Farawyn · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Wonderful! I wish there was more.
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I'm glad you liked it, Farawyn. That's all for this story, but there are always others. :-)
Time's Turnings by daw the minstrel
Farawyn · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Wonderful! I wish there was more.
Author's reply
I'm glad you liked it, Farawyn. That's all for this story, but there are always others. :-)
Brazgirl · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Another story comes to an end... I love the way you ended the conversation bewteen Ithilden and Sinnarn. Also loved Thranduil taking some time before speaking without interfering in his son's dealing with Sinnarn... and, of course, Legolas and Beliond. It was so nice to see Beliond's affection and respect for Legolas! I could read some respect there!!! Also suprising to read him talk - even just a bit - about his son. Great job, Daw!!!
Author's reply
I'm glad you liked the Sinnarn/Ithilden interaction. I hadn't written much about Ithilden as a father before and I was interested in it. And I learned a lot about Beliond in writing this too. I really felt his sorrow for his son. So thanks for all the reviews, Brazgirl. I'll be back with another story eventually. Hope to see you then.
Alice · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Wow. This chapter had so many touching moments. That last scene with Beliond, just wow. Poor Beliond. He needs a hug. Though I doubt he thinks so. That's ok. We know better. So, excellent scene with Sinnarn and Ithilden. You portrayed Ithilden's anxiety and emotions very well. He's such a good parent. Alfirin too. They should have more elflings. Come on, you know Sinnarn would be so into corrupting a little brother or sister. Also nice scene with Thranduil. I couldn't help but grin when I got to the line about Thranduil hoping that men were not going to become part of the people Legolas felt obligated to protect. You've done a very nice job with developing Legolas's protective to a fault personality. It's constant throughout your stories. Oh, I also liked Thranduil asking about when his grandson is coming back to his table. I get suck a kick out of how Thranduil talks to people. He always picks the best words for getting what he wants. Alfirin wasn't fooled though. She knows her rights. Poor Galelas. He needs a hug too. Darn it, Daw, you just had to kill him off later didn't you? After making us get all attached to him too. Okay, having read other reviewers' comments, maybe it's just me that's all attached. Well the scene was really nice. Like that sentence about the lonely bird, beautiful. Also, the exchange between Gewiel, Tinar's Nana, and Tinar was hilarious. Oy, they all so deserve each other. Except Galelas. They don't deserve him. So, the scene with Beliond, very, very nice. It wrapped up the story very nicely. Beliond rocked my socks throughout this story. I mean with the juggling knives, the lock picking ( excellent reward by the way), and him actually opening up for once (because no matter what the old grouch thinks, talking will help), he was just fabulous. His character got some very nice development out of this story, which I enjoyed greatly. He's one of my favorite of your OCs, though perhaps not one I would want to deal with in person. This has been a very enjoyable story. Very nice suspense, great character development, and the theme tied it all together very nicely. I greatly look forward to your next story, so please write fast.
Author's reply
You and Bodkin are both agitating for more elflings for Alfirin and Ithilden! I'm holding my head here moaning about an overload of OCs. I'll never again get a new reader! And Eilian and Celuwen need a baby. Moaaaan. Thranduil is nicely possessive about his grandchild, which is lucky for Sinnarn. Thranduil loves him and that must help him sometimes. I have to admit I felt really bad about Galelas as I was writing that scene. The lonely bird, yes. Singing it's heart out and only Eilian notices. I comfort myself by thinking that he would be treated as a hero in the Halls of Mandos. He'd like that. I got to know Beliond a lot better while I was writing this story, and it's helped me to see how he and Legolas would deal with one another too. It can't be an easy relationship. I'm glad you liked it, Alice. I have to work a little for a bit and then I'll think of another story although I don't know just what yet.
Ms. Whatsit · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Thranduil sighed. In his more rational moments, he knew that Legolas was well on his way to becoming a strong adult, but he still worried that his youngest son was too inclined to take on the battles of others and thus place himself in unnecessary danger. He hoped Legolas was not about to add Men to the list of those he felt obligated to protect. LOL. Ah, yes, that list. I wonder how Thranduil will feel about that list post-LOTR, when Gimli and Aragorn and the hobbits are on it. “I have decided that you have earned the right to learn to open a lock without a key,” he said. Legolas blinked. “You mean pick it?” Beliond frowned. “That is a low term, but yes, that is what I mean.” Heh. That is so Beliond. "I do not pick locks. I merely open them without keys." Rather like "he ran into my knife." That Beliond-Legolas conversation at the end was fantastic and moving. And so was the part with Galelas and Eilian. Poor guy. I'm glad Ithilden's giving his son options. A warrior who resents his duty can't be a good warrior.
Author's reply
Legolas has been gearing up to be Legolas of the Fellowship for pretty much all his life, and his father is just going to have to accept that the son he loves is like that. :-) I really got to know Beliond better while writing this story. I wrote backstory for him and thought about where he had been and how he felt about his son. And I feel really bad for Galelas. He needs to be appreciated. At least his life as a warrior gave him some satisfaction. And he'll be honored as a hero in the Halls of Mandos.
Jay of Lasgalen · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Oh, I forgot - three cheers for Tinar's wife about the mending! Serves him right! Jay
Author's reply
True. She's not very pleasant, but then if I were married to Tinar and living with his family, I wouldn't be very pleasant either.
Jay of Lasgalen · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Beliond's thoughts about his son were very sad - but what nearly made me cry was thinking about how much I still miss my father, who died six years ago. Odd. This was a nice finale to the story, Daw - Beliond has finally realised that Legolas needs to be able to cope on his own without constant advice, and Ithilden has realised that his brother should be transferred to gain greater experience. But the best image was Legolas digging latrines! An unpleasant task, but vital for the well being of a patrol. And even the king's son has to do it. Ithilden was very good with Sinnarn again - so he is to be a forester in his gap year? That seems very appropriate for Thranduil's grandson! Jay
Author's reply
It's odd how these moments of loss seize us. After my father died, I burst into tears one day in the grocery store when the muzak played a song that had been played at his memorial service. Thranduil's sons are good at doing their duty without complaint. Remember how you said that the twins and Legolas wouldn't complain about having to wash dishes and things because they'd been out all night? I think this is like that. Legolas would never deny his obligation as the king's son, but he doesn't take advantage of it either. Yeah, a forester is a good thing for the wood elf king's family to have. And Emmelin (Annael's daughter, who Sinnarn eventually winds up with) is a forester, so it seems appropriate.
sofia · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Another wonderful story completed. I love how Beliond and Legolas tease each other most of the time. -sofia
Author's reply
Glad you liked it, Sofia. Beliond is not what you'd call a sentimental type, so he's never going to say "I love you like a son." But he and Legolas manage to understand one another a bit anyway.
Bodkin · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
The contrast with Galelas's bunch of losers makes the family Thranduil seem even better. They make mistakes - but they are mistakes made through love and with the intention of helping each other, whereas Tinar! and Gewiel!! and his mother !!! and father !!!! I'm really not sure which is the worst. I think Tinar is a victim of appalling parenting just as much as Turgon ever was. Poor Galelas. I hope he doesn't spend long in Mandos's Halls, and then finds himself a REALLY nice, kind, generous, strong-willed elleth to look after him and make up for his hideous parents. (And that his parents and Tinar decide to stay in Lasgalen indefinitely.) Ithilden is being soooo careful not to put a foot wrong with Sinnarn - it's so easy to blow that kind of meeting, but he did well. 'Parent-induced world weariness' is such a wonderful phrase. Recognised by all parents of teens and older. Though it will be a long time before Sinnarn realises that he doesn't know everything. The image of Lorellin kicking Thranduil under the table to get him to keep his mouth shut is absolutely delicious. Such a perfect method of king-control. I long to hear more about the pair of them! And Thranduil releasing the controlled information that it was Lorellin who wouldn't give in to Ithilden's desire to become a novice early. I just love seeing his long-held beliefs turned upside down. It's great seeing an approved-of-Eilian feel able to tease Ithilden and Thranduil. He is so rarely in that position! They're all at the point of noticing that Legolas is grown up, yet they all still tend to baby him - even Beliond! And they are forcing themselves to give him a bit more freedom, even to teaching him to pick locks. He is very self-effacing, though - I suspect Eilian forced the pace a bit more, but then he would. I think he should keep trying to coax more information about Lalorn, though. And not just because I want to know about it. And OF COURSE Thranduil will know that Beliond trained his son in house-breaking skills. Who else could have done it? And Thranduil's concern that Legolas is about to take Men under his protective wing - I think he's done that before. More than once. Great story. Don't leave it too long. You'll start hyperventilating from withdrawal.
Author's reply
In some ways, Galelas has been saved as a person by the fact that his parents favored his brother. Tinar was ruined completely. One of my reviewers once said that being Tinar was both his crime and his punishment and I thought that really rang true. Ithilden is a wonderful father, although he makes mistakes too. I'm thinking of him trying to deal with Sinnarn after the dwarves escaped. But Sinnarn knows in his bones that he's loved. That's one reason he can be so obnoxious! I wish I had more chances to write about Lorellin. JastaElf suggested I write a story set just before her death. That would have baby Legolas and his nana too. And Eilian is basking in his father's approval. Not that he ever curbs his impulses much to get it. He only notices afterwards that there's going to be trouble. I've been trying to build up Legolas of the Fellowship here and he does come to the aid of men so you're seeing that. And that thing about hyperventilating? It's only too sadly true.
White Wolf · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Another fine layer added to the tapestry of your version of Legolas's life and family. I like the way Ithilden handled Sinnarn. I also like it when you write about Lorellin. I hate that Legolas didn't get the chance to grow up with her. There would have been a special bond between them, I think. I'm happy Beliond decided to teacht Legolas how to pick a lock. Nice scene, though a little sad because of the memory of Beliond‘s son. Do you know what age Legolas will be in your next story?
Author's reply
I enjoyed the chance to write about Lorellin. I hardly ever get to do that. I wish I could write from her POV but since I'm writing from other people's memories, I can't. Sigh. The thought of Beliond's son makes me sad. Of course he wishes someone had been there to protect Lalorn. I assume he'd have died himself if he could do it to protect his child. That's one reason he's so tenacious with Legolas. I don't know what I'm going to write next yet. I have a bunch of ideas. I'll have to see what I feel like when I get through with some stuff at work and have time to write again.
Alison H · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
"Do not talk like a halfwit"----I laughed out loud when I read that line! Beliond sure doesn't mince his words.I really enjoyed the ending to this most enjoyable story, especially Beliond teaching Legolas to pick locks and then speaking so wistfully of his son.I just wanted to hug him.You certainly have tremendous depth in your characters, Daw. Ithilden & Alfirin have their hands full with Sinnarn but he is a good kid at heart.He knows that he has the love of his entire family to help him through his formative years.He'll be all right. Once again you finish a wonderful story only yo leave your fans wanting more! Take some time and relax---but hurry with your next story.I'm addicted!! Ali.
Author's reply
Beliond is the last person to ever mince words! He and Thranduil must have gotten along well. Neither one of them would hold back at all. I've gotten to know Beliond a lot better as I wrote this story. I wrote backstory for him to use in it and it just made him more real for me. And Sinnarn is a good kid. Except for that little problem with the dwarves, oh and the one with the dragon, he's done pretty well so far in my stories and Annael's daughter loves him. That's pretty idyllic, I think. He'll get to be part of Annael's family now and I love them. Thank you, Ali. I need to work for a while so I can keep getting paid to support my fanfic hobby, but then I'll be back.
Rose Sared · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Thank you daw, another most enjoyable story and a nice gap filler for family and other relationships. I am so impressed by your consistency of style and plot - one day I hope to get back to my own writing and you are a great role model. (awww shucks) Rose
Author's reply
Thank you, Rose. I was thinking about you just the other day, wondering if you were still writing. Also wondering if we'd ever get to NZ. I still want to do that. One of these days maybe.
Brenda G. · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Ahhhh! That is the sound of satisfaction coming from one of your many fans. I applaud the perfect ending to all the aspects of this story and to each character's part in it. Well, the lump in my throat from the chapter before this one has turned into full-blown tears at this chapter's end. The exchange between Legolas and Beliond about Lalorn was wrenching at first, but you handed us a hanky and a smile through those tears to conclude this chapter, always a great way to finish just about anything worthwhile. I'm happy that humans and elves all come with the same kind of hearts - those that contract and expand with same experiences. Mortal and Immortal do not differ in the inward parts that much. I was sad for Galelas and his obvious discomfort within his own family, but happy for Sinnarn to see his discomfort dispelled. It was nice to see Ithilden off balance from his own father's confession about holding him becoming a novice, and then it was Thranduil's turn to totter a bit when Ithilden announced his decision to transfer Leglas to the Northern Border Patrol. You are full of surprises, Daw, but that just makes your stories more delightful. Another great tale from our resident master storyteller. Well done!
Author's reply
Thank you, Brenda. I find endings hard to write so I'm glad you liked this one. When I started this story, I did a little more thinking about Beliond and what he'd been doing before he became Legolas's guard and also what his son was like. And then when I wanted something for Legolas to practice picking locks on, I thought of this box (there isn't much in a camp!). Poor Beliond. I'm glad I could comfort him and me both with thoughts of Valinor. I also feel bad for Galelas. Geez. All he wants is a little recognition from his family and they're too busy being idiots. He's a better person because his parents dote on his brother instead of him, but it still must be painful. And Thranduil and his various offspring all seem to be doing well for now. Thank goodness. They should enjoy it while it lasts.
French Pony · 21 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Okay, we've mastered key locks. Next up, deadbolts and combinations. Legolas is going to be quite the holy terror on his next leave, running around leaving all the locks open on everything. Ithilden and Alfirin may have to pack Sinnarn off on his gap year early so that he doesn't pick up questionable skills from his favorite uncle. And Eilian will be so jealous! It occurs to me that there aren't a whole lot of skills that Legolas can teach Eilian, so that would be some nice brother bonding time right there. And for extra good measure, it's the sort of thing that will have Thranduil just tearing out his long blond hair. Speaking of Thranduil, it looks like the second phase of Operation Beliond is working. The old crab is starting to open up a little and rejoin the Elvish race. This looks to be the very beginning of that wonderful relationship where Legolas looks after Beliond's heart as much as Beliond looks after Legolas's tuchus. Alfirin has a lot to learn about marketing. You don't go to the king and mention that the spit broke and dropped the meat into the fire. You invent a term like "char-broiled" and charge an extra $1.50 for the privilege. All that discussion about the wisdom of keeping kids back a year reminded me of something my mother said. We had asked her which she preferred, the 1960s or the 1990s. She said that she liked the 1990s because there was less rigidity in the social program of growing up. If you felt a kid needed it, you could keep them back a year or let them have a gap year, or noodle around with how you distributed four years of college. There's even grade schools now that have an extra year between kindergarten and first grade -- my cousins go to one of them. Sounds like the Elves are right about to hit that point in their notions of what constitutes acceptable child-rearing. Oh, what I wouldn't give to see the look on Thranduil's face when Lorellin kicked him under the table! He seems pretty well in control of things now, though. The kids are doing well and are able to take care of themselves, the grandkid is under control, the daughter-in-law is smoothly integrated into the family, there have been no elopements or suspicious runnings off to join the Fellowship. This must be a good time to be Thranduil Oropherion.
Author's reply
You're right. Teaching Eilian to pick locks would be very entertaining for everyone concerned. It has to happen; it's just a question of when. Beliond is coming around a little. Thranduil was very clever about that. Beliond's loss makes him double careful about Legolas, but he needs to care for someone else again. And I figure he's forming attachments even to other warriors in the patrol without realizing it. Of course, he probably also finds it irritating to be around other people all the time and Legolas may bear the brunt of that sometimes. Alfirin probably runs a tight ship and she's going to want to know why that spit wasn't maintained. But these things happen. My sister's over once broke on Thanksgiving Day, but the broiler element still worked so she kind of broiled the turkey. It was very bizarre and everyone is lucky not to get food poisoning. Kids are unpredictable and need to be allowed to grow on their own. It's one of the problems in teaching and it gets compounded as they go along. They need to learn at their own pace and that will be different with different things and certainly different from other people's paces. My kid went to a wonderful grade school that allowed quite a bit of individualized learning. I've always been grateful for it. Thranduil is having a pretty good time just now. He should enjoy it.
Frodo3791 · 20 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
A perfect ending. Did you have that planned or did it just kind of come out that way? It worked amazingly either way. You made me actually pause after Beliond remarked, “Is that so bad? I wish someone had been around to protect my son.” in response to Legolas wanting to be more independent. I had never thought about that before, and it really gave some more pain to the character of Beliond and showed the fortunate side Legolas and all of the Thrandulians get for being who they are, despite how annoying their keepers may be. It was really a powerful line. I enjoyed the story, and can't wait for another one. I hope you have a nice break between stories, though, because you deserve it. -Frodo
Author's reply
You mean that thing about the growing? I confess I just thought of using it yesterday. Fortunately, I'd set it up ahead of time but that was pure luck! Poor Beliond. His wish that his son had had a bodyguard is so sad. I'm glad that he (and I) can take comfort in thinking of his son in Valinor. I need to work a little but then I look forward to writing again. I woke up this morning and wailed to my husband, "I have no story to write!" So I'll work fast!
meckinock · 20 February 2005 · Chapter 11: Doing Well
LOL. Come on, admit it. You said a bad word when I posted chapter 12 before your reviewed this one. :-) You're an android, aren't you? When they come to your house to get your computers, the truth will come out. I think the prostitute story is one of those what will never grow stale -- at least in Eilian's eyes. And they all do need to see that Legolas is good at what he does, but I think that's hard for family sometimes. My mother is still wondering when I'm going to get a real job. My mother wonders the same thing. :)
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LOL. It's the sudafed.
meckinock · 20 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
So Sinnarn is pioneering the ME version of Gap Year. An elegant solution. It was fun to finally hear The Rest of The Story about Ithilden's attempted deception of Lomilad. Grandpa Thranduil is so funny - after the way he treats Eilian it's amusing to see him meekly take a backseat to Ithilden and Alfirin's discipline of Sinnarn. It's nice to see Eilian standing by Galelas. Poor guy. It's a messed up family, but it's the only family he's got. But the best part was Beliond teaching Legolas to pick locks. And how interesting that the only lock available for practice was the one holding his son's memorabilia. Brilliant. What a touching peek into Beliond's personal conflicts. It sounds like he's ready to give Legoalas a little leash now, which is probably healthy for both of them. Although not too much, or Thranduil would kill him, LOL! This story has been so enjoyable; I am really sorry to see it end.
Author's reply
Grandpa Thranduil is funny. I think Alfirin must have put her foot down pretty firmly. But Eilian is about 600 years younger than Ithilden so he's still fair game. I was actually brought up short trying to think of what Beliond could use to teach Legolas to pick locks but then I thought of this keepsake box and it worked from a number of angles. I'm glad you liked it, Meckinock.
meckinock · 20 February 2005 · Chapter 11: Doing Well
Legolas better hurry up and get some dirt on Eilian or he's going to get mighty sick of that prostitute story. And Eilian - good thinking. Never lie about something Ada's going to find out anyway. It's certainly no surprise to Thranduil that Beliond is good at "finding" things! It was nice to see Thranduil proud of his second son for once. And it's good that everyone is finally coming to terms with Legolas's job description (as well as the realization that he might actually be GOOD at it!). Lorellin's conversation with Ithilden was very poignant.
Author's reply
LOL. Come on, admit it. You said a bad word when I posted chapter 12 before your reviewed this one. :-) I think the prostitute story is one of those what will never grow stale -- at least in Eilian's eyes. And they all do need to see that Legolas is good at what he does, but I think that's hard for family sometimes. My mother is still wondering when I'm going to get a real job.
Nilmandra · 20 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
This was a big step for Legolas and Beliond, I think - they have a better understanding of each other, why the other thinks and acts the way he does at times. I really do like Beliond, the grouchy old nana. I can't wait for Tinar to be under Eilian's command. I think someone needs to rip all of his leggings so he is forced to learn to mend them!
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I'm sorry. The thought of Tinar with all his leggings ripped leads me to cover my eyes in horror. The guy eventually winds up with Ithilden breathing down his neck on a daily basis and that's the only thing that even half contains him. Yeah, Legolas and Beliond are figuring one another (and themselves) out. Thank you for all your help with this.
elliska · 20 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Oh hooray. Obviously I knew you were working on this given your question in the forum but I never expected to be so lucky as to see a chapter tonight. Poor Ithilden. This made me remember a similar incident between my father and I and I remember clearly how hurt he seemed that I did not respond to him as openly as I once did. I really felt for Ithilden here. But he handled that conversation well. Too right that when pushed, teenagers will revolt just because! Loved this line: He hoped Legolas was not about to add Men to the list of those he felt obligated to protect. That is so perfect. Indeed, he vividly remembered her kicking him under the table the first time Eilian had said he was going out after his coming-of-age ceremony. And I would have paid money to see this acted out. Too funny. The entire conversation ending here: Eilian laughed. “I suppose one needs some basic goals, and that one sounds pretty rock bottom. I will be on my way now, with your permission, Adar.” Thranduil nodded, and Eilian was gone. was great. I am very glad that I do not have any intentially 'provocative' sons like Eilian! I am so glad you told us (and Ithilden) what Lómilad said. That was great! And Ithilden's manipulation of that conversation to Legolas was very clever! I burst out laughing at Gewiel's reaction to Tinar's 'gift' for her entertainment. Good for her! How did Eilian contain himself hearing that! I really enjoyed the part with Beliond and the lock picking lesson. Legolas must have been pretty shocked to hear Beliond say he had been looking for excitement while criticizing him for the same thing. You did a good job with the lesson. Very believable. And the suggestion he should practice on leave was great! Yeah, I can see that happening. And Thranduil having a stroke!. But I loved the peek at the keepsakes in the box. And the conversation about Lalorn and Beliond backing off a bit. That was particularly well done. Very moving. I really like Beliond. The first two stories of yours that I read were Spring Awakenings and A Question of Duty and I loved him in those. And in this. Really well done. Hate to see it end. But thankfully, that only means you'll start another. :) See how good I am--I didn't even ask you for a hint of what's coming next. Hmm. Oh well, guess I did. Thanks for the entertainment Daw.
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I'm sad this is done. I'm always sad when a story is done. I don't know why I hurry to finish them. I am a sick, compulsive person! And I will write another story soon, but I promised myself to write some scholarly junk I have to do for work first. I'll finish fast so I can write about elves again! Anyway, I too felt sorry for Ithilden. He loves this kid and handles him carefully and Sinnarn is just surly. We know he turns out well, which he should, given his parents and grandfather, but in the meantime, he's difficult -- just because. My son was never as provocative as Eilian is, but then he's not a wood elf. Actually, he's a type you would recognize. He's a computer engineer and spent years doing stuff that left me terrified that the FBI would come to my house and take all the computers away. I've had a number of Beliond fans surface lately, which seems odd to me! He's such a grouch. Granted, he's an affectionate grouch, but, man, would he ever be hard to live with. I feel sorry for Legolas!
Manderly · 20 February 2005 · Chapter 12: Families
Another wonderful story, Daw! There was much to smile about in this chapter, but there was also quite a bit of underlying sadness. I suppose it's all to do with letting go for everybody here, or at least how much to let go. Hindsight is always 20-20, but at the time when the decision is made, it's almost like groping in the dark so I do feel for everybody here, especially Ithilden. So Gewiel does not live just to mend Tinar's leggings. I wonder how she keeps her sanity in that household, with Tinar as a husband and Tinar's mother breathing down her neck. I don't supposed she's considered building herself a separate flet or cottage as Eilian has suggested to Galelas. Poor Galelas. Gewiel chose to marry Tinar but Galelas didn't have much choice in being stuck in such a family. I am glad Eilian has taken him under his wings. So Beliond is sharing his talent of picking locks with Legolas? Thranduil will find out anyway, but will he approve? Really like that bantering between Legolas and Beliond. I think they've come to a new turn in their relationship which will make life much easier for both of them. Thank you for this wonderful story. I just hope you have another one in the planning.
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Thank you, Manderly. I feel sorry for Ithilden too, treating his sullen child so carefully. Sinnarn really is still a child and you can see it in his self-centeredness. But fortunately he grows out of it. :-) Gewiel is pretty bad tempered but if I were married to Tinar I think I'd be nasty too. One of my secret vices is watching this TV show called "The Amazing Race." Pairs of people who already know one another race around the world in a sleep deprived and very stressful situation with a camera on them all the time. If someone filmed my husband and me like that, they'd get some very unpleasant footage I'm sure. Sigh. I think Legolas and Beliond are working things out. They seem a little easier in the story that's chronologically next, "Fire and Shadow," although I don't think Beliond ever lets up completely. He can't really. I'm glad you liked it. I've promised myself I won't start another story until I finish something I have to write for work. I don't know how long that will take. The possibility of starting another story should spur me along.
Nilmandra · 20 February 2005 · Chapter 11: Doing Well
I like how Thranduil knew exactly how Beliond 'found' that letter :) I rather suspect that Thranduil might sit down with Maltanaur and Beliond and drink to oldtimes, and we would learn of many things that they know about each other. Tinar is a jerk, btw. And I nicely imagined that unwritten scene in my mind!
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I'm guessing that the keepers could tell great tales about the king if they were indiscreet enough. Of course, Thranduil knows they're not, or he'd never have handing his sons into their care. You just keep imagining that scene.
Tapetum Lucidum · 19 February 2005 · Chapter 11: Doing Well
Your little interlude at the warrior's camp was great! Having Legolas so eager to spend just a little more time with his brother was sweet. His restraint about not interrupting his captain also showed his new maturity. Praise from Eilian is very heartwarming. It was clear how much the youngest looked up to his older sibling. The relationship between Maltanaur and Beliond is really developing. I enjoy their little conversations. I would think Thranduil was quite the mischief maker when he was young. Throwing Tinar into the scene was like icing on the cake. He always makes me laugh. I feel so bad for his poor wife. She must have a very dull life if darning his leggings makes her happy. Poor Eilian and Maltanaur - it must have been a long trip back to the palace. Eilian used good judgement in relaying his trip to Thranduil He told the truth and left out just a few incriminating details. He did a good job walking that line. It was much better to clear the air before he went south. No one would want the wrath of Thranduil hovering over their head for 3 months. I think the iron merchant is going to have a very hard day. Ithilden's little flashback to his Naneth was sweet. She did a great job using "Mommy Guilt" to see the error of his ways. It is a lot more effective and painful than yelling and screaming. I am looking forward to seeing how Ithilden deals with Sinnarn!
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Legolas is coming along. I think he's on the verge of full adulthood. Now if he can only persuade the people who love him to let him make a few mistakes and get a little more experience, he'll be well on his way to becoming Legolas of the Fellowship. Tinar is another story. Sometimes I almost feel sorry for him, he's so clueless and he has to be himself, which is both his crime and his punishment, I guess. Eilian reasoned it through and made the right decision about telling Thranduil almost everything. The prostitute is still his own little secret to be taken out and used to torment his brother whenever necessary. I so seldom get to write about Lorellin that I really enjoyed this chance. Thanks, TL.
Alice · 19 February 2005 · Chapter 11: Doing Well
Yay, a scene with Lorellin! I really do like her. I love how she leaves Ithilden with a nice thought about him being her favorite harpist. I feel really sad now for Legolas that he had to grow up without her. Stupid orcs. I am however anxious to know what plan Ithilden and Alfirin are planning on presenting to Sinnarn. Especially since we all know he winds up being a warrior. So we're back with the patrol are we? I really like the scenes of daily life of the patrols. It's fun watching the warriors interact. I like the comradery of it all. Though I personally think that if you threw Tinar into any situation, camradery would arise just from being united against his general presence, as happens with many annoying people. His wife enjoys his mending indeed. Nice to see how well he knows her. Not. I'm begining to wonder if perhaps he took a blow to the head during his formulative years and lost some brain cells. It's beginning to be the only explanation that makes sense. And I don't know whether it's a good thing or a bad thing that I know people who are like him that make you wonder that. Good for your writing skills I guess, bad for the world at large that must put up with them. Eilian is never going to let the whore thing drop. Legolas is going to come back from the quest and Eilian's going to ask him, " So find any pretty scarlet ladies in Minas Tirith?" Oh siblings, such unending sources of joy and irritation. Oh! And perhaps my favorite moment of this story: mentioning Thranduil's juggling of the knives. Even our favorite stormy king was young once. As were the two keepers who were young friends with him. I'm curious about their youth. And Oropher. Perhaps you would like to enlighten us more about the seven knives and other such incidents? Pretty, pretty please? Oh and I thoroughly enjoyed Eilian's thought processes on telling Thranduil what exactly went on. I liked the style in which it was written. Eilian's POV was distinct in that scene. I liked it. So, good chapter. I look forward to the next. Which isn't surprising really as my first thought after finishing your latest chapter is, "Great, now I have to wait another 2-5 days for her to come out with the next one." Keep up the good work.
Author's reply
Unbelievable as it seems to me, I almost didn't do a scene with Lorellin. It only occurred to me about two chapters ago that I had this opportunity to write about her and I was wasting it! So she turned up here, thank Eru. Tinar is really scary. I actually modeled him on someone I know too. I feel sorry for his fellow patrol members. He must be a constant irritant when he's around. LOL about Eilian's greeting to Legolas when he gets back from the Quest. You're probably right. He and Legolas both enjoyed hearing about their father juggling too many knives just as much as you did. Eilian hasn't brought that up yet. He's saving it for a rainy day when he wants to needle his father. I'm glad you liked reading about Eilian's reasoning on what to tell Thranduil. I enjoyed writing it. The sole purpose of those couple of paragraphs is to show Eilian's thought process because it's so Eilian-ish. I tend to rush things (as my beta always tells me) and I consciously decided to leave that section in because of what it showed about his character, even though it wasn't necessary for the plot. I'm working on the next chapter which is the last one in this story, but I have only two pages done. It won't be very long though. I just have a few things to wrap up.
Jay of Lasgalen · 19 February 2005 · Chapter 11: Doing Well
I love the closeness you show between Eilain and Legolas in this chapter - the way Eilian teases his brother, and the way they laugh together about Thranduil and Tinar. And oh, Tinar - saving all his mending so dutifully to take home to his little wife! That was a wonderful scene, made all the better by Eilian's aside. I like the entertainment value of Beliond teaching Tinar how to do his own mending! I found the pride and pleasure Eilian and Legolas found in simple 'well dones' from those they really cared about - Thranduil, Beliond, Eilian himself - very touching. They, of course, are the ones whose opinions really matter.
Author's reply
I really enjoyed writing the scene between the two brothers and their keepers. These four have an interesting set of relationships, brother to brother, keeper to keeper, and each keeper to his charge. I wonder how the brothers relate to the other one's keeper? Surely Legolas wonders what Maltanaur has seen? Tinar is a gift to an author! He's so totally clueless.
Ms. Whatsit · 19 February 2005 · Chapter 11: Doing Well
Heh. "Yes, Adar, Beliond 'found' a letter. Really. It was just lying around." Thranduil seems to have had a sense of humor about the whole thing. Legolas is never going to live down the prostitute incident, is he? And now Ithilden's going to talk to Sinnarn. Dun-dun-dun!
Author's reply
Thranduil probably knows exactly what Beliond is like. It's interesting to think what influence Beliond might have had on Legolas in the long run. Legolas will never be grouchy or a loner like Beliond, but he might be willing to be a bit of a maverick like Beliond is. Going off with the Fellowship took a certain amount of willingness to think outside the box!