daw the minstrel
· 10 August 2005
· Chapter 9: Nine Lives
I love Elrin here. I like this age--vulnerable and full of possibilities. He's entering a world that's full of good things but kind of scary, especially when you're not sure what you're doing. It's a good thing he has all these people who love him.
Author's reply
So much of those growing-up years is about losing all the certainty of childhood and moving away from your all-powerful protectors. It must be particularly hard on the kids of the great and famous. The presence of his decidedly non-famous and perfectly content maternal grandparents will probably be a boost to his confidence.
(But he will have to learn to see through girls who are more interested in his family than they are in him!)
lwarren
· 17 June 2005
· Chapter 8: Liquidate
You know, I think I love "Elflings" almost as much as I love your "Reflections", Bodkin...or maybe that story about Celeborn and Galadriel cavorting in the woods...or Arwen's story...or Earendil's Tale (but that one's finished *sniff*). Well, heck, they're all so good...
A plaintive Elladan is not to be borne, either. You tell him he can come and play in my pool any time he wants - they all can...(hey, I don't have a pool...don't worry, tell them I'll get one LOL)!
This little addition to the elflings' saga was a nice mix of humor and just out and out fear! I was still laughing about the guys being banished and eating liver, and Elerrina's ada being a slow learner when I reached the place where Elrin and Galenthil go missing. The description of that cave and the ledge and Elrin's injuries was great - I was scrolling down yelling for E2L to hurry up!
I'm so glad they got the youngsters out alright and we also had another look at Aewlin's gift. That pool becomes scarier by the minute - you really made it creepy as it filled up during the storm! *shivers* However, Nimloth needs to work on her bedside manner! I had to laugh when she slapped Elrin's hand and told him not to touch his head! Also loved Elrhir and the others wanting to wait for Miriwen's expertise in dealing with head wounds! Smart guys! Lovely, scary chapter (and not to worry, Bodkin, you didn't need a Watcher to make this creepy!) LOL
linda
Author's reply
One of the fun things about Elflings is that I can write about almost anything I want without being tied to a timeline! And the elflings are my own, so they don't have any history other than what I give them.
(I'll pass on the invitation to come and play. Elladan says he rather likes a jacuzzi, if you're thinking of getting one! And Legolas just goes dreamy-eyed at the thought of moonlight and honeysuckle. And Elerrina.)
The situation could have been nasty - it's a good thing they got them out when they did - and I think they should bear in mind Sam's advice about always having some rope with them. It's clearly needed among this lot!
Aewlin is too young for her talent to be very well directed as yet. And the whole 'seeing' thing seems to be about possibilities - most of which probably don't happen. They will all probably pay a bit more attention in the future - until nothing happens and then they'll ignore it again. Nimloth doesn't strike me as the kind of kid to bother with bedside manner - perhaps she should specialise in surgery.
I'm glad it was scary! It never feels that way when I'm writing - it takes so long to write each bit that I'm yawning by the time it gets to the end of the paragraph. If only it was possible to write at the pace you can read!
I hope the absence of the killer squirrels is freeing you to write!
The Karenator
· 17 June 2005
· Chapter 8: Liquidate
What an exciting chapter. When the guys set out to find something that the elleths wouldn't want to do, they certainly did find it! I sure wouldn't want to be deposited on the slim shelf of a dry waterfall, Eru knows how far down, into an underground cave. Then I tend to be somewhat claustrophobic to start with. Of course, my own peculiarities made me even more tense as I read this.
The adars were remarkable calm. I suppose they've had countless years of experiencing such adventures. But still, when it's your child, everything is different. I bet it just killed Elladan to not be able to go after his own son. But he handled it well.
Those little elleth do have some extraordinary gifts. As hard as it is to admit, their male counterparts might should listen to them. I imagine Elrin will listen to Aewlin now...hopefully.
This was a really terrific chapter. I was on the edge of my seat. You set it up so well. I really enjoyed it.
Karen
Author's reply
Good point! Odd how often the things they find to do leave their female family members shaking their heads in bemusement. No, not a place I would want to be.
The adars have learned over millennia as warriors that calm is essential in the face of crisis - and the time to panic is afterwards. Elladan wanted to go - but was sensible enough to realise that Elrohir was the best person for the job.
Aewlin's gift (one I wouldn't want) is more useful in retrospect - when you can say 'oh, that's what it meant. But maybe the older ones have learned that her feelings are worth checking out before they go ahead and do whatever.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting.
Redheredh
· 17 June 2005
· Chapter 8: Liquidate
This was a exciting chapter. I liked how you kept dropping hints that there was something to fear at the dark pool. Although until the end, I thought the guys a little slow to not pay attention to Aewlin's foreboding about the place. It certainly built of the tension though.
That was very sweet when Galenthil stopped short of asking about the 'very special circumstances' which he was far too young to know.
"It will get better in time," Miriwen said symnpathethically. "Your adar is still adjusting."
"He is a slow learner, then," Elerrina pronounced.
Ha! The ladies' conversations are always so practical and revealing. Do they try to be so sensible because they must or because they think their husbands should not have to be?
I was glad to see that Elladan's leg has healed well and he is getting back in shape. We never see really handicapped elves in stories and I can understand that some, but not every war aor accident kills its vitims.
The whole discussion about what the eflings were going to be when they grow up was very interesting. It does seem that the extraordinary elf is someone who might find a purpose in helping others and not just surviving in the woods. I hope Elrohir is right about time bringing an answer for Galenthil and Elrin both.
"...melt into a puddle of grease." *snicker* I don't know why that struck me as so funny, but it did.
What a scary moment, for any parent or adult, when they could not find the boys where they should be. And the silence of the pool. *shiver* Very ominous after the mention of Aewlin's dislike of the place.
Elin's first instruct to Galenthil to stay put - that it was only a matter of time that they would be rescued - was the correct one. But, Galenthil's judgment and courage shone when that proved to not be the actual case for them. It was good to see an inkling of the path Legolas's son was on after becoming worried about his future occupation. Same with Elrin. Both are great kids. And Elrin apologizing for putting Galenthil in danger was just so endearing.
Perhaps it should not be considered remarkable how much these boys were like their dads. Especially, in the manner they joked and kidded eachother while in dire peril. They are learning from the adults after all. Hmm, maybe it is from watching their fathers living in peace and not disregarding how they came to Aman that the boys will find their future way. Not as warriors, but actual peace-keepers.
The game of 'jacks' between the girls was cute. Impatient Aewlin, tsk-tsk, she is in danger of being imperious about her ability. Though Nimloth is running close behind her as usual.
I loved the interact between invalid Elrin and his caring father. It reminded me of Elrond caring for his sons so tenderly when they were hurt. Both twins hinting at hidden depths was nicly associative to elves and nature itself. This is a lesson in hidden dangers Elrin will never forget. Not he or Galenthil even in their dreams it seems.
The closing scene with the children was very entertaining after such a tense tale. Eleniel is a gem of wisdom herself.
Great episode with lots of fright and delight. Plus the usual great writing!
Author's reply
Why would the ellyn pay attention to Aewlin? She's a girl! And not only that, she's younger than them!
Galenthil probably realised that asking would be cringe-makingly embarrassing - they're his parents! You really don't want to know!
Miriwen is sensible and practical - and loves Elladan for what he is. She is perfectly happy for him to play. I think Elerrina leans rather more on Legolas's strength - and he enjoys that. My sense of Sirithiel isn't as strongly developed. I'd better put her centre stage some time to get to know her better.
Elladan is recovering much more quickly than he thinks - he's inclined to get a bit moody about what he can't do rather than thinking about what he can. I was thinking about elves and battle injuries - there must have been elves missing limbs (as well as Maedhros). There is no way that they can have avoided injuries like that - even if cuts/broken limbs/infections/whatever cleared up because of elven healing, a lost hand/arm/leg is not going to regrow. And whereas I can see that a paralysed elf might choose to give up his life, surely lesser injuries wouldn't make them abandon their families?
Managing people is still going to be a relevant role, even without the need for a standing army and the sons of the ruling houses are likely to find themselves impressed into the family business, I would think. And I can see Galenthil in Forest Management. Elrin might perhaps follow his Uncle Elrohir into a more diplomatic role. But young elves do have plenty of time - if it takes them a dozen centuries to settle down, it's no big deal.
Elrin's probably right about their fathers' initial reaction, too. A loud, 'I wonder what's happened to . . ' followed by a peaceful sit down beside the water and a chat about old times. Although their elven spidey senses might have made them pick up on real danger more quickly.
Staying put would have been the best idea - it wouldn't have taken that long to find them, but the thunder put paid to that. And Galenthil is a sensible kid, too, like Elrin. Most of the dappiness went into Aewlin and Nimloth.
Who are, I suppose, still kids - while the others are entering the lovely phase of adolescence and having to work out their path into the adult world.
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it!
elliska
· 17 June 2005
· Chapter 8: Liquidate
I laughed along at the beginning of this at the idea of the males being banished. There is something very funny about warriors and elf lords being shooed away by their wives. And the things that are only suitable for ellyn part of the conversation was very amusing. Poor Elerrina--still fighting with the parents (Legolas showed remarkable restraint if he held his tongue at that parting comment). This would be one of the disadvantages of being an elf--long lives mean more time spent adapting to change.
But certainly poor Elrin and Galenthil! That is a nasty, tricksy little pool and it is probably a Good Thing that the little ellyth don't go near it. Elrin is such a good child, apologizing for causing trouble! That was so dear. 'Teenage' males could find trouble if they were locked in an empty cell!
I love these elfling tales!
Author's reply
Warriors, I think, often are incredibly gentle and restrained when dealing with those they protect. And Celebrian made sure that her boys knew how to treat ladies! They are still loving being family elves, too. The husbands and fathers part of their lives has been short in comparison to the rest and they are revelling in the attention.
Living FAR apart from her parents is easier on E/L, but it doesn't really help them improve their understanding of each other - but their families are linked for ever, so they have to struggle towards it. Maybe the kids will help crack it. One day.
It's a very innocuous innocent looking pool with a nasty kick to it. Elrin is a darling - very much afflicted with the sense of responsibility that often goes with being the oldest. And they didn't plot trouble - it just sought them out. As it does - you're right - there is a magnetic attraction between ellyn of that age and Trouble.
These are fun to do.
daw the minstrel
· 16 June 2005
· Chapter 8: Liquidate
I was really impressed by Galanthil here. He seems to be growing up quite nicely, acting to save someone else even when he's frightened. He's going to be a heck of an adult. But I think Legolas is right to wonder what the boys will do when they grow up. Their fathers took the role of protector. How will the boys make themselves feel useful?
So what's in that pool anyway? What's Aewlin sensing?
Author's reply
Galenthil is a good kid. With a strong bond to the forest - which I think will, in the end, be the thing that gives him a purpose and something valuable to do. And he has inherited (and been trained in) many of the characteristics of his father and grandfather. The ellyth, of course, will find that they are still stuck with the traditional female roles to keep them busy in their spare time.
I think Aewlin hasn't yet got her inner eye that focused - she's too young to have to put up with much more than impressions. She sensed a threat - and a power. The threat, I reckon, turned out to be Elrin and Galenthil's danger - and the power is the underwater power of the current drawing anything that enters the apparently innocuous pool to the waterfall.
I quite fancied making it a watcher in the water type creature - but keep coming up with this being the Blessed Realm and without nasty creatures. Which is rather a of a limitation, when you want to put your characters through a bit of danger!
Jay of Lasgalen
· 16 June 2005
· Chapter 8: Liquidate
So Elrin - nice, sensible, level-headed Elrin - has finally come a cropper. Poor lad! He was lucky that he was with Galenthil, and that Uncle Elrohir was able to rescue him - though I don't believe Legolas would have hesitated for a second if he had had to be the one to climb down into the cave. It must have been agonizing for Elladan to have to wait outside. Elflings and water really don't mix in your tales.
And what's this about Elrond and Glorfindel? And Legolas and Elerrina (I hope it's her, for his sake) and a moonlit pool? I sense two more stories here!
Jay
Author's reply
Poor Elrin! He is still sensible and level-headed - he's just a 'teenage' male - and Elladan's son! Trouble is inevitable - he doesn't seek it out, but it's bound to find him at times. It is a good thing that Galenthil avoided banging his head - and that neither of them went over that ledge.
Legolas would have gone after him without hesitation, but Elrohir was right that he was the best elf for the gig - even Elladan had to agree, if reluctantly. And elflings and water don't mix! Water looks all meek and tempting, but it has a forceful inevitability to it that is very dangerous. Whilst at the same time being slightly less likely to break them than falling off cliffs.
Elrond and Glorfindel, yes. And then there's that time with Thranduil. . . . And Legolas and Elerrina sneaking off for a romantic moment - foolishly thinking that they would be unobserved. So many stories!
Redheredh
· 10 May 2005
· Chapter 7: Seventh Heaven
There were such wonderful, caring sentiments here. You have everyone engage each other with affection and respect. (I want to be part of this family so badly!) The interaction amongst the children was as always very entertaining because you make it feel so natural. The ladies' conversion was reminiscent of days I'd spent at my relatives kitchen table. I got all nostalgic and I thank you very much.
Elrin is such a good kid. Please don't let his little brother be any more of pain than his cousins have been. Love how he got to name the baby. Elrond too should be very happy about his choice since his grandson is really carrying on a tradition of remebrance and honor. This time for Elros and Elwing. (as both were also named in conjuction to waterfalls) That was a very nice touch.
I can't wait to find out about the accident that fell Elladan and his poor horse. Elves are not suppose to stumble, even in the rain. Goodness, the embarassment, not to mention the inconvenience. ;)
I really shouldn't go on about your writing talent yet again. But*darn*! You make genius look so easy. -- Ah, so what have we here? Oh, just another dozen pages of superior writing and a simple tale made special by art and craft. Nothing unusual for this particualr author... --
- oops, almost forget to include a quote! - "...he had continued to receive as much attention and adoration as was good for any ellon..." "...the misgiving was eating at him." "Halfway, then...And if we let them walk the rest of the way, it will give them time to cool down." "I would rather know what was going on." "You would trust me to do that?" You convey so much of Elrin's modesty, good common sense, and sensitivity in this story. I hope you give him a story all his own later on.
You should also know that I have become emotionally dependent upon you to keep up the high standards you have set for yourself and be as reliable as Elrin in continuing to write like the dickens.
Author's reply
They are a great family. And they all manage to live pretty much together without wanting to do something terminal to anyone! It must be their elvishness. Although, having said that, Legolas's in-laws aren't exactly easy - so I suppose E2 did a good job in choosing wives able to get on with each other and the twins' parents. I feel a tinge of sympathy with Aewlin and Nimloth - having to sit with the ladies and learn 'girl stuff'. But, on the other hand, it is still true that in later life it is the girl stuff that proves extremely useful. (However politically incorrect. And I don't think the elves have discovered political correctness.)
Elrin is lovely. I don't think his brother will be a particular pain. I think that Miriwen is very good with children. Not that Sirithiel / Elrohir are bad with them - the twins' naughtiness is a lot to do with their exclusive and rather self-contained twinnishness - but Miriwen is one of those people who has a superb way with the young, and she manages to direct them by making them want to do what she feels they should. Elrin picked a good family name, I think. (One that only took several hours with a dictionary of elvish. But I have got enough names for another half-dozen little scions of Elrond's house. Not that there will be any more - but I'm prepared!) I liked the connection with Elwing and Elros.
The Reflection that gives a brief account of Elladan's accident is up now. It's short (because it is a Reflection), and it happens almost immediately after the end of the previous one.
Oh shucks. I shall blush and squirm now! I shall keep writing as long as anyone wants to read it. It's far too addictive to give up.
I like Elrin. I'm coming to forget that half these people are figments of my imagination. Sometimes I have to remind myself to put in actual LOTR characters, because I've got all wrapped up in the elflings.
Thank you for your encouragement!
The Karenator
· 10 May 2005
· Chapter 7: Seventh Heaven
What a terrific chapter. Poor cousin Elrin. I think he's caught between finding his cousins delightful and finding them completely annoying. He's such a responsible fellow and well, when you're responsible, you end up with more responsibility. Elrin manages the 'care' of his cousins well. The subtle signs of him growing up are there.
The new little one is too cute. I liked that the new parents allowed their older son to chose the name. And Elrin did well. Lovely name. That was one of the perks of being 'responsible'. I'm told that my brother wanted to name me when I was born...after my grandmother's cat...Flossie. I can't tell you how glad I am that my mother wasn't game. Elrin obviously did better than that.
What a wonderful chapter. Such fun to read.
Karen
Author's reply
What if your grandmother's cat had had a really cool name, and your parents had shrugged and given in - your brother would still be telling every single friend of yours about it. And, being grown up and mature, you would smile pleasantly between gritted teeth and fight off the urge to indulge in violence. So it's just as well she was called Flossie. I think, had Elrin gone for the famille Elrond version of Flossie, (some of Elladan's suggestions qualify), Miriwen would have been forced to put her foot down - but he is a sensible ellon and picked a nice name.
I think he is finding the cousins a bit less stressful in a way - they are more reasonable more of the time, but the downside is that they are older and have an even greater potential for causing catastrophe when they do step beyond the boundaries. Yes, a willingness to accept responsibility only leads to more - but he can cope as long as he is appreciated. And he is.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. It was a pleasant holiday from trying to make sense of Earendil's adventures!
Jay of Lasgalen
· 9 May 2005
· Chapter 7: Seventh Heaven
BTW - the next chapter of 'Reflections' is going to have to be about Elladan's accident! He fell off a horse??
Jay ;)
Author's reply
It wasn't . . . but it can be.
I'll go and insert it now!
Author Reply: It is now!
Karri
· 9 May 2005
· Chapter 7: Seventh Heaven
A lovely chapter, Bodkin. I liked that Elladan did not alter the name after Elrin choose it, even though it did not turn out as expected. My nephew had a hand in choosing his bother's name as well, as it really helped to make him feel apart of everything, instead of feeling replaced. :-)
Author's reply
Miriwen was happy with it - well, Elrin didn't attempt any of Elladan's 'humorous' efforts. (And it's a flipping sight easier to type than either Laerwen or Goerfer.) It is a good way to involve a sibling - although there should be limitations. I wouldn't fancy naming a kid after a Pokemon just to please the kids.
This was fun to write, once I got going. Thank you for reading!
elliska
· 8 May 2005
· Chapter 7: Seventh Heaven
Poor Elrin! He is such a good elfling! His cousins must drive him to absolute distraction and he is still good. I just love him! Aewlin's description of the adult's conversation while sewing (no wonder they wanted some excitement) was very funny and spot on, if you ask me. And I just cracked up laughing when Elrin asked if they thought he was stupid. I could just hear him saying that. Too funny.
I also loved Celebrian's description of her pregnancy with Arwen. The idea of her making Galadriel and Elrond go nuts is very amusing. And the twins' memories of missing the trip to Mithlond were great. Poor Elladan. This was not the time for him to hurt himself. That would be beyond frustrating! I really felt for him when Miriwen's labor started and he was stuck unable to walk with her. Argh!
‘Aewlin and Nimloth wish to ride,’ he told his uncle, ‘and they assure me that I am considered a suitable companion.’
Both of Elrond’s sons laughed. ‘And you thought it wise to check that that is not only what I said, but also what I meant,’ Elrohir guessed.
That was great. I love Elrin. Too perfect. And I loved him enjoying his new horse and worrying about his baby brother's impending birth. I don't have any siblings, for which I am very grateful. I think one could not help but worry how a new child would change the family dynamics. I think this little ride with his cousins and then the singing was a much needed distraction. And I am so glad he got to pick the name (and that Elladan liked it--that will teach him to not be specific!).
Well done! A very sweet chapter.
Author's reply
Elrin rather enjoys having his cousins count on him. In a somewhat masochistic way. And he likes being thought of as mature enough to look after them. Aewlin and Nimloth rather resent being stuck with girlie tasks - but they still find the conversation interesting.
Poor Elladan. He does seem to be rather accident prone. Too impulsive, that's the trouble. But fortunately Miriwen understands him perfectly and likes him just the way he is.
Elrin is sensible - especially when round his cousins. He gets up to mischief with his friends, but he has learned to be wary when Aewlin and Nimloth appear too sweet. I think he will love the little one too. He has a soft heart and a strong desire to look after people. Finding names is terribly difficult - especially when you have Elladan making outrageous suggestions - and I think Elrin did well. (And it only took me a couple of hours!)
Thank you. Not a lot happened, but it was fun to do.
Jay of Lasgalen
· 8 May 2005
· Chapter 7: Seventh Heaven
A lovely chapter, Bodkin - but poor Elladan! There could not be a worse time for him to be laid up with a broken leg! Elrohir's twins are clearly improving, which must be a great relief for him, but I still love their relationship with their big cousin.
It's always difficult to pick out favourite lines, but I think it's this: '‘Slapping someone is a recognised treatment for shock,’ Nimloth told him, her eyes narrowed. ‘No-one could hold it against us.’ '
Elladan's love for his wife was so clearly evident here, and I loved their wisdom in allowing Elrin to choose his new brother's name. Ellanthir. I like it.
Jay
Author's reply
Poor Elladan. It's a nasty break, too. And I really like Miriwen and Elladan - they make a great combination. One day I might do their meeting in Imladris, when Miriwen fell for him and he was too busy orc-slaying to be interested.
Ha! Elrin could hold a slap against her. For a long time.
And Elrohir's twinlets are growing up a bit. Being big cousins might well do them a world of good. But Elrin would miss them (in a funny way) if they decided to abandon him. He likes the way they look up to him.
daw the minstrel
· 8 May 2005
· Chapter 7: Seventh Heaven
Lovely! Elrin really is a nice boy. I was always a responsible child myself, but as I look at him, I hope he gets a chance to play too.
Author's reply
I admit that I am rather attached to Elrin. He is a typical first-born - responsible, hard-working, anxious to please. Lots of adult attention - and adoration - when small, and high expectations of him.
He has friends, like Nadhras, he does teenage-ellon stuff with. (I think there is a reference somewhere to him and his friends going off caving. Maybe I'll write it sometime!) But he is never irresponsible if left in charge of his cousins. He has learned that they need Watching. With a capital W.
Redheredh
· 18 April 2005
· Chapter 6: Sixth Sense
"We will be proud of them yet," she sighed. Well, I hope that was a real prediction and not a simple affirmation. ;)
Late to the review party as usual, but I still want to add my praises if only in a tiny way for this particular episode. I am truly enjoying watching all the children grow up. This may be Aman, a less dangerous(?) place then Middle-earth, but their adventures are just beginning!
Author's reply
Prediction. More than likely. Aewlin and Nimloth just need to grow into their inheritance. Being little Galadriel-alikes isn't easy for anyone - not for themselves and certainly not for their family!
Danger is relative, really. They are unlikely to be hunted by orcs, but they do have Valar present. And I suspect that the wildlife and weather can be pretty difficult at times. And then there is the ability of elves to make their own trouble.
Thank you for commenting - I'm glad you enjoyed it.
lwarren
· 18 April 2005
· Chapter 6: Sixth Sense
Oh my dear Lord, Bodkin! Thranduil and Galadriel stranded in the forest alone? It's a wonder the next War of ______ didn't start...or at the very least, a kinhurting (I can't picture either one of them doing the other serious harm, except maybe with their unkind remarks...really, they sound like elflings sometimes! LOL)
The fact Thranduil was hurt trying to help Nimloth down from the tree did not help the situation, I'm sure. But the revelations of each twin's individual giftings was prime stuff - the way Nimloth removed those splinters was great, and apparently an eyeopener for all, except Aewlin. Then Aewlin shows her gift of foresight. Great! Their elders became quite thoughtful in the face of all that promise!
I was particularly glad to see Galadriel read these two the riot act about their little tricks and tell them it was definitely not funny anymore. They both seemed contrite - at the moment! :-)
The escape from the lightning strike was very tense, and I loved their concern for the poor tree that was hit! A very interesting chapter, especially with Thranduil and Galadriel thrown together that way. They did a lot better than I expected! :-)
linda
Author's reply
I think Celeborn and Laerwen are a bit fed up with the Thranduil and Galadriel show. Sooner or later they will drop them both down a big hole until they learn that they can get on! I just love the newly coined kinhurting. It's going to stick in my mind for ever! And make me wonder about other degrees of internecine dispute. A kinirritating, perhaps. Or a kintutting.
Thranduil was decidedly displeased with Nimloth until Galadriel decided to rake the twins over the coals - and then he immediately became defensive of them against the Ogre of the Noldor. (He would have been such a sucker for a daughter - one bat of the eyelashes and he would have been putty.) Aewlin and Nimloth do have promise - I think that, combined with the self-centredness of twinship, it's one of the things that has made them difficult. (I fancy Galadriel must have been a rather difficulty child, too.)
There was plenty going on to keep T and G from remembering each other's more irritating characteristics - and each has, reluctantly, to acknowledge that the other is good in a crisis. Sitting them together in an empty room might cause more steam to rise!
It would be quite interesting to see Thranduil's reaction if Galadriel tried to take over the care of the tree . . . not sure he would like that.
lwarren
· 18 April 2005
· Chapter 5: Fifth Column
So much to like in this chapter - where to begin! Ah ha! the beginning...
Thranduil is such an elf in love; I really like the fact he appreciates the view up in the tree so much he loses sight (and interest) of the view (elflings) below.
Galenthil and Elenial are typical kids - finding the hurt animals of the woods and caring for them is something my sister and I did alot when we lived right at the edge of a heavily wooded area. Two elflings would not be able to resist! And a hawk! I really loved Galenthil's single-mindedness in this story. He has found something of interest and is absolutely zeroed in on it. Elenial is interested, I think, not only in making sure the bird does well, but that her brother is successful with what he has undertaken. She's very supportive of him throughout.
Elerrina I can sympathize with - there were lots of times when I knew something was going on with my three just because it "appeared" that nothing was! Too peaceful! Too calm and quiet! The little conversation between Elerrina and her "slippery" husband was hilarious! (I see what Elenial meant when she told her brother, "Adar is home...I heard Naneth giggling." How funny!)
Oropher's old glove made different connections for the two elflings - a rather sad one for the more introspective Elenial, who notices the fact she and her brother are growing apart; an exciting one for Galenthil, who of course, wants to fly the hawk.
Ah yes, that slippery Legolas - sneaking up on Hithien that way! And Hithien telling him 'look, but don't disturb it!' Then the talk with his father, mother and wife about the twins keeping the bird - very elfy, Bodkin, the way they discuss what the bird's wishes would be...very much in keeping with the wood elves' philosophy and relationship with the forest, I think. I did like the punishment - that's right, make them learn more than one lesson here, and find it halfway interesting and useful, too.
The end with Elenial finding the picture of Oropher and hoping he will return from the Halls of Mandos some day to fly hawks with his great-grandson is VERY interesting...are any Oropher-bunnies nibbling at your ankles yet? :-)
linda
(PS - great chapter!)
Author's reply
Well - the elflings are their parents' problem. And he has other things to think of! He and his wife have been divided for too long for the thrill of reunion to have worn off in a mere couple of decades.
Galenthil is very single-minded - and his sister's greater adaptability certainly helped them keep their quest quiet for longer. And they did well -birds are not easy to raise, although I suppose it would be less difficult for highly empathetic elves.
Yes - for ten minutes you relish the quiet and then you start to worry. And Elerrina was brought up conventionally, let me tell you. Her parents did not encourage indoor wildlife. She lacks elements in her background that would immendiately make Miriwen suspicious. (Legolas finds her naivety delightful. And her giggling.)
Oropher - yes. He wasn't even in my mind at the beginning. But now . . . maybe he is ready to return from the Halls of Mandos.
And I think they do see themselves as protectors and guardians - both of the forest and the elflings in their care, and feel (and have the time) to do their best for them all. It took a while to get where this one wanted to go - but then it just flowed!
The Karenator
· 17 April 2005
· Chapter 6: Sixth Sense
Delightful chapter! Of course, being an Elvenking fan, I was all smiles to see him appear. And to put him with Galadriel was just too much fun. They're like two billy goats butting heads. I loved how they sparred and jabbed, and I especially liked how Thranduil came around to taking the side of the little elleths when Galadriel scolded them.
The healing scene was nicely done. The actual healing was subtle, but Thranduil immediately recognized the child's gift. Nimloth turned out to be quite a budding healer. Very nice.
I also really liked the concern and gratitude the elves felt for the tree that had taken the lightning hit. Poor tree.
The ending was very sweet with the little elleths cuddled up next to the big people giving and looking for comfort. Thranduil summed it up nicely when he said that they might be handful, but when the chips were down, the twins came through.
I truly enjoyed this. An absolute pleasure to read.
Karen
Author's reply
Well, nothing would be more likely to make Thranduil defend the twins than knowing that their great grandmother was displeased with them! I keep hoping to defuse the edginess between Thranduil and Galadriel - but secretly they just enjoy it too much. (I think Celeborn and Laerwen find it irritating, but it'll take more than that to make them stop.)
Nimloth has inherited talent. She's not entirely sure what she wants to do with it yet, but it's there. And she and Aewlin are caring under their rampageous exteriors - it's just that they've only just begun to register that people who are not them have as many rights as they do. They'll be fine. Galadriel will be keeping an eye on them to make sure of it.
(I think the tree will be all right, too. It's lost its crown, but the lower branches are untouched and the rain stopped any risk of fire. The elves will reduce its trauma and send foresters to clean the torn trunk.)
I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for reading.
daw the minstrel
· 16 April 2005
· Chapter 6: Sixth Sense
There was a lot going on in this, Bodkin. Nimloth shows her gift and she and her twin feel the difference between them. Galadriel puts her foot down over their behavior, and I'm sure it's no accident that she and Thranduil are the ones left behind for the twins to face. That must have struck both Elrohir and Legolas as kind of amusing. And then there's that tension between Thranduil and Galadriel. Very interesting moment in the development of Elrohir's daughters.
Author's reply
This was a fun one to do - I've been looking forward to putting Thranduil and Galadriel together somewhere they had to stand (sort of) shoulder to shoulder. I think Celeborn and Laerwen have had a very entertaining afternoon imagining the situation, too. Not to mention Elrohir and Legolas working hard to control their hysteria.
Aewlin and Nimloth are beginning to be much more aware that they are not two parts of the same whole - and they are registering that the other inhabitants of the world have a right to self-determination; they just haven't quite got to realising that that means that they have to control their own desires. But they will. Ananeth has a more ruthless streak than Ada. She will see to it.
And this one has actually been done for some time - but waiting for chapter 5 to surface.
Jay of Lasgalen
· 16 April 2005
· Chapter 6: Sixth Sense
I'm curious - does this take place before or after the story in 'Reflections', where Elrohir fell down a cliff when he rescued a bird-watching Nimloth? Do none of them ever learn?
Jay
Author's reply
This takes place after. A fair few years after. I think Nimloth was probably about 5/12 - 6/15 or so there and she's now - what did I say 9/22-ish?
Do none of them ever learn? Where would the stories be if they did? Life in Imladris / Mirkwood / Gondor / anywhere else would just be terribly tedious and dull and filled with perfect elflings. And Sauron would have seen the error of his ways and apologised before taking up social work in the ME equivalent of Calcutta.
And the trouble is - if the adults don't attempt rescue, you just know the elflings would fall!
Although I must make a better and more comprehensive timeline, so I can remember who did exactly what and when.
Karri
· 16 April 2005
· Chapter 6: Sixth Sense
LOL! Isn't that so often the way of it -- we kill ourselves trying to rescue a young one that didn't really need rescuing. Thranduil is lovely in this chapter, as well as his 'kittens'. I enjoyed the sorrow for the poor tree, too.
Author's reply
Thranduil was never keen on Galadriel - I think he saw her main problems as being over-powerful, over-arrogant and over here! And now the situation is reversed and he is over there! (And Celeborn is determined that they will learn to tolerate each other.)
Myself, I think he is rather appealing in his treatment of the terrible twins. (I'd soften towards him, if I were Galadriel.)
Hopefully the tree will survive, with the help of a bit of elven singing.
elliska
· 15 April 2005
· Chapter 6: Sixth Sense
Hehehe. Now that is something I would be afraid to contemplate much less try to internalize enough to write--an injured Thranduil and Galadriel practically alone and stuck together. You can just imagine that I snickered all the way through this one. Everytime either of them opened their mouths was a gem to me. :)
In addition to just getting a kick out of the basic premise, I enjoyed that Nimloth and Aewlin seem to have some of the fear of Ada in them finally in their sort-of respect for the dangers of the forest. And I loved seeing Nimloth's healing skills although she doesn't know the danger she is in practicing on Thranduil :) and I think it is funny that she has experience treating minor wounds.
The lightening emergency came across as quite tense, really. And I loved their concern for the tree that was struck.
But really if I started trying to quote lines I loved, I'd paste the whole thing in here. This was very well done.
And now I have a confession to make--you want to know how dense I am? It was only with this chapter that I finally noticed what you are doing with the titles of these. I feel a little stupid. That's really cool. I have som much trouble with chapter titles for some reason. I could never keep something clever like that going.
Love these.
Author's reply
I think Celeborn and Laerwen are determined to make Galadriel and Thranduil get over their aversion. And now Thranduil is in the Blessed Realm, the complaints about Noldor interference in Arda are a bit old hat. I don't know if he has really realised that the situations are reversed now.
Once Nimloth's little friends realised she could tackle minor injuries, I expect they were only too happy to let her. Elrond, on the other hand, might find the hairs on the back of his neck rising up at the thought of the difficulties she could have got into with instinctive untrained healing.
The chapter titles just started - First Acquaintance being called that long before the story started to grow. And it's why Going Forth was the fourth chapter even though it was done second. (It does mean the titles are not always desperately relevant. Some numbers seem much harder to do than others. And I haven't yet thought of titles for eight and nine. Got one for ten, though.)
I'm glad you liked the story!
Jay of Lasgalen
· 15 April 2005
· Chapter 6: Sixth Sense
Thank the Valar that Nimloth and Aewlin are finally developing a little responsibility. I'm delighted that Nimloth has inherited her Ada's healing talent! We already knew that Aewlin took more after her great grandmother, after the incident with the pool. It was great to see Nimloth so caring with poor Thranduil, and for Aewlin - feeling sidelined by her twin's skill - to save them by her foresight.
Great chapter, Bodkin.
Jay
Author's reply
They are beginning to have a better understanding of those who are not them. And they are beginning to understand, too, that they are two people - closer than most, but not the same.
The Nimloth-healing bits have actually been written for a month or more - longer possibly - because this chapter was waiting for me to feel inspired enough to write a Galenthil/Eleniel chapter for 5. I think that finding these elements in themselves will do a lot to help these two to mature and become more responsible. (And, of course, knowing that Galadriel is keeping her eye on them won't do any harm.)
(You seem to have a better grasp of all the different strands than I have! I bow to the memory capacity of she-who-remembered-that-A/N-were-blondes. One day I must get round to creating a complex timeline of this world.)
Bejai
· 15 April 2005
· Chapter 6: Sixth Sense
Wonderful chapter, Bodkin! I certain do love these stories of yours. Interesting to see how that children are developing, the things they are learning about themselves, their families, and their friends. Everything you write is just a joy to read, and always makes my day.
Author's reply
Thank you - the thought of me making someone's day is really cheering. Reciprocated.
It's enormous fun doing the Valinor stuff, because it doesn't have to fit in with anything, except (vaguely) with what I've done before. (Although the son Elrond and Celebrian had in Purpose has never featured again!) And I find that I really like writing the elflings.
But equally, I really enjoy trying to fit stories into a world that is more, shall we say, documented. Like Earendil, or Mithrellas. (Although finding out about sailing ships is proving a little too informative for me!)
Karri
· 9 April 2005
· Chapter 5: Fifth Column
A lovely chapter, Bodkin. Legolas seems like a very good adar, and it is amusing that he and Thranduil think so much like when it comes to parenting.
Author's reply
Leoglas has an excellent basic training in parenting - he had a very good adar himself, and has learned at the knee of an expert. I think that, if you feel your parents got it right, then you are quite likely to carry on in a similar way.
And fortunately, he has Elerrina to do the mothering bit that he missed out on. (He might not be any fonder of her parents than they are of him, but they adored their children and parented them well. They just didn't want to hand their precious daughter over to an elf who would take her away from them. Because, of course, there's not been an elf born who really deserved Elerrina.)