the life of his grandson. Linevende found a great way to help him save his face. The cunningness of the females is not to be underestimated, isn't it? And somehow I have the feeling Linevende is enjoying this quite a bit.
It's not surprising Legolas wanted the betrothal *at once*, no matter if he was able to stand at all. Better get it over as soon as possible, so Taryatur has no time to reconsider or to stall for time again! I am so happy for our dear couple! And of course Legolas had to do it in the traditional manner, if only so that Taryatur couldn't complain for the next score millennia. And to do it hanging upside down from the talons of an eagle, as Thranduil suggested, wasn't much more reasonable *lol*
But I don't like what these brats said Litheredh overheard. It reminds me of certain events in "Far Horizons", though the remark about the 'ruthlessly trained killers' is even worse. The relation to the hydra was quite apt! It's about time someone takes care of these idiots.
Loved this chapter so much and can't wait for more!
Author's reply
I do think elves must have been very good at being wiley. They had so long to learn to apply themselves to the subtleties of politics!
I've known from the beginning exactly what had to happen in this chapter - I must say it made it much easier to write! Surion is a little younger than I originally pictured during this event - but it seemed to work better this way. And - what else could Legolas do? He is a warrior and an adult elf - how could he not risk himself to save a child? And he probably had a good deal more notion just how likely he was to end up badly hurt than many elves of the Blessed Realm.
The healer was a little out of his depth - I don't think he has had to deal simultaneously with a half-drowned child and a badly injured adult before. Somehow I picture the BR being rather more stately and ordered even in injury! I suppose stopping any bleeding was a good idea - but I suspect he might have been quite relieved when Elrond arrived.
I don't think Legolas would generally have been very keen on taking potions - especially not ones that reduced his awareness of danger and readiness to meet it. But, on the other hand, you can't get much safer than in a bed in the BR - and he has multiple broken bones to deal with. I don't think the first healer had much idea, really - whereas Miriwen has centuries of experience of dealing with injured warriors. And getting them to co-operate!
Taryatur had got himself stuck in his 'never!' mind-set - and it took this to jerk him out of it and change his behaviour. He's probably not going to like Legolas any more for having to give in, though. Although when he remembers how the Wood-elf came to Surion's rescue so unhesitatingly, he will waver again! Linevende is mostly relieved, I think. She would have hated having to take a stand against Taryatur. He relies on her support very much and it would have hurt him badly.
And of course the very formal and public betrothal had to be at once! Before anyone could say 'yes, but...' (And I love Thranduil. He deserves his own reunion - although he will have to wait a few more years.)
Yes - these are the Far Horizons brats testing the water. I think we're only 25-40 years before that now. Ish. They will be dealt with ... in time.
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. The end is nigh, now. Unfortunately.
Nilmandra
· 2 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
Well, Taryantur would have to have a heart of steel to not grant his consent after that. LOL, the wood elf might turn out to be too good for them. I love the warrior in Legolas, not overanalyzing anything - just acting. And Legolas deciding that some sort of painkiller was warranted. And especially of course, I loved Elrond's arrival. I loved his smooth way of shepherding the healer out the door.
I hope the high king learns of whomever said his descendents were a bunch of mongrels, too.
Author's reply
I think he knew he had to give in - but was having problems breaking the impasse. And after this, he just didn't have any excuse to keep them waiting any longer.
Battle must be a bit about having trained and trained and acquired knowledge and experience - and then just acting and having it all kick in.
I reckon painkillers were warranted! Again, probably experience would make warriors not want to get too woozy - but in bed in the Blessed Realm is probably as safe as you can get. The young healer was a bit out of his depth - too much at once - just as well super-Elrond arrived. There's a healer with plenty of experience of prioritising injuries!
I don't think Finarfin will learn of this bunch just yet. But they will get their comeuppance - in a few years...
Kitty
· 2 July 2006
· Chapter 10: Beginnings
Ah, finally Súrion is on his way. Though I doubt the birth itself will help Taryatur to get his worries off Legolas.
‘Over two centuries have passed – nearer three, perhaps – since Eldarion passed beyond the world’s circles,’ Elladan said. ‘I imagine it is his grandson’s grandson who now sits on Estel’s throne.’ Hmm ... that seems a bit unlikely to me. Aragorn lived to be 210 years, and one should expect his children and grandchildren to be rather long-lived, too. Even more so as Arwen was of the elves, no matter her choice. I'd expect them to live longer than ordinary men, even if this will diminish in the end - but I can't imagine it would only take two generations. So Eldarion's grandson or great-grandson at the most seems more likely to me. Or do you think they gave over their crown long before they died?
Legolas is a good companion for the twins at the moment, as he knows only to well how they feel, having been through this himself only recently (at least in elven terms of time). He was able to rouse them quite easily out of their listlessness, wasn't he? Obviously ellyth are still a threat.
The conversation between Thranduil and Taryatur was very amusing. Thranduil is obviously not prepared to have Taryatur to wait for some more centuries before agreeing to a betrothal. And this: Thranduil lifted a cool eyebrow. ‘Surely not,’ he said. ‘You would not wish them to know each other that well before the ceremonies.’ was absolutely great! *lol*
Oh, how sweet that Elerrina kept Legolas' first attempt at blowing glass! I think she was right in what she said about it being easy to show off one's talents to impress or trying something one doesn't know anything about out of love. And I loved the end of the chapter and her threat to ask the High King to overrule her adar. She would dare it if necessary, of that I am quite sure.
As for Nisi, I think she underestimated Legolas a bit. She was much too sure he would know absolutely nothing of babys, wasn't she? I hope Legolas was aware of the honour to be allowed to hold Súrion *grin*
Author's reply
Legolas sailed when Aragorn died, then he didn't do much while Gimli was alive (50 years or so) and then took some time to recover from that - and (in my world) the twins and their grandfather, Glorfindel and Thranduil didn't sail for another 300-400 years. Elladan was guessing - but I worked it roughly that they lived to about 200 and the heir was born when they were 50-80 - and they were around 100 when they became king. So around 500 years into the Fourth Age, Eldarion's great-grandson would have died and his grandson's grandson would have become king. But it's all pretty random! I suppose some of them might have handed the crown over - if they were ill or something.
Legolas is probably the best person to encourage the twins - his experience is closer to theirs in a way. And he understands without wanting to mother them, too. He can mention the kind of things likely to spark their interest - and worry them out of their lethargy.
Thranduil doesn't see the point in waiting. It's not as if anything is going to change. Taryatur, on the other hand, was rather hoping that this king of the green elves was going to throw a hissy fit at the thought of his son marrying a Noldo.
You do treasure the oddest things - but Legolas's attempt at glass-blowing was special. One of the first things he did, really, once their courtship was reluctantly condoned. I'm not surprised she treasured it. She doesn't want to over-ride her father - that would put a tremendous dent in their relationship and she does love the old grouch - but I think now she would - if she has to.
Nisi is a typical first time mother - quite scared herself of damaging her precious little bundle and quite, quite sure that no clumsy male can possible know what to do with him! But she did - if reluctantly - release her grip on Surion to let Legolas have a cuddle. I'm sure she noticed he was clearly practised in holding babies.
Jay of Lasgalen
· 2 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
I've been waiting for this chapter ever since that long-ago episode in Reflections! All I can say is ... 'at last!'
I found I still felt sorry for Taryatur even now - but at least he has the honour and wisdom to give in gracefully and accept the inevitable. There's no way now he can still insist that Legolas is 'unworthy'. And Camentur and Nisimalote naturally won't hear a word against him.
Thranduil is, as always, wonderful. I loved his comment about the betrothal: 'Thranduil had told him in exasperation that the betrothal would be just as valid whether he were standing, sitting or hanging upside down from the talons of an eagle.' (I can't help wondering how many betrothals have been conducted in the latter position ...)
Poor Legolas. Poor Surion, for that matter - but the wood-elf has been as brave, resourceful and self-sacrificing as we would expect. Great chapter.
Jay
Author's reply
It took a while to get here ... This chapter was quite easy to write, because I've always known more or less what happened here.
Taryatur has known for a while that he would have to consent - and how can you deny that someone who risked his life to save your grandson will make a worthy son-in-law? C&N will always be staunch Legolas supporters, I should think.
I can't think of many betrothals that might have happened suspended from eagles ... but there's always a first!
Poor Legolas - in the Reflection, the twins tell him to take advantage of the situation, but it's a pretty drastic way to win your bride. Surion was young enough not to remember the horror of this, I think - although I suppose he might be a bit wary of fast-flowing water. It'll be a story to him. And Legolas knows that sometimes an elf's gotta do what an elf's gotta do - and he's done it.
Thank you, Jay. Now it's work out how to finish it time!
daw the minstrel
· 2 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
I have to say I'm overjoyed they're finally betrothed. Both adars are amusing. You've done a nice job of rounding out Taryatur.
I liked it when Elrond arrived with Miriwen. They both know something about badly hurt people.
Author's reply
Taryatur has grown - and developed all sorts of complications, and I have to say I'm now very fond of him! And the rest of the family too. It was a relief to get L&E safely betrothed. Now all they have to do is survive to the wedding... And all I've got to do is think of some way of finishing this before it bumps into another story.
Elrond is the person to have around when you're badly damaged - and Miriwen is pretty useful, too. And, of course, she's actually married to Elladan by this point, as well - I have had to go back and check a few things to keep the timeline roughly right. It's not perfect, but I'm hoping no-one will spot any contradictions!
Thanks, daw. This chapter was easy to do - I've always known what happened at this point. Deciding what comes next - back to tricky!
NanaHalfelven
· 2 July 2006
· Chapter 11: Communion
Bodkin,
Just wanted to let you know how much I have been enjoying the superior quality of your stories... (I've read almost all of them now, but this is my first time reviewing) Even with the amazing quantity so far, I hope you've only just begun to scratch the surface of your ideas!
Author's reply
Thank you very much! I am glad you are enjoying the stories - writing them is such fun and I'm loving every moment. I am in no danger of giving up yet - as soon as I finish one, something else seems to demand my time. I hope you continue to enjoy. Good to hear from you!