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Discretion  by Bodkin 12 Review(s)
Kitt OtterReviewed Chapter: 6 on 5/15/2008
Good, Gimli told Aragorn; at least he won't embarass himself further. I trully can imagine why Arwen does not want to spoil it for her brothers. "eyes of liquid starlight" - that was good; simple and poetic.

I liked the interaction between Elrond and Celebrian; their happy thought from the long seperation from their sons could only me smile. (As well as the "conversation" they overheard).

-Kitt

LarnerReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/18/2005
The joke finally shared between the two of them! Marvelous! And glad to hear all are now joyous once again.

Author Reply: It took them some time to discovering that the other knew - but now they do they can enjoy the twins' moments of garbled Khuzdul. And they are all beginning to realise the delights of being together again. Thank you.

elliskaReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/18/2005
‘Underestimated,’ Elrond reminded her complacently. ‘Listen to your naneth.’ I love this line and I love that the revelations begin when the twins are returned to Valinor and begining to delight in living again. This was all very well portrayed.



Author Reply: Thank you. The twins have another 50-100 years of blessed ignorance yet, while their parents and grandparents - and Glorfindel - are able to relish their vocabulary. But the end is nigh! Though at least the twins will be healed and happy - and able to endure the revelation.

Jay of LasgalenReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/12/2005
It's heartbreaking to consider Elrond's sadness when he thought the twins would never come to the blessed realm: 'their loss long since mourned, the hollowness of their absence endured'.

Their arrival (and seeing Celebrían healed) began their healing and completed his. I like their revived delight in living - it's clear that that had been absent for a long time.

So, finally, he knows that she knows, and she knows that he knows (and that's not easy to type!!) I knew they would eventually find out and share their amusement.

Thanks for this delightful series, Bodkin. They've been a joy to read.

Author Reply: Poor Elrond must have wondered what he had done wrong to have all his children wrenched from him. It must have shadowed his reunion with Celebrian, however brave a face they put on it. And to have them arrive, after they had been almost given up, must have brought joy to both their parents.

And the twins are filled with delight - they are fizzing like champagne. (Of course, I think they might be in love by now, just to top off their euphoria.)

They can share their amusement for some 50 - 100 years, I think. Before Legolas lets the cat among the pigeons.

Thank you. They have been great fun to do.

TithenFeredirReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/12/2005
There are several things I really liked about this chapter. I hadn't thought of the twins arriving in Valinor in a worn and saddened state, but it does make sense given what they would have seen before they departed. For them to be set on the path to recovery by seeing their naneth again is a lovely, poignant little note. The easy familiarity between Elrond and Celebrian with its undercurrent of sensuality was very well done, as was the subtle reveal between them regarding the twins' linguistc problem.

"I am, on the other hand, shocked beyond belief that my lady should have such words in her vocabulary."

"Oh, tosh, I am not made of snowflakes, my love, to melt away at the suggestion of something warm."

I love that bit about being made of snowflakes. She is delicate, and yet not. Very nice. ~TF

Author Reply: The twins arrive exhausted and drained (in my BR) - but, just as their grief for their naneth nearly broke them, seeing her healed is enough to spark their own healing.

Celebrian is determined enough and light-hearted enough to step over Elrond's reserve - and he loves it. There are very few people Elrond allows to get really close and no-one is closer than Celebrian. And she treasures him as he deserves.

I'm glad you like the snowflake bit. Thank you.

Rose SaredReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/12/2005
Ah, nice, poor sad Elrond redeemed and a happy ending in Valinor for almost everyone. Of course he would know the language, at least enough to discuss the matter of rings and things with those he needed to. You have such a light touch with this angsty stuff, lovely.
Rose

Author Reply: If ever anybody deserved a happy ending, it must be Elrond. Endurance should be his middle name.

Elrond is, I think, one of these natural student types with an endless curiosity. If there's something out there to know, he would want to know it. (Unlike Elros - who was, in my mind anyway, more of an active physical type - like his nephews.)

You could wallow in sorrow with elves - but they have to have been able to put it aside and enjoy the moments of glory.

Thank you. This has been such fun - it's lightened my week enormously.

RedheredhReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/11/2005
You create such beautful moments between husbands and wifes. *sigh* Love and Laughs... perfect combination for a long life together.

Now personally, I think Legolas was put up to it. That is to finally reveal the truth at an opportune moment.

Also, like Celeborn, he had to know generally what was being said way back in their earlier days (if you think they were friends before the Council of Elrond or even if immediatly afterwards). Thranduil did trade with the men and dwarves around Iron Mountain after all. Gimli just clarified matters for Legolas.

But, when you think about it with all the perfectly happy people relishing such elflingish ammusment, why would their best friend break down and undermine their confidence for no particular reason? He has got to be working towards something... or for someone...

Gosh, please don't mind me and my suspicious mind. I think I've been hanging with Elrovail too long.


Author Reply: Celebrian teases Elrond a lot more than Galadriel does Celeborn. She is good at being flirtatious and bubbly - which is very good for Elrond.

You think the revelation was a set up? (If only I'd thought of that!)

I don't think Elladan and Elrohir were friendly before the War of the Ring really. Legolas was too busy in Mirkwood and the twins were off doing their thing. And he's a couple of millennia younger than them. They became friends in Gondor really - the Queen's brothers and the King's close friend from the Fellowship - and then, after the loss of Aragorn and Arwen, Legolas sailed and the twins remained for a few hundred more years. But, once they met up in the Blessed Realm they found they had more in common with each other than with pretty well anyone else - because they shared their love of A and A and their grief at their division from them. (The twins' familiarity with Thranduil dates from those post-Aragorn years, when Celeborn, Glorfindel and the twins joined him in Lasgalen for the last struggle.)

But you are right that Legolas must have heard them using these phrases before - so why did he tell them? Maybe he caught Elrin and Galenthil cussing out their friends and thought that the joke had gone far enough? I don't think he's caught on to the fact that Gimli stoked the fires with a few extra choice phrases. Or maybe he has.

Goodness this is getting complicated! Thank you. I will have to see what happens . . .


perellethReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/11/2005
Events would have to be very brave not to prove your naneth right, my love,’ LOL! indeed!

And now we're in the blessed realm, where LEgolas, inadvertently, has opened up the box and let the secret fly...And Elrond finally got his own sweet revenge. So, everybody has been hiding something for all those years... a three thousand years joke! No wonder Celebrían is reluctant to make a move...

And I was wondering.. maybe Gimli wrote the first "Khuzdul for Dummies, er Elves" and was a best seller?

Author Reply: I can imagine the muse of history cowering and deciding it had better jolly well go Galadriel's way! Or it's Vaire, isn't it?, who weaves the tapestry of life. Weaving very carefully around the Lady of the Golden Wood.

I don't think Legolas has an ulterior motive - perhaps he has caught Elrin and Galenthil sharing some of the twins' favourite phrases and thought that this should be stopped before all the young elves in the Blessed Realm are offering to dry dwarves' feet with their hair.

Celebrian - and Elrond - probably feel that this joke is better left secret. I would imagine never would be soon enough to have it revealed - but they've only got another fifty years or so.

Oh yes, Khuzdul for Elves. That would have been an interesting title - top of the best sellers throughout the Blessed Realm, earning Gimli a mint - and he could leave the copyright to Legolas, who would now be coining it in . . .

DotReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/11/2005
The more I read of this, the more I’m beginning to feel that Legolas was a bit of a spoilsport for telling them in the end!! I know, he didn’t know that so many others knew… But still, spoilsport!

I adored the beginning of this. What a wonderful job you did in showing Elrond’s feelings. I really felt his grief and guilt at leaving them behind and it’s just so great that he can begin to experience joy again.

Your Celebrían always makes me smile. I wholeheartedly support her project of making her husband relax and let the lighter side of him emerge. I laughed out loud when she tells Elrond what each of her parents thought of him. I can’t quite imagine Celeborn outright calling Elrond “dull” but I can certainly see him wondering if he’d be a good match for his vivacious daughter. Galadriel, of course, was completely right. ‘Underestimated,’ Elrond reminded her complacently. ‘Listen to your naneth.’ ROTFL!

I love the image of Elladan and Elrohir trying to stifle their laughter and sneak quietly into the house. We’ve probably all been there… But what makes it so great is the fact that it’s just pure happiness that’s filling their spirits.

The scene where Elrond and Celebrían discover that they both knew is brilliant! One of the best things Celebrían ever said is this: ‘I am not made of snowflakes, my love, to melt away at the suggestion of something warm.’ What a wonderful line! I just love your Elrond and Celebrían together.

‘After all this time?’ Celebrían smiled. ‘May that discovery never come.’ Hmm. I’m cringing at the thought of the twins discovering that more people than Legolas knew. Not they ever have to. But something tells me they might…



Author Reply: If only they'd thought ahead. Between them Galadriel, Celeborn, Glorfindel, Elrond and Celebrian ought to have been able to overawe one Thranduilion and get him to vow eternal secrecy!

Elrond is so responsible - he must have felt worse for leaving his children than he would if they had left him. But he does deserve to be able to let it go now - and Celebrian is just the elleth to help him. Flirtatious, mischievous, strong-minded - and loving. She was paraphrasing her adar's words, right? He wondered whether Elrond was too amenable to stand up to her and too conventional to suit her. But Galadriel could see beneath the surface.

Elladan and Elrohir are just - bubbling. Like champagne. And it is a joy for their family to see them. (Probably in love. At this point. A leggy blonde and a dark healer with a sharp wit.)

I enjoy Elrond and Celebrian. And for all her frosty moonlit beauty, she is tied to the earth - and warm and real. Just what Elrond needs.

Sigh. I'm rather sorry that the twins find out at all now. It would me more fun to keep them in ignorance. But still - they are their parents' children. Whatever that might suggest!!

Paradise of Elves 72 for the next bit. (Although I think I will attach it here later as well. Just to keep the whole thing together. And not necessarily because something else might come after it.)

daw the minstrelReviewed Chapter: 6 on 9/11/2005
The first two sentences of this were so good that I had to stop and read them again. They do such a wonderful job of conveying what Elrond had felt and felt now.

So what makes Celebrian think the twins will find out soon enough? It's Legolas who eventually breaks down and tells them as I recall.

Author Reply: Thank you.

I think the theory there is that never is soon enough. I'm sure they all rather hope, by this point, that the whole thing remains secret. After all, there are no dwarves around who might pick up on the scandalous use of the secret language.

If they'd only thought to collar the only elf close to them who had spent enough time with dwarves to be able to reveal the truth - and swear him to secrecy!

But it's too late now.

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