tigerlily713
· 27 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Great chapter and beautiful story! I cannot wait until we have more from you! Lily
Author's reply
Thank you, Lily. I enjoyed writing this story. I need to take two weeks to finish my semester and then I'll be ready to write again, I think.
Elentari
· 27 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
I nearly cried at Thranduil and Eilian's talk. Seriously. It was such a touching scene of a stern man who suddenly sees hiszeal may have caused more harm than good- it really hurst to see how much he put on him, even if it was of love and fear, and how badly Eilian craves recognition.
Loved the eye stone story. And wanted to put Thranduil on my lap when he became hurt as he watched the enamoured couple dancing- too many painful memories, it seemed. It is a good thing Thranduil has good friends of his own, people in whom he can trust and that will stand for him when he needs it (whether he wants it or not, I can hear Beliond say).
I also want to applaud you for your dealing with Sólith- and many, many hugs to the lovely Isiwen who is, it seems, the only one to hold the brat in place. That, ecxept when thranduil is playing the over-protective father (and it's great to see him like that, I say!) threatening to make the settler's life hell if he does not go easy on the king's son. And take it, Sólith! Eilian has so many devoted people in his life, if only he could see it. Even in times of dire need they are willing to share what few they have with him, because he *is important*, damn it! I think it kinda caught poor Eilian off guard, he wasn't quite ready for such overwhelming show of affection.
It seems the old saying rings true on their family as well: We are the only ones that can talk about our own. Pity those who dare do it.
Poor Legolas. I think he will not see Tuilin for a while yet, if ever. Poor, poor lad indeed. Come here, darling, i will do what i can to ease your plight.
Bravo! I loved this story, daw; and I am sorry to see it end, even if it ends so perfectly and - dare I say it- with such an elven mixture of hope and sadness, of renewal and longing.
Hmmm... maybe we get to see lorellin next? I could do with the lack of Tinar's wife, if I got some more of Thranduil's wilful wife. I'd like to hear some about her. By the way, I saw Nimlandra's fic about the royal couple's first meeting and was enchanted. thank you for leaving a note- I would never have found it otherwise.
Cya!
Author's reply
Oh wow, I am so glad you liked that scene between Thranduil and Eilian. It took me quite a while to write it because I wanted it to be honest and painful and that's not easy. Eilian needs his father's love and approval more than either of them realizes, I think. The affection that was showered on him by his family and friends at the celebration was just what he needed. It's one reason that the party needed to happen.
I was particularly struck by the appropriateness of an opal in the ring that Eilian gives to Celuwen because "eilian" is the Sindarin word for rainbow. Thranduil misses his wife. Her absence is a hole in the family that I don't think has healed even yet.
Legolas is grateful for your offer of comfort. He'll be right over!
And did you see Nilmandra's story "Eilian's Begetting Day"? I like that one too.
daw
Bodkin
· 27 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Ah, happy ending.
Interesting that Thranduil compares Eilian to Oropher as well as Lorellin. Has the poor elf always been surrounded by impulsive enthusiasts? I don't know why Eilian was surprised that he is being kept home - he's been allowed to ride for less than a week and he's still in pain. He was bound to have to spend some months as a pen pusher until his hip improved and then some time in a less demanding posting. Perhaps that's one of the reasons he managed to stay quite calm about it. Apart from the obvious benefits, of course.
Thranduil should note that it was when he showed his weak point regarding his sons, rather than when he was 'being king' that Eilian came round - and bear in mind that taking charge of the Southern patrol made him behave responsibly.
Moreover, five minutes with Solith must have made him realise that Eilian could not have done anything other than elope with Celuwen. Even her fading was not enough to make him bend. I like Thranduil's use of the royal 'we' to intimidate - and the way he asserts he is defending Celuwen as well as Eilian.
Fun to see Legolas make Alfirin giggle. I'd like to see more of her and Ithilden. I feel with her that, as well as being conventional, she's so much younger than Ithilden, she was probably quite willing to follow his lead - making him boss elf (although not like Tinar). And as for her attitude to the king - he was an authority figure rather than someone she knew personally before her marriage. In short, the only thing I can see her getting ferocious about with either of them would be Sinnarn. Celuwen, on the other hand, was childhood friends with Eilian, so their relationship is much more equal from the start - and the two of them and Gelmir must have had their moments of trying to evade the righteous wrath of Eilian's adar, so she's probably more willing to try to get round him.
I hope the introduction of Galadriel's gift of foresight to the conversation with Beliond is not suggestive of any future unpleasantness.
Author's reply
I'm sure Eilian expected some period of recuperation, but he may have been hoping to do something more fun: play with the novices maybe. He's never been particularly realistic about stuff like that. I think the reference to Oropher shows that he comes by his impulsiveness honestly on BOTH sides of the family. And yes, scolding is probably the worst possible way to handle Eilian. Thranduil needs to get hold of himself.
Apart from that, Thranduil rules! Figuratively as well as literally. He outclassed Solith in every possible way.
What a sharp analysis of the differences that the histories of the two wives would make in their relationships with their husbands and father in law. I'll be you're right every step of the way.
One of the things foresight would have told Thranduil was that he was going to lose Legolas to sea longing. I think it's better he didn't know that.
Thank you for this nice review.
daw
Anonymous
· 27 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Thranduil drew him into a close embrace. “Take care, Legolas. You will make a fine lieutenant, but you must take care and come home again whole. I have had enough of wounded sons for a while.”
For a moment, he paused, scanning the much-loved faces turned up to him. Alfirin looked motherly and anxious, and a serious-faced Ithilden put his arm around her shoulders. Legolas knew that it had always pained him to send his brothers into battle. Eilian stood unhappily near Legolas’s left side, his hand still on Legolas’s leg, and Celuwen waited a little behind him. But it was Thranduil upon whose face Legolas focused. His father looked grave, but when the moment came, he raised his hand in farewell and let his son go.
Daw, you have absolutely outdone yourself. I want to cry and clap. I feel like I'm sitting in the theater at the end of a movie, waiting for the credits to roll. How have I possibly fallen in love with all these people so much? This story of Thranduil and his family is a total gift to read.
This is the best work I've read in a long time. Absolutely awesome. Thanks so much for all your time and hard work in writing it.
Esamen
Author's reply
Thank you, Esamen. I am immensely flattered by your reactions and your praise.
It seems to me that it must have been hard for Thranduil to let his sons go into danger when he could have stopped it with a wave of his hand. But he couldn't do it. It wouldn't have been right and he knew it. So he sent off the most precious things in his life, much as he might have liked to keep them locked in a storeroom with his other jewels.
that was a nice end to a lovely story. i must say i very much enjoyed that one. you're very talented in writing stories of different natures, alot of people stick to a certain style of writing but yours is very varied, it intrests me every single time as well.
Author's reply
Glad you liked it, Caz-baz. Endings are hard to write actually. I'm glad you think my writing is varied and interesting. I truly enjoyed writing this story.
Jebb
· 27 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
What can I say I am so sorry to see this story end but it was a lovely ending with Thranduil at his kingly best. Being honest about his fears with Eilian may be the thing that allows them to at least understand their differences and how hard it must be for him to have lost a loved wife and see a loved son behaving the same way. Approval first definitely seems to suit Eilian better!
The put down of Solith was masterly 'Do you mean to insult our son' run for the hills Solith your days are numbered! Ada and King wonderfully combined.
The celebration ceremony made me cry they were so happy.
Lots of little things stand out in this chapter, Thranduil fidgeting with the knife and the knowledge of a knife in the heart because of his wife and son.
The relief everyone felt when Adar arrives to deal with Solith, Legolas preferring to walk alone and then being included by Alfirin I would love to know what he said sometime! Thranduil hoping his 'children' would behave!
Ithilden amused and caring, Thranduil unable to look on such happiness when Eilain and Celuwyn were dancing Beliond and Maltanaur who rode through the night something he would not let his charge do! Eilian's friends bringing food for the feast and so many others that make your tales such a rich tapestry of pleasure
wonderful writing wonderful story so sad to see it end but look forward to more very soon
thank you
Author's reply
This last chapter was all Thranduil. He's good Ada and good King and he is doing his best for his son. That means a lot to Eilian, I think, who is, for the moment, blindingly happy. Solith was outclassed in every possible way.
Those details you mention are so satisfying to write. I can see these little moments of their lives and see them interacting with one another and even I don't know what Legolas said. He whispered it to Alfirin and Ithilden heard it and they're a family and outsiders don't get to hear.
Oh dear. I am so sad this story is over. I have another one in mind and was talking to Nilmandra about it last night, but I have to do some work first.
Rose Sared
· 27 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Have I told you recently just how much I love this fic. All your OC's are as real as any canon character and I so care about what happens to them.
I hope Leggy finds his girl again soon, the suspense is killing me.
Thanks for being such a good writer.
More more soon please
Rose
Author's reply
I am shamelessly fond of my OCs so I am grateful for anyone who appreciates them. And actually, I left Tuillin's fate vague so I can produce her or not as is convenient! I need a couple of weeks to finish off some pressing work at work but then there will be another story. I can't be without one.
French Pony
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Can I ask you something? I want to have an ada like Thranduil and brothers like Ithilden and Eilian and Legolas. Do you think that Thranduil would accept a daughter-in-law-at-large? Just sort of a general daughter-in-law without the bother of me actually having to marry anyone?
This bonding was the Right Thing To Do, if only because it finally forced Thranduil and Eilian to say their pieces to each other. And they were good pieces, too. It reminded me of something one of my friends said to me once, when he was trying to stop me from doing something aggressive and stupid and self-destructive. He said, "If you do this, you'd be hurting someone I love, and I won't stand for that." I think everyone needs to hear something like that, and both Thrandil and Eilian have now had the opportunity to say it to each other, and they will be better people fore it. They both tend to be guarded and tightlipped unless something forces their hands. This bonding seems to have been that something. Good for Celuwen!
Potluck wedding! Potlucks are the best. Food at a potluck is always better than at any other kind of dinner, because it's made well and with great care. What a nice way to have a wedding dinner. And Elf mariachis, too! Do you know that verse from the old Tom Lehrer song?
"The mariachis would serenade,
And they would not shut up till they were paid.
We ate, we drank, and we were merry,
And we got typhoid and dysentery."
I'm sure that Elf mariachis are in an entirely different class, though.
Sólith has been officially outnumbered, outwitted, outfoxed and outclassed. Point Thranduil, Sólith to serve. It must burn his Elvish britches to be related by marriage to the King. Good. Serves him right! Even Isiwen is on Thranduil's side.
This was quite an adventure!
Author's reply
Yes, but wouldn't you WANT to marry one? I can kill off a wife and do something about that eternal bond thing. I think there were exceptions! Maybe Thranduil himself.
Thranduil and Eilian are both groping their way to a better understanding. I assume they will still drive one another crazy but they may at least believe a little more in each other's good will.
While I like Tom Lehrer, I had never heard that song! The Elf musicians were good although some of their songs were bawdy because that's appropriate at a wedding. And Solith was outclassed in every possible way.
I'm glad you liked the story, French Pony. There is always another one.
erunyauve
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
I know I've been reading too much Tolkien when my brain wants to pronounce 'Celebration' as 'kelebrateon'!
I loved the scene between Eilian and his father. Thranduil's love for his son and dismay at their troubled relationship strike a chord. And it would certainly be very important to elves to have a proper ceremony, and I don't think Eilian has truly realized how much he upset his family. Perhaps after the ceremony, however, Thranduil has a slightly better idea of just how impossible it would have been for Eilian to obtain Solith's permission.
And poor Legolas - though I assume his missing maiden will turn up again in the future.
Author's reply
The habit of that hard C is hard to shake!
I liked writing the scene between Eilian and Thranduil. I had to keep stopping and thinking about what the real problem was and how each of them would see it. Neither of them seems to be able to help doing things that will hurt the other. But perhaps understanding why they do them will help.
I actually think that Eilian did the only thing he could have done if he and Celuwen were to bond. The parents made things impossible. But that doesn't change the fact that he upset everyone else. Too bad naneth wasn't there. She really would have told him to go for it, I think.
Antigone Q
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
I was waiting for this. I've been peeking at my email all day - and last night, too!
I loved Thranduil in this chapter. So he was up half the night being introspective and figuring out the rift between Eilian and him? That was a good thing. And of course, when Thranduil finally took the time to slow down and explain to his son how much he worried, and how deeply Eilian was loved, Eilian responded. I hope Thranduil notes for future reference that Eilian would never give such a heartfelt apology after being raked over the coals for twenty minutes, even if he was clearly in the wrong. I hope I see more understandings between them in the future.
I was very satisfied to see Thranduil put Solith in his place, too. Totally aside from seeing Thranduil in protective-father mode, it was good for Eilian to see that Thranduil won't allow anyone to be disrespectful of his family. And clever Thranduil! It was a stroke of genius to name Celuwen one of his Settlement Advisors in front of her father. Now if Solith has problems with Thranduil's edicts regarding the settlements, it will be tantamount to mistrusting his own daughter's judgment.
The ceremony was lovely. I could just imagine Eilian and Celuwen all in green - good choice of wedding color for Wood Elves! And it makes perfect sense that Eilian, who has so many friends, could count on them to be at the ceremony, make noise, and bring extra food.
There was a line in "When Shadow Touches Home" that made me all sniffly: it had to do with Thranduil going to bed and staying awake all night, missing his wife deeply. There was an echo of that here. I'm glad Beliond came to comfort him, at least a little.
I'm sorry this one is over; I had a good time.
P.S. ...Bring on the Elflings!
Author's reply
It tickles me that you looked forward to this chapter, Antigone. I am so grateful for my readers.
You're right of course, that after a false start, Thranduil groped his way to treating Eilian in the best way possible to have him respond well. I think Eilian needs to feel loved by the people who matter most to him, and Thranduil is high on that list. And though he must know his father loves him, they just talk right past one another sometimes. This was better. Maybe they can do better again.
Solith was in a very unequal battle, outclassed by Thranduil in every possible way. And I liked the thought of Eilian's friends each thinking they would bring some precious bit of food and then finding that others had done it too. And for Thranduil, this wedding did evoke memories that are painful as well as precious. Poor guy. No wonder he wants to protect his sons.
I'm kind of sorry this one is over too.
And no elflings for a little while!
LOTRFaith
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Am quite curious to see if Tuilinn will be in the next story... Hmm? :-) I was pleased to see Thranduil lock horns to a point with Sólith...
I liked how Thranduil stepped down and explained his actions to Eilian... I know how Eilian feels at times... Being a middle child;-) Sometimes you feel like everyone is out to get you... True or not;-)... Looking forward to the next story hopefully... :-)
Author's reply
I'm a middle child too, and my sympathies are with Eilian. As I was typing that though, I wondered if it would be different with elves because of the big differences in their ages. Each one of Thranduil's sons might have felt more like an only child. Or maybe not. It's really hard to guess at the effect those big time spans would have had.
Solith was in a contest he was bound to lose. Thranduil is the master.
The Karenator
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Oh, Daw! What a wonderful chapter.
I am so proud of Thranduil. He recognized the source of his fear for his son, narrowed down exactly what it was that frightened him and admitted it! It seems to me that he never meant to hurt Eilian, he simply wanted to protect himself from the kind of pain he felt when he lost Lorellin, and if possible, push Eilian into being different from his naneth so he could protect them both from this horrible outcome. I think that by explaining how he had come to set up his reaction and relationship to Eilian, it helped Eilian finally understand where his adar was coming from. I can't help but think that while it might not change who Eilian is, it will make Eilian more aware of how his behavior affects those who love him. Gee, it only took them around 350 years to figure this out. What can I say? They're males! :>) Still, it was a wonderfully written scene. It was a difficult but poignant moment for Thranduil, and such a sweet moment when father and son came to an understanding. Utmost in that understanding was that above all else, they love each other. And for Thranduil, the realization that Lorellin is still with him in the form of their son was a real tugger on the heartstrings. Eilian is the living legacy of two of the people Thranduil loved most: His wife, Lorellin and his father, Oropher. Oh my goodness. I'm a little teary eyed. Just wonderful, daw.
Solith is a slow learner, but he seems to be catching on. Thranduil was the king and adar through and through at that moment when he asked if the old goat would dare to insult 'our son'. And the best blessing the old coot could come up with was one involving the political advantages of the union of one of the settlers and the king's son...and a sort of backhanded acknowledgement to his daughter's happiness! Bless his heart. He has a long way to go.
There were so many nice little details that I loved. The extra food the people brought out of love for Eilian. The ring that Thranduil had given Lorellin at Eilian's conception. Legolas searching the crowd. Thranduil's sense of loss while watching Eilian and Celuwen dancing. Maltanaur riding all night to be present at the celebration. And of course, Beliond.
The ending was also well done. How strange it must have felt for Eilian for Legolas to be riding back south while he stayed home. Of course, Beliond will not let the whelp out of his sight. Thranduil seemed to be in a different place with his sons, and it was doubly hard for him to see Legolas leave again. As difficult as it was, he let his son go. A very touching moment.
Such a good story, daw. So much happened! I'm suffering the depression I always feel when your stories end, but I always have hope that there will be another. This was a real triumph of personal examination for your characters. Way to go!
Karen
Author's reply
Karen--
Thank you for that wonderful reaction to the father/son scene. Yes, they're males. But fortunately they're male elves, so they have time! I think that understanding why they act as they do will help them refrain from hurting one another so much.
Solith is not an easy person to like, I have to say. I strongly suspect that Legolas said something insulting about him when he whispered in Alfirin's ear! Those details you mention all mattered to me, so I'm glad you liked them. You know what it's like when you write: each little thing is deliberately chosen.
I expect there will be another story! This is the last week of classes and then final exams and then I will have time to breathe again.
nessie
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Okay, it's about time I reviewed for this one. I loved this story, and it was sad at the end with Thranduil, having to tell Eilian how much he is like his mother and how he's frightened because of that. It was also sweet of him to let Eilian give Celuwen the ring that Thranduil gave to Lorellin. It must have been a bit hard for him, but he made a good choice at the end. Now, are you going to start writing any other stories any time soon? If so, I can't wait! I would love to see the Battle of the Five Armies, or something before that, or even the Royal family defending Mirkwood while Legolas is out killing Uruk-hai and befriending dwarves(!) and men. I would also like to see you write something about when Legolas arrives home and his family discovers his sea-longing. Just little suggestions ^_^ But anyhoo, this was absolutely spiffing, and I can't wait for more Ithilden, Eilian, Legolas, and last-but especially not least- Thranduil!
~nessie~
P.S- Only just discovered I don't have to add the sick on the end here like I have to do for ff.net! Yay!
Author's reply
For Thranduil, that linking of Eilan and his mother and Thranduil's anger was a real insight. I'm thinking it may affect their relationship. They're always going to rub one another the wrong way sometimes because they're so different, but maybe Thranduil can stop hurting Eilian so much.
I don't know what to write next. I'll have to think about it. Maybe Ithilden and young Legolas? I'd like to write the Five Armies, but I may do a young Legolas thing first. I miss him!
daw
Ms. Whatsit
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Oh, and I forgot to add that I was highly amused when Thranduil told Eilian to stick a chair under the doorknob. Except that I'm just puritanical enough to go "EWW!!" at the thought of hinting at bedroom activities in a discussion between parent and child. So it was a combination of "EW!" and "Hah!"
Author's reply
LOL. It was a *distant* hint and they were males and one of them was Eilian!
Ms. Whatsit
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Not the last chapter! Noooooo! *stomps feet and throws tantrum*
Okay, tantrum over. The conversation between Eilian and Thranduil was...just...wow. That was an eerily perfect parent-child conversation, especially for those two. Thranduil wants to make Eilian understand how much he's loved, but he just can't break his habit of judging and criticizing and lecturing, and it all ends up coming out wrong, and Eilian reacts defensively. At least Eilian managed to get the most important points: that Thranduil loves him, appreciates his service and that Lorellin is the reason for a lot of Thranduil's concern. And yet they both know that Thranduil will always be especially worried about Eilian because even when he's being responsible he's just less cautious than Thranduil; it's just a difference in attitude between them. That was perfect. And the bit about Lorellin approving of Eilian's hasty bonding made me laugh. I can see it: Thranduil being furious and Lorellin saying, "But darling, it's so *romantic*!"
And then the celebration. Solith was funny, but even more than that, he shows how much *class* Thranduil has, especially in comparison. The way he maintains that he's happy for the couple and the way he calls Celuwen his daughter--he's great.
I wonder what Legolas whispered to Alfirin. He can be a smart-aleck. And I felt bad for him looking for Tuilinn. I liked that Maltanaur showed up, though, and I liked the Beliond-Thranduil bit at the end, and everyone's reactions to Legolas riding back to his patrol.
This was a great story, Daw--I look forward to seeing what you write next!
Author's reply
I think that Thranduil and Eilian will always drive one another crazy (because, as you say, they're so different), but the more they understand one another and themselves, the better they can keep from hurting one another. And yes, "But darling, it's so romantic!" is probably exactly what naneth would have said!
Thranduil is a wily elf. And he does, indeed, have class. He will welcome Celuwen and treat her well, and Solith had better at least make a semblance of politeness to Eilian when Thranduil is around.
I thought Maltanaur needed to be at Eilian's wedding reception, if not at the event itself (that would have been awkward!).
Glad you liked the story, Ms. Whatsit.
daw
Manderly
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
That was truly beautiful - you had me teary-eyed, but then I've always cried at weddings. It's wonderful how you've brought everyone into the celebration, even Lorellin.
Thranduil is really a shrewd elf. He had everyone where he wanted them to be, and basically saying things that he wanted them to say, especially Solith. I still don't like that old grouch and I really wish someone would give him a good smack. However, it was very satisfying to see him being cornered by Thranduil.
The scene between Thranduil and Eilian was very touching. Perhaps Thranduil should resort to being the loving adar more often - Eilian seems to be so much more receptive to tender words than to rules set out in black and white. Though Thranduil clearly loves all his sons, it amazes me sometimes that he can be so abrasive toward Eilian. I guess it all stems from his love for Lorellin.
Thank you for such a wonderful story!
Author's reply
Thranduil did indeed have everyone where he wanted them. I suspect that's a common situation for him which is one reason he's so ticked off when Eilian follows his own drummer. But as you say, Thranduil did a better job of approaching Eilian in this chapter too. Naneth used to say that if he gave approval, Eilian would try to please, but Thranduil wanted those things in the other order. Eilian is soft-hearted. Love speaks to him in a way that discipline does not.
Nilmandra
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
Your Thranduil really shines in this chapter. He is enlightened about his son, almost an epiphany in seeing why he is so hard on Eilian, and then he manages Solith very well. He makes it impossible for Solith to not go along with the celebration, and then nicely stands up for his son.
Maltanaur and Beliond are great as always, and I enjoyed the send off Legolas got at the end. I am rather sure Beliond will keep him out of trouble.
Oh, and I vote for an elleth for Eilian. That will drive him both crazy and make him very happy. :D
Author's reply
Thranduil is smart, and when he is confronted with an important problem, he can often figure things out. And this time, the solution jumped out of his own mouth and he saw something important about his relationship to his son.
Eilian and Celuwen are going to WAIT to have elflings. They are being patient!
naneth
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 15: Celebration
A fine ending to a fine story. Well done as always. Your stories always leave me happy but wanting more, more, more!
Author's reply
Thank you, Naneth. There are always more stories. :-)
This one was fun, though, and I'm sorry to see it end.
White Wolf
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 14: Conversations
I liked Legolas's and Celuwen's talk. I'm also happy that Legolas has been promoted. He deserves it. I hope Eilian realizes he should be happy to stay close to home to be with Celuwen more, even though I know he's itching to go south again.
Author's reply
I think that Eilian knows he has a good thing at home right now. All he really needs is permission to enjoy it without feeling like he's shirking his duty. And being ordered to stay home should do that, I think. Of course, he and Celuwen will now be living in the palace with Thranduil. And he'll be working all day with Ithilden. If that doesn't keep him on the straight and narrow, I don't know what will.
tigerlily713
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 14: Conversations
Great chapter! Interesting new turn of events as well! I look forward to seeing how Celuwen takes the news that Eilian is now Home Guard and I look forward to seeing how she handles her new opportunity as advisor. Great chapter! Lily
P.S. Yes, I used to read your stories while in church. I was so enthralled with them that I would print them out and take them with me everywhere as I hurried to catch up on all of them!
Author's reply
Celuwen will be overjoyed to have her new husband home. They really are besotted with one another. And she has something interesting to do too, so her new life is looking up.
esamen
· 26 April 2004
· Chapter 14: Conversations
Oh, well done! You have satisfied (1) my cravings for Elvish romance and action--love that dressing-down from Ithilden-- (2) the need to see Legolas in all his youthful golden glory, and (3) my desire for Celuwen to spread her wings and fly! The perfect story for the modern woman in her office cubicle on Monday morning.
Now all we need is a battle, an injury, and a bloodied warrior naked in bed getting a sponge bath and a soothing stroke on the brow. Can I help? Just got to have my cup of h/c refilled once in a while.
Happy writing,
Esamen
Author's reply
Ithilden might be scary to work for. He's capable of kicking butt quite impressively. I've gradually been growing Legolas into what he needs to be to be in the Fellowship, and it is fun to see him strong and heroic. And Celuwen is going to make all the males sit up and take notice. Yes!
This story is considerably happier than some of the ones I've written. No one got hurt at all, unless you count the thieves, and I don't.
Glad you enjoyed it, Esamen. The final chapter is almost done.
that was a great chapter everyone get's what they ummmm... *deserve* shall we say.
hahaha. i'd hate to have Calith's job though.
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Calith has my deep sympathy. Tinar will be a pain and I can imagine Eilian tormenting Calith from sheer boredom. Even if he behaves, he'll be a trial to be around because he won't be in the best of tempers!
The Karenator
· 25 April 2004
· Chapter 14: Conversations
Hi daw,
Under such delicate circumstances, Ithilden handled Tinar well. He could not allow it to look as if Legolas had complained, or it would put Legolas in an awkward position in his future dealings with Tinar. And since Legolas had handled the situation well, it would undermine Legolas's authority and ability to deal with Tinar. I thought Ithilden dealt with the issue quite well. He made it plain that the complaints were not from Legolas and was a concern that had been repeated over the years from many sources. But that Tinar...I think my favorite part was when he went to sit down without leave to do so and then suddenly realized what he was doing. And of course, not only can Ithilden win a battle of wills, but he is second only to Thranduil in the staring contest. That even made me uncomfortable, but I also got a smile out of it. Doesn't it just make you wonder what goes on in Tinar's head that he's not 'gotten it' after centuries of serving the realm?
And what to do with Eilian? Again, Ithilden rose to the top like cream in his dealings with his younger brother. Of course, it helped that Eilian has finally started to realize what a big change this marriage has been for Celuwen, and the adjustments will not come as easily as he thought. Even Eilian seems a little ambivalent as to what he really wants to do now that Celuwen figures into his decisions. Funny how that 'lived-happily-ever-after' fairey tale just flies right out the window when reality strikes home. Who knew Prince Charming's socks could smell so bad? Or that the Fair Lady 'needs' to brush her teeth first thing in the morning? Or that the transition for Celuwen wouldn't be a piece of cake? A rude awakening, I'd say! And the Prince and his new Princess have to live with Thranduil...IN THE PALACE!
Legolas's first taste of command! I almost feel sorry for Eilian having to live with The Brothers Perfect. I really think one of the 'perfects' should screw up soon. Eilian needs a little reassurance that he's not an Elven genetic accident. Of course, Tinar may make him feel better about himself. :>)
“She has grown into her own role over time, and we have all benefited from her efforts to care for us, but she had to learn the management of the household on her own, with help from my steward, of course, but also with him looking over her shoulder as she took on areas he once controlled.” He paused, and Celuwen lifted her eyes from her sewing to look at him." See! Thranduil is no dummy. He knows what it is likely to be like for the two sister-in-law's to forge a relationship on the same turf. Of course, he is also smart enough to try and find Celuwen her own niche. Fortunately, it's one that will benefit them all. And yes, Eilian has met his match. I'm sure Thranduil will enjoy seeing his son come to realize that his new wife can more than hold her own. I think Thranduil may have learned this same lesson himself once long ago... And it was a good thing... :>)
Good chapter, your dawship. I'm really 'really' looking forward to the party. I have my gown pressed and my slippers oiled. Let the celebration commence.
Carry on, Karen
Author's reply
Ithilden is good at his job and has kicked recalcitrant warrior butt before. I have to admit I sort of like him when he's in this kind of mood. He's a lot like his adar, and I have a VERY soft spot in my heart for Thranduil.
Eilian is learning that being bonded goes on forever, and that's a good thing, but it's also a thing that takes some adjusting to. And his father and Ithilden are seeing to it that he had plenty of time to adjust. He was dreaming if he thought *this* author was going to send him off and leave Celuwen on her own. Get a grip, boy!
Legolas does look a little too perfect in this story, but that's ok. He's screwed up in other stories and lately I've been wanting to show his strengths because he's grown into them quite nicely. He gets a pass this time.
I've written the part of the next chapter that's about Thranduil and Eilian meeting. Celuwen's parents have arrived. And today I'm going to write about the party! It seems a fitting end for what has been one of the happier stories I've written.
Estel_Mi_Olor
· 25 April 2004
· Chapter 14: Conversations
Alright! Ithilden deserves much applause! I loved his telling off of Tinár. I always hated that conceited prat and I couldn't wait for someone to tell him what Ithilden did! Three cheers for Ithilden! I am so happy for Legolas and Eilian! That life is working out for them. Legolas will serve very well as a lieutenant. Thranduil and Celuwen will also got on capitally, since their personalities are rather different. At least their temperments are! I wonder if the party is actually going to happen in this story...pardon my sarcasm. Thanks again and keep writing!
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LOL. I am getting ready to write about the party right now. It's going to happen!
Ithilden is a scary guy, I think. I wouldn't want him mad at me. And Legolas will indeed be a good lieutenant. He's a very faithful warrior.
Antigone Q
· 25 April 2004
· Chapter 14: Conversations
Tinar surely won't enjoy being right under Ithilden's nose all the time, but probably it will do him some good. I don't envy Ithilden, though, having to deal with Tinar and Eilian together constantly.
I was guessing that someone would tell Eilian he had to stay home for a while. Eilian took the news with better grace than I thought he would, and that makes me feel better because it shows that he has been thinking about what Celuwen might want and need, too. Ithilden did a good job of handling the whole matter with tact and delicacy. He and Thranduil are much alike in many ways but Ithilden seems to have a better handle on dealing with Eilian. Maybe the epiphany Thranduil had earlier will change his relationship with Eilian for the better - and of course, Celuwen will help, too.
One of my favorite moments was of Legolas earnestly promising his brother he wouldn't disappoint him. He's so sweet!
So Celuwen will be one of Thranduil's advisors? What a good idea! I picture Celuwen as a strong-willed person though, and thinking of she and Thranduil working together - I forsee some tense meetings at times. Though on the other hand, Celuwen may be subtle enough to work around Thranduil's stuborness, and Thranduil has shown a deep respect for women in general throughout your series (Er, except for the one who was committing treason, but, you know, that was a special circumstance.) So maybe not as much conflict as I was thinking. Guess you'll have to write a sequel so I can find out (hint, hint).
Well done!
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I loved the idea of Ithilden "giving Tinar the benefit of his personal supervision." I wouldn't want him doing that for me, I have to say, although his aide seems to like working for him.
In lots of ways, Ithilden IS better at handling Eilian than Thranduil is. He's more disengaged, I think, despite the fact that he loves Eilian. Thranduil is emotionally entangled in all sorts of ways he's only beginning to recognize.
Legolas is a sweetie who is willing to do what is necessary even if it involves working with people he doesn't like. Like dwarves, for instance! And Celuwen and Thranduil will undoubtedly have their moments. I can picture them arguing, while Eilian cowers in a corner.