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Interrupted Journeys: Part 3 Journeys Begin  by elliska 110 Review(s)
BodkinReviewed Chapter: Epilogue 2 on 6/5/2005
Big sigh of satisfaction. Despite the odd ominous overtone. I am so pleased that Dolgailon knows Gilbert well enough to see right through him. It could be useful to use him as a feed through to the evil Black Swan. (I hope Tulus manages to remain redeemed, though - although I have a dreadful feeling that his fate might involve self-sacrifice of some sort.)

But didn't the elflings give their parents a great day! They let them join in all the games - and tell stories - and watch the fireworks - and Radagast even got to introduce Legolas to the wildlife. They even got to share the berry tarts.

Aradunnon and Amoneth are wise to bring Galithil back to the Stronghold, though. He needs the company of elflings his own age. Young Galasserch sounds a bit too big for his boots and enjoys showing-off for the troop commander's son just a bit too much. (Although it wouldn't do him any harm to grow up somewhere rather safer either.) And anyway, A2G are too much in the open down there - I don't want them getting hurt! Or Dolgailon, either.

Nasty point Tulus brought up - 'and truthfully, I feared involving you. As yet you are beneath the notice of these people,” Tulus looked up and fixed Dolgailon with a pleading look. “Please stay that way, Dolgailon,” he said urgently. “Let the king manage this.” ' He's right, too. The BS would have no hesitation about crawling out from under a stone to dispose of him - just to make everyone squirm. I could get pretty fond of Tulus, you know. Gilbert, on the other hand . . . (I have a feeling that the spy-master should involve Tulus more in the anti-BS campaign. He knows more about her than most - and seems to be the only one around who is actually taking an elleth as a serious opponent. You don't need to trust a spy to use one.)

I love Legolas being more enthralled by Radagast's ability to talk to birds than by Mithrandir's fireworks - it seems very suitable for his personality.

And the ending - the elflings, the stars, Thranduil's memories of his early years with his adar and cousin - lovely. And Eirienil's words - “Lord Thranduil and lord Aradunnon make the Evil One stay away. I think they do a better job than those stars would do,” she said firmly. - are a delightful indication of the confidence the elflings have in their carers. Misplaced, possibly (except that I can't see the stars being a lot of help), but the attitude of happy elflings in a secure environment.

Don't be too long with the next part, please. I'm already missing this story!



Author Reply: Hi Bodkin! I'm glad you enjoyed the elflings' day with their parents. I did too. I always thought things like this were a lot of fun when I could do them. And I like Legolas, Radagast and the birds too. First of all, I love birds. And also, it reminds me of him drifting off to see the huorns as they were passing Fangorn on the Quest. He would naturally be very connected to the animals in his father's realm, I think. And the Hobbit implies Thranduil gets messages from bird, so...Bottom line, I've got almost 1000 birds on my life list, so we're gonna see birds in this story. :-)

Galasserch acutally plays a small part in the next part of this story that references canon but that's not for another 30 years. He should have grown up in the north but he doesn't and he is (indirectly / unintentionally) going to lead to some serious grief. He's a sad sort of kid.

Galithil definitely needs to be with his cousins in the stronghold--not that he can't cause trouble there, mind. He will. It will just be much less deadly. (I have to say, I got a very big kick out of A2G!). Dolgailon is pretty bright. Bright enough not to say, "You're lying, Glilavan," right then. He will keep an eye on his lieutenent and it will prove valuable. I'm afraid you are very correct regarding your suspicions about Tulus. And Tulus was right to be worried about Dolgailon. So we have a nasty little circle there.

I'm glad you liked the ending and Eirienil's little comment. I actually had a lot of variantions on this ending (lots of different memories of Thranduil's along the same theme) but I went with this one. I think the elflings are generally speaking very secure.

I hope not to be too long with the next part. I have a bunch of little stories that I decided I would work together pretty loosely for Legolas's early childhood, so that is what it will be. I just need to decide what order to post in.

Bodkin, I want to really thank you for reviewing every chapter of this fic for so long. I really appreciate it so much! It makes a big difference. :-)

French PonyReviewed Chapter: Epilogue 2 on 6/5/2005
Begetting Day party! Family picnic! Those are fun times. Grownups have a chance to mingle and do grownup things, because all the kids are in a pack and just need an eye kept on them to make sure they don't go completely amok. I do think that multigenerational family get-togethers are among the most interesting things in the world to observe.

The ball game was cute. It reminded me of one time when we were all at my aunt and uncle's house and my little cousins took a soccer ball outside. My sister and I followed them, and eventually my aunt and uncle and my mom and dad, and even my grandmother joined in. That was one of the very few activities that that side of my family has ever participated in with so many people together (my grandfather stayed on the sidelines to kibbitz), and I think it was that much more special because of it. I always like to see scenes of extended families playing together.

Fireworks in the woods. . . Thranduil is right to be a little nervous, given that the woods tend to be somewhat flammable. I don't know that I'd be entirely reassured by the prospect of Radagast handling fireworks, either. But what a treat! Home fireworks are illegal where I grew up, so I can only imagine how radically neat it must be to have someone bring over a box on your birthday. But fireworks and birds in your hand is just the perfect topper for the day.

Good to see Tulus and Dolgailon making up, but it seems that ol' Glilavan has done what many kids do and taken precisely the wrong lesson from Ada's downfall. The problem with examples is that they can be interpreted in so many different ways. The parents hope that the kids will learn "don't do the stupid thing I did." But the kids are more likely to learn "I will succeed where Ada failed." At least Glilavan hasn't yet learned how to lie convincingly, which might make Dolgailon's life marginally easier.

And I don't believe for one instant that Dolgailon is beneath the notice of Manadhien and Fuilin. The Black Swan is way too clever for that. You never know which string will make the knot unravel completely, and oftentimes, it's one that appears to be beneath notice. I bet that if she sets her mind to it, she might figure out that offing Dolgailon would unravel things quite a bit.

Do you think that most parents try to keep kids from finding out about the existence of war and politics and death? Or were my parents just being weird when they neglected to omit that from conversation around me and my sister when we were little? I read so much about parents who want to protect their kids from ever knowing that Bad Things happen in the world, but then I can't ever remember a time when I didn't know about, say, the Holocaust, and knowing about that didn't shatter my psyche or anything.

Author Reply: Hi French Pony! I enjoyed your thoughts on family fun. I've said it before--I think I'd like you family. :-) I agree though. My family didn't do much of this kind of stuff because some of us lived in Michigan/Pennsylvania, some in Kentucky and some in Florida (a little too spread out). But I have gone every year for 20 years to my husband's family get-togethers. They are a blast.

I'm with you and Thranduil on the fireworks though--honestly, those things scare the hell out of me. We used to make the fireworks run every year to buy illegal ones (lived near a state where you could get anything and in a state where you were allowed nothing). Then I'd sit there and just cringe as my husband and his friends set them off. They were pretty and it was fun but I always had a garden hose in hand. Personally, I love birds and I would have rather had Radagast get a Northern Parula or a Painted Bunting to sit in my hand than give me fireworks.

I think you are right about Glilavan, unfortnately. We will have plenty of time to see that. That scene was in and out of the final version of this (for space reasons more than anything else) but I finally left it because I thought we should see Tulus and Dolgailon resolve somethings.

I think you are right about Dolgailon and the way Marti and Fuilin see him too. Also unfortunately.

I don't know what parents would do to shelter kids these days. I'm not a parent but I think it would be pretty impossible. My 12 year old niece says they watch news stories about the Iraq War in school. And even if they didn't, how could kids really avoid that sort of thing with the Internet and TV etc. But my parents (mind you--I'm 40, so this was 30 years ago when we had one TV and no Internet) did try to keep me away from coverage on the Vietnam war when I was Legolas's age (5 years old). And they certainly didn't tell me much about the actual battles my cousins were in. But in today's world, I don't know if you could keep that from kids. I do agree with you though--hiding things from kids doesn't help in the long run. Explaining things to them on a level they can understand is always better. I think Dolgailon was just surprised his brother and cousins were awake and probably would have talked about different things if he had known they were. After all, for a birthday party for a five year old, what is more appropriate: Iraq War or Mickey Mouse? It's all a matter of context and presentation, I guess. That is also why I am supremely glad not to be the parent of a young child these days.

I want to thank you so much for leaving such wonderful and thoughtful review for each chapter of this long series. I really appreciate it and I hope you continue to enjoy! :-)

J.G.EReviewed Chapter: 15 on 5/31/2005
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY. Its an update! Its an update! Its an update! (starts jumping up and down). Wow, things are really starting to heat up. Marti is up to her old tricks again, but this time its serious. At the beginning I thought she was just going to be a love-sick pest, but now she is starting to cause some real damage and give poor Thranduil a bad reputation. Speaking of which, I'm glad that Thranduil is giving Tulus another chance, but his son is, to me, a little bit too suspicious: he won't answer any of his father's questions concerning the letters he wrote, he becomes angry and defensive too easily and I can tell that his promises are fake, just don't ask me how, I just have a huntch.

Plz tell me that Thranduil will get captured and tortured and...and...and. I don't know why, but I want him to be tortured, although for some wicked reason, I love having my heroes in lots and lots and lots and lots of pain. Leggy is also my hero, but there is too much of him in pain and I think he needs a break, don't you? But this your story so you go by the way you want or think is best and if you need any ideas or anything I am glad to be of service and you only need to ask. Peace out J.G.E.

P.S. Did you get my E-mail (I hope so, it took me forever to do)? If not, I'll send another one


Author Reply: Hi JGE. I'm glad you are excited. :-) Yes indeed Marit is not going to give up and she wasn't lying when she said she's in a better position and not a worse one. She is serious trouble. Thranduil proved her wrong in the way that he handled Tulus and the other conspirators and I think that probably brought them back to his side, but nothing is going to accomplish that with Marti. She thinks she is justified in her actions, as you will see. I'm glad you liked the way Thranduil handled it though. That part was hard to write. And you should be suspicious of Glilavan. Definitely.

As for the level of pain in Thranduil's future in this story, I'm sorry to disappoint you but I must say I do not write that sort of thing well so it will not appear. There is a definite amount of angst, but it is all of the emotional variety in my story. Have you ever read Cassia and Siobhan's Mellon Chronicle stories. I think you would like them, if not and they are well written. There are 3 of them, I think that specifically involve Thrnaduil and not just Legolas. If you haven't read them, search for "Mellon Chronicles" in your favorite search engine and then click on "Top Picks" in the left frame for their stories. And that whole archive has numerous hurt/comfort stories that you might enjoy.

No I did not get an email from you. Send it to elliska67@yahoo.com and make to put something Tolkien related in the subject line so I know it's ok to open.

Thank you for the reviews. I always love reviews. :-)


BrazgirlReviewed Chapter: 15 on 5/31/2005
Hi Elliska! The "conversation" between Thranduil and Tulus was... hot! I love it! Well done, well done! Strong and emotional, very nice! I read it very fast. Anyway, Thranduil is a nice person above all things. For me, though, the best part of the chapter was Amglaur saying he was going to live in Greenwood! Ahahahha the king did not expect that! ;-)
But... I did not expect Tulus's son to be one of Marti's!!!! No!!!! I hope Thranduil finds out! And his nephew, poor one! You are making me nervous with thos creepy elves - creepy Marti! Now there is a lot to explain about her. I simply though she loved the king and hated Lindomiel, but there are more deep things there... Great plot!

Author Reply: Hi Brazgirl! I'm glad you liked the conversation between Thranduil and Tulus. I thought about that a lot because I wanted it to come across as fair but not whimpy--in the end though, there are only so many things I can see an elf doing in reaction to someone who willingly confesses and shows remorse. So this is the direction I went. :)

And I am glad you were surprised and worried about Tulus's son. I do feel sorry for Dolgailon there. in the Epilogue, there is a part where Dolgailon speaks with Tulus. Right now it is cut but I really would like to think of a way to work it back in before I post the Epilogue (which will hopefully be tomorrow, barring any disasters).

And yes, indeed, Marti is much worse than she first appeared, isn't she. You will find out the details. Eventually.

But I agree--the part that cracks me up the most is Amglaur saying he's staying until Legolas comes of age. Thranduil did not see that coming and despite the fact they are getting along a little better, I still bet he wanted to run screaming when he heard that. :-) Poor Thranduil!

Thanks so much for the reviews. They really mean a lot to me. :-)

The KarenatorReviewed Chapter: 15 on 5/30/2005
Thranduil handled the interrogation of Tulus well. What to do with an immortal being in terms of punishment is certainly a tough one. And since the elves were supposedly wise...in most instances...wisdom should cut both ways. Still, just living begets mistakes. Then...it turns into a big old mess. Not only have Tulus and his cohorts been involved in sedition, but they've tried to capture/assassinate the queen and the commander's wife. Not to mention that in the process, the children were endangered. Thranduil's in a tough place. You did a nice job of showing how miscommunication/misinterpretation of actions can result in bad feelings. Tulus has obviously matured and reconsidered his anger, but he's in so deep now that he'll be lucky to survive the wrath of She-Who-Can-Carry-a-Grudge. And boy, oh boy, this grudge has become her life's work.

I have to say though, I'm disappointed in Glílavan. Really, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. However, it looks like he has his own agenda...or is still mixed up in SWCCAG's. The bad news is that he's young and apparently a chip off the old block. I hope his adar can pound some sense into his head before he ends up as fish food. Thranduil is wise to not trust either of these fellows.

And what in all of Arda did Oropher do to the elleth and her family? If nothing else, it demonstrates a frightening level of determination.” I love this line. Determined, indeed. Crazy as a bat without a belfry! I can't wait to hear what Galadriel and Celeborn have to say. Surely, the Lady of Light remembers Marti. Surely...

I've really liked the way Amglaur's and Thranduil's relationship has changed over the years. It's taken a while, but finally Amglaur has had to admit that Thranduil is devoted to his daughter. Amglaur even called Thranduil 'ion-nin'. Minor little slip there, but very telling. I love the game you came up with! Sounds far more complicated than mine. You might have best a seller there!

I also liked what Thranduil had to say about how Evil had shaped his life and how he wanted to focus Legolas on the beauty of Arda rather than the darkness. And Amglaur is so impressed that he's going to stay until Legolas is grown. Oh joy! Still, the relationship is better and there's a chance that it might be civil. A chance....

Marti isn't going to give up, is she? The fact that she believes that she still has allies...now even closer to the king...is rather chilling.

Only one more chapter to go? Did I read that somewhere? I hope you won't be too long in getting on with the next installment. The suspense is killing me.

Karen


Author Reply: Hi Karen. :-) I'm glad Thranduil and Tulus came across ok. It was tough to decide what to do with Tulus. I think, since they did confess and cooperate and all that--and they all claimed not to be involved with the assassination thing--Thranduil could see hope for healing, so he took it. I think for an elf, that would be the preference. Marti and Fuilin would get a different fate if Thranduil could catch them, but that's the trick isn't it. And you're right--once in deep with anything like this--especially SWCCAG :-) -- getting out is not going to be as easy as saying, 'I don't want to play anymore.' As for Glilavan--I think you will be more disappointed still before the end.

You will slowly see what Oropher did--it is complex. :-) Marti, like Tulus once did, truly feels justified in her deeds. Tulus could really understand Marti very well. Or he could if he knew what she was really about. He will find out. Soon enough? We'll see.

Galadriel! Can you imagine how Thranduil would feel if he came to owe her something? I just love Thranduil and Galadriel together.

Yes, Amglaur has been won over. It may have been painful for him, but he can't deny it. Poor Thranduil--now he has to live with it. :-) I wonder if Thranduil would prefer to be hated instead?

The game is really very complex-- it's a strategy game I used to play as a teenager with friends called Conquer (just put the name in Sindarin here). You have land and armies and supplies and all that and the goal is to maintain enough land to accommodate an expanding population. It had a lot of variables and was fun to play (think a 70's board game version of the computer game Civilisation). But I still like your game better--such a clever and ME idea. :-)

I'm glad you liked Thranduil's comments on evil and keeping Legolas focused on the beauty of Arda. When I thought about Thranduil and his childhood (since I have him old enough to remember Doriath) and then I think about Fellowship Legolas (who is ready to turn away from the quest to go look at the Huorns and who plays games with Gimli and goes off looking for the sun) I see Legolas as someone still very innocent and merry and interested in the beauty around him. That could be because he is very young during the quest. But since I have him born in the mid Third Age so that I can play with other canon events (as you will see), I've got to account for that playfulness some other way. And I think Thranduil, after seeing such horrible things, would be pretty determined to help his son see a better world than he saw--that is why Oropher came east in theory. Anyway, that is what I will play with in that arena.

But no, Marti is not going to give up and she's not lying when she says her position is better and not worse than before. Chilling is a good description for her. As was the one refering to bats that you made earlier. :-)

Yes, only the epilogue to go. It is only a little fluff, really. The end of the prologue. I hope I won't be too long in moving to the next part either but I have to decide which part the next part will be. There is the next part that actually advances the plot. And then there are little fluffy things I wrote just to fill out Legolas's childhood in my head. I can't decide how many, if any, of those I'm going to post.

I started to think about that today so hopefully I'll come to a decision soon.

Thank you so much for the reviews. I really appreciate them. :-)

French PonyReviewed Chapter: 15 on 5/29/2005
Don't worry -- I meant "emotionally draining" in a good way. I actually had a sublimely wonderful time this weekend, but deep joy can be just as exhausting as deep sorrow. Fortunately, though, it was definitely deep joy.

Author Reply: Oh thank goodness. That's much better. :-) I really am glad you said because I did worry.

French PonyReviewed Chapter: 15 on 5/29/2005
This won't be much of a review. I've had a very long, emotionally draining weekend, and I don't think I'm capable of writing something penetrating and analytical yet witty tonight. But I did want you to know that I read the chapter, and that I thought it was very good. I loved the way Thranduil went about interrogating Tulus. It showed his willingness to listen to what Tulus said and to what Tulus didn't say, and it also showed his willingness to consider his own behavior as well as the behavior of his subjects. Very few colonist lords are so accommodating.

And I also liked what Amglaur had to say. He's really warmed up to Thranduil over the years, and he has some very good advice to show for it. I like the idea that they are reaching some kind of entente with each other. And once again, the only way they can do that is if they both give a little.

Author Reply: I wish I could do something to make you feel better since you always make me laugh. Thank you so much for taking the time to review.

I'm glad Thranduil and Tulus came off ok--I wanted to show him just as you said so it makes me happy to see it worked. And yes, poor Amglaur and Thranduil are finally meeting in the middle--you'd think they would after so much time. I really appreciate you you taking the time to share your thoughts on this when you are not feeling well. I hope it was a least a distraction.

I wish you nice chocolate and wine and the company of those who make you feel wonderful. Take care. :-)

daw the minstrelReviewed Chapter: 15 on 5/29/2005
I read this last night and then my internet connection went bad and I couldn't review. And I had so many things to say!

Thranduil shows himself to be a just ruler here. It really is hard to know how to deal with elves who have broken serious laws. I suppose if you live forever, you have to believe in the possibility of rehabilitation, and in Tulus's cases that seems like a reasonable belief. But the son! Oh no. Did Tulus know the letters were in some kind of code? He seems to have guessed it. Wow. This is a problem.

I liked Amglaur's threat pledge to stay around until Legolas is of age. I was also intrigued by the fact that Thranduil says he promised his wife they'd have only one child to raise at a time. That suggests how seriously they took the task. But how sad that the kids are still worried. That's realistic though.

Author Reply: We will not discuss technological problems. Technology is out to get me.

I'm glad you think Thranduil comes across as just. I thought a lot about this when I was writing it. I did not want him to come across looking like and idiot / not responding enough. And I thought about how we have seen him respond in canon--he doesn't exactly hesitate to lock up 12 dwarves when he sees them as a threat (of course, he has a goal in mind with that--he wants to encourage them to answer his questions and he has time to wait). On the other hand, he is willing to show someone like Gollum mercy and let him out to find healing in the forest. And these are elves, not dwarves, his own people, that have confessed. In the end, I decided an Elven ruler would need to find a long term solution, as you said--these people live forever.

But the son, indeed! You will have to wait to see what Glilavan's involvement is and how much Tulus actually knew or at least suspected of it and how big a risk he is taking to cover for him. In the end though, Tulus is trying to help his son, I will assure you of that much. Glilavan is a problem, as you said.

Poor Thranduil. Fifty years of Amglaur--it's enough to make you not want any more children to prolong the agony. ;-)

Poor kids indeed. I think it is realistic, though. They'd question a lot of things after seeing what they did. The next chapter is mostly happy though for them so it ends nicely. This time. I'm afraid you're right though--in the long run, loss is real in Tolkien's world--that's why I don't have too much room to give you a hard time ;-)

Thank you so much for the reviews. I really appreciate them so much. :-)

BodkinReviewed Chapter: 15 on 5/29/2005
Well. I think Tulus was being pretty honest. And Thranduil admitted that he had been wrong, which'll help. I could see Tulus becoming reconciled and helping out Candirith's wife and general recovering. And I suppose a couple of thousand years in the outer darkness because of some inconsidered mouthing off is probably not too unendurable if you're an elf.

But, Glílavan! I can see why Tulus would be more economic with the truth when it's a matter of his only child. I can see why Glílavan would be stroppy and get involved with the BS - after all he has grown up knowing that his father was treated badly by the steam roller of royalty. But I don't want him to turn out to be a baddie! He is Dolgailon's friend - and Dolgailon trusted him. And besides, I want Tulus to escape the wiles of the Maiden of Doom.

Have the guards thought about looking round for some rather large lakes? Esgaroth is probably a good start! The Black Swan'll be out there on the water somewhere preening her plumage. (I liked the comment about sneaky manipulative behaviour - and usurping control - being a Noldor trait. Generalisation thought it is.)

I rather hope that Galadriel manages to make Thranduil obligated to her in some way, though. I get a little tired of sanctimonious Silvans. (I know he's the King of the Silvans rather than being one himself, but I liked the alliteration.)

And Thranduil is going to be stuck with Amglaur indefinitely! I love seeing those 'you must come and stay' comments coming back to haunt him. Although Amglaur seems much more appreciative of his son-in-law's good qualities these days. It's interesting to hear more of Oropher. (You must put in some more conversations about him.)

This bit Tulus’s eyes narrowed and he gave his son a slight shake to draw his attention. “You make sure you mean that, ion nin. I will not allow you to come to harm. You are all I have left in the world. Do you understand me?”

Glílavan looked at his father for a long moment. Then he nodded.
just caught my eye. Oh dear. It has ominous written all over it. And scapegoat.



Author Reply: more economic with the truth ROTFL!! Just have to start out by saying that this line killed me.

You're right--Tulus was honest for the most part. I think he really does just want what is best for the forest and his family. And that's tragic because once you get yourself involved in things like this, it's just not as easy as all this to get yourself back out. As we will see. But I'm glad you like Tulus and Glilavan (I swear if I type Gilbert and leave it that way by accident in the actual post I will blame you!). You caring about them will make things more interesting later.

Looking around Long Lake--now that was funny. Funnier than you know as you will find out. And usurping control is a terrible generalisation but it is one of those little lines that will be meaningful to Thranduil later.)

Accepting help from and being indebted to Galadriel is just going to kill Thranduil, isn't it? (I loved the alliteration).

There is a line in the first chapter of part two where Lindomiel jokes with Thranduil that one day Amglaur is going to accept his invitation--the day has come. Poor Thranduil. Though you are right--Amglaur is much more tolerable now. Still, poor Thranduil. :-)

I'm glad you liked that between Tulus and Gilbert--I debated heavily even putting that conversation in. It is meant to be ominous and a bit ambiguous--we will see what Tulus and son get themselves into soon. Legolas just needs to grow up a bit first.

Thank you so much for the reviews. I really love them. :-)

Elena TirielReviewed Chapter: 15 on 5/29/2005
Well, so much happened in this chapter... Thranduil's interview with Tulus was tense, but Thranduil seemed very wise in the way he handled Tulus' punishment.

But... ack! Please don't let Glilavan be involved! I like him! But you really left his words and behavior with his father ambiguous (no doubt 'cause of your NCA genes [Nasty Cliffhanger Author])...

I'm really getting to like Amglaur. Your family scenes are heart-warmingg and make me smile...

And if Marti is indeed holding a grudge for six thousand years (and that's not just a lie she made up to beguile Tulus), she is one truly scary nut-case. I would actually like it if Galadriel has some information that helps Thranduil.

(Hmmm, do sapphires signify anything in LoTR? Can't think of anything...)

Carry on soon with the plot and the plotting, please!

- Barbara

Author Reply: Hi! I'm glad you liked the discussion between Thranduil and Tulus. It was tough for me to decide what to do with these elves at this juncture--especially since there are others coming later. I think that in the end, a good Elven ruler (after they got over how angry they were ;-) ) would have to think of a way to heal their community--some long term solution. So that is what Thranduil is attempting to do. But as he says, Tulus and the others have to be willing to rejoin the community. We will see if they are.

Glilavan is meant to make you wonder--you are quite right. :) So I'll be mean and just let you do so. I fear the NCA genes (loved that) do come out in a few of the up coming stories. Sorry.

Marti is a real case--I have notes for all the important characters. The notes for Thranduil are about one and a half typed pages. For Marti, they are three typed pages with a bunch of stuff I added later written in the margins. I am writing the part of my First Age thing (that is sort of the back story for this) that really involves her and it is a lot of fun.

Poor Thranduil would just be so upset if Galadriel actually helped him. It'll just kill him. :)

As for sapphires, if they have a LotR significance, I did not intend to apply it here--but you have so piqued my curiosity (you are very bad for that, you know) that now I will have to look into it. So many jewels do, of course. I really meant it as simply as it was stated there--her adar gave his children the jewels as symbols of the sea. It actually hurt me a bit to make her jewel a sapphire because they are my favorite stone and Marti creeps me out.

Thank you so much for the review. I do love hearing what strikes people. There is only the epilogue left in this story. I'm not going to promise when it will be up even though it is written (it's just the second half of the prologue)--I seem to jinx myself when I make promises.

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