For the record, I just wanted to say that I am enjoying this Legolas only POV in the story. I love all your other characters a lot, but I think you're doing really well with staying with Legolas. You've kept this interesting, and I'm looking forward to seeing the story progress.
Ah, Galelas. He is acting like a stubborn child. We'll have to see if Legolas can make their situation better for the group.
-Frodo
Author's reply
Thank you, Frodo! It's taking me a while to get used to having only one character's mind to work with, so I'm glad you're enjoying it. Galelas is a mixed bag, I think. He is like a stubborn kid when he's dealing with Legolas, but he's better the rest of the time. He and Legolas bring out the worst in one another.
esamen
· 16 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
Legolas laughed but had no time to answer before a scowling Beliond moved toward where Sinnarn’s hand still rested on the flet, and seeing his danger, Sinnarn hastily let go and slipped away.
A fun moment. So, Beliond has his own way with getting along with Sinnarn. I love Beliond. He is a really, really unusual character. Like no one else. I picture him as a guy who has a lot of non-verbal communcication going on. Lots of interior stuff, though.
Even though I'm a huge fan and have read all your stories more than once, I still appreciate you giving me the update on all the OC's and how they are doing at this point in time. I need the help :-) You have a lot to sort out for us, huh? Every time I start a new story and Galelas comes on the scene, I have to give him an appraising glance to check out his attitude at the moment. Still an unhappy camper, I see. I kind of like that because it gives the story a lot more spice.
I really, really like Legolas stories with lots of genuine canon setting. I went back over the Appendixes to check out the bit with Dale, and it was so fun to go read them again. I am always amazed at what Tolkien created, with just pen and ink and imagination. What a wonderful universe for us all to roam.
Have fun typing,
Esamen
Author's reply
I there is lots of interior stuff with Beliond and I haven't exlored it enough yet. I have an idea of doing a story from the POV of the keepers and wives and maybe Ithilden's aide, Calith. I haven't done anything with it, but it might be interesting. I'd learn more about all those people.
I've written so much now that I get confused with it all. I have to keep consulting that list on my author's page to see how long the gap is between stories and so on.
Glad you enjoyed this, Esamen.
Nilmandra
· 16 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
I enjoyed the image of Beliod about to stomp on Sinnarn's hand as he smarted off. I think for as put upon as a couple of young lords may be from their keepers, the keepers put up with much too! They must actually like it when there is more than one keeper together - gives them someone to talk to, as well.
Author's reply
I know you're a big keeper fan. Must be something toubled in your history! I suspect you're right. A keeper's job wouldn't necessarily be a lot of fun.
perelleth
· 16 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
It was my pleasure to save this chapter until I could sit down and read it with little to no interruptions...
I like the family interactions, and how most of these take place around meals, I've said the same thing over and over again. But,yes,I'm always expecting that family meal in which some thing is due to happen. And Legolas as an adult is so convincing! He's now used to his duty, he regrets leaving but is also eager to return to routine, he observes and catches up with all that is going on in his family. Eilian is fun, although he always makes me feel a bit sad, maybe it is my own middle-child syndrome coming out... Now, I bet Celuwen is another restless one and she's going to get quite involved in the settlemnt, so where are those "holidays for two?" I begin to think she's as good as Eilian at staying put indoors, so Eilian is being dragged, willingly, into her "field research! ;-)
We never see Thranduil on leave, though, and Ithilden's hour-long picnics are short relief from his duties, but above all from pressure and responsibility. I wonder if he also feels the shadow, after oh so many years being responsible for the lifes of all warriors... thanks he has Alfirin, in truth, or he would have been "burnt out" by now! (and with Tinar around, you're so cruel! ;-))
Author's reply
I'm glad you liked it. I worry a little about most of the family interaction taking place at meals. I'd like to provide a little more variety, but it's a lot of work to introduce another activity they'd all be around for, and then you can't just let it drop. The arrow making in "Good Neighbors" started out that way. I wanted Thranduil and his sons all together for some activity, but then it grew into a plot element.
To my surprise, I've discovered that I enjoy writing about capable adult Legolas. He's attractive, I find. But I'm a little worried about Eilian and Celuwen. I've been thinking about what they would do when Sauron is defeated, and one thought that occurred to me is that they might go to live in a settlement, but I'm not sure Eilian will be able to manage that. This is a little trial run. Of course, this settlement might not be a good match, and they wouldn't want to live near her father, but another place might be ok.
The only story in which I've shown Thranduil leaving home is "Tide of Times." He goes to a White Council meeting in Imladris there. I think I neglect him a little, actually. :-)
Mirkwoodmaiden
· 16 March 2005
· Chapter 1: Time at Home
Daw!
I love reading your stories and so happy that you've started another one! You've created such a wonderfully realised world for Legolas to live in. The storylines are always so intricately woven with details and relationships that develop further story after. I'm curious as to where this one will go, but I know it will be a joy to read.
MM
Author's reply
Thank you for these encouraging words! I've been writing these stories so obsessively for quite a while now and their world is getting kind of complicated, which can be hard on readers.
And will we see Estel back in Imladris or with the Dunedain soon?
sofia
· 15 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
Another good chapter. Nithron is one of those characters that you created that have me curious. I'd love to know more about him.
-sofia
Author's reply
I haven't really thought much about Nithron, mostly because I have my plate full of OCs now. I might not have time in this story to do much with him. Maybe someday. I'm glad you liked the chapter.
Jay of Lasgalen
· 15 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
I love the interactions between Legolas and his family, Thranduil is always great, and I do love Eilain. He's always so surprised when his father praises him!
I hope we get to see more of Anyr. He's so hopelessly airheaded he's funny - but not to have to deal with! I like Galelas, too, even if Legolas doesn't - after all, how can he be any better considering his awful family? :( It's sad, though, to see both Galelas and Nithron in this story. :(
Jay
Author's reply
Eilian is indeed surprised when his father praises him. He expects to be criticized and sometimes reads criticism into Thranduil's comments even when that's not Thranduil means.
I'm planning to follow Legolas through this story rather than cut away to others, so I have some challenges on how to show some of this other stuff. I tried to think about how novelists do this and I'm wondering if maybe a good letter from Eilian might be just the ticket.
I feel bad about Galelas and Nithron too.
Alice
· 15 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
I really like how Sinnarn turned out. He's so relaxed compared to his father and uncles. It's nice. And shame on Legolas for babying his replacement as the family baby. He should know better.
I enjoyed the breakfast scene. Celuwen's awesome by the way. That was nice how she defused the impending Eilian/Thranduil arguement. She's a natural diplomat. Also, " She fears he will go naked if she does not clothe him." Sure laugh now Ithilden, but there are probably reasons for her fearing that. That was a nice tie in with last chapter's comment about Ithilden neglecting to eat. Which I can see him doing actually. There was just some all around nice characterization going around on the breakfast table.
There were some nice little bits of characterization here. Like Beliond our favorite elvish loner sitting some distance away from the rest of the group with Nithron. I feel bad for Nithron. Sinnarn must have been such a shock after Ithilden.
Yay, Galelas! I think Legolas and Galelas need to hash out their issues. They honestly bring out the worst in each other. It'll be good for them.
So, excellent chapter, if a little slow. But it was good setting up the scene and the characters. I look forward to the next chapter. And yes, I had an excellent time in London, I'd never been before. My family wanted to take one last big family vacation before I head off to college so we decided to do something big this year. It was a lot of fun for my history and literature dork self.
Author's reply
Sinnarn is indeed much more relaxed than his father and uncles. I think that's partly because there's that generation there to buffer him from immediate responsibility. And also I think Ithilden learned from watching his father as a parent. There were things he wanted to imitate and things that he didn't. And then, Alfirin must have had some influence too.
You know you're absolutely right about Ithilden. He might very well not take time to eat if Alfirin didn't see to it. Now Sinnarn going naked is another story. His fellow warriors might object!
They honestly bring out the worst in each other. Oh yeah. That's it exactly! They don't even see the good qualities in one another that others see in them because when they're around one another, those good qualities tend to fade.
I'm glad you had a good time in London. As a fellow geek, I'm jealous.
Brazgirl
· 15 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
A little glimpse of Eilian and Thranduil here! That was enough to satisfy me. Evne more because Beliond is here...
I like where this is going. Legolas' POV is very interesting, especially his relation with Sinnarn. And Thranduil... I love when he defends Sinnarn! I bet Eilian doesn't like that protection too much.
Seems to be that Legolas-Galelas quarrels are up. Hum. That will be good to read!
Author's reply
My beta loves Beliond and makes me put him in everything. :-)
I'm in San Francisco on business this week and I wrote on the plane today on the way out here, mostly about Galelas, but I'm interested in Sinnarn too. He lives up to his duty and his family still seems to think of him as screw off. That has to be hard.
White Wolf
· 15 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
I like Thranuil's faith in Celuwen. Her's and Eilians' life in the settlement should prove very interesting.
Beliond is so cheeky. When he asked Legolas, "Do you need me to put you to bed?", I thought of his own typical response: "Watch your moith." I love the way their relationship has developed over the years.
Author's reply
I trying to decide if Eilian can ever live in a settlement. I suspect that this particular settlement is going to be a poor fit, but I'll bet that Celuwen would like to live in one some day and you'd think that Eilian's wood-elf side would like it too. But what would he do for excitement? He seems to crave that adrenalin rush. Maybe he can take up white water rafting or something.
In Beliond's mind, he gets to be cheeky but Legolas does not!
thechevin
· 15 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
I so enjoyed this chapter I seem to thrive on all the little bits that make your story telling so fulfilling. The undercurrents between Eilian and Thranduil, the way Celuwyn 'handles' the king and her husband.
The new age elf in that settlement will never know what hit him and Eilian will be so proud of his wife.
Also the love Ithilden and Alfirin have for each other and their son
and Thranduil has for all his family
Just a few words and Legolas positively glows under his Adar's approval.
As I say it is the descriptive bits and peices that makes this so good to read, the fact that Legolas waits for permission before sitting down to eat,Beliond's reaction to Alasse!
The friction you can almost taste between Legolas,Sinnarn and Galelas
can't wait to read more
thanks
Judy
Author's reply
I'm glad you like those "little bits" because I was worried that that chapter was boring. I had to get Legolas out of the house and on patrol and I had to introduce some pieces of information and some characters. I kind of like just watching this family interact so I'm glad you do too, Judy.
Dot
· 15 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
Oh yeah, I’d get completely lost at times if not for that chronological list of stories! Although, a list of who’s in which patrol at what time along with the name of the captain would be very handy too…;-)
Well, that week flew! I’m glad Legolas is feeling more rested and relaxed. Time off will do that. I’m indebted to St. Patrick for giving us a day off this Thursday. Yay, Sinnarn is indeed in that patrol! I’m so fond of him. The little discussion about him was rather interesting. Ithilden seems determined that posting Legolas there will be good for his son too. The fact that Legolas isn’t that much older than Sinnarn must make it a little strange that there’s no thought at all of making Sinnarn an officer or of sending him south for experience. Even in another couple of hundred years he’s still seen as a young warrior. Of course, trust Thranduil to stand up for him! He obviously doesn’t feel that he needs to tiptoe around Sinnarn’s parents in the way he had to when Sinnarn was an impressionable child and difficult teenager! I love the thought of Alfirin sending tunics to her son. She’s such a mother. I wonder if Legolas ever had packages of clothing arrive from home? Although, I recall Thranduil being quite good about sending his sons things like warm gloves.
There’s an awful lot of bobbing up and down every time a female enters! I’m laughing at the thought of Eilian and Celuwen on top of the world since Thranduil agreed to their little trip. I figured he’d feel the need to remind Eilian how to behave, although an hour seems quite a long time for them to be ‘chatting’. At least Eilian doesn’t seem at all put out by the fact that his father is glad to be rid of him for a while!
Anyr??? Yep, “exceedingly vague” just about sums him up. I suppose he wasn’t that bad, though. Just not a great leader and a little too trusting of people. And completely lost in nature. His settlement would be very attractive to elves looking to spend some time in peace. Now Eilian is another story. I’m starting to feel a little sorry actually for Anyr and his people when Eilian lands in their midst for a few months! Especially if it’s with the intention of persuading them to “make changes”… Ah well, if Eilian gets restless there at least there are probably plenty of people who don’t know that they shouldn’t wager with him ;-)
That was a tense moment between Thranduil and Eilian. I get the impression that Thranduil had merely intended to make it clear that he trusted Celuwen and inadvertently offended Eilian by suggesting that he let his wife do the work. And Thranduil is trying to impress upon Eilian the importance of diplomacy?! Thank heavens for Celuwen’s interruption. I was interested in Legolas’ thoughts about that. I’d always just presumed that she was purposely trying to keep the peace between them but I really like the idea that she senses Eilian’s emotions and tries to ease any hurt he might be feeling. Anyway, it was great to see them all laughing and enjoying the remainder of the meal. It must be uncomfortable for Legolas to hear Eilian defend Galelas like that when Galelas has made life difficult for Legolas on so many occasions. I imagine Eilian can’t help but react when he sees something as an injustice.
I always like the good-bye scenes. And, of course, they wouldn’t be complete without Beliond commenting on Legolas’ latest horse! I particularly liked the line “You look as if you had enough time at home to lift your spirits at any rate.” He must have been concerned about Legolas there for a while. It’s wonderful to see their easy relationship now too.
I know Elorfin pops up now and then but I don’t recall if we’ve ever seen him up close like this. He seems very likeable anyway as well as fond of Eilian and respectful of Legolas. Nithron is another person that I don’t feel I know very well. Not that I should get too attached to him :-( At least Beliond seems to have a pal in him. Galelas doesn’t appear to have softened much towards Legolas. They didn’t even greet each other! Can you imagine if Galelas and Legolas had to share a flet?? Even Beliond in the earlier, crankier days would be preferable. So Galelas isn’t particularly friendly with Sinnarn either? That’s interesting. I had to laugh when Legolas innocently asked if Sinnarn was paired with a more experienced warrior. I admit, though, that I was also a little startled to realise that Sinnarn is one of those who would be training others.
LOL at Beliond dropping onto the flet and surprising them. He’ll be smiling to himself all night now. “Legolas, has it ever occurred to you that we members of the king’s household are much put upon by those who are supposed to guard us?” Surely that thought never crossed Legolas’ mind?! It’s nice to know that Nithron does his job just as well as Beliond and Maltanaur, though…
So you’re gone for a week? Oh well, at least you didn’t cliff-hanger us. Legolas is content and all is right with the world. For now.
I know it’s work but still, have a good trip. :-)
Author's reply
Yay, the hotel has an internet connection! And I just got here and my conference doesn't start until tomorrow, so I have some time to catch up.
I'm having some trouble picturing relative elven ages, I think. I suspect that they don't all mature at the same rate, that the king's sons had responsibility early, and that the degree to which one has a wood-elf temperament affects how one acts even as a "mature" adult. I think Sinnarn, like Eilian, is pretty wood-elfy (and mixed with the blood of Oropher, who was not know for prudence or patience that has to be a heady mix).
I had trouble writing about Legolas standing when his sisters-in-law entered the room. It felt silly to keep writing that he stood, but I think he would. I think all of Thranduil's sons would be raised to stand when a woman enters the room, so I had to try to work it in.
I'm worried about Eilian at the settlement. Actually, I'm worried about what he's going to do when Sauron is defeated. Has he been ruined for living happily in the woods? Maybe it's just that settlement that's a bad match for him. Or maybe he just needs challenges that engage him so he doesn't get restless. And you nailed Thranduil's intent when he said that Celuwen could do the diplomacy. Eilian had just said he wasn't good at it, so what's he getting huffy about? He just expects his father to criticize him and reads that into Thranduil's comment.
I wrote about Galelas on the plane today so there'll be more about him in the next chapter.
As always, thank you for this very nice review, Dot.
Manderly
· 15 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
Another wonderful chapter and as usual, I find myself wishing for more as I reached the end of it.
That was a nice scene in the family's dining room, a bit of everything from everybody present and everybody stayed true to his/her character. Thranduil's relief to see Eilian leave to spend time at another settlement reminds me of a stressed out mother at the end of the summer holidays, counting the minutes to the first day of school. And once again, Celuwen proves her worth to the family by smoothing things over between father and son. I think Thranduil is coming to realize how much of an asset she is, not only as advisor to him, but also in her role as his daughter in law.
Legolas and Galelas - are we to see a continuation of the tension that existed between them when they were novices together? I am now more sympathetic to Galelas knowing what he has to put up with at home and hope that he and Legolas come to some form of quiet tolerance for each other.
It's nice to see Beliond the grouch back and the obvious comfortable relationship that he and Legolas now shares. "Do you need me to put you to bed?" I can just imagine how Legolas would have responded to that question a few stories back.
Author's reply
I laughed at your comparison of Thranduil and a mother at the end of summer vacation. I'm sure you're right about the king's appreciation for Celuwen. Not only does she smooth things over, but she also kind of interrupts the pattern that Thranduil and Eilian had established where they expect things to go wrong and they do, so maybe there won't need to be as much smoothing over in the future.
I think you can count on some time between Legolas and Galelas. I too feel really sorry for Galelas. But he's a pain in the butt for Legolas.
Legolas and Beliond have come a long way. I think Beliond has more respect for Legolas and Legolas is not so automatically resentful.
Glad you liked it, Manderly.
Bodkin
· 15 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
We have an entry for understatement of the year! “You would be difficult too if Tinár were your brother.” Offers open for words or phrases to replace 'difficult' - I think I might go for 'in Valinor'. That or 'psychotic'.
Have you ever worked out how old Ithilden was when he became an officer? Because Eilian was 100 or so (I think. Can't be bothered to find out more precisely.) Legolas was 280 ish - but Sinnarn is still an oily rag (and one capable of getting in BIG trouble) in his 400s. So becoming an officer is not necessarily tied in with being a royal - although, of course, it helps!
It's a shame we won't see Eilian dealing with Anyr. It could be seriously entertaining to watch him turn into Ithilden or his Adar. Especially the moment when he hears himself giving Thranduil's speech on responsibility.
It's sweet seeing Alfirin fuss over mother-stuff, like new tunics for her boy. Though I am pleased to see her getting out of the Stronghold every now and then for a picnic. She does seem rather stuck in the nurturing role. I wonder if she ever resent Celuwen's position in the family - and her ability to swan off and do what she wants? A few weeks in the woods with Ithilden might be good for Alfirin, too - but she's unlikely to get them. Nurturers tend to get rather taken for granted, and Alfirin is so good at palacekeeping that nobody really notices her skills.
Legolas really is coming over as an adult son here. He is so self-controlled and sensible. Still, I suppose after 240 odd years as a warrior, he has just about got used to the routine by now. His maturity in the way he deals with Beliond, too. Last story, he would have thrown a hissy fit at Beliond treating him like a baby - but now, it's almost part of a joke between them.
And you have to do a Lorellin story (please) - by the way Celuwen gets away with manipulating Thranduil, he must have been putty in her hands. I just love the thought of seeing him helplessly going along with whatever she charms him into doing. I expect Alfirin can manage him, too, but I suspect she is a lot more subtle and focuses on household things. Except when it comes to Sinnarn, of course.
Good stuff.
Author's reply
That's a good observation about how the royals became officers at different ages. I think the older two were promoted young partly because the realm needed them. Ithilden was the oldest and Thranduil needed someone to direct his troops, and Eilian became a warrior soon after the Watchful Peace ended, so the number of warriors was smaller at that time (in my head, of course). But within a few years, elves had responded to the returning danger and joined the fight to guard their homes so Legolas and then Sinnarn were able to wait. And in Sinnarn's case, the wait will be mighty long! Thank goodness for the deathlessness of elves or they'd all be really worried because in looking at Sinnarn, they'd be looking at a future king.
LOL about how horrified Eilian would be when his father's words came out of his mouth. Maybe he can leave things to Celuwen and go off and enjoy himself in the woods introducing the innocent youths of the settlement to racing and gambling!
I'm reading your comments about Alfirin and thinking that I'm having trouble seeing her as an individual right now so perhaps I too am taking her for granted. But I also think that she's happy in what she's doing. She feels useful. She runs a huge household, the equivalent of a small business. But I suppose those picnic breaks are necessary. :-)
On my list of stories to do is one shortly before Lorellin dies. Legolas would be little, which might fun.
The Karenator
· 14 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
I'm really looking forward to seeing Legolas and Galelas in the same patrol after their previous history. Now that they're adults, the relationship--good or bad--should have a new twist on it. I've wondered since first meeting Galelas how he and Legolas would relate to one another when they grew up. Sometimes rotten kids grow up to be great adults. (Sometimes not.) Considering that Eilian sees something good in Galelas, I have hope. Eilian has such a good sense about people, I trust him that underneath all the prickly behavior that Galelas has exhibited over the years that there's somebody good in there.
So Eilian and Celuwen are moving to Anyr's settlement. I love this. Eilian will go nuts with this guy in charge. Let's stop to think about the guy he's used to being in charge and compare them for a moment. I think Eilian's standards might be a tad different than Anyr's. Of course, Eilian could always decide that he likes NOT having anyone in charge.
And Beliond is around to tuck Legolas in. I was glad to see Nithron. Two more keepers together. YAY!
I looking forward to seeing where this will go. Lead on, your minstrelship.
Good chapter.
Karen
Author's reply
There's a lot of possiblities here. I'll have to see if I can work them out with just Legolas's POV to work with. I don't know how you manage to work with just first person all the time, Karen. It would make me crazy.
I feel sorry for Galelas, and I think there are possibilities there too. He's never going to be easy to get along with, I think, but I'd like Legolas to at least see Galelas's good qualities.
I'm off for San Francisco in about an hour. I'm hoping the hotel has internet hookups and I have time to use them.
Karri
· 14 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
A lovely, light chapter, daw. You have done a marvelous jog of making the ordinary, every day sort of stuff entertaining. :-)
Author's reply
Thank you, Karri. This is the kind of stuff we were talking about that is most hard to write, I think. I beat my head on my keyboard trying to think about what Legolas and his new captain might talk about, for instance.
elliska
· 14 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
You know, I re-read Spring Awakenings just a few hours ago! Is that wierd or what?! :)
I think this will be very interesting to follow Legolas all through the story. I was thinking about that when I read your review reply and my initial thought was, oh that will be easier for her. It took about one minute of thinking about it to realize that was certainly not the case. Part of the reason I like your stories is because you always share with us the little challenges you set yourself and we can all learn from them as you do. I've learned a lot, I think, by looking at your writing here. I bet your classes are great.
Anyway, on to the chap: I was amazed how much you packed into that opening dialogue. It was great. All the fun references to Spring Awakening (tied for my favorite story of yours along with A Question of Duty--depends on what day you ask me which I like best at the time). And all the nuances of everyone's relations--especially Celuwen's ability to difuse situations between Thranduil and Eilian and Thranduil's deference to her. Thranduil needed a daughter!
I just went back to think about which lines from that dialogue were my favorites that I might want to call attention to and I realized I had highlighted about all of them. Great dialogue!
And so we are going to see Legolas commanding Sinnarn and Galelas. I think I would have refused that duty. Poor Legolas. And he has already put Galelas off by displacing him. That whole dynamic, along with helping new warriors along ought to be very interesting.
And once again I will say, I just love Beliond--from his approval of Legolas's new horse to his sneaking up on them in the talan to his offers to put everyone to bed. He is a great nana for Legolas. I love how you use him in these stories.
I am certain I am going to love this story already.
Author's reply
You really know how to make a fellow writer feel good, Elliska! I'm already tearing my hair out about having to limit myself to Legolas. I'm suddenly thinking about things I've seen in other writer's work and realizing what they're doing. I was thinking about how JK Rowling always follows Harry. So how does she get around the need to know what other people are doing and feeling? That's what a huge amount of the magic is for -- extendable ears, bowls of thoughts that you can read, etc. Once I thought of that, I could see it everywhere.
Another thing I've been working on is showing, not telling and that's why there's so much dialogue at breakfast. I was trying to get them to reveal themselves without getting into their heads. I'm glad you think it worked.
I'm hoping the Galelas/Sinnarn/new warriors stuff is interesting. I need to start the next chapter with that. I'm flying to San Francisco for a conference early tomorrow and won't be back until Saturday, so I don't know how much time I'll have to write other than on the plane.
My beta loves Beliond. She makes me put in everywhere. :-)
LOTRFaith
· 14 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
Horray!! A new story! :-D lol... I must say.. I do not know how in the world you can write in between stories! I would go insane trying to remember what I wrote in the previous story and making sure it also fit within the next story.. I can barely write my own story as it is let alone figure out any of the stuff you have to :-) But I must say.. You do an excellent job!
I too have wondered why Eilian easily took Galelas under his wing when Galelas quite obviously doesn't like Legolas. Perhaps he is jealous of Legolas? That Legolas has a loving older brother and Galelas does not? And that Legolas gets at much attention at home as his brothers? Hmm.. Now there's a thought... And unless you clear that up;-) I will continue to think as such :-D With your permission of course ;-)
Winces... Boy.. Thranduil can really go straight for the heart can't he... Sometimes I wonder if he really even knows how he can so easily slip past Eilian's defenses and strike at his vulnerable spots...
But anyway.. excellent chapter! And I look forward to seeing what trouble Legolas can get himself into ;-)
Author's reply
I confess I have to read my other stories to remember who's where and when. I made this list of stories on my author page and it's been the most useful thing! It has the stories in order and lists Legolas's age. I consult that all the time.
I think Eilian is one of those people who can't resist trying to help someone in pain, and he sees that Galelas is in pain and that's why he acts like he does. That's harder for Legolas to see because he and Galelas are the same age, and Eilian has never been Galelas target like Legolas has.
That's an interesting observation about how Thranduil can always hurt Eilian even without meaning to. Eilian is much more vulnerable that he'd like to admit.
Thanks for the review, Faith.
French Pony
· 14 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
All the class clowns together in two lumps, eh? Eilian, Celuwen and Anyr all sharing a settlement, that oughta be fun. I suspect that no one is more surprised at seeing Eilian in a position as The Responsible One than Eilian himself. But it's probably a sobering learning experience for him, suddenly having to be responsible. Thranduil can yell at him all he wants, but at home, Ithilden is always there. Eilian is one of those guys who have to learn to be responsible by doing it.
And the Northern Border Patrol. Elorfin must be having kittens at the thought of having the King's baby boy and the King's darling grandson both under his command at once. I mean, yes, he gets to have Beliond and Nithron in the patrol, but the stress must be overwhelming at times. Add Galelas into the mix, and you've got The Three Stooges, The B Cast. Galelas and Sinnarn ought to be an interesting mix, given Galelas' feelings toward the royal offspring and Sinnarn's tendency to cozy up to misfits.
It looks like Thranduil has decided that the lesson that worked with Eilian will also work with Legolas, teaching him responsibility by setting him to watch over someone else. In Legolas's case, it kind of works -- he learned a lot by adopting Amdir, though it didn't seem to do Amdir much good. But he's always been the sort to indulge Sinnarn, probably because they are so close in age, and Sinnarn, being younger, is someone he can indulge. My sister was like that when our little cousin was born. She wasn't the baby of the family any more.
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Eilian does well as captain because he won't risk other people like he risks himself. But as a captain, he pretty much can issue orders and watch them get carried out. Anyr is not going to respond well to that. He'd be maddening, actually.
I did wonder if it was realistic to have Legolas and Sinnarn in the same patrol, but decided it had to happen sometimes. Family members did serve together (Thranduil and Oropher, Eomer and Theoden, etc). But it still must make Elorfin nervous. At least the patrol is a safe one -- usually.
If I were Sinnarn, I'd be ticked off that everyone still thinks he's a kid. I think he's pretty shrewd too. But he's not always the most responsible person around. Sometimes things slip his mind -- 13 dwarves, for instance.
meckinock
· 14 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
Well, that was a tense breakfast. Something makes me think Thranduil was only too happy to get Eilian out of his hair while they were still on speaking terms. I can't really imagine Eilian getting along with the hippies too well, though, especially if Celuwen starts wearing flowers in her hair and playing a ukelele.
Beliond hasn't changed. Still as carefree and lighthearted as ever.
Legolas's arrival at the camp was nicely edgy. Geez, first impressions. How are they going to react to him? He can't be too soft or too stern. Wow, they're young. It's amazing when they start to look young. And Legolas cracked me up, calling Sinnarn an inexperienced warrior. He's what, 350 to Legolas's 390? Hoot! Just throw Galelas in for a monkey wrench and we've got warrior stew. He's an interesting puzzle. Legolas's speculation about why Eilian is the only Thranduilion that Galelas tolerates was interesting.
Oh, and I loved the little scene with Beliond dropping in on Legolas and Sinnarn, and then almost pushing Sinnarn off the flet. Entertaining, and a nice reminder that these are Elves. And it was good to see Legolas enjoying being out in the woods.
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Eilian and Anyr is a happy thought, isn't it? LOL. Almost makes me wish I hadn't decided to follow Legolas around in this story. Maybe Thranduil is amused by the thought. He does seem relieved to have shipped his son off where at least he won't have to see what's going on and Celuwen will keep things from getting too out of hand.
I had to keep reminding myself that there were about 200 years worth of warriors who were younger than Legolas now. Some of them, like Sinnarn, are also experience (although Uncle Legolas has trouble remembering that), but there must be quite a few who will indeed look young to Legolas. (In that category, the one that bothered me was when my doctor started looking really young!)
Tapetum Lucidum
· 14 March 2005
· Chapter 2: Leaving for the Woods
It is nice to see the family take the time to breakfast together, especially when one of them is departing. I can see myself in Alfirin - worrying about my kid and having all of the household things done at the same time. Parents are much better at multi-tasking than nonparents. Thranduil's spoiling of his grandson is also a constant source of amusement. I love Bill Cosby's routine about grandparents being old and trying to get into heaven. I guess is doesn't really apply if you are immortal. Anyr's settlement? It was a big mess. Maybe he can look out for a curly haired elleth that wears a green ribbon. Maybe she will visit again. I hope she isn't betrothed. Hmm... Legolas, Eilian, Celuwen, Sinnarn, Galelas, Belion and Nithron all in the same part of the woods. Nice set up! Celuwen is an excellent peacemaker for Eilian and Thranduil. You always set her up to succeed - nice job!
"I have probably been made difficult enough having you and Ithilden as my brothers." - LOL! It is good to see Legolas get in a few barbs. Eilian usually wins their sparring matches. Beliond would judge a horse by its obedience but I also think he would be the first to admit there is some value in initiative as well. You made him far to well rounded for that comment to be true.
I think I remember Eilian letting Legolas pass out the mail when he first arrived at camp. It is a good way to win friends. Elorfin sounds like an excellent captain. I think the two leaders will get along well. I hope Galelas does not stir up too much trouble - a little will be fun. Legolas' lack of self-confidence when it came to Galelas' attitude was very realistic. It was probably a relief to find out that he dislikes Sinnarn as much as he dislikes Legolas. The board is set, the pieces are moving... Looking forward to the rest of the tale!
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People who don't run a household don't know how many details you have to keep track of. And I figure the king's household is like a small business. So it's a good thing that Alfirin is capable and can multi-task, as you say, because she has her work cut out for her.
Legolas is light-hearted enough to joke again. A week off would do that for me too!
My beta is a big Beliond fan, for reasons I cannot fathom. Oddly enough Beliond seems to have many fangirls, a fact that would horrify him.
I was thinking about Legolas's reaction to Galelas. I think it's a shock to all of us to realize someone dislikes us, even when it's someone that we dislike. And in Legolas's case, Eilian is a puzzling fact here. He likes Galelas!
Thanks for the review, Tapetum.
Rose Sared
· 14 March 2005
· Chapter 1: Time at Home
I really love the way you consistently manage to capture the bittersweet nature of elven life. Sadness and joy, immortality and sudden death, odd mixtures. No sorrow without the perfect comprehension that time will ease it, no joy without the knowledge of its inevitable end. Constant in an endless sea of change, no wonder elves sail eventually for the west.
I hope Leggy tastes at least a little romance, tough to be the odd one out when the whole fam-damily is, or has been, happily partnered.
Lovely to have another story from you - do hope you might get to my neck of the world one day soon, you would, indeed, be most welcome.
Rose
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My husband was just asking me yesterday where I'd still like to go and I said New Zealand, so maybe we'll make it one day.
I was caught by your comments here. That word "bittersweet" does seem to characterize much of what it must have been like to be an immortal in ME, with all the perspective on impermanence that deathlessness would give you.
Legolas is feeling a little left out just now. I was thinking about LACE, in which Tolkien seems to say that marriage is the natural state for an elf. That suggests that one who isn't bonded might feel a certain emptiness.
Thank you for letting me know you're reading, Rose Sared.
Tapetum Lucidum
· 13 March 2005
· Chapter 1: Time at Home
Sometimes it is hard to make the jump from one story to the next. It usually takes me a little while to figure out where I am in your Legolas timeline. He went from rookie to lieutenant and it is a hard adjustment to make. Starting a story with a Tinar scene is always a good way to get back in the swing of things. He is always good for a laugh. Ithilden handled his youngest sibling well. It was best to clear the air over the death of a warrior before moving on to new assignments. I hope Legolas never learns to take death lightly. He shouldn't. I am glad his attitude towards this new posting is a good one. It sounds like their Nana was very wise. The picnic sounds like a good way to relieve stress!
Ha! Ha! I am surprised we haven't seen a lot of matchmaking in the past! I can't really blame Beliniel - she must have a lot of friends ask about the most eligible bachelor in the realm. I am sure she was pleasant enough but I am glad he is holding out for true love.
Legolas is a popular guy when he is on leave. The trip to the stables was very pleasant. The horse sounds like a pleasure - Go Thranduil! It was good to see Legolas act so maturely and take his new assignment and horse in stride. The training issue was handled cleverly.
The lilac and trellis screen sounds like a dangerous place. Eilian and Celuwen would be mortified if they knew their "discussion" had been heard. Celuwen is not making an unreasonable request but I can also understand Eilian's guilt over taking some time off. You have set up quite a quandry. It is nice to see Legolas stop and smell the roses. Great start!
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It's hard for me to adjust too, TL! On my author page, I put together a list of my stories in chronological order with Legolas's age on there too, and I actually have to consult it sometimes. Legolas is 290 here, and we last saw him picking locks a little over 200 years ago. Legolas is a grown-up here, and that's one of the things I was trying to show, the other being his loneliness as he sees the happy pairs around him. In LACE, Tolkien says that marriage is the natural state for elves, so I think an elf who isn't bonded might be aware of something missing.
I thought Ithilden handles Legolas well too. He treated him patiently and showed confidence in his ability, even as he listened to what bothered him. The last time I wrote about capable!adult!Legolas it took me a while to get into the swing of things, but then I found him quite attractive. :-)
White Wolf
· 13 March 2005
· Chapter 1: Time at Home
Legolas seems a little weary to me. I guess that comes from being in the Southern Patrol, plus he's older in this story and has seem a lot more.
I admire Calith's self-control. I would have brained Tinár long before now, if I had to work with him. The phrase 'long-suffering' comes to mind.
I'm glad to see Annael back. He's a great character, and I've missed him. I'm sure Legolas has, too.
Author's reply
He is a little weary, I think. And I think your reasoning about why is correct. He's young to be weary, but supposedly elves did get that way after a while. He'll be fine once he's had a chance to recover.
I think I might have to write something about Calith one of these days. He's funny. And I too love Annael. I love his whole family and am still feeling guilty about killing his father.
Thank you for the review, White Wolf.
perelleth
· 13 March 2005
· Chapter 1: Time at Home
Legolas seems to be discovering the lingering melancholy of being adult...It's a strange beginning. I like it very much, but it suddenly makes such a contrast from the delighted Legolas we left behind at the end of your last story...it is striking. Legolas is older now, and he seems even more by contrast. Now life seems almost a weigh of routines, instead of the world full of treasures and surprises that it used to be for Legolas the elfling. I love how you manage to draw the weigh of shadow upon him, in the way he seems to be only passing through things that in other circumstances are source of great enjoyment for him. Sure in a couple of days the shadow will disappear, but it's an interesting way of introducing this older Legolas, and the way he sees himself through what he has and has not... poor one, he's needing some romance in his life!
I'm intrigued by Eilian. I cannot see him simply "taking a holiday" away with his wife. And it seems he still has some issues to sort through regarding his father. In a sense he's being slower in reaching maturity than Legolas... let's hope Celuwen helps him...
I think this is the first time I hear Thranduil being a bit "reluctant" about his duties!"... and think of me listening to what are likely to be some very tedious petitions.” LOL! He's human, err, mean, elven!!!! ;-)
I'm thrilled you're back!
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You cannot possible be more thrilled to have me back than I am to be back, Perelleth. I miss writing no end when I don't have time to do it.
I jump around in time so much that going from one story to another can be jarring. This Legolas is over 200 years older than the one at the end of "Time's Turnings." He seen a lot more and spent time in the shadows near Dol Guldur. He's strong and will recover, but in the meantime, he's a little vulnerable and lonely. I like writing about competent!Legolas too though. He's kind of sexy. :-)
I think that Eilian is slow to mature (as is Ithilden's son, Sinnarn). Perhaps that's part of their wood elf heritage, or perhaps it's what elves would be like if they weren't battling for the survival of ME. I don't know. I'm making it up as I go along!