Lyn · 23 May 2006 · Chapter 30: Arguments, Letters, and Mushrooms
My favorite was the Eomer and Merry mushrooming conversation. Tasty.
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*laughs* Mushroom fan, are you? Glad you enjoyed it!
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Lyn · 23 May 2006 · Chapter 30: Arguments, Letters, and Mushrooms
My favorite was the Eomer and Merry mushrooming conversation. Tasty.
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*laughs* Mushroom fan, are you? Glad you enjoyed it!
Imbecamiel · 20 May 2006 · Chapter 29: Orcs Again
Oh good - you haven't posted yet, so I've still got time to leave at least a brief review! LOL, it's amazing how several editing jobs, three long parties, and two filthy, hungry, scared kittens can wreak such havok with one's best intentions... YES, Halda, this is definitely a step in the right direction. You do *not* want to be included by Marvanor into her little group of faithful minions. You *do* want to kill her. *shoves knife into Halda's hands and shoves him in the direction of the door* No, crumpling her maps is NOT enough! Get out there and KILL her! Oh, poor, poor Eression! Trying so hard to be as little inconvenience to the twins as possible... And he's human, it's just not possible for him to keep up with them! Captured by orcs! This is... good... *eg* Ack, I've just absolutely got to get to sleep now, or I'll never be able to stay awake for church tomorrow... Absolutely wonderful chapter - VERY much looking forward to more! - Cami
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*laughs* No, I'm afraid any posting schedule I might once have hoped to maintain is gone without a trace. There is no retrieving it! And since it leaves you time to give us your thoughts, I can't say I'm sorry to see it go. *grins* *whistles* You ARE busy, aren't you? Give the kittens a scritch for me! Halda has a tough road to follow at this point. He's been with Mavranor a long time, and that kind of influence is a hard one to shake. But he's making progress...! *blinks at knife* There you go, handing him weapons again! Hm. Yes, I felt awfully sorry for poor Eression when I read this! As you can guess, this was one of Hannah's scenes (she generally covers the twins) and since Eression is more her character than mine, I suppose it's up to her if she wants to make his life miserable. *grins* Fortunately for him, in the long run I believe she is quite fond of him. By all means, get sleep! And thank you for the review; I always love hearing from you, at whatever length! *hugs*
Beriathwen · 18 May 2006 · Chapter 29: Orcs Again
Oh, no! not orcs AGAIN! Poor Elladan and Elrohir! What on earth did they do to deserve that! I was wondering when the story would get back to them. I was so confused about the enmity they held for Eression until I read Darkest Night. It all makes sooo much more sense now! Great job on the fight scene! I hope the twins make it out of this one in mostly one piece...well maybe its a little too late for that. I'm excited to see what happens with Halda. He's a very interesting character. Looking forward to the next chapter!
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That age-old dilemma rises again -- if we like them, we make their lives miserable! Where is the logic? We don't know. *grins* Glad to hear that you were able to read Darkest Night! It's important to this part of the story, at any rate. And I'm glad you liked the fight scene! All Hannah's doing -- she's got a knack for twin scenes and she writes almost all of them! Oh, and we're pleased to hear that Halda has caught your interest! Thank you for the great review!
RS · 16 May 2006 · Chapter 29: Orcs Again
Spikes in tall grass, pits, walls that crumble on their heads, ... this lady means business! Evil Mavranor is thoroughly thinking this out! She is mad..mad I tell you! What's missing in the scene with Mavranor and Halda is the thunder in the background, lightning intermittently shining on her face when she starts to say, "Yours and mine Halda", as her voice booms and echoes through the walls. The mysterious lurking Halda passed the test. He stayed true to himself, he did not succumb to what Mavranor wants. But what does Halda want? What does he smell? Mavranor seems to think that victory is at hand. But she is at a slight disadvantage isn't she? Little does she (and Halda) know that the King and his family are still alive and that the king also has maps..maybe moreso detailed than hers. Mwahahahaha! I will stay tuned. Real scary moment for Eression and the twins. Very suspenseful. I was at the edge of my seat! When Eression heard the crack and loud scream I thought it was the hungry orc biting into or breaking Elladan's limb! I know, I know, gross! Your description of Elladan killing that orc was awesome!(I really am a peaceful person!) I love the closeness between the twins. I can feel Elrohir's panic rising while screaming for his brother. A heart-stomping chapter. RS
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Yeah, Mavranor isn't nice. Crazy does not equal haphazard when it comes to tactics, unfortunately. *grins* You think thunder would have worked well there? It did have a bit of a clash-of-the-elements feel. Yes, Halda is still Halda -- the only remaining question being (metaphysically): who is Halda? :-P The advantage of Aragorn still being alive depends upon him getting home in time, but you're right: Mavranor's already working with an unknown quantity and she doesn't realize it. Not only Aragorn either... As ever, the wonderful work with the twins was Hannah's doing! She has a knack for them, and tends to write they're best (and worst, if you look at it from their POV) scenes! Speaking of the twins, there's more on the way! Thank you so much for the great review; it really made our day!
Lady Saruman · 14 May 2006 · Chapter 28: Only A Steward
No, I most certainly am NOT patient! *snaps* However, I'm glad you didn't kill Faramir. If you did, don't be surprised at who ended your life. JK! But all this killing...me no like it...if you kill one more good guy I suppose I'll have to invite Imbecamiel to come with me and kill you both. *grins toothily* However, as you can see, I missed out on a chapter again. Why am I always so busy? Blame the TEACHERS! They suck. I mean, listen to this and you'll agree. Okay. A debate due in three days. Two projects for science, one due on May 22nd and one on June something. A music project, due June 8th. And finally, an English project that's sure to be due soon. I have to memorize a poem and recite it to the class! Mannnn! *Pouts* And very recently, only on Friday, I've finished our state testing, called CAT 6 (California Achievement Test, 6th edition). Okay, okay, I'll stop my complaints and I'll review. Chapter 28 (EIGHT WHOPPING PAGES!) Everything's all right now. Beregond the Sleepless...hahaaa I like that. But, it seems that Faramir's attack left him impaired with his speech if he says things tonelessly. Only a steward! Boy are they wrong! *Ahem, Denethor...you were a bad father...* And yes, likewise to "Queen" Mavranor. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ah, poor Duurben. He's not exactly old, is he, but old enough to not withstand being collided in his lower back. I'm surprised he didn't break a lot of bones within his body. Eldarion has a nice battle cry. "'YAHHH!'" Well I expect that's what protrudes from all little boys' mouthes. Anyways tell him that I complimented him, will you? Eldarion's a young boy, really, but he's quite alert. I love him for that. He knows that Tantur's stupid and thoughtless but he still doesn't know what the traitor did. Apparantly word never reached his ears. Until...Duurben tells him that he let down Arwen and her family. I also love Eldarion because of his special way of comforting his elders...and he's right, it certainly is good to let it out. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There seems to be comfort in all three places--with Faramir, Bartho, Beregond, and Eldarion with Duurben, and now Arien and Arwen. People suffering from illness do tend to talk while sleeping...and reliving nightmares...I should know. And Arwen obviously hasn't known about the fancy Bartho and Arien have for each other. Well, she can't, since she's been unconsious most of the time. I'm glad a romance is building up (I think) and it'll better off for them two. Bartho is gruff, now is he? Oh and by the way this quote intrigues me: "Estel tells me a woman was unkind to him." Did that woman happen to be Lindamar? I love the way Arien decides to share her letter with her lady. Reading it out loud may have been more relieving...in a way. Oh, I never knew that Arien and Bartho would know Dwarvish. Arien is right--she shouldn't translate it to Arwen, since Elves aren't too friendly with Dwarves. And besides, the Dwarvish language is quite crude, nothing like the beautiful and fluid Elvish. Also: "I'm still trying to decide what I shall write back. I feel like a lass again. Here I am, grown woman, quaking in my skirts lest he turn me away. I assumed no man would ever make me feel this way. I certainly assumed any man who did would be… well… different, I suppose." Arien should certainly write back and declare whatever she feels about him. If they love each other, then one of them will have to say it first, otherwise, it'd keep going on forever, no one admitting anything. Whatever Arien's feeling--well, probably it's something assosiated with love. This was funny also, especially for someone like Arwen to think so: "I had the same dilemma. Estel was wearing a tattered, mud-spattered coat and smelled of orc, for one thing, and for another he didn't have the right ears. At least… I believe that's what was troubling Adar at the time. I was having a hard time concentrating on his objections…" Smelled of orc? Probably because he's been fighting them in his Ranger days and no bath for YEARS. Wrong ears? That's because he's human. And Arwen's partly right, though. Elrond objected partly because Estel wasn't an elf, and Elrond doesn't want his daughter to experience the bitterness of mortality. And, finally: Hurry home, Elessar. The Evenstar is waning fast… This is so true, since the Lhandlas is not completely effective, and as said before, each dawn robbed the queen of a little more life...hurry home indeed. Speaking of which, hurry home from Illinois to post a new chapter. Hersheymania!! -Lady Saruman
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We've heard that homework is a nightmare, and it sounds like the reports weren't exaggerated! Good luck, and don't worry if you run out of time and can't review! School deadlines are more important than fanfic ones! *grins* We'd have to agree on the Denethor statement. Whatever else he might possibly been good at, parenting was not his strong point. It's safe to say that Duurben is indeed getting too old for such games of tackle. Happily, no broken bones this time! We shall pass your battle cry compliment onto Eldarion immediately, and while we're at it, we'll pass it on to our little brother David on whose mock-battles that particular yell was based. *laughs* Glad you approve of Eldarion's people-savvy! We felt it was natural that Aragorn and Arwen's son be fairly canny about such things. *cooes* You're right, that woman was Lindamar! And yes indeed -- unbeknownst to himself, Bartho is falling rather hard for a certain lady-correspondent of his. And yes, Dwarvish would sound nothing like the beauty of Elvish. Bartho doesn't actually know the whole language -- the word he used was a derogatory adjective which Arien, whose father and brother were Dunedain, had heard before and knew the meaning of. *grins* You're probably right -- someone really needs to speak up here, and Bartho sure is taking his time! Illinois was great fun, but we're glad to be home, and in honor of that feeling: more is on the way! Hersheymania back atcha!
RS · 8 May 2006 · Chapter 28: Only A Steward
"I'm only a Steward.."??? Curse that Denethor for making Faramir feel irrelevant!! Just like Bartho, I too laugh at those words. HAHAHA! And to Queen Mavranor? A bigger HAHAHAHAHAHAH! What a lovely moment with Eldarion and Duurben. Not only does he share his parent's looks and agility.."with his elven mother's and Dunadan father's influence clear in the ease with which he balanced in that pose." (I love hearing about Aragorn's and Arwen's children and the traits that they share), he also has their compassion. That line says it all,"There were many things worth crying for, but not the least was the loss of his nephew and the relief of forgiveness." What a brutally honest and innocent conversation! The heart of a child has helped release such turmoil and grief in this strong, proud, soldier. What a beautiful image that last sentence made, "He felt an arm looped over his bowed shoulders and a hand patting him gently on the back." Fade and cut back to black. Bartho's letter has got to be the most romantic letter ever written! I had this huge smile reading between the lines. Very sweet! As far as Estel smelling of orc?--he can smell like dried up fish and it wouldn't bother me! I mean....look at him!!! (Sorry)"...and for another he didn't have the right ears.." Very funny. No new trouble, no action, not much angst in this chapter, but very insightful. WE got a chance to peak into the depths of the characters. I love it!! I know you're just prepping the reader for the upcoming chapters. This is just a rest as I have a feeling I ain't seen nothing yet! And...hurry home Elessar!!! Hope you had a grand time in Illinois!!
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That is indeed one of the biggest bones we ever had to pick with Denethor! His horrible treatment of his youngest son! That, and the near ruin of Gondor. *grins* Nasty man! Laugh away, RS! It's a constant amazement to us (as the oldest two of ten kids) how little kids will be simultaneously too blunt for words, and yet understand so much. It depends on the child, of course, but like you we enjoyed speculating on how Aragorn and Arwen's children would behave, and it seemed they couldn't help but be naturally gifted in that way. Glad you enjoyed Bartho's letter! It was behaving very trickily until Bartho himself stepped in and took over -- at which point he rapped out some highly unusual dwarvish. There are advantages and hazards to such characters... *laughs* Yes, it is hard to see why Elrond could possibly object! Of course, he was probably thinking 'mortalmortalmortalMORTALyoucrazygirl!' more than anything else. Thank you so much for your wonderful review! It gave us abundant warm fuzzies, and made us want to post ASAP! *grins* Which we will now do! Oh, and yes, thank you, we did indeed have a grand time in Illinois!
Imbecamiel · 7 May 2006 · Chapter 28: Only A Steward
Well, yet again you chose the perfect time for a delay in posting, as far as I’m concerned - time enough now for me to get back from vacation and review before the next chapter :-) Hope you have/had/whichever-the-case-may-be-when-you=see-this a wonderful time in Illinois! “Beregond the Sleepless”… *giggles* And Bartho proves yet again that, during war at any rate, assuming the worst is often a very good idea. //few things in life had rational, harmless answers// LOL, well, not when you’re within a hundred miles of just about any canon LOTR character, at any rate… Hey… I thought you said no one dies in this chapter! *raises eyebrow and looks pointedly at very-much-dead assassin* Hmm, still, I suppose since it *is* a Haradrim warrior, and not a hero, I can let it pass this time… *g* //"No, in all honesty. I'm only a Steward, Bartho. Hardly the proudest and strongest of men." Faramir's tone was wry. "You're only— oh, never mind." Bartho scowled blackly, muttering, "The lie's entrenched; why waste time?” // Poor Faramir! So used to thinking of himself as insignificant, so convinced that at most he’s only a very poor second-best… Only a Steward! Only the one man whose loss, next to Aragorn, would likely be most devastating to the free people of Middle Earth, especially at this moment! Only one of the most honorable, sweet, noble, kind… Only the man whose mere presence in Minas Tirith was enough to raise the spirits and bring back the courage of the soldiers under the oppression of the ringwraiths’ shadow! Only the man who was able to resist the call of the Ring, where his brother failed! Only a man who can remain friends with his brother, despite their father’s favoritism! Only a man who can balance a gentle and generous spirit with the determination and resolve of a soldier! Only a man who can win the admiration, trust, and loyalty of every soldier of Gondor - not to mention the love of Eowyn! Only a man whose injury is enough to keep every soldier in camp from sleeping, for worrying about him! Oh yes… *nods seriously* Hardly someone worth bothering over. I can see why he’d be surprised that Mavranor would even consider it worth her while to try taking him out. After all, it’s not like he’s even that great a leader, it’s not as if the army would have any trouble at finding an equally good replacement for him… *snorts* //"Here's to Lord Denethor: may he be writhing in humiliation over the worst misjudgment of his life. And here's to Queen Mavranor: likewise.”// Amen! LOL! Oh, you really threw me for a loop for a second with Duurben “being stalked”. I was thinking, “What, *more* assassination attempts?!” Glad to hear it’s Eldarion’s way of cheering himself up, not yet another traitor - I don’t think he could have taken that just yet. Oh, what awful timing, though! Just for one split second he loses his concentration, and gets buried in grief and sorrow, and at that precise moment he gets tackled. Poor guy. I just loved the conversation between Eldarion and Duurben! Oh, I couldn’t even tell you a favorite line - the whole thing’s just so… wonderful. Poor Duurben, hurting so much, and left alone by his closest friends, who might have normally been able to talk him out of blaming himself. And Eldarion, so sweet, trying to be brave despite all that’s happened, so young, but saying things and dealing with the situation for the most part in a way that's wise beyond his years… You can definitely see the influence of both his father and his mother :-) Such a great conversation, and I think in the end it comforted *both* of them. *gets warm fuzzies* Yay, we get to see Arien again! Hehe, and I just love that little glimpse into the royal family’s life. //'Naneth, I drowned. But not really.'// Ha! Just like a little boy - and such a perfect, gentle way to break the news to her… *g* A wonderful, funny break, but so bittersweet, considering the circumstances! Oh yes, Arwen’s found out about Arien and Bartho! Good, now we’ve got friends giving good counsel to *both* of them :-) Hehe, oh I love his letter to her! He‘s so sweet… He just deserves a happy ending with someone like her, after all this time! Oh… for shame, though, Bartho, such language - and to a lady! *attempts to hide silly grin under reproving look* Lovely chapter, as always - and very much looking forward to more! - Cami P.S. YES you freaked me out with the attack on Faramir! I was surprised at it myself, when I suddenly realized in the middle of the fight that I knew perfectly well that he wasn’t going to die… so why on earth was I holding my breath?! LOL, definitely a sign of a good writer, when you can get that wrapped up in the action, and forget entirely that of *course* you do actually know how it‘s going to turn out. P.P.S. Oh, it’s nearly *impossible* to find SP books at the library, isn’t it? They’ve only got a few at our library and, even worse, when they’re abridged, there’s nothing I can find in the book that tells you so! Heh, I found that out when I finally read the *full* version of Eldorado, and realized that not only had they cut out some wonderful parts, they’d taken out entire CHAPTERS - including the one where Percy actually gets captured! LOL, no wonder I always thought that part was a bit abrupt… :-P But at any rate, if you’d like to be able to read the full, unabridged versions of every SP book written, you can go to www.blakeneymanor.com. They’ve not only got all the SP books typed up online, they’ve also got some other very good ones by the Baroness. I’d definitely recommend “Beau Brocade” for one - reminds me a bit of Robin Hood, Zorro, and the SP all wrapped up in one :-) P.P.P.S. If you’ve seen the Anthony Andrews SP, you’ve seen the best movie of it I’ve been able to find - and I’ve searched the internet and watched every one I could get my hands on. If you have not seen the A&E version, count yourself lucky! Do not - I repeat, do NOT, see that movie! Ack, that is the absolutely worst version of it possible. They’ve massacred plotlines, mashing together several different books and throwing in weird things haphazardly, they’ve turned wonderful, honorable characters into disgusting, crude, womanizing jerks, many of the changes they put in were just plain stupid and impractical, Percy had NO idea of the meaning of the word “disguise”, Percy is neither funny nor smart, their idea of a brilliant rescue is "let's just run in and shoot all the guards!", and they KILLED Tony for crying out loud! And what was Percy’s response to that? “He knew the risks.”, and that’s the end of the matter. Honestly, the movie gets so crude sometimes that it’s not even worth watching for a good laugh at how little they understand the books. The only single redeeming feature I could find was that I liked the actor they chose for Andrew. Other than that… Well, I’ve seen online lists of dozens of reasons why they were totally out of keeping with both the books and historical facts, and I definitely agree. One of the worst cases of ruining a book I’ve seen. Ahem, yes, end of rant. Just don’t see it :-P LOL, it’s the most modern version, so it scared me so badly when you said you were “a big fan“ of the more recent version… *wipes forehead in relief*
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We had a very good time in Illinois! Thanks for asking. It was busy, and we returned from our vacation in need of a vacation (I’m sure you’re familiar with the phenomena), but for all that we had fun! I hope your trip was equally good! *laughs* Yes, you’re right! Bartho’s paranoia is more than justified considering present company. The real wonder is how few other people within the story seem to catch on to that disastrous propensity! *blinks, mildly taken aback* Erm… Yes, I guess I wasn’t counting the dead Southron when I said that. *grins* It doesn’t look like Nulla was much mourned, though. *applauds* Amen indeed! You have summed it up excellently, I think. Funny how, though we are everlastingly frustrated by Faramir’s self-effacement, we love him for it as well. Talk about a paradox. The inability to think of himself as anything important is simultaneously what makes him such a good leader and such a constant concern -- men like that are difficult to preserve! They’re all too likely to step in front of a bus for the sake of someone else. Wow, we really had you going? *bounces happily* Thank you! And yes, poor Duurben, this just ain’t his day… week… really, it’s not his month either. *rueful look* We are incredibly happy that you enjoyed Duurben and Eldarion’s scene!! We do love to give warm fuzzies. And you’ll be happy to hear that Duurben’s misery is beginning to plateau! From here, things start to look up… *grin* For him, at least. Bartho’s letter was a harder one to write than we expected, so your praise is pleasant indeed! I realized (a little belatedly) that much of his personality is communicated through his actions rather than his words, and a letter is nothing *but* words! The first couple drafts were just too well-written, oddly enough, and just when I was getting *really* frustrated, Bartho took over. The sudden insertion of colorful dwarvish seemed a small price to pay for deliverance from character-block! Thanks for the SP link! I shall have to check that out now that I’m home! I haven’t even checked the library yet, but I’m sure you’re right. Our library is a small one, and they have a tendency to sell old books to make way for the new. A travesty that results in such gaps as a Dorothy Sayers section containing only one poor collection of short stories! Meh. Sorry to scare you! *laughs* Thank you so much for the warning! I wasn’t terribly likely to rent the A&E version, as I’m so fond of the Anthony Andrews one, but it’s good to know all the same. --“They’ve massacred plotlines, mashing together several different books and throwing in weird things haphazardly, they’ve turned wonderful, honorable characters into disgusting, crude, womanizing jerks, many of the changes they put in were just plain stupid and impractical, Percy had NO idea of the meaning of the word “disguise”, Percy is neither funny nor smart, their idea of a brilliant rescue is "let's just run in and shoot all the guards!", and they KILLED Tony for crying out loud! And what was Percy’s response to that? “He knew the risks.”, and that’s the end of the matter. Honestly, the movie gets so crude sometimes that it’s not even worth watching for a good laugh at how little they understand the books.”-- It was worth the warning just for the sake of that sentence! *applauds* Your rants are so fun. *grin* Thank you for the wonderful review! More is on the way!
Beriathwen · 4 May 2006 · Chapter 28: Only A Steward
Hope you have fun in Illinois! I recently finished Darkest Night. I loved it! I think it might be my favorite although I really liked Thorongil too! I'm glad Faramir and Beregond and Erynbenn are ok! I'm a little worried about Aragorn and Legolas though. They haven't had very many close brushes with death yet. And that's a little unusual. Although, its possible that i have been reading too many stories lately and I need to reread the current one so I don't get storie lines mixed up. As I was reading Thorongil I found myself accidently thinking of Mavranor as an "old" woman a couple of times! I love the interaction of the characters in this chapter. Eldarion is so sweet! And Arien's letter from Bartho was cute! Definitely a fun chapter!
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We had a lot of fun in Illinois, thank you! We're so glad you liked Darkest Night! It's funny you should say it's your favorite, because it happens to have been our favorite as well! I'm not altogether sure why, but there it is. *ponders* You're right! Aragorn and Legolas *haven't* brushed death very often thus far! Huh. Must find a way to fix that... *laughs* That's funny you should experience such a mix-up, because it took us a while to get used to Mavranor looking decrepit when we started writing this story! Thank you so much for the review; we're glad you enjoyed that chapter! More en route...
Imbecamiel · 29 April 2006 · Chapter 27: Fatigue
Hmm… *eyes narrow suspiciously* Erynbenn’s alive… For the time being at any rate. Which I suppose means I can hold back on the “OR ELSE”… For the time being at any rate. *eg* LOL! Oh now this is just incredible… He’s lying there, nearly dead, barely conscious, and what’s he thinking? He wants to know if Faramir wants his report now! Those stubborn Rangers… *shakes head* Ha! Yeah, that’s the way to go, Bartho - guilt him into recovering! Good idea, reminding him of his wife like that… *g* Poor Erynbenn, though… Of all the things he needed to hear, the fact that nearly all of his men got killed was *not* one of them. Alright, that’s it. Mavranor has now definitely confirmed her position in the top ten MUST DIE list. *growls* Yes, Halda, regrets are good, disgust is good, feeling pity for Gondorians is good, not liking Mavranor is definitely good… NOW DO SOMEHTING ABOUT IT ALREADY! *shoves knife into Halda’s hands and pushes him toward Mavranor* LOL, oh these leader-hero-types are sooo lucky to have lieutenants to look after them. If they didn’t, they’d manage to starve, work themselves to death, and die of sleep deprivation and/or untreated wounds in the middle of a well-protected, well-stocked camp. *g* Lucky for Faramir, not only does he have a faithful lieutenant, Beregond has already more than proven that he’d rather die than let anyone harm Faramir. Hehe, though methinks from the way Beregond's been behaving, he could use a faithful second of his own... Poor Beregond! The very thing he’d intended to make sure that Faramir was safe, wound up being what gave an assassin the clue he needed to find out where he was. Talk about the ironies of life… Whew! Honestly, even though I was quite sure from the beginning that Faramir was one person you wouldn’t kill off, once that assassin actually started sneaking into camp I found myself getting so tense and scared and wrapped up in what was happening that I completely forgot that I knew he wasn’t actually going to succeed! LOL, luckily, Faramir appears to have been taking lessons from Bartho as regards expecting the worst. *applauds soldiers’ preparedness and quick reflexes* Something tells me that assassin’s actually lucky Faramir mortally wounded him - breaking the news to Mavranor would likely have earned him far worse. Ack, I really must run! Things to do, places to go, suitcases to pack … See you again next time! Wonderful chapter (especially since no one’s dead yet)! Looking forward to more! (especially if no one else dies. *pauses* On second thought, I’d make an exception for Vardnauth, Mavranor, and certain Haradrim and Corsair soldiers.) - Cami P.S. Oh, I’m glad you’re enjoying that Ivanhoe! It can be so hard to find really good versions of books like that, can’t it? Always such a surprise when you can find something even partially satisfactory :-)I am curious as to what you think of De Bracy now... Am I the only one who feels terribly sorry for him? P.P.S. Ooo, which SP books have you read? I’ve read nearly all of them now… My personal favorite would definitely have to be Eldorado - I’ve re-read that one *so* many times! And Triumph of the Scarlet Pimpernel has some particularly wonderful parts. LOL, conversations between Percy and Chauvelin that make me giggle just thinking about them… *g* Hmm, and which “more recent” version is it that you like? Would that be the one with Antony Andrews and Jane Seymore, or the A&E one?
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*wipes forehead* Whew. Well, that's a relief! *grins* I don't think we'll give you cause to 'or else' us again on Erynbenn's behalf in this story, but you know... it's been so long since I've read parts of this fic, that I'm having a hard time remembering... *looks anxious* Bartho cares deeply about a lot more people than he thinks he does, but all the same he will never be the coddling sort. Up-front and ever-practical, to him the salient points of the situation are: Your men have died (as men are wont to do in war), but you are alive and you have a wife and son waiting at home for you (not to mention me, here). *grins* And he knows that what you tell people is often a lot better than what they will imagine if left to their own imagining. Even if reality seems improbably awful. *obediently moves Mavranor to top of 'must die' list* There may be a slight delay on this -- you know how it is with paperwork! *watches Cami shove a knife at Halda* Oh my. Well, keep at him! Who knows? He's still pretty scared of her, though. *laughs* Glad you like Faramir and Beregond's interactions! I totally agree -- good leaders would fall to wrack and ruin without their faithful seconds. And Beregond could indeed do with a Beregond of his own... *rueful look* Happily this particular irony will never be made known to poor Beregond. It'd just make him feel guilty over nothing. *looks altogether too eager* Did we freak you out? Oh goody! I mean, er... sorry 'bout that. It's always rather fun putting unkillable characters in dire situations. And no, Mavranor would have had no sunshine to spare for a failed assassin. You're packing too? What a coincidence! So are we. *grin* More is on the way, and I believe nobody dies in this particular installment... pretty sure, anyway... Ivanhoe was great! I'd have loved to see it done with slightly better technology, but generally when you add technology you have to sacrifice story accuracy, so maybe it's better off as it is. Ivanhoe himself was excellent, and I loved Wamba and Robin Hood! Those three were my favorite characters from the book. DeBracy definitely came off better in the movie. He was the only honorable guy in a sea of debauchers, for one thing. I still couldn't condone his methods, of course, but I did feel sorry for him. And I've read the original 'Scarlet Pimpernel', and also 'The League of the Scarlet Pimpernel'. I'll have to see if I can find any of the others at the library. The movie version with Antony Andrews is the one we own, yes. Was the A&E version any good? Thanks for the fantastic review!! We loved it, as always! *hugs*
RS · 25 April 2006 · Chapter 27: Fatigue
Can you stop killing the Gondorions and start killing the ones that deserve it? Seventeen out of 200 survived?!! I hope we have enough Gondorions left to defend the kingdom until Aragorn arrives. "..snakes do not have lips"...GREAT LINE! I've a feeling that Halda will be one of the downfalls (if not THE ONE) of Mavranor. I felt his disgust towards her---don't blame him. She's so vile! The attack on Faramir was really scary! Great job describing it! My heart was palpitating! I am so glad Faramir got the (excuse me) SOB! Brilliant job. Totally wonderful chapter!
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*grins sheepishly* Will you take a rain-check on decimating the bad guys? We promise, we're not just sadistic. We based poor Erynbenn's massive defeat on various Civil War battles where, on several occasions, whole companies (groups of up to a hundred men) were left with only two or three foot-soldiers still alive. Ultimately, as dumbfounding as such a defeat sounds (how can they keep *fighting* after that??), it doesn't drastically affect the size of the army. Certainly Faramir is starting to run low, but there's plenty of fight left in this group! *grin* *bounces* Glad you liked the snake line! We do love it when you tell us specifics! And that's interesting what you said about Halda... If I say more, my sister will hurt me, but all the same: it's interesting! *grins* *hugs RS* Thank you, thank you! SO glad you liked the battle! *hands RS glass of water and box of chocolate* I'm not sure how to cure heart palpitations, but hopefully that will help. *grins* Thank you for the wonderful review!
RS · 25 April 2006 · Chapter 26: In Which Erynbenn Fights
I had a feeling it was a trap. Now, were the orders from Faramir or where they fake orders forged by Mavranor? Battle scenes were horrific and graphic which had me cringing. It felt like I was in the midst of it--I was actually frightened for Erynbenn and his men! I'm glad at least Erynbenn had the satisfaction of knowing that Faramir had come before he blacked out. Very good!
Raksha The Demon · 25 April 2006 · Chapter 27: Fatigue
Faramir is certainly not an easy man to kill, even when surprising him in his sleep! I loved the interaction between Faramir and Beregond; and Faramir relaxing by fixing the bridle. I hope Faramir's men manage to catch Nulla and get some information out of him before he dies.
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*laughs* Thank goodness, eh? What would we do without Faramir! Very glad you enjoyed Beregond and Faramir together! There's so much history between them; it makes them very fun to write. Unfortunately, Nulla's pretty much dead at this point... We always give the characters we love best the worst luck! Thank you for the review!
Imbecamiel · 23 April 2006 · Chapter 26: In Which Erynbenn Fights
You. Had. Better. Not. Kill. Him. *glares* I don’t care what you say about the story being already written - IF YOU’VE KILLED HIM YOU’D BETTER GET STARTED ON SOME PRETTY QUICK RE-WRITING! He CAN’T die! I LIKE HIM! You CAN’T kill him! It-it… *thinks frantically* It would be too mean to Bartho! Think of all the poor guy’s been through already! You can’t do that to him! YOU CAN’T DO THAT TO *ME*! *scowls* And yes, I realize I’m reviewing totally out of order. And yes, I’m going to go back to the beginning and do it properly now. And yes, if he actually dies, I will kill you. Oh that does have to be quite nerve-wracking. He’s spent most of his life among Dunedain, who spent years learning how to move stealthily, and who spent most of their lives trying to be as quiet and unobtrusive as possible, and trying NOT to be noticed. Now he’s in charge of men who, while they may be very good soldiers, have never really been taught the value of silence, and are much more used to the direct approach than sneaking around and trying to take people by surprise. And it’s kinda hard not to notice an entire army. //“We have a clear, straight course, and I'd like for this to be as quiet and unobtrusive as two hundred running soldiers can be, understood?"// LOL! Well… Good luck with that, then… Gack! Ambush is not good. Especially when you’ve just brought a small force to take care of a supposedly much weaker enemy… I hope this doesn’t mean the scouts have betrayed them, too! That’s *just* what the Gondorian army could use about now - a few more traitors in positions of trust :-P Whoa! Mavranor’s been digging tunnels?! Now there’s an… unpleasant surprise… Apparently this woman has lost none of her plotting, scheming skills over the years. Not exactly what they needed to hear right about now… //"No, I always sleep like this; saves time when catastrophes intrude on my sleep. Where is Erynbenn?”// LOL! Sleeping fully armed… How very like Bartho :-) And it says something about how well Faramir knows him by now that he barely even raises an eyebrow at the discovery - and that he doesn’t even try to keep him from coming to Erynbenn’s rescue. *sighs* It’s happening again… Already, I think I’m beginning to really like Anto. At first, I was actually inclined to be quite suspicious of him, considering he was Erynbenn’s only lieutenant and the way they were ambushed by what was supposed to be a much smaller group... Hehe, but apparently the fact that Tantur’s made me start to get suspicious of everyone doesn’t keep me from instantly liking everyone anyways… *g* Ah and here we are again, at the place where I throw a fit, and panic, and worry obsessively over a character’s fate. Only I won’t. No, this time I will be quite calm and collected. This is, after all, “only” a story, with mere fictional characters, who… who… WHO YOU HAD BETTER NOT KILL! I LIKE Erynbenn, and he’d BETTER not die! You-you YOU JUST CAN’T! If you do, I’ll-I’ll… I’ll… I’ll quit reading! That’s it, I’ll quit reading! *looks smug* I’ll just go away, and quit reading, and… never find out what happened… *blinks* On second thought… You’d better not kill him OR ELSE! *smiles happily at sufficiently vague threat* Wonderful chapter (as long as Erynbenn’s not dead)! Looking forward to more (especially if Erynbenn’s not dead *g*)! -Cami P.S. Would you tell Chloe for me that I really *haven’t* forgotten her? I *am* going to finish reviewing for her! I’ve just had so many editing requests lately that, what with trying to keep up with one thing and another, my reviewing time has been extremely limited :-P But I haven’t forgotten!
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*hides with her sister under the desk* Golly, Hannah, we really got a rise out of the readers this time, didn't we? *anxious peek to see if coast is clear yet...* *...it isn't...* *...in fact there is a slightly crazed looking Cami lying in wait for them with an 'Or Else'* Eep! I'll just respond to your feedback from down here, shall I? In regards to Erynbenn, whose safety seemed the single greatest concern of your review, I feel I can only say: proceed to the next chapter! All will be revealed! Any apologies for freaking you out like this, any reassurances or condolences (which might either of them be premature), and certainly any attempts to calm you down would probably not be very wise at this juncture. *sheepish grin* Rant away, dear. *laughs* Nef mentioned that you guys like war movies, so you'll understand when I say that I've always pictured Dunedain as the equivalent to Army Rangers -- and thus Erynbenn's predicament equivalent to an Army Ranger captain suddenly handed the job of leading a platoon of regular ground troops, and a green ones at that. Aggravating indeed! No, no betrayal from the scouts -- just a fairly typical case of bad information, coupled with a tidy ambush. I think back to the days before high-tech communication devices and I wonder how *anyone* managed to win wars. Once you set out, you're pretty much on your own, no matter how plans change -- and when things DO change, you don't find out about it until it's far too late to do anything or regroup. It all seems to so hopelessly hunt-and-peck and keep-your-fingers-crossed... *rueful shrug* Mavranor may be a decaying old bat, but as you say: she's still got her edge. *laughs* I'm glad you enjoyed the fresh Bartho-ism! I think he would probably join you in your threats on Erynbenn's behalf, thus it behooves us to either cave to common demand or... find a better hiding place. I'm glad you like Anto! He was a second-draft character, nonexistent right up until the this chapter, and then he suddenly wrote himself into place. I'm going to go out on a semi-illegal limb here and tell you not to worry: Anto is not a second Tantur (we didn't think about how suspicious Tantur might make everyone else seem!), and furthermore he survives this story mostly intact. *grins* It's the least I can do after we killed Tirin off! I'll pass on your message to Chloe! I'm sure she would honestly tell you not to worry -- she's having troubles of her own with that series. *grins* Thank you for the wonderful review!! More coming today (I dearly hope)!
Beriathwen · 20 April 2006 · Chapter 26: In Which Erynbenn Fights
I'm the worst reviewer ever! I'm rather new at this. And I didn't discover this story until there was already like 25 chapters! I will try to be more consistent reviewing from now on. You are very talented writers! I wish I could write like that! I just finished Death and Despair and I'm almost done with Thorongil (I'm not sure if I'm reading them in order...) They're great stories and I'm kinda glad I discovered them late so I don't have to wait for updates (which is absolute torture!) Oh my my goodness! Erynbenn had better not be dead! That would be dreadful! *sob* He's a wonderful character! And Bartho! I fell in love with Bartho when he first showed up! Don't know why I always fall for the tall dark silent types, but characters like Bartho get me every time (that's certainly not to say that I'm not particularly attached to a certain blonde elf and a certain ranger who shall both remain nameless...) Anyway, be nice to Bartho! (menacing growl) I look forward to the next update! And maybe with practice I'll get better with this reviewing stuff! : )
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Heavens, you are most certainly not the worst reviewer ever! This is wonderful! No matter how short, we love to hear that you're reading our story and enjoying it! That puts you on the 'best' list. *grins* And if reviewing is a compliment, reading our previous work is even more flattering. I'm glad you're enjoying them! Yes, you're reading them in the right order -- the next one after 'Thorongil' is 'Darkest Night', and then this one. Erynbenn's fate will be decided in the next chapter (which I hope to post tonight or tomorrow, depending...) I'm glad you like Bartho! We're rather fond of silent types too (again: barring that elf and ranger duo). Knowing how fond you (and we) are of him, we shall try to be nice! Thank you for the excellent review, and we hope you keep reading!
Lady Saruman · 20 April 2006 · Chapter 26: In Which Erynbenn Fights
By the way, did you know that you never answered any of our reviews for Chapter 21? And can you please tell me what site you get your elvish from? I'm rather keen on learning. -Lady Saruman
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Sorry I wasn't more clear about this: What with my car disaster, I found I simply wasn't going to be able to respond to those reviews. *sighs* They were wonderful, and I wish I could, but it's about all I can do to keep up with the current work, and I'm afraid there's no time to go back. Sorry! And thank you for your review on 21, even if I couldn't give it the proper attention! Oh, and I mention our elvish translating method in my reply to your longer review! *smiles*
Lady Saruman · 20 April 2006 · Chapter 26: In Which Erynbenn Fights
Didja notice my prolonged absence for about four chapters or so? Or did you become so obsessed in answering the reviews of others that you forgot me completely? Okay, there was a BIG reasonable excuse for my monthly absence. School has been killing me, and due to two projects due on one day, I had to pull two all-nighters already. >_< Sooooooooooooooooo, I printed out chapters 24 and 25 at school to read. See, that proves that I love your story--that I printed some of it out--I'm planning to print out the whole story, but I think the librarian's starting to suspect something. <=( Okay, so here is my review for chapters 24, 25, and 26 all squashed in one. Enjoy, Sarah a.k.a. "melin waani nin"! =) CHAPTER 24 (Thirteen pages!!!) I loved it at the beginning how you made the loving greeting between Tirin and Tindu. Secretly it was a good thing for the former to kidnap the latter, otherwise the cartographer/historian would never have left the scriptorium AT ALL, as her brother astutely tells her. Tirin's suspicion of Vardnauth at this early stage is one of the things I would credit him for--him being the astute warrior he is. I would have thought that Tindu should have suspected something, because her young pupil is all of a sudden interested in Lady Galadriel's and Lord Celeborn's powers and how they are ruling Lothlorien. This information has given Tindu quite a shock, seeing as she refuses to accept this. But, I like how you concluded that part but using Tirin's heavy treads to describe his weariness: "Oh, agreed," he whispered, and turned and left her there. His feet, normally light enough to walk across snow without marking it, left heavy imprints in the soft ground by the river. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Around this time Galadriel looks into her mirror and discovers the ambush of her daughter. I can vividly imagine how she reacted once she saw elves fighting and dying, orcs, and her own Celebrian being attacked. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tirin's sons--Tindu was right. This lucky father was blessed with three perfect sons. They are alert, and they can guess the truth of what was going on in his mind at the time. Okay, the paragraph below is completely irrelevant to the review and the chapters that follow, but I think I'll explain it anyways so that you can see why I react as I do later. The whole "irrelevant" paragraph will be marked with astericks. ***At school, it started with my friend and I about LoTR. She decided that we should each take some character that is single to be our "husband". So, being that she thinks that Orlando Bloom is hot (and well, he is), she jacked Legolas. Then she decided to pair me up with Gimli and I accepted for a while (because she and my other friends are bloody stubborn and won't accept anyone else and so keep teasing me about Gimli, despite the fact that I keep telling them that he's given his heart to Lady Galadriel), until one day I retaliated and said that I killed the dwarf with my own ax. So, after that, I claimed Haldir as mine, naturally, and I admire him for his talents and his character. Maybe after you've read this you'll understand why I behave oddly later on. =)*** Now, on with the rest of this exceedingly long review. Rúmil seems like a mature enough elf, so I don't think Haldir could have exaggerated that badly, seeing as he said "Oh, aye, Rúmil needs such looking after." Oh and being that Haldir is MINE, I won't accept the fact that he snorts. Sorry if I seem authorative or whatever the word is, but I'm not trying to get you to change your story or anything like that, so no hard feelings =). The confrontation with Varnauth from Tirin turns out to be more--for want of a better word--dramatic than I thought it would be. Such a misfortune that the Lady of the Golden Wood came at the time that she did, otherwise Tirin wouldn't have been killed and Vardnauth without the chance to have drank the water with the powers that allow Galadriel to scry in her Mirror. It was absolutely unbearable to see Vardnauth STEAL some of the water from the mirror and drink it. Serves him right for the pain. And if he had not expected this, then what DID he expect, that meddlesome heinous fool! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! You killed Tirin! Why?! WHY?! *Sobs in agony* As Imbecamiel has said, and I agree with her, I have grown to love ALL your characters in a short period of time (Yes, even Vardnauth--he's certainly evil, but there's still something that you've put into him that makes him admirable a character all the same.) You'd better not kill Haldir too. PLEASE! Now you have sundered Tirin and his wife forever... though she may be in Valinor, Tirin is dead and therefore his soul has departed to the Halls of Mandos. Orophin has found his father--and the one who had murdered him. The youngest of the three Tirinions should realize how lukcy he was to have gone by Vardnauth unscathed. However, Orophin's discovery has revealed Vardnauth's betrayal--and that is good in one way because he can alert Lord Celeborn and everyone else so that they can be on the alert. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vardnauth has got to be the most conceited elf EVER. Well, not conceited, but I hate him so badly, but I won't go so badly as to cuss. Trying to pry inside the Lady's mind which is open is her grief? He has got to be the most DARING elf in Lothlorien, more or less, I'll give him credit for that. Luckily, Galadriel finally realizes and casts him away from her, causing him to smash into a mallorn tree--all for the better, as long as he has pain, of course. He would grow stronger and more skilled, but never more would he cross paths with Galadriel. Never. At least he realizes that, but way toooooooooo late. Any sensible, not greedy person would have realized that a long time ago. SO, now I'm going to call Vardnauth stupid because he really is, no matter how ingenius he thinks his plans are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Poor Tindu! I mean, it's bad enough already that Vardnauth kills someone and attempts to pry the mind of another (well he already has), but emotionally wounding Tindu would probably portray the worst for her. With the fact of her pupil being an antagonist, which she can't accept until she's been given time, this whole fiasco happens and she's forced to accept it whether she likes it or not. Then, he mocks her about asking the wrong questions. Yeah, well, it's not like he's any better off with his stupidity and his answers. And I've noticed that he's really stuck up by boasting about him asking the right questions. These questions are the right ones--but only to him. By the way, what does Tinduválorien mean, and is it Quenya or Sindarin? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I understand of the grief and anger that Celeborn feels, and his hate against Vardnauth. The grief is for the condition of his daughter and of Tirin's death, and the anger and hate would be because of what the elf had done to his wife. When one is in times of grief (such as right now), council is really needed, and Celeborn cannot find one to confide in, but eventually he does, to Haldir--or, rather, vice versa. But the Lord of the Golden Wood reveals some of his feelings. As Haldir said, only time can help them now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CHAPTER 25 Here Tindu's story ends, but the fact that Vardnauth escaped rather than perished is probably why Arien is in the state that she is in right now, and others who have had the misfortune to meet Vardnauth at Gondor... So, you did kill Haldir, did you? But you followed Peter Jackson's account of Haldir, not the books' account! Please, take that back! Make him live whilst other authors have killed him! PLEASE! *drops to her knees and begs, with tears filling her eyes* I want Haldir whole and alive in this story. And, according to Tolkien's reckoning about the grief of the elves, they will die of grief several years after their partner has passed away. SO that means that I will die, and you'll have one less reader and reviewer! x( Good thing that Aragorn decides to offer Tindu's atlases a home in Gondor. Otherwise, all her hard work would have been for nothing, seeing as it wouldn't be needed in Valinor. Tinduválorien--I still don't know what this means. If you would be kind enough, please translate. The jest with Legolas and Gimli--haha, a pity he doesn't learn Elvish, and consider himself lucky that Aragorn was willing to translate for him. Melin waani nin! Haaaaaha, my dear goose, that is just plain hilarious. If I may repeat, is this Quenya or Sindarin? Lovely chapter. Now, on with my final review of the currently last chapter. *Sigh* I'm getting weary now. CHAPTER 26 YOU SMASHED YOUR CAR?! OMG, ARE YOU OKAY??? Anyways, what state do you live in, and what state did you smash you car in? Sorry, this is going to be a short review, nothing like the nice long one I gave in chapter 24. Scary that Erynbenn's troops (and himself, of course) fell into the Southrons' trap. What have they got against Gondor anyways? And I wonder what their plan is...backups for Gondor seriously needed... x( Here ends my review, and I'm still the first reviewer! -Lady Saruman I now send 6 tons of Ferrero Rocher chocolate from France, and some Hersheys too, of course. But no, I'm not in France. Have you tried Ferrero Rocher? It's really good--irresistable. =) See ya next time! (When you come back, of course.) -Lady Saruman
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We did in fact notice your absence! *smiles* But we know how busy you are, and we thought you would probably rejoin us when your schedule permitted. I'm glad to see that time is now! *whistles* That is devotion indeed! I can't even imagine how much paper that would take -- we are flattered beyond words! Thank you so much for all your praise on our flash-back! We had little time in which to establish quite a few characters, and we were anxious that you should enjoy it. Tirin is indeed a marvelous big brother, and besides loving his sister dearly, he is very observant. Tindu is very learned, in her own way, but unfortunately she's not very good with people; she tends to assume the best, contrary to evidence, which isn't very wise (as this story proves). Glad you hear we did your 'husband' and his brothers justice! We enjoyed writing them -- all the more because, though they are canon, Tolkien didn't flesh them out much. It gave us lots of room to play! *grins* *laughs* I'm sure Haldir would be pleased at your sticking up for him! In this case we use the word 'snorts' to refer to that sort of half-laughing noise people make -- like a quick exhale through their nose: 'Hah.' Yes, this story is full of unhappy chances. It's funny how sometimes things just seem to conspire together to turn out right, and other times they just seemed determined to turn out wrong. This is one of the latter times. You've described Vardnauth's character very handily: Bold, but stupid. It's a combination that will get him into even more trouble one day... For this particular time, though, it got him some pretty nasty powers -- scorched throat and bruised body aside. *dodges under cover* Believe us when we say: we really did not expect so many people to love Tirin so much! Like I said before, we knew we didn't have much time to introduce a lot of these characters, so we assumed nobody would have much chance to grow very attached to him. For our miscalculation, we apologize! 'Stuck-up'; another good descriptor for Vardnauth. And 'Tinduvalorien' means 'Tindu of Lorien', and it's Sindarin. Actually, all of our elvish is Sindarin because that's the only dictionary we have. It used to be an online dictionary, but the online version shut down not long after we copied it off onto our computers, so I'm afraid we can't link you to it. If you'd like to give me your e-mail address I'd be willing to send you a copy of it! *raises hands helplessly* So much of our history is movie-verse, thus Haldir's fate followed suit! But feel free to take Tolkien's version -- we shan't dispute it has the greater claim to reality! *smiles* And please don't die! I'm glad you liked our solution for Tindu's books! *hugs* Thank you so much! Laughter is the best compliment (right up there with crying)! Short reviews are perfectly okay! Yes, Erynbenn's in trouble. I'm not at all sure why the Southrons seem to loathe the Gondorians, but it may have to do with them wanting land. That, and revenge, is Mavranor's reason, in any case. *looks sheepish* Yes, I smashed my poor car, but it's fixed now and looks good as new! I smashed it in Georgia, but Hannah and I live in North Carolina. We have tried Ferrero Rocher! And yes, they are delicious! *grins* You must like us indeed! Thank you for the lengthy review, all the time you spent on it, and for being such a great reader! We really do appreciate it. *smiles*
Imbecamiel · 18 April 2006 · Chapter 25: Departing A Little Wiser
Oh yipes, I didn’t realize till just now that if I don’t review pretty quick, you’ll have updated before I get a chance… Heh, getting two editing projects at the same time can do things to your mind. Like making you forget little details like what day it is… ;-P Poor, poor Tindu! Living through all of that must have been hard enough, but retelling it to a bunch of complete strangers - however trusted - must have been terribly difficult, all the intervening years notwithstanding. Ha! Trust Gimli’s bluntness to break a somber mood… Tindu’s right - there’s definitely something to be said for “dwarvish plain speaking” :-) //"Oh, aye. He slammed a few things around, but then one of your big atlases of Arnor came off the top shelf onto his head and he sat down hard. Such accidents demand a joke, as you know, and you can't joke when you're being moody."// //"Something to the affect that it was a good thing hobbits were so small, or getting concussed by Arnor would probably hurt a lot more." //LOL! Oh, I know I’ve said it before, but I can’t believe how much more you’ve made me love these two! *huggles Rumil and Orophin* You do them SO wonderfully! He! Oh, I can just picture the inexperienced, slightly naive elf, attempting to cross-question the brigand. *giggles* Hmm, no, I don’t suppose that type would particularly welcome too many… inconvenient inquiries. *smiles happily* This looks like a good sign - even Tindu’s books get a happy ending! I can so understand her feelings, though. It would be horribly depressing, to think of your entire life’s work going to a place where most would never be interested - and those who *were* could probably as easily go straight to people who had actually lived through it themselves, if they were interested in history. And maps of places they would never visit again weren’t likely to hold many people’s interest for long, however well done they were… It would be *such* a relief to find a home for them where not only would you *know* they were going to be appreciated, but they would likely be invaluable resources to generations of people! “My dear goose”! *chokes* ROTFL! Poor Gimli… *g* It’ a wonder he’s managed to retain even a scrap of sanity yet, hanging around those two for so long… And Mavranor makes a reappearance! Hmm, Halda may not be willing to make a move yet, but it’s looking like she’s not the only one with plans… Methinks that man is going to be baaaad news for our evil lady. Just not too soon, I hope. Can’t have him spoiling *all* her fun.. *eg* Absolutely wonderful chapter, as always - and looking forward to more! -Cami P.S. Hmm… *straightens glasses and eyes Sarah suspiciously* The fact that you enjoyed my review so much wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact that I spent half of it in tears, would it? Never can tell with these authoresses… I really think they’re all out to get me… Hehe. *hugs back* I’m glad my review was able to cheer you up! The last chapter went over *very* well, at least as far as I’m concerned! Except that you killed Tirin. I still haven’t forgiven you for making me like him. *glares* And yes, you should have seen it coming. :-P P.P.S. Yes, I do love the A&E Pride and Prejudice! LOL, and that is absolutely hilarious! *giggles* Where would we be without sisters? P.P.P.S. Oh! You’re an SP fan too?! *bounces* Heh, most of the people I meet have never even heard of it. It’s so much fun to find another fan! P.P.P.P.S. Ooo, you don’t mind a… slightly damaged villain? (hehe, or, as all the furniture stores we’ve been visiting are so fond of saying, “moderately distressed” *g*) That’s good… ‘cause you know, down in Arizona, I found something that I think he’d really love. *presents Vardnauth with - i.e. “throws at him” - a lovely cholla* Well, he’s a wood elf, I figure he ought to enjoy plants… *innocent smile* P.P.P.P.P.S. LOL, no, that’s not “more than I wanted to know” - it’s exactly what I wanted to know! Nef and I co-authored one story a little while ago, and I was curious about how other people handled it :-) And late nights are absolutely the best time for talking… if only at times because you get a good laugh out of ridiculous plot ideas you’d never even think of at saner times. *g* Sharing a room is wonderful, isn’t it? People are often surprised that we’re still sharing a room - even when we could have had separate ones - but really I can’t think of anything about having separate rooms that might make up for losing that time to talk. Hehe, besides, this way you’ve got someone else to blame messes on… *g*
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Speaking of 'yipes': it wasn't until I got your review that I remembered (d'oh!) that I was supposed to be posting! Thanks for jogging my memory. *sheepish grin* I can't imagine juggling multiple editing projects -- it's all I can do to revamp my own stuff! More power to you! *laughs* If we have improved your opinion of Rumil and Orophin even the slightest, then we are pleased indeed! Once we started with them they proved to have an unexpected humorous side that was fun to write -- I'm almost not sure if we can take any credit for it. I had several very distinct pictures in my head of two young elvin siblings out to see the world, armed with enthusiasm and little tact, or experience in the world of Men. I didn't wind up using almost any of my ideas, but the one in the bar in Bree just had to be mentioned! "So when you rob people, where do you take the things you steal...?" *laughs* I'm glad you enjoyed our plan for saving Tindu's books! I get mushy over books; I love the feel of new hardcovers, and the smell of old ones, and just the thousand different ways you can package a thousand different stories and ideas... The thought of so many beautiful volumes not having a home was an unexpected quandary -- we were actually planning for her to take the books with her in our first draft! Happily for Tindu, the second draft was kinder to her library. *laughs* Poor Gimli indeed! *gives look of pure astonishment* Why of course not, Cami! I could never take pleasure in the tears of a reader! Well, I mean, not *pleasure* as SUCH, but, well... hem, I mean, no indeed! *sighs repentantly* Next time we plan to kill off a character, I promise we will attempt to make you hate him before we do the deed! Will that suit? *grin* I thought you were probably and A&E P&P fan! By the by: I borrowed that Ivanhoe you recommended from Netflix and I'm really enjoying it so far! I'm as far as De Bracy and Co. kidnapping Rowena; excitement abounds! I am indeed an SP fan! *laughs* You have echoed my own sentiments! I meet very few people who've read the book. I haven't read very many of the series (just two), but I'm a big fan of the more recent version of the movie, and I have the book read aloud on tape. The endless descriptions of Marguerite's beauty can become a little wearying the third or fourth time through, but Percy is great. "Moderately distressed"? *falls over laughing* Yes, that will do fine! We'll see if we can't top 'moderately distressed' before the fic is over. Here here! *raises glass -- or rather 'glasses' because there isn't a glass on hand* I completely agree on sharing rooms! Happily Chloe is about to join Hannah and I in our lovely little corner of the house, so we shall have three times the fun as before. *grins* Though I doubt we shall ever try triple-authoring -- that may be a bit too much! Thanks for the lovely review! Made my day, as ever. *hugs*
RS · 17 April 2006 · Chapter 25: Departing A Little Wiser
Oh boy! Trouble is lurking and brewing just around the corner for our little trio. What is that sneaky Halda up to? It seems like everyone's destination is Minis Tirith. I fear that there is going to be a big climactic scene at the end of this fic (and why not?). Suspense, suspense.
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Trouble indeed! Or what fun is there in writing these stories, let alone reading them? *grin* Halda? Halda is a mystery man, busy about his own ends, and what those may be... who can say? *sly smile* And yes, you've cornered us into giving up information. But though we are tempted to avoid major climaxes (they are deucedly difficult to write, don't you know) we find it is next to impossible in stories of this scale. Sooner or later, our plot lines catch us up, and then... well... imagine setting Gandalf's firework cart alight. *grin* Thank you for the lovely review!
Elizabeth_Elindel · 14 April 2006 · Chapter 25: Departing A Little Wiser
REALLY GOOD!!! I can't wait for more! I really liked the way you guys did Gimil's humor. It really added a light touch to the story. Have an awesome week! :D
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Thank you so much!! We appreciate you taking the time to read our story! Particular thanks on your praise for Gimli -- this is our first time writing him, and we enjoyed it immensely. *grin*
Imbecamiel · 11 April 2006 · Chapter 24: Skeletons Escape the Closet
*sniffs* This is a wonderful chapter… Explains a lot of things… But… YOU KILLLED TIRIN! Why must you do that to me? It’s not fair! You manage to create such wonderful characters that I love them in less than one chapter, AND THEN YOU KILL THEM! *sobs* I suppose telling you he’s too cool to die wouldn’t help? *sniffles* Fine then, I’ll just… Um… go on with the review, I guess. *clears throat* Ahem, yeah… Well then, in case you hadn’t gathered it already, I absolutely love Tirin. Though how you managed to make me love him before I’d reached the tenth paragraph is beyond me. *shakes head* Let me know when your first original pieces are published, will you? I’m gonna be first in line. If you don’t conspire to kill me by cliffy before then, that is. It’s just so sad, so terribly hard to see… Tindu is so sweet and straightforward herself that she just can’t imagine anyone else being less so. It reminds me a lot of a quote from one of Baroness Orczy’s ’Scarlet Pimpernel’ books: “Blakeney was one of those men who are so absolutely loyal and straight, that they simply cannot conceive treachery in a friend.” *gulps* Oh… And all of this with Vardnauth is going on at the same time as Celebrian got captured by orcs?! Talk about heaping one trouble on top of another… Just one or the other situation is a huge emotional strain, and potentially catastrophic crisis. And they get both at the same time! Oh I do love Haldir, and Tirin, and Rumil, and Orophin together! Wah, why did you have to split them up by killing him? Isn’t it sad enough knowing Haldir dies?! *tries very hard not to burst into tears* You’ve managed to make me like Rumil, Haldir, and Orophin even more than I did before! And yes, Rumil and Orophin most certainly do have a fan base! Though... I rather suspect it's not very big, considering I know... three people who are really big fans. And one of those is me. And the other is my sister. Sad, really... *g* You have done *so* well with Galadriel! LOL, she’s one of those characters that just the *thought* of trying to write is enough to intimidate me. And you haven’t even stayed within the relatively “safe” realm of her normal behavior where you’ve got the books and what’s been done before to draw on. You’ve shown her at one of the very hardest moments of her life, and made her - and her pain - very real, without compromising the regal dignity that we see in LOTR. She is so beautiful, and you've done such an incredible job showing her vulnerability at this point! And I still can't believe you killed Tirin. If you *have* to write something like this, the least you could do is not write it QUITE so well. It’s just too sad! And Orophin’s almost childlike disbelief that his father could have actually been *defeated* like that… I think I’m going to cry. Again... Oh man. That - was - stupid. It certainly says a lot about just how arrogant Vardnauth is, that he would even think of attempting to hurt Galadriel. And when he’d just barely got his power, much less really figured out what he had or how to handle it! Galadriel was so awesome, though. I just wish she could’ve killed him! *clobbers Tirin-killing Vardnauth* //"Keep it," he hissed over her sobs as she sank to the ground. Her tears fell between her ink stained fingers and spattered the floor. "Study it. Mayhap you'll fade faster than the memories."// He is just… just… *shivers* He is CREEPY! Man… Ok, he had *got* to die. *clobbers him again* Heh... *surveys limp villain* Um, you aren't going to need him for a while, are you? Hmm... I guess my lovely visit to the dentist's put me in a rather violent mood. *Vardnauth: You don't say.* Yes, actually, I do. *smacks Vardnauth again for good measure* Wow. Poor *everyone*! Haldir's line, though... //Haldir's voice was quiet. "Aye. For with all that, what I would mete out to him would be vengeance, not justice. If he stood in front of me at this moment, I would gladly cut him into pieces for the carrion birds— Thus I cannot trust myself on such a hunt."// Oh, I just love that reaction! That is just beautiful - perfect. Wonderful, wonderful chapter, as always! Very much looking forward to more! -Cami P.S. Whoops… Sorry about the double posting of my last review. Heh, I thought I’d stopped it in time to keep it from doing that, but apparently not :-P P.P.S. I’m curious… How do you and Hannah write together? When you're writing together, are there certain parts that one or the other of you tend to do? Or is it mostly just a matter of which one of you feels like doing a part at the moment? LOL, or both? Are there some parts that you both sit down and write together, or does one of you always write it out first, and then get input and adjustments? *is very nosy and curious* *g*
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*hugs Cami so hard, both of their glasses fall off* No, really, that isn't half of how pleased I was to get your review! Never mind that I really wasn't sure how well this particular chapter would go over (no Aragorn or Legolas in it, and so many new characters all at once), and never mind that I was feeling swamped and rather like I wished we were already done posting, but the fact was: it was just about the best review I've ever had. So now I'm floating six inches off the ground, and feeling relieved, and perky, and not so tired anymore. Thanks! *hugs Cami again and gives her back her glasses* Okay, firstly: our sincere apologies for Tirin's demise! This is the third time this has happened, and I suppose we should have seen it coming, but every time we create a character — knowing from the beginning that he/she is not going to live long — it pretty much guarantees that everyone will fall in love with him/her, and thus hate us when he/she perishes! Bother and confusticate it all! Still, it is a very sincere compliment that they (you) got attached so fast, and thus I cannot help but thank you for liking Tirin… even while I look uncommonly guilty… *blushes to the roots of her hair* I don't know if I have the skill to ever actually be published, but the compliment is a high one indeed! *bounces a little* Huh… I wonder if we get inspired by characters when we know we won't be able to keep them long. That could explain a lot… *grins* And I would hate to kill you by cliffy! *bestows Cami with grappling hooks and emergency rations* You might find this funny: Tindu was, as I mentioned in that one authors' note, originally based on myself. When her role was expanded, she began to look less and less like me, but a few of her personality traits are still exaggerated forms of my own, and it is a running joke between Hannah and I that I tend to gloss over peoples' faults too much. If you have ever seen the A&E version of 'Pride and Prejudice', you will understand the humor of the following: I had experienced some difficult run-ins with some people at our local theater and, anxious as I was not to cause a stir, I had been too much of a push-over. Later in our bedroom I was in the middle of rationalizing the behavior of all concerned when Hannah said briskly, "You suppose wrongly, Jane." *grins* Hannah doesn't let herself get pushed around, it is obvious to say, and she keeps an eye on me too (thankfully). Anyhow, I remember that line from Scarlet Pimpernel, and you're right! On the one hand it is a good trait — overlooking people's faults — but it wasn't wise of her to ignore Tirin's advice either, as this situation all-too-aptly showed. Hey, there are worse characters you could love! Personally, I've always liked the three brothers too — hence my alter-ego being their aunt — though I don't think I would have ever classed myself a true fan, mostly because (unfortunately) there simply wasn't much known about them. It was great fun writing them, and if that enjoyment showed through at all, then I'm glad! Oh, believe me, the thought of writing Galadriel terrified me as well! She was always so much larger than life, and a girl besides…. *rueful grin* Fortunately, Hannah and I had spent so much time concocting the details of this flashback, I was really keen to finally write out all the things we had discussed. It put me in the right mood, I suppose — at any rate, I steamed straight through and then sat back on the other end and realized, wide-eyed, that I'd just tackled a whole bunch of Lady of the Wood scenes I never thought I'd have the gumption to try. I altered very little of my first draft, so I'm pleased beyond words that it all fit her character! *looks guilty again* Like I said, I'm sorry about making so many people sad over Tirin! Naturally, we were trying for that on a certain level. We needed to make it clear what kind of a creature Vardnauth was, and this was the only way we could think to explain where he goes from here (see Chapter 25 for details). In a way we surprised ourselves by how nice Tirin turned out, and suddenly in our own eyes, his death was a lot worse than it had been. Perhaps that explains Orophin's reaction… That's an important point about Vardnauth: for all his cunning, he has a bad habit of underestimating people. Hmmm. *pensive face* That was my favorite part of Galadriel's to write! I had this exact picture in my head of what that scene looked like, and I really wanted to force it into black lines on white paper. *grins at Vardnauth-clobbering Cami* So long as he's still alive when you're done, we don't have a problem with a black eye or two. Or a bloody nose… Or bruised shins, actually. *smiles* And a final 'thank you' regarding Haldir's line! I'm going to post more tonight if it kills me! *grin* And if it does, I guess Hannah will post the rest — the beauty of there being two of us! And speaking of which: No worries, we love questions! Let's see, first of all we talk. A LOT. Before anything goes onto paper, we gab about the characters we want to include, how long we want it to be, and especially: what's the main difficulty they are overcoming, what is the motivation of the villain, and how much can we stress Aragorn and Legolas out? *innocent look* Once we've hammered down the basics of the plot, we write out a summary and rough draft a timeline. We talk more — usually late at night when we're both in our beds with the lights off. We flesh out the timeline, change things, make sure our beginning, middle, and end are reasonably solid, and there aren't any major holes in need of filling. Then we divide it up. Our timeline entries are based around events, so we'll pick and choose which events we want to write. Hannah usually writes most of the major angst and torture scenes, I usually write most of the romance and major battle scenes — but in the end we each take turns at everything. We start writing. Hannah likes to write in a linear fashion, I like to write whatever I'm in the mood for, and happily both our styles work with the timeline as our main reference. As we write, we toss around more ideas, flesh things out completely, and frequently add whole plot twists (usually the job of Hannah), or discover holes in character motivation that need fixing (usually my job). One rule is that we only *read* each other's stuff in a linear fashion, so that we can keep the flow of the story straight in our heads. Sometimes my habit of writing ahead gets me into trouble here and I have to edit what I've written to account for changes in earlier chapters (example: I've written the ending chapters for all of our stories to date, and almost every time I've written them when we had only finished writing the first six or seven chapters). We give each other feedback as we go — which is one of the best parts of the co-writing deal, because it keeps us interested and eager to write more for the sake of the other person (even if, for our own part, we'd just assume quit). We offer suggestions, we add characters, we tweak the plot in little ways to surprise each other… *evil grin* Thus the story is finished, and I get to edit it up! Ta-Da! Hmmm… Okay, that may have been more than you wanted to know! But like I said: we like to talk a lot. *grins* Thanks for a fantastic review!!
Beriathwen · 8 April 2006 · Chapter 4: Hobbit Knight, Hobbit Holdwine
I am really loving this story! Your character developement is wonderful. I haven't read very many really good fan fics yet aside from Cassia and Siobhan's stories. But yours is very well written. I absolutely love the little story about Merry's family and Pippin's mischief! Keep up the good work girls!
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Thank you so much! Cassia and Siobhan set a high mark for us, and your praise (having read both their stuff and ours) is very high indeed! *grins* Particularly glad you liked our forays with the hobbits; uncharted waters for us, but fun!
RS · 8 April 2006 · Chapter 24: Skeletons Escape the Closet
This has got to be the saddest and the most frustrating chapter I have read thus far! I did not want Tirin to die! He's only been introduced in this chapter and I've already grown to like him! And then he dies! AARRGGHH! By that monster Vardnauth! I got emotional reading this chapter--I don't know why! I am angry and Tindu for doubting her brother and now she has to live the rest of her life knowing that the last words they had with each other was an argument about the person who killed him!!! "Mayhap you'll fade faster than the memories"?? OOHHH! That vicious, cocky SOB!! Orophin is in shock at finding his dead father that he cannot do anything but stare and let Varnauth go and here I am thinking "STOP HIM!! KILL HIM!!" Poor Galadriel! I cannot fathom what she's going through! Seeing this vision and not being able to stop it. Vardnauth was getting a little too confident to think that he was able to overpower Galadriel. There was at least satisfaction for me there. I guess I'm a little bit irritated that Haldir did not let his emotions go and that he kept them in check! His ADA died! There was no time for sorrow; he took over his Ada's position and had to be in control of everything...including his emotions! My insides were all twisted reading this. I want revenge for Tirin!..and for Arwen! I'm sure the list will grow!
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*ponders what correct opening response would suit here* Erm... Sorry? Thank you? *gives in to gut response and hugs RS* Involved outrage on an OCs part is high praise indeed! *grins* Okay, so we really are sorry about Tirin! This is another one of those dreadful occasions where we created a character, knowing from the beginning what was going to happen to him, and we just sort of figured that there wouldn't be time in one chapter for people to get attached to him. Oops... And yes, Tindu made one whopper of a misjudgment there, with some really awful results. If we did nothing else with this, we removed all chance that people will retain fondness for Vardnauth (as if anyone liked him in the first place). In fact, I get the feeling that we may not even get a chance to kill off our villain -- the mob may beat us to him. Glad you enjoyed Galadriel standing up to him, at least! Talk about underestimating his opponent -- it's a problem that may cause him trouble yet. You're right, it's sad that Haldir had to put aside his feelings and go right back to work. This was sort of our explanation for why Haldir (at least in the movies) is rather a tough nut to crack -- friendly enough to people he knows, but not very relaxed around strangers. His point, though, was that taking revenge and killing Vardnauth would feel satisfying in the moment, but would put a burden on his conscience which would ultimately consume him. He couldn't trust himself to find a middle ground and capture Vardnauth without giving in and executing him. Not to worry, though! Evil beings never escape -- not really. Thanks for the review!! More on the way...
Imbecamiel · 4 April 2006 · Chapter 23: The Dwarf, the Thief, and the Cure
Oh, I’m glad that you weren’t too badly hurt! When you didn’t update, I started to get a bit worried, and I’m glad to hear it was telephone tag, and not something more serious that prevented you :-) Heh, well, that is one “advantage” that villains do have over heroes - they expect everyone else to be just as treacherous as they are, and so are rarely truly surprised by betrayal. Heroes, on the other hand, have to deal with not only the practical results, but also the emotional repercussions of having someone they trusted turn against them. It’s always so interesting to see how things that, for the villains, are quite black and white (getting too attached to people is bad, friendship is usually weakness, don’t ever let anyone know what you’re really thinking, expect everyone to be as duplicitous as you are…) can become so much more complicated for the heroes. Yes, friendship can be a “weakness”, but it provides more strength than anyone might have anticipated. Yes, not trusting anyone can be safer, but the only way to truly live is to be willing to open up and risk being hurt. So very often things that appear to be their greatest weaknesses to the villains who can’t truly understand them, actually turn out to be their greatest strength, and the only thing that can pull them through when anyone else might have failed… LOL, ok, I’m through with the lame philosophical musings now :-P Moving on… //Legolas complied with the order, raising his hands, one still holding the dagger, as he backed away. "You don't want to do this."// *has sudden picture of Barbossa/Tantur replying “Oh I really think I do.”* //"You were betraying us all along," he whispered around the blade at his throat, and it was not a question.//*has sudden picture of Jack/Tantur replying “Ya.”**breaks down giggling* Sorry, sorry! It just suddenly struck me as so funny… Y’know, there are real disadvantages to loving too many fandoms at once. *g* LOL, well, a triumphant charge on the back of a white stallion Gimli’s entrance was *not*. Still, at least it served its purpose… Poor Gimli, fated to be a living diversion :-) Poor, poor Duurben, though! He had such a terrible time dealing with the fact that he’d “failed” in his duties, and Arwen had been hurt. It must be incalculably worse now, realizing that the traitor was his own nephew, and probably could never have been put in a position to do this much harm if it hadn’t been for him! ANd then knowing that he's likely either following or actually travelling with Aragorn and Legolas, and they don't have any reason to suspect him... Poor Duurben must be positively driving himself insane! Ah, and as I’d suspected - Tantur dies of his own ignorance and refusal to believe that anyone else would be less treacherous than he is. *sighs* Yet another proof that, in the end, it’s not circumstances or upbringing or society that determines how we turn out, but our own choices. He certainly had the opportunity to turn out well, to follow is uncle’s example, and instead he chose to betray everything he’d sworn to protect. Your ideas for Celeborn and Thranduil’s tree are so wonderful! That is *such* a unique idea for an antidote. And such a dramatic proof of the depth of their friendship, as well - as if they needed another one :-) Your description when they’re “wakening” the tree… so beautiful! *whispers to self, I will not squeal like a fangirl, I will not squeal like a fangirl, I will not…* Rumil and Orophin! *squees* Ahem. *attempts her best Spock impression* I mean, it is most gratifying to see such a wide range of underappreciated and infrequently depicted minor characters from LOTR in your stories. Yeah. That’s what I meant. Hehe… I love those two! And Tindu is lovely! I must admit, I did get just a bit tense at her first appearance. But really, with you two, I should have known better! Yet again, you’ve done beautifully with a female OC - and an elf, at that! And even more than that, an elf who is related to original characters - a type that tends to get particularly risky and annoying. But I love her! *applauds* And finally we get to hear more about Vardnauth! Yes! I can’t wait! Wonderful, as always - and, also as always, very very much looking forward to more! Imbecamiel P.S. *chokes at image of big, tough, bug jar-wielding orc* LOL! “Ha! Flee, Dunedain scum!” *men and orcs both stare in bewilderment* “Well… It worked once…” *orc slinks off* Hehe…
Imbecamiel · 4 April 2006 · Chapter 23: The Dwarf, the Thief, and the Cure
Oh, I’m glad to hear that you weren’t too badly hurt! When you didn’t update, I started to get a bit worried, and I’m glad to hear it was telephone tag, and not something more serious that prevented you :-) Heh, well, that is one “advantage” that villains do have over heroes - they expect everyone else to be just as treacherous as they are, and so are rarely truly surprised by betrayal. Heroes, on the other hand, have to deal with not only the practical results, but also the emotional repercussions of having someone they trusted turn against them. It’s always so interesting to see how things that, for the villains, are quite black and white (getting too attached to people is bad, friendship is usually weakness, don’t ever let anyone know what you’re really thinking, expect everyone to be as duplicitous as you are…) can become so much more complicated for the heroes. Yes, friendship can be a “weakness”, but it provides more strength than anyone might have anticipated. Yes, not trusting anyone can be safer, but the only way to truly live is to be willing to open up and risk being hurt. So very often things that appear to be their greatest weaknesses to the villains who can’t truly understand them, actually turn out to be their greatest strength, and the only thing that can pull them through when anyone else might have failed… LOL, ok, I’m through with the lame philosophical musings now :-P Moving on… //Legolas complied with the order, raising his hands, one still holding the dagger, as he backed away. "You don't want to do this."// *has sudden picture of Barbossa/Tantur replying “Oh I really think I do.”* //"You were betraying us all along," he whispered around the blade at his throat, and it was not a question.//*has sudden picture of Jack/Tantur replying “Ya.”**breaks down giggling* Sorry, sorry! It just suddenly struck me as so funny… Y’know, there are real disadvantages to loving too many fandoms at once. *g* LOL, well, a triumphant charge on the back of a white stallion Gimli’s entrance was *not*. Still, at least it served it’s purpose… Poor Gimli, fated to be a living diversion :-) Poor, poor Duurben, though! He had such a terrible time dealing with the fact that he’d “failed” in his duties, and Arwen had been hurt. It must be incalculably worse now, realizing that the traitor was his own nephew, and probably could never have been put in a position to do this much harm if it hadn’t been for him! Ah, and as I’d suspected - Tantur dies of his own ignorance and refusal to believe that anyone else would be less treacherous than he is. *sighs* Yet another proof that, in the end, it’s not circumstances or upbringing or society that determines how we turn out, but our own choices. He certainly had the opportunity to turn out well, to follow is uncle’s example, and instead he chose to betray everything he’d sworn to protect. Your ideas for Celeborn and Thranduil’s tree are so wonderful! That is *such* a unique idea for an antidote. And such a dramatic proof of the depth of their friendship, as well - as if they needed another one :-) Your description when they’re “wakening” the tree… so beautiful! *whispers to self, I will not squeal like a fangirl, I will not squeal like a fangirl, I will not…* Rumil and Orophin! *squees* Ahem. I mean, it is most gratifying to see such a wide range of underappreciated and infrequently depicted minor characters from LOTR in your stories. Yeah. That’s what I meant. Hehe… I love those two! And Tindu is lovely! I must admit, I did get just a bit tense at her first appearance. But really, with you two, I should have known better! Yet again, you’ve done beautifully with a female OC - and an elf, at that! And even more than that, an elf who is related to original characters - a type that tends to get particularly risky and annoying. But I love her! *applauds* And finally we get to hear more about Vardnauth! Yes! I can’t wait! Wonderful, as always - and, also as always, very very much looking forward to more! Imbecamiel P.S. *chokes at image of big, tough, bug jar-wielding orc* LOL! “Ha! Flee, Dunedain scum!” *men and orcs both stare in bewilderment* “Well… It worked once…” *orc slinks off* Hehe…
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Sorry for causing worry! I didn't even think of the people I might freak out by vanishing like that… *blushes* Still, it's nice to be missed! Your philosophical musings have yet to be lame, Cami! This particular one was very insightful, I thought — that is to say: you hit the nail on the head. *grin* *splorfs* Oh dear, you have POTC-ified our confrontation! Never again will I be able to read it the same way! *giggles* It was awfully similar, though, wasn't it… Yes, poor Gimli! I don't think we realized until we'd already made him run half-way across Middle Earth that we couldn't let them get rid of Tantur too easily. It made Gimli's entrance a wee bit anticlimactic… Still, the story's not done yet, and Gimli may still have things to do! *grins* And definitely poor Duurben. We had an awful lot of people who begged us to bring Duurben back for another fic, and when we decided to put him in this one, we really didn't mean for it to be anything more than a repeat performance! Then we wound up cranking him through the wringer… I wonder if his fans are wishing they'd left him in early retirement. *laughs* A+ on your Tantur reading! Very, very true. And ultimately Duurben's rescue from guilt, if only he can be convinced of it! *presents Hannah with aplomb* Meet the creator of the tree! All that was her doing, and I completely agree with you: she did a fantastic job! Especially with the awakening. *indulges in sister gloating* Oh my! Well, we certainly didn't realize that Rumil and Orophin had a fan base! *grins* I'm glad! They certainly don't get much airing in general fandom. It's always fun taking advantage of all of Tolkien's background characters! And we're very pleased that you like Tindu! *mops forehead in relief* Seriously, we completely agree on the general risk factor when using females, especially elves, in fan fiction, and we were anxious to avoid the pitfalls! Praise for Tindu, then, is praise indeed, and we cannot thank you enough! Vardnauth's past, coming up! Though it's one of the more depressing chapters in this story, I'll warn you. *guilty look* Thanks for the wonderful review!!!
RS · 3 April 2006 · Chapter 23: The Dwarf, the Thief, and the Cure
Boy, do you know evil! Tantur is one evil dude! "Family are such useful tools, so trusting and so gullible.." Yikes! EEWW! What a horrible death! If I were in Legolas' place, I don't know if I would have put Tantur out of his misery! Whoops, did I say that? Talk about evil! "Where is the other? The friend closest to my heart?" What is this tree that it would call ARagorn "closest to my heart?" Did I miss something? The sight of the three elves "packing" to leave this "empty shell" that once was a beautiful place was really depressing. Lorien is no more! So Vardnauth was Tindu's student? What caused him to go to the--excuse me for using this term--"dark side"? Very intriguing!
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*bows* Thank you! We knew Tantur's death was going to be ugly, and we just sort of figured we'd let him suffer through it (nasty bloke that he is), but Legolas wasn't having any of it. That's why we're so fond of Aragorn and Legolas, really; they tend to be nicer than we are! *grin* Sorry if that was confusing! Most of those murmurs were supposed to be a mixture sentiments -- a wish on the tree's part (which was planted by two friends) for Legolas' companion to join him; the purposes of the original planters of the tree still woven into that place; and an echo of Legolas' own need for Aragorn at that moment. It was kind of depressing, wasn't it? But that's the fault of Tolkien. I don't think I'd have had the literary guts to send my favorite people group off to some distant paradise like that... *rueful sigh* And yes, Vardnauth's history is at hand! *grin* Oh joy, right?